State Troopers are running around in Ford Exploders.
They should be running around in TROOPERS!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula
I wouldn't want to see those training videos.
Brian
On 12/18/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
State Troopers are running around in Ford Exploders.
They should be running around in TROOPERS!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula
On 12/16/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zoltan Finks wrote:
And that is scary. I want performance cars only in the hands of those
trained or capable of handling them.
A Crown Vic Police Interceptor is not really a performance car. It's
A Crown Vic may not be, haven't driven
On 12/18/06, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A Crown Vic may not be, haven't driven one, but I owned a 9C1 Caprice
that would keep up with a Vette in the straights. Obviously the Vette
Better pepper that it was a last model 90's Caprice and C4 90's
Standard stock Vette. Not a Grand
On 12/17/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zoltan Finks wrote:
what boxes were checked on the order form. The only way to be
absolutely sure whether a car was ordered as a police package model is
to look at the VIN.
A true P71 will always have black corners around the license frame
Oh yeah, my wife went to IU. Bloomington looks like a fun place to live for
relatively young folks like us. About the only place I'd personally want to
live in IN (no offense). Living there would make the trip to go see her
family (like we're doing Friday - DREAD) a much shorter trip.
I have
And that is scary. I want performance cars only in the hands of those
trained or capable of handling them.
Brian
David wrote:
Here they all use surplus cop cars.
Zoltan Finks wrote:
And that is scary. I want performance cars only in the hands of those
trained or capable of handling them.
So you want them kept out of the hands of cops?
Zoltan Finks wrote:
And that is scary. I want performance cars only in the hands of those
trained or capable of handling them.
A Crown Vic Police Interceptor is not really a performance car. It's
got basically the same engine as a V-8 Mustang and considerably more
weight. 0-60 times are
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Zoltan Finks wrote:
And that is scary. I want performance cars only in the hands of those
trained or capable of handling them.
A Crown Vic Police Interceptor
Chris Kueny wrote:
A visual cue to the police package is the dual exhaust. So there are some
small hardware differences.
Yeah, that's good for a small horsepower gain. It's also found on Crown
Victorias with the trailer towing package. It's one of the few
examples of a modern car with a
on 12/16/06 4:56 PM, David Brodbeck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve MacSween wrote:
Now I see your comment on US cars and raise you by the experience of our
local taxi fleets. For a long time the (verrry cheap) owners purchased
whichever US car was cheapest to get at the time (mainly
on 12/16/06 2:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for Quebec salt, well I hear our Canadian brothers and sisters use fine
wine and cheese in their salt mix.
Huh. They've contracted out a lot of winter roads stuff here, so actually
getting salt on your car some days is a
Oh yes, I know. My cronies and I, growing up, used to laugh at the
performance of the cop cars and a few of us were fortunate enough to be able
to honestly brag about outrunning them. (outrunning was the easy part,
outcornering a bit more difficult, and of course, outrunning the Motorola or
the
That's true. Another visual cue is the rear sway bar. Or maybe all
full-sized American cars come with rear sway bars now. It used to be a real
rarity.
The size and profile of the tires is another indicator. And aluminum wheels
are not often found on a cop car, nor are wheel-covers (as opposed to
Zoltan Finks wrote:
That's true. Another visual cue is the rear sway bar. Or maybe all
full-sized American cars come with rear sway bars now. It used to be a real
rarity.
All Crown Vics after a certain year have a Watt's link to locate the
rear axle.(Older ones have a Panhard rod.) Dunno
.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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this, a 99 or 900 with a bad clutch is no
big problem, its like $200-$300...
-Curt
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on 12/15/06 12:43 PM, Tony Wirtel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where you at? Here in the Philadelphia area Chevettes had Flintstone
brakes (i.e. rusted out floorpans) in 5-6 years.
For the age, don't many rusted K-cars though- maybe they had galvanized metal?
Listen, I dunno what you guys
on 12/15/06 12:33 PM, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I disagree somewhat. American made CARS are crap. Trucks are a
different story.
What are you basing this statement on? I agree that American cars
needed to improve and they did - dramatically. Maintenance costs have
dropped
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on 12/15/06 12:43 PM, Tony Wirtel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where you at? Here in the Philadelphia area Chevettes had
Steve MacSween wrote:
Now I see your comment on US cars and raise you by the experience of our
local taxi fleets. For a long time the (verrry cheap) owners purchased
whichever US car was cheapest to get at the time (mainly Luminas and Malibus
and Transport/Montana minivans).
Here they all
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I find the new ones at least as easy, if not more so than the old ones
in the Minnesota cold. In three winters it always started, even
on the three days my '72 220D wouldn't.
Bob R
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I
on the three days my '72 220D wouldn't.
Bob R
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I disagree somewhat. American made CARS
VWs are off the list just because I don't get the attraction:
everyone I know who has one, is always fixing some dumb sh*t or other.
If you have a Chevette or a K-Car for sale, you can do really well around
here. They were laughed at in the day, but now people want them back.
That says
Now you're speaking my language! I hate being tied to a mechanic just as I'm
tied to the plumber or the dentist. Bikes free me of that feeling.
So does cutting my own hair. Take that Cost Cutters! $13 plus tip every few
months - dont think so.
Brian
Who just took his two bike wheels into the
Makes me think of my current tranny situation in my Saab 900.
I would probably burst a blood vessel or two if my wife were to drive the
car. She is the typical type that plops down in the seat, slams the door,
jams in and twists the key in one swift, forceful motion, drops it in gear
before the
I had a chevette (shove-it) as my friends called it. had it 10 years, salty
winter and put about 120,000 kms on it. No mechanical problems at all, and
hardly any rust. sold it to a friend who put another 150,000 kms on it, and
didn't like the white colour, so painted it black, with a brush!!
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There are actually a number of cars still on the roads (that is, speaking of
the rust belt) that represent
is not
worth the driving...
Trampas
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There are actually a number of cars still
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Makes me think of my current tranny situation in my Saab 900.
I'm having a battle between making the brakes last as long as possible by
using the tranny more, and making the clutch last longer by using the brakes
more.
Fortunately for you, the clutch is almost as
Yeah, I've heard the clutch is quite easy, being right up front there. Does
the radiator have to come out, or any radiator hoses or anything? I don't
spend much time under the hood.
Brian
84 Saab 900
On 12/15/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Makes me think of
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Yeah, I've heard the clutch is quite easy, being right up front there. Does
the radiator have to come out, or any radiator hoses or anything? I don't
spend much time under the hood.
It's been over 15 years, so the memory is a bit fuzzy, but I
think you can do it by
I've often wondered on the subject of procuring and owning the type of
automobiles some of us favor (early to mid 80s European).
What will it be like to try to find one 10 or 15 years from now?
If we cannot find them in decent shape for a decent price, what will be our
alternatives?
To explain
Zoltan Finks wrote:
I've often wondered on the subject of procuring and owning the type of
automobiles some of us favor (early to mid 80s European).
What will it be like to try to find one 10 or 15 years from now?
I think for the answer to that, you just have to look at the market in
old
On 12/14/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that the particular type of auto that many of us value is prime
for
the buying now, and I'm just wondering what the landscape will look like
ten
years from now.
There'll be a lot fewer '80s cars on the road and people will be
Buy the riceburner hot cars and stash them away in a climate controlled
garage. This includes ford Probe, which is really a mazda.
At 01:34 PM 12/14/2006, you wrote:
What I'm curious about is what cars from the current era people will be
nostalgic about 20 years from now.
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