Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-31 Thread Dan Penoff
Forgot about that Not sure how thermostat became Tatar? Damned autocorrect. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Why would using a forced open Tatar be any different that just running without one? I presume you

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure how thermostat became Tatar? Damned autocorrect. Can't remember if I linked to this before: http://damnyouautocorrect.com Warning: not for the easily offended. Alex ___

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Can't remember if I linked to this before: http://damnyouautocorrect.com Warning: not for the easily offended. Perhaps the powerless Andrew would like these: http://damnyouautocorrect.com/11767/6-hurricane-irene-autocorrect-fails/

[MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Allan Streib
I am planning to flush and refill coolant in my W116. I have a new thermostat and would like to force the old one open to ensure that as much of the old coolant is removed as possible. What is the best way to force it into the open position (and hold it there)? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Someone on the list, or possibly STD, used a strip of brass from a casing to hold their t-stat open. Walt On Aug 30, 2011 5:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I am planning to flush and refill coolant in my W116. I have a new thermostat and would like to force the old one open to

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I am planning to flush and refill coolant in my W116.  I have a new thermostat and would like to force the old one open to ensure that as much of the old coolant is removed as possible.  What is the best way to force it

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
Not really necessary, as the coolant will disappear when you drain the block. Whilst the block and radiator are draining, change the thermostat. The M103 motor is a pain to change the coolant in, as it traps air up the top and there is a special plug at the top of the head to let the air out.

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Not really necessary, as the coolant will disappear when you drain the block. Huh? Not the coolant in the radiator if the thermostat is closed, surely. Alex ___

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Hans Neureiter
Unless I miss something, I would open any orfice in the biest, including T-stat housing, stick the garden hose in any end and flush. BTW that's how I found the culprit not having heat. PO put a spark plug in the line from the bypass to the heater core. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Allan

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Curt Raymond
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open Message-ID: CABHyH=ZQdsr=j7dmxf+qwuh1cwagci6x7tgfo1pafs9n0jv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I am planning to flush

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well I like to give people some credit and surmise that the radiator will be drained as well, during the process. Behr radiators have a special set up for this, however if the radiator is to be flushed I recommend hose removal. Hendrik who drains the radiators when changing coolant Alex

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Hans Neureiter
As I said. Open all orfices i.e take hoses off and flush. Hans who did it in desperation. Why not? On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: Well I like to give people some credit and surmise that the radiator will be drained as well, during the process.

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Allan Streib
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: Unless you want to keep the old one as a spare, I thought the canonical way was just to drill a big hole through it. I thought this would be similar to running without a thermostat? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Dan Penoff
Why would using a forced open Tatar be any different that just running without one? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: As I said. Open all orfices i.e take hoses off and flush. Hans who did it in desperation. Why not? On

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Craig
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:39:02 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: Unless you want to keep the old one as a spare, I thought the canonical way was just to drill a big hole through it. I thought this would be similar to running

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread OK Don
Correct. Bypassing the3 radiator when cool warms the engine faster - getting it up to operating temp as soon as possble, also providing cabin heat faster than most other cars, IMHO. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:39:02 -0400 Allan

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Russ Williams
Doc Booth said to use a .38 Special shell casing to hold it open.. Or you can get Rusty to order you the Official one from Mom Benz. Russ W. On 8/30/2011 8:01 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:39:02 -0400 Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Alex Chamberlainapchamberl...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Fmiser
Dan Penoff wrote: Why would using a forced open Tatar be any different that just running without one? I presume you mean t-stat, or thermostat. *smiles* On an OM61x engine, the thermostat is actually a pair of valves. When it operates, the bypass vvalve closes and the radiator valve opens.

Re: [MBZ] How to force thermostat open

2011-08-30 Thread Jim Cathey
like to force the old one [thermostat] open to ensure that as much of the old coolant is removed as possible. What is the best way to force it into the open position (and hold it there)? See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SDLcool.html Why would using a forced open Tatar be any