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-Curt
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:08:56 -0500
From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Peroxide
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, at worst you end up
dead. Doesn't sound like a good trade to me.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:42:17 -0400
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quack quack quack quack
Paging Dr. Duck, Dr. Daffy Duck...
Eat well, exercise, and take care of yourself. Walk, ride
like a good trade to me.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:42:17 -0400
From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
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So that's where Smurfs come from!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
On 4/13/2012 11:40 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
That stuff will turn you blue. I saw a pic some time ago of a guy who
took that stuff, was blue as can be. Weird. I wonder if he became a
new protected class.
--R
On 4/13/12
Thank you Hendrik. Excellent article and now I also have lernt something.
The quest is now on to find a source for 35% food grade.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:
I was thinking the Chairman has lost the plot and was wanting to drink
rocket fuel but
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinfectant#Home_disinfectants
http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/cp/institutions/childcarecenters/CPDGuideline350_revE_SanitizersDisinfectants0508.pdf
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
I'd say Lysol or Clorox would be more than adequate for the home
kitchen.
don't think I've ever had food poisoning except maybe that one time I drank
really old tomato juice but I'd been drinking rather a lot also...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:35:16 -0700
From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen
poisoning except maybe that one time I drank
really old tomato juice but I'd been drinking rather a lot also...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:35:16 -0700
From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Peroxide
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All the strong oxidizers produce super oxide radicals in the presence
of oxygen. These supercharged oxygen atoms react with organic
molecules and add an oxygen atom in random places. This can cause
the molecule to split into other things, or cause distortions in
proteins, etc.
Grant wrote:
Thank you Hendrik. Excellent article and now I also have lernt something.
The quest is now on to find a source for 35% food grade.
Keep us in the loop on what you find, please.
My son tried years ago. After he placed the order, they contacted him
and wanted to see his commercial
Curt wrote:
I think its actually a decreasingly nasty world out there but many people
allow themselves to lose their natural resistance by being too clean.
How does your immune system know its job if you never let it work?
That is the way I see things also. Perhaps it is your NE life style
IIRC, there was somone in Mexico who was selling H2O2 stills to concentrate
it. His use was to power little nozzles on the ends of rotor blades.
On Thursday, April 12, 2012, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Hendrik. Excellent article and now I also have lernt
something.
The quest is
Haven't we been told through the years that many microbes and germs
die when exposed to air? It would seem plausible that the excess
oxygen in hydrogen peroxide (h2o2 versus h2o for water) should provide
good air clean against germs and microbes.
Another alternative is to use lavender oil
Dieselhead wrote:
Well, if the goal is to sterilize your innards, I believe that there is
an agent readily available that will do that. While H2O2 has some
germicidal properties, this agent is known to be an effective germicide.
Always the Ethanol supporter, eh?
Mitch.
quack quack quack quack
Paging Dr. Duck, Dr. Daffy Duck...
Eat well, exercise, and take care of yourself. Walk, ride a bike,
whatever. Drink wine and beer in moderation. Eat your veggies. And if
you do end up sick, see a real doc.
--R (spouse of a real doc, father of an incipient real
Peter,
Thank you for this info.
I've learned a lot more today again.
Fredd
All the strong oxidizers produce super oxide radicals in the presence
of oxygen. These supercharged oxygen atoms react with organic
molecules and add an oxygen atom in random places. This can cause
the
My father had some 30% H2O2 in his dental office. I don't remember what he
used it for, but I did experiment with it and potasium permangate with the
idea of powering a rocket with it. I did find out that 30% would leave
white areas on my fingers where I touched it - rather like reagent grade
10/10! Good work!
Dieselhead wrote:
Well, if the goal is to sterilize your innards, I believe that
there is an agent readily available that will do that. While H2O2
has some germicidal properties, this agent is known to be an
effective germicide.
Always the Ethanol supporter, eh?
--R wrote:
And if you do end up
sick, see a real doc.
--R (spouse of a real doc, father of an incipient real doc, and friend to
many real docs)
I guess I should not be repairing my 240D.
There are professionals out there to do that type of work.
Docs are fine for most sick when/if it
Well, humans are living longer now than we ever have, and many of the
diseases that killed people by the time they were 30yo, or 5yo, have
basically been dealt with. So, even if you subscribe to the nihilistic
view of life, you still will probably live longer than
99.999% of all
I debated whether or not to submit this question to the list, but decided to do
so after reviewing the most recent topics.
Here is my question, in hopes someone knowledgeable about chemistry and
microbes can clear up this issue.
Is hydrogen peroxide a suitable and effective disinfectant for the
Jerry wrote:
Does hydrogen peroxide effectively kill the germs left on my M-B steering
wheel?
You might want to perform some control testing, i.e. see if you can
get sick from the germs on your steering wheel. If yes, then clean
your steering wheel using hydrogen peroxide, let the steering
Peroxide works just like chlorine to kill germs (actually
hypochlorous acid, but that's splitting hairs). Peroxide usually
doesn't stay active long enough to do anything when wiped on, unlike
chlorine.
If you are really serious about sanitizing your kitchen, you should
use one of the
Yep you can use it.
Read this http://www.livinghiho.com/article/hydrogen-peroxide-vs-bleach
Russ W
On 4/11/2012 4:51 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote:
I debated whether or not to submit this question to the list, but decided to do
so after reviewing the most recent topics.
Here is my question, in
I'd say Lysol or Clorox would be more than adequate for the home
kitchen. Note they will also take care of viruses, which
antibacterial soap (probably containing triclosan) may not.
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes:
Peroxide works just like chlorine to kill germs (actually
Citrus acid, borax, pine oil, Tea Tree oil, and others are good for this
also.
Try reading http://eartheasy.com/live_nontoxic_solutions.htm
or
http://greeninspiredliving.com/homemade-natural-disinfectant-vs-store-brand
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'87 300SDL (326,xxx mi)
On 4/11/2012
Is hydrogen peroxide a suitable and effective disinfectant for the
kitchen?
Don't know why it wouldn't be. I do know H2O2 goes bad
with storage, turning into water. It should foam when
poured on anything interesting. I think you'd have to
use a 'lot', though, since it foams out so quickly.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:47:44 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
wrote:
For years, we have been wanting to find food grade 30% hydrogen
peroxide to ingest in small quantity to ward off disease and illness.
It is essentially unobtanium - ya gotta be a research facility with
proper chain
Craig wrote:
I got some from the Chemistry Stockroom at UT Austin to clean out a
laser's cooling system while I was a grad student -- real potent stuff.
Why not just ingest a somewhat larger quantity of the more dilute stuff
from your drug store?
The 30% food grade stuff has efficiency
Hydrogen Peroxide was developed during WW1 as a wound dressing to stop gang
green I'm told, so seems it would be an effective anti bacterial agent.
Common household bleach gets most kitchen germs. I mix a nice stiff
solution in a spray bottle and spray and wipe after cutting chicken or
meats.
H2O2 is used to sanitize the inside of things like milk cartons
before filling. I don't know the percentage used for this. there is
a dwell time of a few seconds.
Hydrogen Peroxide was developed during WW1 as a wound dressing to stop gang
green I'm told, so seems it would be an effective
30% hydrogen peroxide is fairly dangerous stuff -- tends to do things
like explode. Will also cause things that normally won't burn to do
so explosively, since it releases pure oxygen. it's also a very
strong oxidizer, so will react (usually with great evolution of heat)
with reducing
I was thinking the Chairman has lost the plot and was wanting to drink
rocket fuel but a bit of research reveals that it is a scientific thing
but:
http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml
Grades of Hydrogen Peroxide
Hydrogen peroxide is available in various
Don't see how oxygen radicals
will do anything for you but cause premature aging, either.
Peter
Can you explain a bit more about the oxygen ?
I am on oxygen 24/7 at a rate of 4 liter per minute.
Fredd
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