Re: [MBZ] I think somebody literally crapped in the car

Testimony to the speed and sportiness of this car, faint of heart and bowel need not ride in this car --FT On 9/24/18 12:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Check out what I found on Facebook Marketplace. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/533044293811860/ Sent from my

[MBZ] I think somebody literally crapped in the car

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Re: [MBZ] I think Jaime needs this

Oh man thats rusty... at least the price isn't too unreasonable. On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 62 Mercedes Benz 220se coupe > > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/62-mercedes-benz- > 220se-coupe/6466431880.html > > > Sent from

Re: [MBZ] I think Jaime needs this

If it's a complete car, might be worth it for parts. On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 62 Mercedes Benz 220se coupe > > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/62-mercedes-benz- > 220se-coupe/6466431880.html > > > Sent from my iPhone >

[MBZ] I think Jaime needs this

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Re: [MBZ] I think it failed

Happens all the time! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] I think it failed

Thermostat might be dead/ open. I took Allen for a drive on the freeway and temp gauge was sitting between cold and almost not cold anymore (40-80) at 70mph after 20 minutes. Never got warmer. Cabin temp was not that great, and when I got home, the top hose was mushy and warm, the lower

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

Nor are we... On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > But I'm not entirely sure why > > https://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-top-speed-of-a-mercedes- > unimogs-super-crawler-gear-1797869370 > > --R > > > ___ >

[MBZ] I think I need this

But I'm not entirely sure why https://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-top-speed-of-a-mercedes-unimogs-super-crawler-gear-1797869370 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] I think . . .

..@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:14 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think . . . > > Donald wrote: > > I'm scared as hell about this election with either Donald OR Hillary > winning... > > Certainl

Re: [MBZ] I think . . .

- From: Mountain Man [mailto:maontin@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think . . . Donald wrote: > I'm scared as hell about this election with either Donald OR Hillary >

Re: [MBZ] I think . . .

Donald wrote: > I'm scared as hell about this election with either Donald OR Hillary > winning... Certainly it is that type of fear that is tempered in the structure of the governance specified in the Constitution? This governance does not operate with one man in the presidency. There are two

Re: [MBZ] I think . . .

Giles [mailto:dwight.gi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 4:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think . . . I agree. Thank you for raising this Randy. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Oct 19, 2016 4:27 PM, "Ra

Re: [MBZ] I think . . .

Maybe you ought to do that. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Oct 19, 2016 4:53 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" wrote: > Damn... that would make me retreat to my "safe zone area" and make an > appointment with my "trigger point counselor". > > Although... I

Re: [MBZ] I think . . .

I agree. Thank you for raising this Randy. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Oct 19, 2016 4:27 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" wrote: > that we need to ban discussion of the election and politics in general > > although I do realize that there would

Re: [MBZ] I think . . .

Damn... that would make me retreat to my "safe zone area" and make an appointment with my "trigger point counselor". Although... I must say, I've always enjoyed the "group therapy sessions" held here 3 times each year... Here's a video of one of the latest ones..

Re: [MBZ] I think . . .

You got that right. Hey Randy - my former partner (Canadian) was convinced - despite my protestations - the moon landing was an elaborately staged hoax (conspiracy). Is this a generally accepted conspiracy theory in Canada? Or was she just unbelievably stubborn? On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:27

[MBZ] I think . . .

that we need to ban discussion of the election and politics in general although I do realize that there would then be almost no traffic on the list. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

It comes down to two things: 1.) Setting limits. It's always easy to think, Just another couple hundred dollars and I can have this! That approach often ends up poorly. While I certainly understand that reaching beyond expectations for a one-time deal or something that far exceeds what I was

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Reminds me of the old adage espoused by cool college dudes when dating coeds: Treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Beats me. He called and left me a voice mail yesterday afternoon. I started listening to it and only heard fair and

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Beats me. He called and left me a voice mail yesterday afternoon. I started listening to it and only heard fair and $5800. At that point I shut off the phone, as there was nothing else for me to hear as far as I'm concerned. I'm sort of meh about this car, mainly due to the model year (1996)

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

That was my point in #1. There are rare occasions where it makes sense to have some leeway. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, if you're searching for a very rare/hard to find model - or even a pretty color (also rare)

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

OTOH, if you're searching for a very rare/hard to find model - or even a pretty color (also rare) that makes your pulse race - you may need to bend the rules a bit. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It comes down to two things: 1.) Setting limits. It's always

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Dan Penoff wrote: the recent repair bill from eurotech-automotive.com in Spring Hill Fla. (352) 597-2660 will be included for your records..Tom I'm assuming that's a Yes? It's not a definitive statement, but it sounds like a continued argument for applying the bill to the

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

This guy is like someone out of Goodfellows. Dan On Apr 2, 2015, at 8:35 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The heat fried their brains?:) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: People in Florida are weirdos Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

I'll say. Dan On Apr 2, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: People in Florida are weirdos Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2015, at 6:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Strange, very strange... I sent an email to the owner of the 1996 S320 I looked

[MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Strange, very strange... I sent an email to the owner of the 1996 S320 I looked at last weekend: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4947867972.html I thanked him for his time, told him what a nice car he had, then proceeded to lay out why spending $2500+ on a car for maintenance doesn't

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

People in Florida are weirdos Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2015, at 6:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Strange, very strange... I sent an email to the owner of the 1996 S320 I looked at last weekend: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4947867972.html I thanked him for his

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

The heat fried their brains?:) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: People in Florida are weirdos Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2015, at 6:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Strange, very strange... I sent an email to

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Heh. They weren't in it when I saw the car. I was a little disappointed. He had a set of the clear all weather ones in it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 2, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Make sure he leaves the floor mats in --R

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Make sure he leaves the floor mats in --R On 4/2/15 7:08 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Strange, very strange... I sent an email to the owner of the 1996 S320 I looked at last weekend: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4947867972.html I thanked him for his time, told him what a nice car he had,

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

$500 deduction right there. You wanna roll like a goomba you gotta have the mats --R On 4/2/15 11:10 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Heh. They weren't in it when I saw the car. I was a little disappointed. He had a set of the clear all weather ones in it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 2, 2015,

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

‎Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:   People in Florida are weirdos  Germany or Florida?  Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

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Are we playing that game now? Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: ‎Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: People in Florida are weirdos Germany or Florida? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Great! 'Hope it goes well. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 7:08 AM Subject: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car Strange, very strange... I sent an email to the owner of the 1996 S320 I

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Did you ever ask what it would take to make the car 100 percent mechanically and cosmetically perfect? On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: $500 deduction right there. You wanna roll like a goomba you gotta have the mats --R On

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Just don't end up with TWO cars if each party accepts your offer. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not necessary. He was in the process of doing it Got an email from him. He wants to compromise at $5800. I told him thanks, but no, I don't negotiate, I

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

Not necessary. He was in the process of doing it Got an email from him. He wants to compromise at $5800. I told him thanks, but no, I don't negotiate, I offer what I think is fair and what the car is worth to me. Not totally true, as I would negotiate if I thought the car was worth it,

Re: [MBZ] I *Think* I Bought a Car

I turned him down, so I'm off the hook with the Goodfellows guy. Unless, of course, he makes me an offer I can't refuse. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Just don't end up with TWO cars if each party accepts your offer.

Re: [MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this

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Re: [MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this

Mitch wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/4109030244.html I take it they don't smog test 1997 vehicles in MO? Emission testing is only in and around St. Louis and Kansas City and last I checked for cars newer than 1969. The rest of the state has only safety

Re: [MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this

Emission testing is only in and around St. Louis and Kansas City and last I checked for cars newer than 1969. The rest of the state has only safety inspections every two years. As of a few years ago, only the St Louis area and only 1996 and newer vehicles (1997 and up for diesels). It is

Re: [MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this

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Re: [MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this

ATTABOY! Wilt - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this Interesting idea, poor implementation. Besides in many places it'll never

[MBZ] I think curt or somebody needs this

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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/4109030244.html I take it they don't smog test 1997 vehicles in MO? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

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Uh no Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/4109030244.html I take it they don't smog test 1997 vehicles in MO? Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

On their facebook posting the other day --R On 6/30/13 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Did you make this up or did they really write that somewhere?! Jaime On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: If it can't pick up a GPS

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good,

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. And

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

Tim Crone wrote: That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Bingo! GPS and sun position are both line of sight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

You caught the biggest issue here, Tim... if you have visible sun, you almost certainly have visibility to at least a few GPS satellites. But generally, in car navigation uses three things for positioning: GPS, Wheel speed, and a gyroscope. Between these there, positioning is very accurate even

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

I always know where I am, sometimes just not in relation to some other place --R (wherever you go, there you are!) On 7/1/13 11:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: You caught the biggest issue here, Tim... if you have visible sun, you almost certainly have visibility to at least a few GPS

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

--R (wherever you go, there you are!) No, no, no, don't tug on that! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: --R (wherever you go, there you are!) No, no, no, don't tug on that! You never know what it might be attached to... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

Yep; gyro makes course a little more accurate. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:13 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Course, in an earth-bound vehicle, one can usually look out the window at a known object/address and get a Fix - sometimes not possible if ya don't recognize what you're seeing. ;) Hence the fun of http://geoguessr.com/ ...

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:06:47 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: You caught the biggest issue here, Tim... if you have visible sun, you almost certainly have visibility to at least a few GPS satellites. But generally, in car navigation uses three things for positioning: GPS,

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

PND = Personal Navigation Device? OK Don, whose PND in the Cessna brought us from 120 miles out to ringt over the center of the home runway - we were impressed, given that it is one of the least expensive available. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: This is

[MBZ] I think I need this

If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need this If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

'Can't get site to open. 'Wonder if I can find the app? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this Well, I MEANT dead reckoning (DR). It really comes from deduction reckoning and should be ded reckoning, but everybody calls it dead, and, of course, it nearly

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

Yes. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

Um... no. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea.

Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

Did you make this up or did they really write that somewhere?! Jaime On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

see. -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:03:48 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51be5264.9020...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt, is there any

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51be6c1f.5070...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Does the water pump still have fins on the impeller? Mitch. ___ http

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The thing everybody seems to not want to address is the coolant boiling out of the radiator neck... I put both thermostats in a pan of water, they both begin opening around 165F (the old one maybe slightly sooner) and are fully open at 180F. If they're busted its in some manner that I can't

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 23:13:05 -0500 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Find the bumpiest road you can and drive there with full heat running. Stop periodically and refill the expansion tank every so often. The water pump and aux pumps will pump the system full. You are thinking

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

Not always. My 123 300d has been running just fine for near a year with a crack in the seam of the coolant reservoir so it really holds no pressure at all but does not overheat. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:20 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The thing everybody seems to not want to

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

Okay guys this madness has to end, none of you are apparently actually reading anything I write, you've all gotten hung up on the radiator cap. Lets review the facts: #1. '78 240D, no expansion tank, no aux pump. #2. As soon as the car is started coolant starts bubbling out of the hood due to

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

Jun 2013 10:24:24 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: CALHJ_1BNYV37_2DErg=wcuqgc2pu5qowx0pc_guznblq4jc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not always. My

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

, 2013 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end The thing everybody seems to not want to address is the coolant boiling out of the radiator neck... I put both thermostats in a pan of water, they both begin opening around 165F (the old one maybe slightly sooner) and are fully open

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

No, this is where you pitch a major fit, in particular in earshot of those browsing the showroom. --R On 6/17/13 10:58 AM, WILTON wrote: Some sorry etc., had switched an OLD rusty one with my nearly new one!!! Of course, I had to buy a new one - crapped-upon again.

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

Excuse me but I have been arguing that the cap is not the issue and that you have an issue with cylinder pressure escaping through a crack into the cooling system. Everyone should read ALL of the posts before making a guess. Mike On Jun 17, 2013 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:03:51 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. That's my thought, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:19:53 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:03:51 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. That's my thought,

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

Rich Thomas wrote: No, this is where you pitch a major fit, in particular in earshot of those browsing the showroom. What? I paid you bastards $20k for a four cylinder economy car, and you want me to buy a new radiator cap to replace the one that was stolen in your shop? Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

Craig wrote: #2. As soon as the car is started coolant starts bubbling out of the hood due to bubbles of gas pushing in there. When the car is shut off there is always one more big bubble of gas which will push around a cup of coolant off, seems to say that it doesn't require any time to

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

In some circles, it's called an embolism. :) On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Air in a liquid cooling circuit would be a circulatory problem, right? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

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Curt, Woud it be worth a leakdown test before you declare it DOA? Dwight On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: No, this is where you pitch a major fit, in particular in earshot of those browsing the showroom. What? I paid you bastards

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

:03:51 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51bf2557.8090...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running

Re: [MBZ] I think its the end

Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51bf2557.8090...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would

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Is this the 616 with 40mm rad hose that you replaced last week instead of paying the stealer for OE hose? Buy the china hose to see if it works, then buy the OE hose to make it work properly? Cauldron sounds at startup and no cabin heat - that can't be. I doubt head compromise or water passage

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Mountain Man wrote: Is this the 616 with 40mm rad hose that you replaced last week instead of paying the stealer for OE hose? Buy the china hose to see if it works, then buy the OE hose to make it work properly? Cauldron sounds at startup and no cabin heat - that can't be. I doubt head

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Not all of us. I suggested a crack somewhere, on Friday afternoon. Should be able to pressurize the system and look for a leak. If combustion pressures are causing fluid to blow out of the system, then one would think it must be in the upper reaches of the cylinder wall or the head? More

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@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 51bf2557.8090...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: #6. There is no cabin heat when running. Now that would seem to point to a circulatory problem. Mitch

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Randy wrote: Anything is possible. Bypass the heater core by connecting the heater hoses together? Put some clear plastic hose on temporarily so you can see if there is flow? I like that suggestion. I imagine it to be some circulation problem in the engine system, not in the ancillary systems

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Since your headgasket was not obviously blown when we took it out, I wonder if your problem doesn't lie elsewhere? But where? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote

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On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, Put a pressure tester from FLAPS loan a tool on it. Do not pump it up. Turn over engine. If guage goes up you have cylinder pressure in cooling system. That is where the air comes from. That is a great idea.

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Get condom and stretch over the rad filler. If it inflates, when you crank it, there is air. Might want to close off the overflow too. Randy On 17/06/2013 4:31 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, Put a pressure tester from

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I had to put the head on the Hercules (genset engine) three times before it stopped leaking. Apparently it's not as easy as it looks. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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I suggested that several days ago. On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Curt, Put a pressure tester from FLAPS loan a tool on it. Do not pump it up. Turn over engine. If guage goes up you have cylinder pressure in cooling system. That is where the

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On Jun 15, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Curt's problem is that it's getting too hot. The non-tight cap in immaterial I call bs. I had a coolant leak on the fuel heater for my 190dt. I thought gee, I'll loosen the coolant cap. That will relieve the pressure in the system

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think its the end Message-ID: 20130615233101.2d66f...@seth.condray.lan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Luther wrote: Good call. The radiator cap needs to be tight as being loose will lower the boiling point of the water. Loose cap

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