Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-20 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
But also a pat on the back for DIY and saved $$! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of glenn brown Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:36 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Lee Brown Subject: [MBZ] LF RR electric

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-20 Thread Allan Streib
I have observed that fuses can look perfectly fine from the front and when you actually pull them from the clip you find that the ends are either corroded or melted away almost to nothing. Allan On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:35 -0400, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I deserve 5 demerits!

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
What I find bizarre is the intermittent nature of Glenn's problem. In 20+ yeears of W123 ownership I have never had this happen to me (nearly everything else has, however). On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: I have observed that fuses can look perfectly

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-20 Thread Rich Thomas
CHANGE YOUR FUSES! --R On 10/20/2010 11:03 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What I find bizarre is the intermittent nature of Glenn's problem. In 20+ yeears of W123 ownership I have never had this happen to me (nearly everything else has, however). On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Allan

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-20 Thread WILTON
Or they fall apart when ya pull 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD I have observed that fuses can

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-19 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD I just changed the fuse in the #12 position (electric windows) and jiggled the wire bundle/harness in the neoprene bellows which goes through the LF door and neither produced success when the electric window rocker was depressed

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-19 Thread R A Bennell
On 18/10/2010 5:32 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I would look for clues in the door, but it is possible that a wire going through the door into the body pillar might be work hardened to the breaking point. The relay is possible. Bear in mind that BOTH windows are on the same fuse. Have you put in

[MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-19 Thread glenn brown
I deserve 5 demerits! Since a couple listers seemed determined that the LF/RR window inoperation may be due to a fuse problem. I took another look and this time actually read the fuse diagram/layout correctly as fuse A is for the RF/LR and fuse B is for the LF/RR windows. Well, fuse A was

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-19 Thread OK Don
You are lucky that YOUR pistons didn't MELT. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:35 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I deserve 5 demerits! Since a couple listers seemed determined that the LF/RR window inoperation may be due to a fuse problem. I took another look and this time actually

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-19 Thread buymbparts
: Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD You are lucky that YOUR pistons didn't MELT. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:35 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I deserve 5 demerits! Since a couple listers seemed determined that the LF/RR window inoperation may be due to a fuse problem. I

[MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-18 Thread glenn brown
While taking the door upholstery apart on my newly acquired '85 300TD in order to use rust converter and undercoating/rustproofing on the interior of the doors, I started with the LF door the other day and the electric windows for this door and the RR door stopped working after reassembly. I

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Grounds? --R On 10/18/2010 6:15 PM, glenn brown wrote: While taking the door upholstery apart on my newly acquired '85 300TD in order to use rust converter and undercoating/rustproofing on the interior of the doors, I started with the LF door the other day and the electric windows for this

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-18 Thread harry watkins
Looking forwad to answers to this problem myself, the same thing is going on with my 86 SDL. Harry 86 300 SDL - Original Message - From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-18 Thread Dieselhead
I would look for clues in the door, but it is possible that a wire going through the door into the body pillar might be work hardened to the breaking point. The relay is possible. Bear in mind that BOTH windows are on the same fuse. Have you put in a new fuse? While taking the door

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-18 Thread Allan Streib
A little off the topic of your question... but which rust converter are you using? Allan On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:15 -0400, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: While taking the door upholstery apart on my newly acquired '85 300TD in order to use rust converter and undercoating/rustproofing

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-18 Thread Fmiser
glenn brown wrote: ... I started with the LF door the other day and the electric windows for this door and the RR door stopped working after reassembly. I figured it may be the ice cube size window relay up behind the instrument cluster, as I had this problem with my '84 300D some years

Re: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-18 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Broken/frayed wires in the accordion joint at the door hinge? -Max From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of glenn brown Sent: Mon 10/18/2010 6:15 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD While taking the door

[MBZ] LF RR electric windows in '85 TD

2010-10-18 Thread glenn brown
I just changed the fuse in the #12 position (electric windows) and jiggled the wire bundle/harness in the neoprene bellows which goes through the LF door and neither produced success when the electric window rocker was depressed. A detail I hadn't mentioned - the RF LR electric windows