Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-16 Thread Hendrik Fay
It depends on the definition of what a car is supposed to do. Is it supposed to move people from A to B in comfort or just move them from point to point. The dissenting judge touched on this by saying that a new or near new luxury car must have comfort whereas a Kaleb special just needs

Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-16 Thread Hendrik Fay
Over here if you are caught without a spare or an unusable spare, the police can defect your car. Not sure but I think in Germany the law is that you must carry spare bulbs so that you can fix burnt out ones on the spot. Hendrik Mitch Haley wrote: There was a case in Michigan where a buyer

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Hendrik Fay
I think the obvious was overlooked, Johnson admits adding super seal to the air con system and being a professional in the auto business would know that the reason that super seal has to be put in is that there is a fault/leak in the A/C system. Johnson told the Hodges that the car was in

[MBZ] Lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Wilton Strickland
Hendrik, I agree with you. I noticed the Super Seal, etc., right away, too. Yep, Johnson knew the car had an A/C problem. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Wilton Strickland wrote: Hendrik, I agree with you. I noticed the Super Seal, etc., right away, too. Yep, Johnson knew the car had an A/C problem. And that was something the trial judge took into consideration. The appellate ruling was that the case should have been thrown out summarily. I

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
hahahaha, yea Luther wrote: So you are ok with a buyer being a dumbass and not checking EVERYTHING out on a used car regardless of the price paid? No more caveat emptor? If this is the case, Kaleb, I need you to pay for my transmission in the SDL. Luther On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:02:14

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, they are a pack of idiots for paying that much for that car anyway, then expecting the seller to pay for failures on a 10 year old car is just stupid Donald Snook wrote: I was reading the Journal of the Kansas Bar Association today and it has reports of recent decisions by the Kansas

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the moron buyer should not have paid that much, if they are stupid enough to pay that much, they should have at least been smart enough to have somebody check it out Donald Snook wrote: Luther wrote: So you are ok with a buyer being a dumbass and not checking EVERYTHING out on a used car

Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea but still, its a 10 year old used car, the people should have had it checked out. If they were not prepared for the issues that could arrise with an old car, they should have bought a new car with a factory warranty. Wilton Strickland wrote: Hendrik, I agree with you. I noticed the Super

Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread R A Bennell
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:26 AM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Lawsuit over a Mercedes Hendrik, I agree with you. I noticed the Super Seal, etc., right away, too. Yep, Johnson knew the car had an A/C

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Hendrik Fay
So perhaps you would be kind enough to tell us how a mechanic would pick up that the A/C system has been filled with a sealant to make it temporarily work? Particularly if the weather is near freezing. End of the day the moral of the story is that the world of car salespeople is full of crooks

Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Hendrik Fay
They way I read it is that the owner complained that AC was not working well and the dealer added freon and later tried to convince them that adding a bit of freon every know and again was normal. Then again I kept nodding off every know and then as i read through the legal mumbo jumbo.

Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-15 Thread Jim Cathey
tried to convince them that adding a bit of freon every now and again was normal. It is. I believe that having to add a can's worth every few years is within the design parameters. (Or was.) But I bet this one leaked a whole lot more than that! -- Jim

[MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
I was reading the Journal of the Kansas Bar Association today and it has reports of recent decisions by the Kansas Court of Appeals. There was a case about a guy who bought a 1995 Mercedes (it just says it was a 320) for $17,000 in January 2005. It had over 135,000 miles. The new owners

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Luther
So you are ok with a buyer being a dumbass and not checking EVERYTHING out on a used car regardless of the price paid? No more caveat emptor? If this is the case, Kaleb, I need you to pay for my transmission in the SDL. Luther On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:02:14 -0500, Donald Snook [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread John Robbins
Donald Snook wrote: I was reading the Journal of the Kansas Bar Association today and it has reports of recent decisions by the Kansas Court of Appeals. There was a case about a guy who bought a 1995 Mercedes (it just says it was a 320) for $17,000 in January 2005. It had over 135,000 miles.

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Peter T . Arnold
I'm not sure how a non technical buyer would check an A/C in January. Not sure how I would either ;-) -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Luther
Pay $100 for a COMPLETE inspection by a qualified and TRUSTED mechanic. Case closed. Luther On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:30:43 -0500, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how a non technical buyer would check an A/C in January. Not sure how I would either ;-) -- Regards,

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread R A Bennell
Then sue your poor trusted mechanic who only got $100 if he turns out to be wrong? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
Luther wrote: So you are ok with a buyer being a dumbass and not checking EVERYTHING out on a used car regardless of the price paid? No more caveat emptor? If this is the case, Kaleb, I need you to pay for my transmission in the SDL. No. Actually, I agreed with the dissenting Judge who

Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes

2008-05-14 Thread Donald Snook
John R. wrote: So how much would all of those attorney fees cost? Surely more than the $4k in question! Definitely! That is one reason these cases get litigated and appealed is because of the award of fees. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For