Re: [MBZ] Not Al Bundy

: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not Al Bundy Prosecution screwed up big time in OJ trial, with chain of custody issues for key evidence against a backdrop of police brutality against minorities, plus a jury that was carefully vetted to include peopl

Re: [MBZ] Not Al Bundy

Small legal issue: The burden of proof lays with the accusing party. The accused is protected via Bill of Rights, 5th Article, from being forced to incriminate themselves, and may legally choose to stand silent. It appears governments prosecutor failed to produce proof beyond reasonable doubt

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Good point. When many people (including FBI instigators, I mean informants) were there for many days, who did what and who can prove it? Mitch. > On October 29, 2016 at 11:37 AM G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > Who actually did damage to the property? Any direct witness?

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I cringe when someone says "since the evidence was so clear" and the only exposure to said "evidence" is what was reported by the media, which has repeatedly failed to get the facts straight... On the other hand.. perhaps you have a direct pipeline of evidence .. if you do.. please share first

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Maybe that they might have been guilty, but not of the crimes they were charged with? http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/10/28/clear-jury-instructions-jury-nullification-freed-bundy-7/ A more biased view: http://outpost-of-freedom.com/blog/?p=1742#more-1742 > On October 29, 2016 at 10:06 AM

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Prosecution screwed up big time in OJ trial, with chain of custody issues for key evidence against a backdrop of police brutality against minorities, plus a jury that was carefully vetted to include people inclined to be sympathetic to OJ. I don't think the prosecutors blundered in the Bundy case

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Jury was in their corner. Feds are still going after the two sons for their mischief in NV. clay > On Oct 28, 2016, at 4:02 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Andrew, > > Since you have some connection to the situation (BLM) I am curious to know > your thoughts on

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...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] Not Al Bundy Andrew, Since you have some connection to the situation (BLM) I am curious to know your thoughts on the outcome of the trial with the Bundys and their occupation of the Federal lands in Oregon. I will say that I was stunned to see that they were acquitted

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This entire chain of events is seen by a large part of the population as classic government over reach. Still to come is prosecution of the officers who shot and killed the unarmed man who was part of the group driving to meet with government officials. It is a complicated case full of many

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Just because you're not guilty doesn't mean we have to let you go while we prepare to charge you with something else... ‘In an emotional climax to the trial in U.S. District Court in Portland, Ammon Bundy’s lawyer, Marcus Mumford, was tackled to the floor by U.S. marshals as he became involved

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; Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not Al Bundy > > http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/feds-release-pictures-of-6- > million-in-damages-bundy-militants-caused-to-oregon-reserve/ > > Sent from my iPad

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om" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not Al Bundy http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/feds-release-pictures-of-6-million-in-damages-bundy-militants-caused-to-oregon-reserve/ Sent from my iPad > On Oct 28, 2016, at 8:48 AM, Mitch Haley via

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;mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not Al Bundy > On October 28, 2016 at 7:02 AM Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > I will say that I was stunned to see t

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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/feds-release-pictures-of-6-million-in-damages-bundy-militants-caused-to-oregon-reserve/ Sent from my iPad > On Oct 28, 2016, at 8:48 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On October 28, 2016 at 7:02 AM Dan--- via Mercedes

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> On October 28, 2016 at 7:02 AM Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I will say that I was stunned to see that they were acquitted. I only hope > that the government pursues civil charges for the damage they did to Federal > property. Damage? I think you've got them

[MBZ] Not Al Bundy

Andrew, Since you have some connection to the situation (BLM) I am curious to know your thoughts on the outcome of the trial with the Bundys and their occupation of the Federal lands in Oregon. I will say that I was stunned to see that they were acquitted. I only hope that the government