The Generac home standby systems that are being sold
in the big box stores these days are very well
designed and engineered, despite being a Generac
product (commonly know as "Genecrap" in the industry.)
Dan
--- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Never the less for us (see my other post
> Never the less for us (see my other posts) I suspect a 10K genny would
> allow us to live life almost without disruption.
And for many folks. The usual whole-house automatic standby
unit they sell is in the 10-12kW range. It's a nice size.
A friend has a 20kW Ford/Onan industrial genset, it's
#x27;ve no doubt this one is much more efficient.
We've also got an electric stove and dryer.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:55:28 -0500
From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
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at night.
Never the less for us (see my other posts) I suspect a 10K genny would allow us
to live life almost without disruption.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:50:42 -0700
From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
T
There are two concerns with natural gas:
1.) Natural gas will have the lowest BTU content of
any fuel (LP, gasoline, natural gas.) As a result,
you won't get the nameplate ratings out of the genset
(engine) unless it's already rated for natural gas at
the given kW rating.
2.) In the event of an
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:50:42 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > We use ~300KW/month during the height of summer. Lets use 30 days for
> > a month, thats ~10KW a day.
> > Based on that I'd say a 10Kw generator would be plenty for us.
>
> You have a units problem. What you buy from t
use
> regularly, you have other good options.
>
> Anyway, that's my experience and opinion.
>
> Scott Ritchey
>
>
>
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> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work
> Sent: Frid
Curt Raymond wrote:
> We use ~300KW/month during the height of summer.
I guess you don't have A/C? I used almost 2400kWH last month. Thats
the highest I've ever used though... It should go down when the central
is working and I'm not using a 20+ year old wall unit (huge wall unit,
cools the w
Your Kohler is a 45R, which is a 45kW inherently
regulated model. No voltage regulator - the windings
are designed to do all the dirty work. It does, in
fact, crank from a special winding within the
exciter,but in order to do this, it has to have a
series-parallel battery setup to provide adequat
> We use ~300KW/month during the height of summer. Lets use 30 days for
> a month, thats ~10KW a day.
> Based on that I'd say a 10Kw generator would be plenty for us.
You have a units problem. What you buy from the power company
is kilowatt-HOURS. What you buy from the store is kilowatt capacit
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Having been through a few hurricanes in FL, the important thi
t for most folks Craig is right, as I say I'd bet we use alot less
power than the average consumer.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:46:08 -0600
From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Mes
OK, so I bought it today. $390. (Picked up a big swamp
cooler too, $230.) I made a web page for it:
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset3.html
I won't be able to do much with it for awhile. But you
get while the getting is good. If you want to save money.
-- Jim
__
> so this 6k diesel unit, will that power a house? What size is needed
> to
> power a house and run just about everything. At least be able to run
> the
> basics anyway.
I think those 5-6kW units are enough to be able to run the things
you need, though not without lifestyle changes. (Green Ac
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If somebody found that link I'd be interested.
My backup plan when the power goes out is the woodstove for heat (which
heats the whole house pretty
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so what size would a person need that would
> Kaleb C. Striplin
> Cox Auto Trader
> 730 FSBO Supervisor
>
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> From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:46 PM
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John Freer wrote:
>
> Around here, (CA) you also need to plan to spend about 700 bucks for
> permits, power Co approved switches, etc if you plan to tie your
> generator directly into the household panel.
What I do:
Switch the main breaker off, along with the major load breakers.
Plug a 25 year
You can simply add up the amount of all your inductive
loads, but then you need to figure out what you've got
in the way of motor loads, and what code letter the
motor is.
Inrush (starting) current on single phase motors can
be as much as 6x-8x the running current. That is also
affected by the ty
and only for a few hours each time.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:22:27 -0500
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>
> "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote:
>>
>> so what size would a person need that would run everything at the same
>> time
>> like regular line power?
>
> 200A service is about 40kw or
that sounds expensive
---
Kaleb C. Striplin
Cox Auto Trader
730 FSBO Supervisor
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Around here, (CA) you also need to plan to spend about 700 bucks for
permits, power Co approved switches, etc if you plan to tie your
generator directly into the household panel.
On 9/14/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote:
> >
> > so what size would a
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:40:21 -0700 "Alex Chamberlain"
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> FWIW, I have an electric furnace, stove, washer/dryer, water heater,
> and well pump in my new place. I anticipate running the generator
> only during winter outages, so A/C is not an issue. I basically just
> ne
"Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote:
>
> so what size would a person need that would run everything at the same time
> like regular line power?
200A service is about 40kw or 60hp. How about a 240D engine?
I can do a 240V well pump, two freezers, a fridge, and various lights/computer
etc on 11hp.
lin
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> During power outages, plan to use a camping stove or the BBQ and maybe the
> microwave. Don't wash the clothes etc.
> The generator will run the lights, the furnace fan, the refrigerator etc
> but
On 9/14/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a nice writeup on a web site by a fellow in Florida who has
> to contend with hurricanes. He has a setup with one of the Lister style
> diesel engines
> and a big genrator head. He
> has written a good description of how and why he has
ained if anyone is interested.
Randy
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> Kaleb C. Striplin
> Cox Auto Trader
> 730 FSBO Supervisor
>
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> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:26:35 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin, work"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> so this 6k diesel unit, will that power a house? What size is needed to
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:45 PM
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> Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
>> so this 6k diesel unit, will that power a house? What size is needed to
>> power a house and run just about everything. At least be
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:46:00 -0600 Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:26:35 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin, work"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > so this 6k diesel unit, will that power a house? What size is needed
> > to power a house and run just about everything.
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:26:35 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin, work"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so this 6k diesel unit, will that power a house? What size is needed to
> power a house and run just about everything. At least be able to run
> the basics anyway.
It depends upon what you consider the ba
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
> so this 6k diesel unit, will that power a house? What size is needed to
> power a house and run just about everything. At least be able to run the
> basics anyway.
It depends. How big is your A/C? Do you have electric heat/heat
pump/gas furnace? Etc...
Joh
t;
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> On 9/13/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > That's the lowest price by far I've seen on a Chinese diesel g
On 9/13/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's the lowest price by far I've seen on a Chinese diesel generator
> > package of that wattage.
>
> The local liquidator has a 6kW unit for $380. The wheels are off
> and the battery is out, obviously it's not in perfect condition.
> I'm st
$380 is a steal. Grab that thing.
I bet its in the wrong part of the country for me to swoop in and snag
it :-)
-Robert
Jim Cathey wrote:
>> That's the lowest price by far I've seen on a Chinese diesel generator
>> package of that wattage.
>>
>
> The local liquidator has a 6kW unit
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:37:51 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > That's the lowest price by far I've seen on a Chinese diesel generator
> > package of that wattage.
>
> The local liquidator has a 6kW unit for $380. The wheels are off
> and the battery is out, obviously it's not in pe
> That's the lowest price by far I've seen on a Chinese diesel generator
> package of that wattage.
The local liquidator has a 6kW unit for $380. The wheels are off
and the battery is out, obviously it's not in perfect condition.
I'm still thinking about picking it up. Dratted thing is 3600
RPM
Yes, 6500 is overkill for the 5th wheel. 4000 would be plenty, but for
the house I want to have enough to run the deep freeze an the blowers on
the furnace and a few other necessities, so I figure I ought to get
something a bit stouter than 4k. Either that or have to get two
different ones, whi
On 9/13/07, Robert & Tara Ludwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Those things appear to be well built, but they are seriously heavy.
>
> I'm trying to find an affordable quiet diesel generator for dual
> purpose , hauling around with the 5th wheel for camping, and around the
> house, but I have to fi
There's a few factories in China making those generators like the NT one
, then different retailers just get them painted different colours and
have their sticker popped on. If you dig around on ebay, there's a
seller who has them for $800 with the remote and automatic transfer
switch to make i
On 9/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This seems like a deal and may be just what some of you have been looking
> for. Page 11 shows item # 168100-1801 at $1299. Peak load is 6500 watts and
> it comes with electric start and a battery. Shipping weight is 377 pounds so
> pr
This seems like a deal and may be just what some of you have been looking
for. Page 11 shows item # 168100-1801 at $1299. Peak load is 6500 watts and
it comes with electric start and a battery. Shipping weight is 377 pounds so
proximity to Northern is probably a plus, though it does say f
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