Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer75--- via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 5:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot The link was bad but I found them on Amazon. The prices range from $27

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Gerry wrote: > Botulism germs already in the garlic? Didn't know that. Potentially. I'm not buying it. Too much paper around the clove, but the clove grows in paper in dirt. That's the story. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.o

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-19 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
> -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > archer75--- via Mercedes > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:32 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: arche...@embarqmail.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer75--- via Mercedes Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot Greg Fiorentino wrote: > Note: > What Curt

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Rich Thomas wrote: > The problem is that you are boiling them until they are completely dead, > the nutrients and flavors are gone -- the Suthrun way of cooking like my > mother and grandmothers all did! Best thing for veggies is to steam > them for a few minutes, blanch them in some boiling w

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Using a crockpot runs counter to what I learned in school - that cooking > destroys vitamins. Therefore, the less cooking time the more vitamins are > preserved. I usually steam veggies for a couple minutes, then turn off the > heat for 3 or 4 more mins. with the lid on

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Greg Fiorentino wrote: > Note: > What Curt said, but if you wash or rinse the vegetables, then the water that > clings to them is enough. I'm thinking green beans or asparagus here. Some > veggies are great on the grill. Zucchini is a good example: cut them in > quarters lengthwise, put them on a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
fmiser wrote: > Crockpot cooking is boiling food - even if the water never > actually boils. > All the crockpots I'm familiar with have the heating element > half way up the side! That means most of the time you will > want liquid at least that deep to transfer the heat to the > food. > To stea

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
G Mann wrote: > > I much prefer a bamboo steamer set over a Wok. > > The Wok quickly heats a cup or so of water to make steam, the bamboo > > steamer is just porous enough let the steam flow across the veggies yet > > steam them. No loss of flavor, and vegetables retain some of the natural > > cri

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:47:47 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: > And... > Don't try to infuse raw garlic in to olive oil. > I wanted to do that the other day and someone looked it up on internet > and my sons already knew. Botulism probable from anaerobic condition > in oil. Okay, so saute

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Randy Bennell wrote: > Crockpot is for things that need to be slow cooked, like stew, chili > etc. We also have found that it does a good job on lasagna. > RB It should be useful for family get-togethers and parties since it can be left on the warm setting and people can help themselves. Is pea

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Curt wrote: > Boiled veggies taste terrible, they have no place in a crock pot. > Put 'em in a covered dish in the microwave with a little water. Cook on high > for 4-5 minutes or until they hit your favorite degree of done-ness. They'll > be faux steamed and taste much better. > Something like

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crackpot

2015-09-18 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
We need that Hawaian sweet bread recipe from Curly. Please. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crackpot

2015-09-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You can deny it all you want but you're a culinary L as much as Grant. On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have had a rice cooker, a wok and a bamboo steamer for nearly 40 years, > and we use them regularly. > > I also ate mexican food lo

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crackpot

2015-09-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I have had a rice cooker, a wok and a bamboo steamer for nearly 40 years, and we use them regularly. I also ate mexican food long before there were any mexican restaurants. We had a tortilla press in the 60s and used it. Also early adopters of croissants (baking and selling), yogurt, (and m

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Crockpot is for things that need to be slow cooked, like stew, chili etc. We also have found that it does a good job on lasagna. RB On 18/09/2015 1:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Using a crockpot runs counter to what I learned in school - that cooking destroys vitamins. Therefore

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
er 18, 2015 6:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot Boiled veggies taste terrible, they have no place in a crock pot. Put 'em in a covered dish in the microwave with a little water. Cook on high for 4-5 minutes or until they hit you

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Grant cooks like a California liberal. Awesome! On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 2:28 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I much prefer a bamboo steamer set over a Wok. > > The Wok quickly heats a cup or so of water to make steam, the bamboo > steamer is just porous enough let the steam flow across the veg

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I much prefer a bamboo steamer set over a Wok. The Wok quickly heats a cup or so of water to make steam, the bamboo steamer is just porous enough let the steam flow across the veggies yet steam them. No loss of flavor, and vegetables retain some of the natural crispness of fresh vegetable, which a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Using a crockpot runs counter to what I learned in school - that cooking destroys vitamins. Therefore, the less cooking time the more vitamins are preserved. I usually steam veggies for a couple minutes, then turn off the heat for 3 or 4 more mins. with the lid on. I also grill whenever possible.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> archer75--- wrote: > > No one addressed the technique of > cooking raw vegetables, and there was much dispute about > how much water should be added. Crockpot cooking is boiling food - even if the water never actually boils. > The opinions on the 'net varied from a half cup of water to > cover

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
And... Don't try to infuse raw garlic in to olive oil. I wanted to do that the other day and someone looked it up on internet and my sons already knew. Botulism probable from anaerobic condition in oil. Okay, so saute garlic in oil on pan and proceed. Someone please tell us where ChowdahQ will be

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
, September 18, 2015 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot The problem is that you are boiling them until they are completely dead, the nutrients and flavors are gone -- the Suthrun way of cooking like my mother and grandmothers all did!  Best thing for veggies is to steam them for a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The problem is that you are boiling them until they are completely dead, the nutrients and flavors are gone -- the Suthrun way of cooking like my mother and grandmothers all did! Best thing for veggies is to steam them for a few minutes, blanch them in some boiling water for a few minutes, or

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
015 9:10 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot Since there are several knowledgeable cooks on the list, I have a questio: Because nearly all canned vegetables have a lot of salt, as well as some of the frozen vegetables, I bought an 8 quart crock pot/slow cooker that has 4 settings; 4

[MBZ] OT: Cooking in a Crockpot

2015-09-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Since there are several knowledgeable cooks on the list, I have a questio: Because nearly all canned vegetables have a lot of salt, as well as some of the frozen vegetables, I bought an 8 quart crock pot/slow cooker that has 4 settings; 4 and 6 hours on high, and 8 and 10 hours on low; with the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking Sous Vide

2013-09-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino
t: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking Sous Vide On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:05:20 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > Some people have taken a Crockpot and a simple Arduino controller to > make one of those things for cheap money. Basically a thermo sensor > and a relay to control the Crockpot, maybe $30 wort

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking Sous Vide

2013-09-19 Thread Craig
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:05:20 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > Some people have taken a Crockpot and a simple Arduino controller to > make one of those things for cheap money. Basically a thermo sensor > and a relay to control the Crockpot, maybe $30 worth of parts and some > simple programming. Thi

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking Sous Vide

2013-09-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino
m going to refrigerate and store pasteurized food, I chill it immediately in an ice water bath. Nothing is idiot-proof. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking Sous Vide

2013-09-19 Thread Craig
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:04:29 -0500 Randy Bennell wrote: > If one heated the sealed bags at higher temperatures, they might > explode?? Well, yes, if you make the liquid in the sealed bag boil, of course it will explode. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

[MBZ] OT: Cooking Sous Vide

2013-09-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I have been curious about this technique for the last few years, toying with the idea of springing for the $400 or so for the early consumer grade water oven. I was deterred by the price and also the lack of space for such an appliance in my kitchen. A few months back I happened upon a sous vide

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking Sous Vide

2013-09-19 Thread Randy Bennell
If one heated the sealed bags at higher temperatures, they might explode?? Randy On 19/09/2013 3:45 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:02:50 -0700 "Greg Fiorentino" wrote: I have been curious about this technique for the last few years, toying with the idea of springing for the $400 or

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking Sous Vide

2013-09-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Some people have taken a Crockpot and a simple Arduino controller to make one of those things for cheap money. Basically a thermo sensor and a relay to control the Crockpot, maybe $30 worth of parts and some simple programming. This is very easy to do even as a beginner project as I think the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking Sous Vide

2013-09-19 Thread Craig
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:02:50 -0700 "Greg Fiorentino" wrote: > I have been curious about this technique for the last few years, toying > with the idea of springing for the $400 or so for the early consumer > grade water oven. I was deterred by the price and also the lack of > space for such an ap

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

2009-03-22 Thread OK Don
Ahh - Ice Cream ! On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Wonko the Sane wrote: > > http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/sources-of-vitamin-b12-in-your-vegetarian-diet.html > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Archer wrote: > > > How do you get your vitamin B-12 and Folic Acid? > > Gerry > -- >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

2009-03-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/sources-of-vitamin-b12-in-your-vegetarian-diet.html On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Archer wrote: > How do you get your vitamin B-12 and Folic Acid? > Gerry > --- > -- next part -- An HTML

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

2009-03-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:25:15 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > If you coat that beef in some flour/pepper and brown it in some olive > oil or some such before cooking it, rather than just boiling it > straightaway, you will get lots more flavor and the flour will thicken > things up a bit too as it a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

2009-03-22 Thread Rich Thomas
If you coat that beef in some flour/pepper and brown it in some olive oil or some such before cooking it, rather than just boiling it straightaway, you will get lots more flavor and the flour will thicken things up a bit too as it all cooks. Veggie soup -- go to the store or farm stand and get

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

2009-03-22 Thread Archer
How do you get your vitamin B-12 and Folic Acid? Gerry --- From: Wonko the Sane Rick: Have him/her email me and I will be happy to assist. Best web site for this sort of thing is http://www.vegetariantimes.com/ Instead of using chicken broth, suggest veg

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

2009-03-21 Thread Wonko the Sane
Rick: Have him/her email me and I will be happy to assist. Best web site for this sort of thing is http://www.vegetariantimes.com/ Instead of using chicken broth, suggest vegetable broth. It is sitting right there on the grocery shelf beside the chicken broth. And the menu is not limited to vege

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

2009-03-21 Thread Christopher McCann
Costco has a vegetarian cookbook right now for $12 Chris 1985 300SD 242K miles --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Rick Knoble wrote: > From: Rick Knoble > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 10:27 PM > On the subject

Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

2009-03-21 Thread Rick Knoble
On the subject of cooking... I have a vegetarian friend at work who is looking for soup recipes (vegetable soup obviously). He wouldn't mind a chicken broth base, but he would prefer it to be vegetable only. Does anyone have recipes? Lt. Don? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT __

[MBZ] OT: Cooking

2009-03-21 Thread Craig McCluskey
I can't really top Don's gourmet pickup restoration techniques, but I did have a good time cooking today. Yesterday, Shirley boiled some beef ribs (which were on sale at the local Smith's) so she could then freeze them and have them on standby when she needs something relatively easy for dinner (d

Re: [MBZ] OT cooking

2009-03-18 Thread Wilton Strickland
oo. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Wonko the Sane" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT cooking > Ironically, I can't seem to grow sweet corn here. Tomatoes kick ... > (checking which list I am o

Re: [MBZ] OT cooking

2009-03-18 Thread Wonko the Sane
Ironically, I can't seem to grow sweet corn here. Tomatoes kick ... (checking which list I am on) ... butt. I buy sweet corn at the local farmer's market. Peppers and cucumbers do well. And if you don't want to garden, you just walk to the farmer's market and buy freshly picked organic produce for

Re: [MBZ] OT cooking

2009-03-18 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Don't need no stinkin' code to grow (or cook) corn in Iowa! ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Wonko the Sane" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT cooking > Code? What i

Re: [MBZ] OT cooking

2009-03-18 Thread Wonko the Sane
Code? What is this code of which you speak? That must be a city sort of thing. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > Rich Thomas writes: > > Yeah, just be prepared to possibly need a bigger gas line put in, and > also fight with the building department as restaurant equipment d

Re: [MBZ] OT cooking

2009-03-18 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas writes: > I like the idea of restaurant auctions, that would be an ideal > solution. Yeah, just be prepared to possibly need a bigger gas line put in, and also fight with the building department as restaurant equipment does not meet residential code (this may vary depending on where

Re: [MBZ] OT cooking

2009-03-18 Thread Gary Hurst
this is georgia, so i don't cook indoors for at least 4 months out of the year. propane grill. charcoal grill. big propane camping stove. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > If you are looking to get a good gas cooktop you need to look

Re: [MBZ] OT cooking

2009-03-18 Thread Rich Thomas
If you are looking to get a good gas cooktop you need to look at the higher-end units, which are gonna cost more than most of us pay for our cars. The good ones have wide-range outputs (very low to very high), the burners are arranged to put the heat in the middle of the pot and the edges (som