Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Build your own? http://www.zeva.com.au/tech/controller_design/ Looks like he's got $160 in a bank of ten MOSFETS alone. http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=120N20 One surprising thing I learned about MOSFET resistance ratings:

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: Yeah. Let's say you can get by with about a 100HP electric motor. Let's say it's about 100V battery pack. What's that rheostat got to handle, 75,000 W or so? 750A at 100V, yeah, I think Radio Shack has those... I haven't paid attention to recent advances, but I had some

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-04 Thread Rich Thomas
I'm thinking a wood gas car would be the way to go. It would give the greenies brain contortion fits as it is a renewable-energy zero emissions vehicle (just like an electric!), belching smoke all over. --R On 12/4/2010 9:45 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Yeah. Let's say you

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-04 Thread Allan Streib
Build your own? http://www.zeva.com.au/tech/controller_design/ Just one of those times where I wish I knew more about electronics. Allan On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:45 -0500, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Yeah. Let's say you can get by with about a 100HP electric

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond
of blowing the dammed thing up... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:52:01 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars Message-ID: 4cfa5591.6070...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-04 Thread Jim Cathey
I'd love to do wood fired steam power but just don't see steam engines for sale and I do work about the fairly likely chance of blowing the dammed thing up... You want a flash boiler, not the tank kind. Sorta like the tankless hot water heaters, except they make steam. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Agreed, harder to design for a wood burner though right? If I'm gonna gassify I'm going to burn it in an IC engine. -Curt Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 07:26:40 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

[MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
I just sold a Saab manual transmission I had lying around to a guy who is going to build an electric car out of a rolling Saab 99 shell he has. He plans to install the transmission just as in a gas car, but with an electric motor turning the transmission input shaft directly without a clutch; he

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Peter T. Arnold
Wait untill he finds out how much the controls will cost. I had a coworker who did this to an old VW about 10 years ago. With huge golf cart batteries he could go about 10 miles to work. No heat in winter Another retired Engineer buddy is working on his 3rd Prious On 12/3/2010 10:51 AM,

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:23:06 -0500 Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Wait untill he finds out how much the controls will cost. I had a coworker who did this to an old VW about 10 years ago. With huge golf cart batteries he could go about 10 miles to work. No heat in winter

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Wait untill he finds out how much the controls will cost. I'm not following you... isn't something to modulate the voltage pretty much the only control you need? Just a potentiometer connected to the throttle cable? And

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 08:39:42 -0800 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Wait untill he finds out how much the controls will cost. I'm not following you... isn't something to modulate the voltage pretty

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I think the standard approach is to use an electric fork lift motor, and run the batteries at 48V or more. You need a pretty hefty controller to handle the current (this element seems to be the one you need to buy new), and you also need to be fairly careful you don't fry your ass or blow

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
He can probably get away without shifting much at all. Just leave it in 3rd. Electric motors have torque at a standstill, unlike combustion engines. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 07:51 -0800, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: I just sold a Saab manual transmission I had lying

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
for some time. I'm still thinking a 190EV would be fun. I'd do just like that guy, 5spd (even a 4spd would be fine) and no clutch. -Curt Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 07:51:27 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: homebrew

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread WILTON
I'd like to build an electric Karman Ghia Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars I just sold a Saab manual

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars I just sold a Saab manual transmission I had lying around to a guy who is going to build an electric car out of a rolling Saab 99 shell he has. He plans to install the transmission just as in a gas car

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
Wilton wrote: I'd like to build an electric Karman Ghia A VoltsWagen? I know I'm stealing that one. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread WILTON
Yes. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars Wilton wrote: I'd like to build an electric Karman Ghia A VoltsWagen? I

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Tim C
http://evalbum.com/2367 Lots of others, even some finished ones. :) You can (or at least could a year ago) pick up a controller for $1-2k for a decent 120-144v system. Some people would parallel a bunch of 12v chargers, or buy a $500 charger if you don't like fire in the garage. Add in a $1k

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Tim C bb...@crone.us writes: I love EVs conceptually, and if I had time and $10k in mad cash the 240D would be rolling around town with upgraded suspension, an electric motor and 288v of lead (or lithium for just a little more :). Unfortunately (?) both were lacking so now it's being turned

Re: [MBZ] OT: homebrew electric cars

2010-12-03 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm not following you... isn't something to modulate the voltage pretty much the only control you need? Just a potentiometer connected to the throttle cable? And for charging, just a Battery Tender. Yeah. Let's say you can get by with about a 100HP electric motor. Let's say it's about 100V