And with the cost ofthe pump impellers being very low, I suggest
replacing them yearly until you gain a feel for how fast they wear
depending on the type and frequency of use they get, the kind of water
they are used in (water with lots of sand stirred up tends to damage the
impeller over
On 24/06/2013 8:38 PM, MG wrote:
Randy, You probably know all this but just in case.
I don't know if that outdrive has a water pump with a rubber impeller
in it but if it does be very careful to watch the temp gauge when you
first get it into the water. Run the engine but stay right by the
Randy Bennell wrote:
Yes, with these old OMC drives the motor cannot really be run on a hose
unless one has the adapter doodad that goes on the pivot assembly. I
don't have that so I removed the outdrive and ran the garden hose into
the hose from the intermediate housing into the engine.
On 25/06/2013 10:34 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Randy Bennell wrote:
Yes, with these old OMC drives the motor cannot really be run on a
hose unless one has the adapter doodad that goes on the pivot
assembly. I don't have that so I removed the outdrive and ran the
garden hose into the hose from
The boat that I am currently working on is just something I need to be
rid of. It is a 1973 18 foot Starcraft Holiday.
I got it with the idea of fixing it up for my own use but then got
another one very shortly after so this one became surplus.
I offered it for sale a couple of times as is, with
You're too far along to give up on it now. It sounds like a good boat.
Hopefully, it either ends up being better than your other boat or you can get
your money back out of it. If I had to pay for all of my labor on my projects,
I would be the biggest loser. Usually, I do projects for fun,
I have to say that I enjoy working on things like the boat.
Unfortunately, I want to do more to it than I can justify if I am just
going to sell it. A fellow I know is interested but he is not looking
for a perfect boat. He just wants something cheap to go fishing with in
an area where it may
Randy, You probably know all this but just in case.
I don't know if that outdrive has a water pump with a rubber
impeller in it but if it does be very careful to watch the temp
gauge when you first get it into the water. Run the engine but
stay right by the dock. If the boat hasn't been used
my father in law had an old Starcraft I/O with the 80HP Renault engine.
A couple years ago, I bought this old '69 17' Glasply with the Renault 80HP
I/O in it complete with the crank operated outdrive tilting mechanism. I
didn't know it at the time, but it had rot in the seat frames. I stayed
I've got room in the front and the back for foam, and it's goin' in before
it goes out again!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula
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One would have thought that by now the Diesel crowd would have suggested
an OM something would be ideal for a boat. Just don't go up any hills in it.
Hendrik
with no boat
Jim Cathey
240D does not put out similar horsepower but diesels have good torque
and I wonder if that would help to offset the loss of HP.
I suspect that the torque (acceleration) vs HP (speed) thing
is less useful for boats, so that one would miss any horsepower
that weren't there. Don't small boats
with 2 stroke outboard motors. I would like to get an inboard outboard
Why? You'd lose a lot of space to the motor that is now
hanging off the back of the transom. That's one thing I
really like about our outboard boat, lots of interior
space for its size. The squared open bow can seat
I am assuming the diesel would not be happy at that rpm
The MB diesels run up there, but would probably be happier
somewhat slower.
MB 61x diesels have a redline around 5000 RPM. My understanding is that
they were built to cruise on the Autobahn with one's foot to the floor
all day long.
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One would have thought that by now the Diesel crowd would have suggested
an OM something would be ideal for a boat. Just don't go up any hills
if that is sound
thinking - just something I have always
wanted to try.
Randy
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with 2 stroke outboard motors. I
ability
to hang on to it and repair it (which
was the initial intention when he gave it to us).
Randy
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MB
exit. Never felt
like I'd have any worry about doing that all day...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:58:36 -0500
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Those boat lovers looking for a diesel engine should look at the Universal
diesel used in sailboats. It relatively light, good power and uses very little
fuel. Should be an easy fit too.
I also believe they are two/three cylinder engines.
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with 2 stroke outboard motors. I would like to get an inboard outboard
Why? You'd lose a lot of space
I've got a bunch of the packing peanuts lying around along with some
styrofoam and even some air pouches from packaging. I GUERANTEE that it
won't go down ever again unless the hull is compromised!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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Na, Cathey never buys nothin' new :D! By repowering, I was thinking along
the lines of a used motor rather than fixing that one. Hopefully, it can be
fix rather than being totally fried.
On the subject of boats, I had quite an outing with my RC boat last time on
the water a couple days ago
One would have thought that by now the Diesel crowd would have suggested
an OM something would be ideal for a boat. Just don't go up any hills in it.
Hendrik
with no boat
Jim Cathey wrote:
What a shame about your boat motor, Jim! Are you planning to repower
it or
just give up on it?
Kevin Kraly wrote:
I swam over and grabbed it just as the bow was about to go under!
You got room for a block of EPS or EPP foam under the forward decking?
Mitch.
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One would have thought that by now the Diesel crowd would have
suggested
an OM something would be ideal for a boat. Just don't go up any hills
in it.
I can just see that goodyear blimp powerhead perched on top of the
little neck of the outboard Merc!
-- Jim
grabbed it just as the bow was about to go under!
It has now been dubbed The Titanic!
Time for some packing peanuts stuffed into the works!
-- Jim
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One would have thought that by now the Diesel crowd would
...new motors are U-gly.
I was at the boat parts place today, and they had a late-60's
Fiberform boat there. Small, a nice tidy little boat, and
in pretty good shape. It reminded me somewhat of what I
remember of the boat my family had before this one. But it
was shiny, and the chrome was
What a shame about your boat motor, Jim! Are you planning to repower
it or
just give up on it?
Plan to fix it, whatever's wrong. Repower is a distant
second, new motors are U-gly. (And north of $6k.)
-- Jim
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Do you want to know the two happiest days for a boat owner?
The day the boat was purchased, and the day it was SOLD!
Actually, I do have a great time on our 21' 220HP Mercruiser I/O deck boat,
but I wouldn't buy it if I had to do it all over again. I would buy a nice,
used, pre-depreciated
There was an article in the paper about all the nice large boats that
are being repossessed. With that glut on the market, one should be
able to find a nice hole in the water into which cash will flow.
Here we have five boats and some PWC that should sell for pennies.
What kind of boat?
It's a '74 fiberform, 18.5' open-bow tri-hull.
Nice lake boat. In total disgrace because the 850 Merc
engine puked and died the second day into the vacation,
and will barely run. I was unable to disassemble the
motor enough to liberate the carburetors, so it's
back home
You haven't heard? A boat is a hole in the water that you pour money
into.
Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924
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What kind of boat?
It's a '74
Did a search on this subject several months ago, but dropped the project
.. Nanni Diesels did convert Mercedes diesel to marine application
Mercedes OM636, marine conversion from the 170D sedan produced after
ww2 . 38 mpg
The sad results, but not final to my liking, is as we all
On Mar 16, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Potter, Tom E wrote:
Not at all. A turbocharger emits a very high-frequency sound. Even
higher than a turbine engine. Remember, these turbochargers turn over
100k rpm.
BTW, I also worked on gas turbine engines (ADJ-1, USN), and I found
the
turbochargers more of
I knew I'd find it again:
http://www.coastalboatsales.com/jfraley/gallery/scubaboo?page=1
Lots and lots of pages, so keep looking, there's plenty of marinized
MB diesel photos to drool over.
On 3/16/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 16, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Potter, Tom E wrote:
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On Mar 16, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Potter, Tom E wrote:
Not at all. A turbocharger emits a very high-frequency sound. Even
higher than a turbine engine. Remember, these turbochargers turn over
100k rpm.
BTW, I also
On Mar 17, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Potter, Tom E wrote:
For marine applications, you will need to reconfigure the cooling
system
and the exhaust system, primarily. I would use a keel cooler for the
cooling system. The water-cooled exhaust is primarily to keep the heat
out of the engine
Zeitgeist wrote:
I've always thought the combination of gasolene and wood construction
sounded like a bad idea, so diesel just made sense to me. The VW
engine would produce ~52hp at maybe 3200rpm, or maybe less--I forget.
52 hp at 4800 rpm, for the non-turbo 1.6L. The 1.5L puts out 48 hp at
Sheesh, clearly it's been a long time since I handled those engines.
It's simply amazing that the slightly larger 1.9L tdi engines are able
to produce their peak torque at ~1900 rpm. I really miss my '96
Passat tdi.
On 3/15/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
52 hp at 4800 rpm, for the
I, too, would love to replace my ailing Mercruiser 140 (GM four cylinder
iron duke engine) with an MB five cylinder diesel.
Anyone been there, done that?
Martin
84 300SD 300 000 miles
85 300SD 300 000 km
John Berryman wrote:
On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:44 PM, R A Bennell wrote:
Give me your
Are you sure you aren't confusing turbo engines with turbine engines here?
On 3/16/06, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Turbos can
destroy your hearing.
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Are you sure you aren't confusing turbo engines with turbine engines
here?
On 3/16/06, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
When I entered the Coast Guard, I had just finished up four years in college
as a music major and then one year working as a musician. Had great hearing.
Within the next couple of years, R-1820 recip engines then took out my low
freqs, and turbine helicopters took out the high freqs. Music doesn't
: [MBZ] OT Boats
On Mar 15, 2006, at 3:44 PM, R A Bennell wrote:
Give me your opinions please.
Randy B
You will need the parts to marinize whatever engine you chose. If
you find a source for drive adapters and plumbing/manifolds let me
know as I plan on replacing a ford 6 with MB
Somewhere there's a great website with a very detailed photo-log one
guy's efforts to re-power his boat with twin marinized OM617 turbo
engines. Hopefully someone around here has the link.
On 3/16/06, carbucks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I, too, would love to replace my ailing Mercruiser 140 (GM
Anyone on here read Wooden Boat magazine? Most recent issue has an
interesting article on a boat designed by Atkins (if I recall correctly)
called in his plans, Rescue Minor. It is an interesting hull configuration
that will run in about 6 inches of water. The original design (from a long
while
I think a company called Pathfinder Marine used to market a kit to
install a VW diesel engine in a boat. Since they're relatively
inexpensive, robust and plentiful, they'd be an interesting choice. I
think the later 1.6L NA w/hyd lifters would be ideal.
On 3/15/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Boats
I think a company called Pathfinder Marine used to market a kit to
install a VW diesel engine in a boat. Since they're relatively
inexpensive, robust and plentiful, they'd be an interesting choice. I
think the later 1.6L NA w/hyd lifters would be ideal
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