laptop...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:36:37 -0400
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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And both of these machines are still relevant and more than adequate for
probably 80-90% of most user's needs.
I see TiBooks for a few hundred dollars or less quite often. I have been
tempted, but I really don't need another laptop.
I just got a Newton from a Mac buddy who was going to toss
I just bought a near-perfect 2008 MacBook 15 on ebay from a very decent
seller. Can't find a scratch on it. It's FAST and beautiful; the only
negative is the battery only holds a 30 minute charge and needs replacing.
Any recommendations on what sort of battery to purchase and how much to
budget
Get a battery from OWC.
They have a third party company that makes batteries for them. They are cheaper
than Apple and usually have more capacity than the OEM battery.
I have purchased several of them over the years and have been very satisfied.
There was a service bulletin and a replacement
Looks like two choices for your MBP - a 58WH ($95) and a 60WH - ($114).
This dependent on whether it's a unibody or non-unibody machine.
MacDan
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On Aug 18, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
Get a battery from OWC.
They have a third party company that
Andrew, Check out http://kahlon.com/ they have good prices on High
Performance batteries to.
Bought one three years ago for my Compaq Lappy still holding a full charge.
Russ W.
On 8/18/2011 10:37 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Looks like two choices for your MBP - a 58WH ($95) and a 60WH - ($114).
I just got a replacement. The M90 I had was
about a $3000 laptop...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:36:37 -0400
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I just bought a near-perfect 2008 MacBook 15 on ebay
!) croaked.
Fortunately its a work laptop so I just got a replacement. The M90 I had
was about a $3000 laptop...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:36:37 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT computer still
I have bought OWC batteries for my 12 PB. Once when I first got it (used, and
the original battery would not charge) and I have replaced that once. I've
owned that PB for about 4 years I think, so to be on its second battery in that
time is not bad. There are definitely junk batteries out
Dan is right with whatever OWC recommends: http://www.macsales.com/
-Curt
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:51:18 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT computer still shuts down
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I love apple OS (minus the do it Steve's way stuff), and their hardware is top
rate, if sometimes odd.
I found that I can't use a 17 laptop -- to big, too heavy, and I cannot see
Remove the fan and heatsink from the processor. Scrape underside of heatsink
and clean as much gunk off processor as possible without damaging. Put on
new heat grease, reinstall heatsink. Fire it up and watch problems melt away
no wait, that's just the grease.
EdB
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at
computer still shuts down
I love apple OS (minus the do it Steve's way stuff), and their hardware is top
rate, if sometimes odd.
I found that I can't use a 17 laptop -- to big, too heavy, and I cannot see
the screen on the 13 ones, so I'm stuck with 15, sorta half way to what I
want.
You can always
I bought a 12 PB for my niece for college -- she loves it. Easy to
carry, light, and she still has young eyes and can see the screen
well. Great for dragging around to classes, and easier to use for
writing since the screen is longer rather than wider.
I still drag around a TiBook (1
Here's NewEgg's combo of the day:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.719896
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Here's NewEgg's combo of the day:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.719896
Oops, took a good look at that combo and I don't think I'd go for it, but it's
better than buying a $329 eMachine.
1. Should have a better power supply with
Todays electrolytics aren't as bad as yester-years.
Tantalum caps are good, but not the end-all either. They're more exppensive
to put on the board, so they drive cost up. If it's worth the extra? I'm not
sure to be honest. The lower ESR is always good, as well as the thermal
stability, so for
Or you can have bootleg 'lytics made with the wrong ingredients that fail
within a matter of weeks of being made.
This happened to Apple and a number of other computer manufacturers back in
2005-6.
IMacs had bad MBs and power supplies as a result.
I have picked up several of these machines,
AM
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I hate to stick a new board in it and it still does it but its just
about got to be something on the board.
Rich Thomas wrote:
It is probably the mobo going flaky. You can get a new mobo/processor
cheap, with some
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT computer still shuts down
Kaleb
MSI makes some good Mobos. The AMD Phenom CPU is a good one also.
The only thing I don't like about the system is the 400w PS. 500w is the
least that
I use when building a system for a client.
That's my 2¢ worth.
Russ W.
On 8/15/2011 5:47 PM
quiet.
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Kaleb
MSI makes some good Mobos. The AMD
a
difference. I like quiet.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT computer still shuts down
Kaleb
MSI makes
Whaaat? Did you say something?
Weenies. Man up and get server grade fans. Go deaf like the rest of us!
Dan (who sits next to a data center all day)
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On Aug 16, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey
ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
In my experience, the higher wattage
Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote:
In my experience, the higher wattage PS fans are noiser. If that makes a
difference. I like quiet.
I've got an OCZ P/S with a huge horizontal fan in my Compaq. (fan covers the
bottom of the power supply, instead of occupying a fraction of the rear)
I can hear
OCZ = awesome.
They've sadly discontinued the Rally series flash drives.. :(
Walt
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote:
In my experience, the higher wattage PS fans are noiser. If that makes a
difference. I like quiet.
I've got
Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote:
In my experience, the higher wattage PS fans are noiser. If
that makes a difference. I like quiet.
Mitch Haley wrote:
I've got an OCZ P/S with a huge horizontal fan in my Compaq.
(fan covers the bottom of the power supply, instead of
occupying a
I thought yesterday the problem was with the XP drive, with it unplugged
the vista drive fired up normally. I did have it do the shut down in
the middle of booting once after that. This morning it started doing it
again. It would not boot at all, would just shut off. Tried starting
in in
Oy! Why didn't you say this was an eMachine?
Then we would have known what to do from the get-go: take it to the crusher and
put it in the back seat of one of your cars
Dan
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On Aug 15, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
I thought yesterday
It is probably the mobo going flaky. You can get a new mobo/processor
cheap, with some memory, maybe a new id card, and just use the old box
and drives. Take about 30 min to change it out. Microcenter and Newegg
have some package deals usually. Then you'll have a new machine that
should
I hate to stick a new board in it and it still does it but its just
about got to be something on the board.
Rich Thomas wrote:
It is probably the mobo going flaky. You can get a new mobo/processor
cheap, with some memory, maybe a new id card, and just use the old box
and drives. Take about
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:This is
just a cheapie emachine computer I bought about 4 years ago. Im leaning
toward just buying a new one.
Possibly failing capacitors on the MB. Cheap way is to replace the caps, easy
way is to replace the MB. When I did that to Dad's eMachine this spring, I
Bzzt! emachine often use oddball cases. it may not be compatible
with standard components. Tigerdirect also has barebones systems
for pretty good prices.
Might be cured with a pci video card, but may be other motherboard problems.
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I worked on a lot of eMachines in the past, and regretted it every time.
It was obvious that they put whatever was the cheapest that day in the box.
Case in point: I had two identical machines on the bench, both with the same
model number and specs, and they had totally different motherboards,
If you go the route replacing/upgrading the MoBo, which I would do, make
sure to replace the PS also. Dell/Emachines have a different pinout in the
identical power connector.
The old PS will fry your new MoBo instantly.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
That is why I recommend putting the emachine in a car for crushing,
and start with a barebones, or other kit machine that you don't have
to buy an OS with.
Put it together and load the OS and you end up with a clean machine
without all the crap manufacturers put on, not to mention the messed
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Put it together and load the OS and you end up with a clean machine without
all the
crap manufacturers put on, not to mention the messed up bios and advertising
on the
startup screens.
Ditto. If you can pull a
Buy a Mac
clay
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On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
It is probably the mobo going flaky. You can get a new mobo/
processor cheap,
I love win2k, but only with SP4.
I just have a blank slate snapshot in most of my VM's as well, no
need to reinstall.
Walt
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Put it together
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:
I love win2k, but only with SP4.
Won't any fresh installation of W2K automatically update itself to SP4
when it pings MS via Windows Update? Or am I missing something---is
SP4 something you have to particularly look for
There was a study that showed that an unpatched Windows install connected to
the internet will often get compromised before you get the updates downloaded.
Always connect such a machine via a router or good firewall.
Allan
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:40 -0700, Alex Chamberlain
Much easier to install SP4 manually with a copy that was burned to a CD.
W2K was also EOL'd so the online-update carp might not work. Never
tried it personally.
Walt
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Walt Zarnoch
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:
Much easier to install SP4 manually with a copy that was burned to a CD.
W2K was also EOL'd so the online-update carp might not work. Never
tried it personally.
Good point. The download is still on MS' site, for now:
You are making the VM too hard. After you finish an install with the
software you want, duplicate the VM and store it in a safe place.
When the VM gets corrupt, copy the safe VM and put that in the
folder where you just deleted the corrupted VM.
You are making the VM too hard.On Mon, Aug 15,
is tiger direct the best place these days to get a bare bone? I have
always build my own computers but this last time I just bought this
cheap emachine deal. I have the system less the hard drive from my
system before, its a big server type case but I suppose I could put a
new board in it
Newegg or Tiger, but I'm partial to Newegg myself.
Walt
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
is tiger direct the best place these days to get a bare bone? I have always
build my own computers but this last time I just bought this cheap emachine
deal.
I would agree with that except I will say this one has been plugging
along for 4-5 years and never had a bit of trouble till now. As I said
before, I usually roll my own, and am looking into that now but it has
been my experience lately thats its cheaper to just go buy one at the
store. If I
No difference, they're the same company now.
My last (current) roll it myself was ~$750, and had specs better
than the $1200 machines.
Walt
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
I would agree with that except I will say this one has been plugging along
I have always built my own until I needed to upgrade before and
discovered it was cheaper to just buy one at the store. I actually have
both a copy of XP and windows 7 that, well, lets say, I can use.
On 8/15/2011 11:42 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:22 AM,
If you have a CompUSA nearby they have everything you need at a little bit more
than NewEgg. In fact, they have some sort of partnership with NewEgg.
Dan
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On Aug 15, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
is tiger direct the best place these days to
If you have a windows 2000 CD, you can update it to 2000 SP4 with a
process called slipstreaming. Load the cd into a folder on the HD.
Download the SP4 executable. Search for slipstream windows 2000
for instructions.
Or see:
http://www.petri.co.il/windows_2000_xp_sp_slipstreaming.htm
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
is tiger direct the best place these days to get a bare bone?
Subscribe to Newegg's shell shocker emails.
They'll have a good deal on a parts kit once or twice a week.
Mitch.
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So HP or Compaq are the same company now, but how are they as compared
to a dell or emachines? Are they junk?
On 8/15/2011 2:38 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
No difference, they're the same company now.
My last (current) roll it myself was ~$750, and had specs better
than the $1200 machines.
Walt
I thought they all went out of business? The one here shut down years
ago. Now the only big box computer store is best buy. We used to
have 2 or 3 here at one point.
On 8/15/2011 2:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
If you have a CompUSA nearby they have everything you need at a little bit more
The new owners opened a few of the old stores, not sure how many of them.
I didn't even realize the one here had reopened until someone told me.
They still suck, IMHO, but it's an easy place to go to find something when I'm
in a hurry and not get ripped off by places like Best Buy.
They are
HP bought out Compaq some years back.
Due to licensing on some product lines, they are still sold under the Compaq
brand name but are made by HP.
HP makes good stuff for the most part.
You will be hard pressed to find much in the way of desktops these days. When I
went out to buy my youngest
By the time you buy the required power supply, you will find that you
can buy a power supply in a case cheaper in most cases. Nothing
stopping you from buying the new barebones with a case, then taking
out the PS and throw away the new case.
There are lots of places to buy components. Some
HP/Compaq/Dell are all pretty much the same. they all use non-std
components just like emachines in some models. Lots of crap on the
hard drive and lots of advertising built in. They like to hide
things from you, so you get disgusted and take the thing to one of
their stealers.
So HP or
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes:
There are lots of places to buy components. Some price barebones
systems. Many of the tigerdierct barebones systems are a set of
components for a complete computer, less OS. I had trouble 10 years
ago with a computer bought tiger. The only way it
That's because they are owned by Newegg.
On 8/15/2011 2:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
If you have a CompUSA nearby they have everything you need at a little bit more
than NewEgg. In fact, they have some sort of partnership with NewEgg.
Dan
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On Aug 15, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Kaleb
I use Directron (Houston Based) or Newegg foe 90% of my needs.
Newegg has specials on BareBones systems that are hard to beat.
Had Bad experiences with Tiger Direct on their shipping cost i.e 15
bucks for USPS shipping on a part that
weighed 7oz. Sh
Russ W.
On 8/15/2011 2:31
I have not looked yet but back when I used to order bare bones, they had
a tool that you picked what MB, memory, case, any other accessories you
wanted and priced it. You could order it anyway you wanted. In my case,
I would probably just go with a new case, MB, processor, and ram. I can
I think tiger started the practice of grossly overcharging for
freight that is so widespread now. In fact it led to ups and fedex
charging next day air prices for 7 day ground packages.
I use Directron (Houston Based) or Newegg foe 90% of my needs.
Newegg has specials on BareBones systems
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So HP or Compaq are the same company now, but how are they as compared
to a dell or emachines? Are they junk
A bad power supply can do all of the things you have happening -- all
it takes is a drop in voltage to the CPU to kill it, and the PS can
drop off line, too. Had the same problem myself occasionally with my
brother's computer.
You should also check the temperature of the CPU in the BIOS
speaking of all this, it has been a long time since I have looked at
barebones systems etc. How do you know what to get as far as
processor? They dont seem to refer to them in mhz or ghz anymore so I
am not sure if what I am looking for is a fast processor or a slow one.
Is AMD or Intel
The only real variable in processors these days is the number of
cores on the die, they all run about the same speed -- which is why
they don't rate them. 2.5 to 3.0 GHz is the usual range, I think
(above that they require liquid helium cooling or they melt!).
So your choice is really,
what about something like this?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=758127CatId=336
On 8/15/2011 5:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
speaking of all this, it has been a long time since I have looked at
barebones systems etc. How do you know what to get as
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
speaking of all this, it has been a long time since I have looked at
barebones systems etc. How do you know what to get as far as
processor?
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
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MSI makes some good Mobos. The AMD Phenom CPU is a good one also.
The only thing I don't like about the system is the 400w PS. 500w is the
least that
I use when building a system for a client.
That's my 2¢ worth.
Russ W.
On 8/15/2011 5:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
what about
My AMD Phenom quadcore is running overclocked at 3.5 with air, just happy.
Stock heatsink.
I've had it to 4 but it was getting a little warmer than I'd like.
Walt
On Aug 15, 2011 6:42 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
The only real variable in processors these days is the number of
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Look on eBay for a used HP xw8200 or xw8400, those are real workstation class
PCs,
you should be able to find one cheap. Keep the innards clean and it'll SMOKE
any of
the POS black Friday deal crap you can buy at any
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Look on eBay for a used HP xw8200 or xw8400, those are real workstation
class PCs,
you should be able to find one cheap. Keep the innards clean and it'll
SMOKE any of
the POS black Friday deal crap you can buy at any
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
as far as I can tell for normal use anything above two is totally
wasted. Unless you rendering video or maintaining a corporate size
database, you will never see the difference.
Or writing serious code. Nothing
Yeah, hence why I was, and still am, OC'd to 3.5 with 8G of ram.
Throw the source in a ramdrive, compile with -j 16, 4 minutes later out pops
my cross-compiled kernel. :)
Walt
On Aug 15, 2011 7:23 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Peter
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
This is just a cheapie emachine computer I bought about 4
years ago. Im leaning toward just buying a new one.
Mitch Haley wrote:
Possibly failing capacitors on the MB. Cheap way is to replace
the caps, easy way is to replace the MB. When I did that to
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
If you have a windows 2000 CD, you can update it to 2000 SP4 with a process
called slipstreaming. Load the cd into a folder on the HD. Download the
SP4 executable. Search for slipstream windows 2000 for instructions.
Or
Petri.il is a good source for info when you are a reluctant or
professional network admin. Mark menasi is a good source too.
www.minasi.com/
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
If you have a windows 2000 CD, you can update it to 2000 SP4 with a process
customer and
what you buy at the Apple store or online.
Dan
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT computer still shuts down
HP bought Compaq 9+ years ago.
All
,
and there is no difference between what I get as an enterprise customer and
what you buy at the Apple store or online.
Dan
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT computer still shuts
I love apple OS (minus the do it Steve's way stuff), and their
hardware is top rate, if sometimes odd.
I found that I can't use a 17 laptop -- to big, too heavy, and I
cannot see the screen on the 13 ones, so I'm stuck with 15, sorta
half way to what I want.
You can always attach a
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