> Rick
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> Yeah it's astonishing the amount of privacy we've given up for the sa
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Yeah it's astonishing the amount of privacy we've given up for the sake of
convenience.
At least you can turn the phone off if you want
Well it appears to turn off. Most phones don't have a removable battery, so one
really doesn't know.
Rick
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Yeah it's
ras
> don't seem like such a big deal.
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> Chicago just
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> Chicago just had a case where a license plate scanner spotted
Given that we carry cell phones with continuous tracking plus ID, cameras
don't seem like such a big deal.
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The Pittsburgh bus on the tumbled down bridge was riddled with nine cameras.
It will be used to see why the recent infrastructure boondoggle caused the
bridge to collapse as a photo op for the current resident.
Clay
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regular basis. A lot of people were pissed off about them.
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Don't seem very popular
regular basis. A lot of people were pissed off about them.
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Don't seem very popular in UK
Chicago just had a case where a license plate scanner spotted a car that had
been reported stolen in a carjacking. The police stopped it and a shootout
ensued. These are going up all over the area, you will not be able to drive on
any major road without being tracked in real time.
On Sun, Jan
I say either enforce the heck out of the speed limits, or abolish them.
this middle ground, "We have a law but don't want to know who violates it"
is crap.
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> Don't seem very popular in UK, but what about USA?
Don't seem very popular in UK, but what about USA?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1047/The-speed-camera-nightmare-thats-coming-America.html
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While I don't suggest exceeding the speed limit by 50%, some
went to 65mph but around Portland its still 55) will (as it ought to)
result in a ticket.
Saying that if you go exceed the speed limit a ticket shouldn't be surprising.
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Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 22:06:47 -0400 (EDT)
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I went through this with some of my classmates in high school, it
doesn't matter what YOU THINK a reasonable speed is, there is a posted
speed which is the law.
Yes, maybe. But then, how were the original speed limits
set in the first place? They watched the roads, and set them
at the speed
While I don't suggest exceeding the speed limit by 50%, some states have
draconian speed limit laws which help foster a belief that that speed limit
laws are stupid. Take VA for example - anything 80MPH and over is
considered reckless driving, even though the state has a maximum speed
limit of
Speaking of I-95 -- it usually moves along (where it moves along) at 80
or so. What is interesting is that the further north you go, the more
nannyism appears -- crossing the border into NC from SC you see a few
signs warning of dire consequences, crossing from NC to VA there are
like 6 signs
Yes, VA and DC are the only two jurisdictions in the country where radar
detectors are illegal.
Basically if you think along the lines of VA hates people and hates cars
more you're not far off. Did you know that in VA if they sent your tax
bill to the wrong address, send you a bill for the
Yes, maybe. But then, how were the original speed limits
set in the first place? They watched the roads, and set them
at the speed at which most people were driving.
Interesting, eh?
-- Jim
yes, in 1932 or so. The technology to go fast was much different
then, as were the road widths,
On the flip side, Montana thumbed their nose at the federal government when
it comes to speed limits. Back when the national speed limit was 55 MPH,
to comply with federal law, Montana made it a $5 fine.
And better yet, it was unreported. You just give the oncifer a
Lincoln and say thank
What I like best about Montana is the attitude if you don't like our laws,
don't come here.
In other states, not all speeding tickets will show up on your license. It
depends on the where and the circumstances. In New Mexico, rural speeding
tickets generally are not reported, at least on the
denominator, at night, in the rain, when they're tired. Because yes
they're too stupid to slow down.
-Curt
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While I don't suggest exceeding the speed limit by 50%, some states have
draconian speed limit laws which help
...I went through this with some of my classmates in high school, it
doesn't matter what YOU THINK a reasonable speed is, there is a posted speed
which is the law. Exceeding that posted speed by more than 50%..
So you are saying that in a posted 60mph zone, anything up to 90mph is OK,
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
If you are every near Dayton, OH, stop in at the Air Force Museum. There is
on there (I think it's the interceptor prototype, not the spy plane). Great
hulking predatory looking thing up close, great fun.
The
There's also an SR-71 on the aircraft carrier museum in NY - I forget the
name, and where, though it is floating. It is more impressive in person than
in photos ---
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Peter Frederick
Russ W. wrote:
Another amazing work of Kelly Johnson and the Skunk Works.
Cool.
Now, what about controlling that beast in flight? autopilot? in the '60's?
I will see if there is any mention of that at wiki.
But, since you know this stuff - speak on...
Thanks.
mao
At Mach3 no one can hear you scream when you put a too-large input into
the aircraft controls.
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On 6/6/11 4:38 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
Russ W. wrote:
Another amazing work of Kelly Johnson and the Skunk Works.
Cool.
Now, what about controlling that beast in flight? autopilot? in the
Yep it had an autopilot.
At 75, ft the there was only IIRC 10Kts difference between Vne and
Stall speeds.
On 6/6/2011 3:38 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
Russ W. wrote:
Another amazing work of Kelly Johnson and the Skunk Works.
Cool.
Now, what about controlling that beast in flight?
Reportedly turning at that altitude in a U2 was a hairy experience --
the outside wing would be shaking because it was going into a high
speed shock stall, and the inside wing would be shaking in a low
speed aerodynamic stall.
Of course, it wasn't carrying passengers, either.
Peter
i heard somewhere at sometime that it expanded several inches in length
during flight too, which helped the tanks seal up as all the metal got
hot and expanded.
--R
On 6/6/11 12:02 AM, Russ Williams wrote:
The SR-71 leaked like a sieve on the ground. From the SR-71's
Wikipedia site.
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 23:14:54 -0400 Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
i heard somewhere at sometime that it expanded several inches in length
during flight too, which helped the tanks seal up as all the metal got
hot and expanded.
That's what the Wikipedia article says.
If you are every near Dayton, OH, stop in at the Air Force Museum.
There is on there (I think it's the interceptor prototype, not the
spy plane). Great hulking predatory looking thing up close, great
fun. Lots of other fun stuff as well, of course.
They have (or had, when I was there
:41 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed
MG wrote:
Wilton, wouldn't that be only measured at sea level? I would
think that
as you go higher in altitude that one minute of arc would get
longer.
Now mind I'm only
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed
And that is why I like the metric system, a kilometer is 1000 meters.
You and your bizarre backward system.
Hendrik
WILTON wrote
RLE wrote:
The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.
And... why is that?
As I understand it - there is little room for error of any sort at
those altitudes.Hand flying at lower altitude is able to be accomplished
because error
is less likely to be catastrophic
Two
kilometers per hour
knots is nautical miles per hour
--R
On 6/3/11 3:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
...This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at
altitude?..
Knots are knots, never knots per
Don't know but I know the passenger display in airliners shows the
planes speed in kmh but I would guess the persons up the front would
have the old school readout.
Hendrik
who is off to work, hei ho hei ho hei ho
WILTON wrote:
So, do speed indicators on Aussie airplanes and sea-going vessels
My thoughts, too.
Wilton
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed
Don't know but I know the passenger display in airliners shows the
planes speed
RLE wrote:
Think of the SR-71.
Yeah.
And that is old old technology.
Did they have some autopilot mechanisms to fly that baby?
What was their service ceiling?
I remember my visit to the air museum there at Boeing field and
speaking with the docent there about the blackbird class aircraft they
The SR-71 leaked like a sieve on the ground. From the SR-71's Wikipedia
site.
Fuel
Development began with using a coal slurry powerplant,^[20]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird#cite_note-johnson_bio-21
but Johnson determined that the coal particles damaged engine
RLE wrote:
The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.
And... why is that?
As I understand it - there is little room for error of any sort at
those altitudes.
Hand flying at lower altitude is able to be accomplished because error
is less likely to be catastrophic.
mao
Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes:
RLE wrote:
The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.
And... why is that?
As I understand it - there is little room for error of any sort at
those altitudes.
Yes. Transport aircraft are aerodynamically stable, unlike some modern
fighters
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed
BTW, a nautical mile (6080 feet) is also one minute of arc of
latitude - on
land, on water, on ice, in the air, wherever. A statute mile, of
course, is
5280 feet.
Because
MG wrote:
Wilton, wouldn't that be only measured at sea level? I would think that
as you go higher in altitude that one minute of arc would get longer.
Now mind I'm only thinking back to my school days and that circle and
pie wedge thing in beginning geometry.
Remember that a circumference
And that is why I like the metric system, a kilometer is 1000 meters.
You and your bizarre backward system.
Hendrik
WILTON wrote:
BTW, a nautical mile (6080 feet) is also one minute of arc of latitude
- on land, on water, on ice, in the air, wherever. A statute mile, of
course, is 5280 feet.
-
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed
MG wrote:
Wilton, wouldn't that be only measured at sea level? I would think that
as you go higher in altitude that one minute of arc would get
...This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at
altitude?..
Knots are knots, never knots per hour.
The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.
RLE
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On 03/06/2011 2:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
...This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at
altitude?..
Knots are knots, never knots per hour.
The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.
RLE
A
Like I said, a knot is one nautical mile (6080 feet) per hour.
Wilton
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed
...This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
commercial
.
Wilton
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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed
Like I said, a knot is one nautical mile (6080 feet) per hour.
Wilton
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I never ever ever give them the right to search my vehicle. If they want
to invade my personal space they are going to have to work for it. And
get their superior officer out there. And look like idiots for wasting
everyones time. The first thing I say when they want to search my
vehicle is
A few years back when my son was starting college in the Philadelphia
area we drove up there from Texas in the Suburban to haul him and his
stuff. My wife flew up then we went on for some little vacation time.
Anyway, the evening after dropping him off we were driving to a hotel in
Phil, and
DWT = driving while tired?
-Max
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speed Traps in VA
A few years back when my
: [MBZ] Speed Traps in VA
A few years back when my son was starting college in the Philadelphia
area we drove up there from Texas in the Suburban to haul him and his
stuff. My wife flew up then we went on for some little vacation time.
Anyway, the evening after dropping him off we were driving
It seems like not much has changed as I can remember speed traps in the
Rappahannock, VA area in the '60s prior to the completion of I95 which were
after military folks traveling north/south on weekends and, since I moved to
western NC and have made numerous trips to/from Pbgh., I've found
When I picked up a W108 (280S) in Norfolk, I had to drive cross country to get
to I95.
While passing through a small town, I was pulled over by a cadre of local law
enforcement folks.
Seems that my Florida license plate piqued their interest, as apparently this
was a route frequented by drug
On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130
mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast? The car is never going to
go anywhere near that fast. It really narrows down the selection and
raises the price. Why cant a T=118mph tire be used? That opens up alot
more
My guess (and that's all it is - a guess), is that higher speed rated tires
have stiffer sidewalls, and handle higher temps. A heavier car will need
stiffer sidewalls, and will generate more heat while driving. Then again,
the cars were designed for the autobahn
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 5:38
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130
mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast?
I think it's because they don't want to be blamed for selling you a tire with a
lower rating than OEM. What do Altimax HP cost in that size?
Mitch.
The HP's which are a H rated tire cost 84 in that size, the RT which is
a T rated tire is 75
Mitch Haley wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130
mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast?
I think it's because they don't want
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Subject: [MBZ] speed ratings
I have Cientra tires on my 300D, they are an speed rating S and load
rating 90 tire, made in Mexico by BF Goodrich. They were cheap, but
actually have better snow performance than the Michelin X1 tires I had
before these (had to replace them because the bands were separating).
I don't think I've
Tom Hargrave wrote:
Kaleb,
Speed rating is about a lot more then speed. Speed rating also affects how
the tires handle. H rated tires have much stiffer sidewalls than S rated
tires and since the tires are an active part of a car's suspension,
downgrading from H to S rating, particularly the
Because when some idiot steals it and drives it at 120 and a tire
blows, YOU are liable for his injuries because you put tires on the
car that weren't good enough for how fast it would go.
Peter
On Feb 8, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:44:47 -0600 Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote:
... as long as I go back to Firestone every 6,000 miles so they can
rotate them and steal my metal valve stem caps (again).
Maybe you should take the valve stem caps off before you go there.
Craig
From what I've read about the tires originally intended for use on the W140,
they were much softer and of higher performance. Due to the weight and size
of the car, they wore very fast, and the US market just wouldn't got for an
expensive tire that had to be replaced every 10,000 miles or so.
Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
From what I've read about the tires originally intended for use on the
W140,
they were much softer and of higher performance. Due to the weight and size
of the car, they wore very fast, and the US market just wouldn't got for an
expensive tire
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
From what I've read about the tires originally intended for use on the
W140,
they were much softer and of higher performance. Due to the weight and
size
of the car, they wore very
as i understood it, the speed rating only relates to using the tire for
some fixed period of time (70 minutes, or something like that) before
cooling down completely; anything longer than that is over spec.
if, like so many MBZ drivers do, you drive your car at highway speed
or more for more
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From what I've read about the tires
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you seem to feel the need to add limited to your top speeds for some
reason?
I should think that would be self explanatory. In the case of the C320 the
top speed is limited by the governor at 130 even though without it, it will go
about 20mph faster. The two Porsches and the 450SE can't go any
I'm not an engineer, but spent enough time at race tracks, and messing with
cars that are tracked to know what the air can and does do. I've driven
911's back to back, same power, set up etc, but with and without wings. I
am somewhat familiar with 944s as friends and I have build 3 of them from
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in the '08 C-Class.
Is it a turbulator strip as found on the back window of the W201 Evo II?
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I have yet to find myself with enough open space, time and daring to
hit the 97mph listed top speed on my 190D.
I had a 1996 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera (VERY reliable, competent, but
boring and SOUL-LESS). It had a fuel cut off at 107. I was driving
from Topeka to
I think 155 mph was the limited number for many years to keep the Green
Party at bay. Not all played, mercedes and bmw kept to it, porsche never
did. I think with the recent HP wars, both mercedes adn bmw have pushed the
limiter to the sides, or given an option to do so. I think wiht AMG
Speaking of T34's - I saw what looked like a T34 with a turbo prop
engine in pattern to land at our local airport this weekend - had USAF
markings.
I got to ride in a T34 once in CAP - but it was just around the pattern once.
When I was in USAF field training, we cadets got a flight in a T34.
Ahh - but it's the journey, not the destination that matters - I like
mine circuitous, winding (in three dimensions), sometimes inverted,
etc. 3 G's didn't seem uncomfortable back when I was young - wonder
what it would be like now ---
I would like to be able to say to a few friends, Why don't
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:54:25 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3 G's didn't seem uncomfortable back when I was young - wonder
what it would be like now ---
Is that positive or negative 3 Gs? :-)
Craig
You'd probably see your lunch again...
Bob r
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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speed
Ahh - but it's the journey, not the destination that matters - I like
3 positive, probably less than 2 negative. I can't imagine the high
G's that the air show and champion aerobatic pilots pull ---
Is that positive or negative 3 Gs? :-)
Craig
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Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:03:04 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3 positive, probably less than 2 negative. I can't imagine the high
G's that the air show and champion aerobatic pilots pull ---
When I was in USAF field training, we cadets got a flight in a T34. We
pulled 5.6 g positive. I
True - perhaps the speed would make up for the boring straight and
level.
I would like to be able to say to a few friends, Why don't we have lunch in
Reno or Carmel today.
RLE/Seattle
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ned kleinhenz wrote:
Ohio strictly enforces speed limits upon EVERYBODY. When driving in
Michigan, I note little regard by ANYBODY for the speedlimits.
That's certainly true, especially around the Detroit area. Unless
you're doing something really egregious, like weaving through traffic,
In Ohio, the rare nutcase is very common. They also pass on the right
shoulder. We also have our fair share of silver haired drivers that
are so short, the car looks unoccupied from behind. They usually have
the clip on wrap-around rear view mirror and the amber sunglasses that
fit over their
Hi, All.
My (first) wife had an Olds F85 station wagon with a 330 and a 2 speed, 0
to 70 mph in first, then second, went very fast up to seventy then it
became a bit of a slug. Was young and very foolish those days!
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