Re: [MBZ] Today's puzzler: W123 dead tach awakened by the horn

2014-07-27 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: The tach in my 1983 300TD is temperamental, and probably on its last legs. Half the time it's pegged at zero then it behaves erratically and eventually calms down and performs correctly. Sure sounds like the classic symptoms of poor connections on the tach amp socket. This is

Re: [MBZ] Today's puzzler: W123 dead tach awakened by the horn

2014-07-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com writes: Sure sounds like the classic symptoms of poor connections on the tach amp socket. This is a round cylinder thing (mini-silo) that lives on the port side inner fender. On an '85, the socket is there - but it's empty! Prior to '85 there

[MBZ] Today's puzzler: W123 dead tach awakened by the horn

2014-07-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The tach in my 1983 300TD is temperamental, and probably on its last legs. Half the time it's pegged at zero then it behaves erratically and eventually calms down and performs correctly. I've noticed that when it's restingin dead mode, a tap on the horn brings it back to life. What's that about?

Re: [MBZ] Today's puzzler: W123 dead tach awakened by the horn

2014-07-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Tach amp? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 26, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The tach in my 1983 300TD is temperamental, and probably on its last legs. Half the time it's pegged at zero then it behaves erratically and eventually calms down

Re: [MBZ] Today's puzzler: W123 dead tach awakened by the horn

2014-07-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com writes: The tach in my 1983 300TD is temperamental, and probably on its last legs. Half the time it's pegged at zero then it behaves erratically and eventually calms down and performs correctly. I've noticed that when it's restingin dead

[MBZ] Today's Puzzler part deux: Sooty smell penetrating the car - 1985 300TD

2012-03-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
This one really threw me for a loop. Once my 1985 300TD gets halfway warmed up, a sickly sweet soooty smell emanates through the vents - even with the ACC in the off position. At the tech session last Saturday, Ed (the tech I was working with) pointed out several possible sources: a dribble of

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler part deux: Sooty smell penetrating the car - 1985 300TD

2012-03-26 Thread Allan Streib
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: a dribble of green antifreeze I think the green explains the dribble Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Marshall doesn't seem to think it'll help so we'll see. I think I'll replace 'em

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread Curt Raymond
wrong... When I called Rusty (well Tom sold me the stuff to give proper credit) I thought to buy new glow plugs too. Those will go in when the cold breaks. -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:33:26 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On my 1983 300TD I can start it as Marshal and Mercedes advise, but it dies

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread Curt Raymond
Marshall doesn't seem to think it'll help so we'll see. I think I'll replace 'em anyway since I don't know when they were replaced previously... -Curt Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:01:55 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread Marshall Booth
Curt Raymond wrote: Marshall doesn't seem to think it'll help so we'll see. I think I'll replace 'em anyway since I don't know when they were replaced previously... Rarely helps if the plugs are glowing ABOUT the correct time (longer when cold). Nothing wrong with replacing older glow plugs,

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
I thought the dash light not extinguishing after a glow cycle meant a bad GP relay, and failure to light at all meant a burnt-out glow plug fuse. How does light diagnose a problem with the glow plugs themselves? On 2/20/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Marshall

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread Marshall Booth
andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought the dash light not extinguishing after a glow cycle meant a bad GP relay, and failure to light at all meant a burnt-out glow plug fuse. How does light diagnose a problem with the glow plugs themselves? The dash light is NOT a diagnostic, but only a warning

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I dont care, I just love the loop plugs for some reason. I guess the old fashionedness of them or something. Might be different if I HAD to depend on one to start regularly in the very cold winter mornings. As it is, I pretty much drive mostly 60x vehicles now and have not had to rely on an

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-17 Thread Redghost
I keep lusting after the engine in the 190D (w110) at the PnP. That thing is headed to the crusher on monday, but the engine is just too ... The loop back is metal line and injector lines and IP are sealed with some goop the makes it near impossible to remove the IP with ease or get those

[MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey
I continue to be dumbfounded that almost nobody follows Mercedes' recommendation that once you start cranking, KEEP cranking until the engine starts - DO NOT STOP CRANKING - DO NOT TRY A SECOND TIME I would modify this for an older knob-start machine, as they shut of GP current while cranking.

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread Loren Faeth
Correct. The OM621 200D owner's manual says crank for 30 seconds, then wait a minute or two, then glow and crank again. 30 seconds is a long time. If I get one firing on 1 cylinder, I will stay on it until the engine starts or the battery dies. At 09:18 PM 2/15/2007, you wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread R A Bennell
Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler I continue to be dumbfounded that almost nobody follows Mercedes' recommendation that once you start cranking, KEEP cranking until the engine starts - DO NOT STOP CRANKING - DO NOT TRY A SECOND TIME I would modify this for an older knob-start

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler I continue to be dumbfounded that almost nobody follows Mercedes' recommendation that once you start cranking, KEEP cranking until the engine starts - DO NOT STOP CRANKING - DO NOT TRY A SECOND TIME I would modify this for an older knob-start

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread degcoast
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler I continue to be dumbfounded that almost nobody follows Mercedes' recommendation that once you start

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Are you sure of that statement Jim? I think that my 76 300D would be like the knob pull 240 but it uses the key. I'm not sure, I sold our key-start 240D that had the relay under the dash. I do know, courtesy of the salt shaker, that our knob car does not continue to glow while cranking,

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread R A Bennell
into it closely. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 11:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler Are you sure of that statement Jim? I think that my 76 300D would be like

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler I continue to be dumbfounded that almost nobody follows Mercedes' recommendation that once you start cranking, KEEP cranking until the engine starts - DO NOT STOP CRANKING - DO NOT TRY A SECOND TIME I would modify this for an older knob-start

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread Marshall Booth
Jim Cathey wrote: I continue to be dumbfounded that almost nobody follows Mercedes' recommendation that once you start cranking, KEEP cranking until the engine starts - DO NOT STOP CRANKING - DO NOT TRY A SECOND TIME I would modify this for an older knob-start machine, as they shut of GP

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread Marshall Booth
andrew strasfogel wrote: On my 1983 300TD I can start it as Marshal and Mercedes advise, but it dies almost immediately unless I depress the fuel pedal enough to keep the tach at 750 rpm. Hope to change the glow plugs once we thaw out a bit to see if that solves the problem. Glow plugs will

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler Dwight

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-16 Thread LT Don
Glory Hallelujah and Amen. The conversion -- and just the plugs using the original relay -- has been money well spent w/ my '77 240D. My car with the change to pencil plugs starts in the winter like it started in the summer with loop plugs. On 2/16/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: