Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas? G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: One of my projects is working

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:30:37 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas? Message-ID: 20120427003037.f45023fa.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Randy Bennell wrote: If MB intended you

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Peter Hertzing
Well for several years mci and prevost (bus makers) and I'm sure big truck makers as well played with auto sticks where you just used a clutch to start then it was a direct drive automatic. Got a little better mileage. And didn't require shifting. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2012, at

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Randy Bennell
On 27/04/2012 12:30 AM, Fmiser wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: If MB intended you to do that, they wouldn't have bothered to put in a clutch pedal. Heh. The clutch pedal is for starting moving from a full stop. After that, it's just there to confuse the plebeians. --Philip With a good solid

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread G Mann
One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented a very ingenious IVT [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable of being developed for use in high load/high horsepower applications. Most interesting in using the IVT in long haul trucks would be the ability to set

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas
I wonder if a diesel/electric, like a locomotive, would be efficient? Would have to run the numbers, but that would be interesting -- max torque at 0mph, etc. --R On 4/27/12 1:02 PM, G Mann wrote: One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented a very ingenious IVT

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Max
G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented a very ingenious IVT [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable of Sounds very cool, I'd wondered when an IVT design would really take over market share. Please keep us posted as

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
its a new application and there are lots of issues to overcome in heavy trucks but the idea isn't new. -Curt Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:02:39 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas? Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread WILTON
My 3 Skidoo (Bombardier) snowmobiles ('71/'72)had CVT's. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas? CVT - Constantly (or continuously

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?( southern MO)

2012-04-26 Thread David Kristin Gilmore
At 10:32 PM 4/25/2012, Philip wrote: (snip) With very slight pressure against the synchros, it's possible to feel when the speed matches. At that point, a quick snink and it's in gear. Hey, you could drive down here to southern MO and help

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/04/2012 6:59 PM, Mountain Man wrote: -- Philip wrote: I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual transmission. -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Rick Knoble
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:57:35 -0500 From: rbenn...@bennell.ca Have to say, I fail to understand why one would need or want to do this? It is very good to know how to do this in the event of a catasrophic failure of the hydraulic system. Rick

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Fmiser
Philip wrote: I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual transmission. -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. On 25/04/2012 6:59 PM, Mountain Man wrote: I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder?

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread G Mann
If you become one with your machine... you will be able to float your gear changes... that is all... Some will feel the force and some will not. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Philip wrote: I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Randy Bennell
Yeah, I know - I had to do that with my old Suburban when the tranny was slowly going bad. Gently lift a bit on the 1-2 shift so it would do it nicely. I still see no reason one would waste time on nonsense like this unless there was something wrong with the car that compelled one to do so.

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-26 Thread Fmiser
Randy Bennell wrote: If MB intended you to do that, they wouldn't have bothered to put in a clutch pedal. Heh. The clutch pedal is for starting moving from a full stop. After that, it's just there to confuse the plebeians. --Philip ___

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good driver will be able to shift all gears, up and down, without using the clutch. Only possible in a non syncro box, well possible in a syncro box but you will have to be within a few engine revs. Hendrik who hasn't floated gears for

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Fmiser
Philip wrote: A good driver will float all the up-shifts. On 25/04/12 17:40, Max wrote: What does it mean to float an up-shift? Hendrik Fay wrote: Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good driver will be able to shift all gears, up and down, without using

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Max
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good driver will be able to shift all gears, up and down, without using the clutch. Thanks, that's what I thought. Have done that in extremis but never well enough to feel comfortable that I

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Max wrote: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Floating a gear means shifting without using a clutch, a good driver will be able to shift all gears, up and down, without using the clutch. Thanks, that's what I thought. Have done that in extremis but never well enough to feel

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Mountain Man
--   Philip wrote: I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual transmission. --   Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice challenge... if I can keep from wrecking

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread David Kristin Gilmore
At 07:59 PM 4/25/2012, mao wrote: -- Philip wrote: I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual transmission. -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Philip
Philip wrote: I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual transmission. -- Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs. Mountain Man wrote: I have 3 pedals in my 240D. Teach me? Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder? Sounds like a nice challenge... if I