Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-29 Thread LarryT
Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a/c questions Anthony, Strangely enough, after being refused the local Indies, I found an MB dealer who kept r-12 around- said

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-29 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] a/c questions Hey Dwight, Don't know if it's something happening at all MB

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-29 Thread tyler
That's very surprising... When I pull into the local MB dealer for parts driving an 80s MBZ, they treat me like I have some sort of disease they don't want to catch. Even if they have 20 employees on staff, they immediately peg me as the sort of guy that isn't about to buy a $100k car so it

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-29 Thread Mitch Haley
tyler wrote: That's very surprising... When I pull into the local MB dealer for parts driving an 80s MBZ, they treat me like I have some sort of disease they don't want to catch. Even if they have 20 employees on staff, they immediately peg me as the sort of guy that isn't about to buy a $100k

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-29 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] a/c questions That's very surprising... When I pull into the local MB dealer for parts driving an 80s MBZ, they treat me like I have some sort of disease they don't want to catch. Even if they have 20 employees on staff, they immediately peg me

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-29 Thread tyler
Subject: Re: [MBZ] a/c questions That's very surprising... When I pull into the local MB dealer for parts driving an 80s MBZ, they treat me like I have some sort of disease they don't want to catch. Even if they have 20 employees on staff, they immediately peg me as the sort of guy that isn't about

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-29 Thread Mitch Haley
tyler wrote: I'm in Riverside, CA. This same dealer who scorns and ignores me when I go in has been given numerous customer service awards by Mercedes Benz. They must not leave customer satisfaction cards lying around where just anybody can pick one up and mail it in. Can you download one

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-29 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Subject: Re: [MBZ] a/c questions tyler wrote: I'm in Riverside, CA. This same dealer who scorns and ignores me when I go in has been given numerous customer service awards by Mercedes Benz. They must not leave customer satisfaction cards lying around where just anybody can pick one up

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-23 Thread Loren Faeth
I'd go with freeze 12. Jim Cathey also has his test blend of propane and butane. At 08:27 PM 4/22/2009, you wrote: I am wondering if Freeze12 or Envirosafe (ES12a) are suitable replacements. Yes, though you may have to DIY. You'll need a gauge set, and a vacuum pump is ideal though you can

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-23 Thread Allan Streib
Technically that's iso-butane, right? Commonly available as camping gas, but I've hunted around for it locally and can't find it. On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:02 -0500, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: I'd go with freeze 12. Jim Cathey also has his test blend of propane and butane.

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Technically that's iso-butane, right? Commonly available as camping gas, but I've hunted around for it locally and can't find it. Yes. MSR and IsoPro are two names that come to mind. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-23 Thread Loren Faeth
If one could find ISOPro, what is the procedure for making the test mixture? what fittings are needed to get the ISOPro into the system? (or into the propane tank) Is it better to blend the propane and butane first in a propane tank, and then dispense as needed? At 09:34 AM 4/23/2009, you

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-23 Thread Jim Cathey
If one could find ISOPro, what is the procedure for making the test mixture? what fittings are needed to get the ISOPro into the system? I use either a side-tap arrangement, which is a standard R12 tap belted to the side, or a better one made from a fitting taken from an actual camp stove that

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Man the EPA gonna cap and trade you to oblivion if you keep doing that kind of thing. Next thing you know Algore will be confiscating your old MB and declaring it a global climate change catastrophe and putting your face all over his next movie about earthkillers. Or maybe load it on his jet

[MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-22 Thread Anthony Galioto
I have a 1983 240D which needs a a/c system check and charge. All the places I have gone to want to convert the system to r234a. I do not want to convert it to that gas because of the reports here that it isn't good for this age vehicle and in fact does not cool that well. I am wondering if

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Galioto Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] a/c questions I have a 1983 240D

Re: [MBZ] a/c questions

2009-04-22 Thread Jim Cathey
I am wondering if Freeze12 or Envirosafe (ES12a) are suitable replacements. Yes, though you may have to DIY. You'll need a gauge set, and a vacuum pump is ideal though you can flush the air out of a system by wasting half a can of juice just blowing it through. (Old-school R12 technique.) --