Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-28 Thread Peter Frederick
I've heard a number of stories about oil consumption being higher at the max mark, and in fact a friend of mine got a 300D cheap because of this --= the PO was convinced it had a terrible engine problem because it was using more than a quart/1000 miles -- he kept it topped up in spite of the

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-28 Thread Gabriel S.
my dipstick only has a low and high mark...i've seen nothing that says add. On 10/27/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: Marshall, Could you explain how over filling with oil is bad for the enigne (dont get me wrong, i believe it, i just don't see how it could

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-28 Thread Gerald R. Flintrop
That's not unusual, but it'll be covered in the good old owner's manual. Jerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabriel S. Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:33 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-28 Thread Marshall Booth
Gabriel S. wrote: my dipstick only has a low and high mark...i've seen nothing that says add. The bottom mark IS the ADD mark. On older diesel engines there is about 1 1/2 liters between the marks - starting in the mid '80s most of the sticks were revised to 2 liters between the two marks.

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread Marshall Booth
Peter Frederick wrote: Use Delvac 1 or Truck and SUV Mobil 1 -- the same thing, but Delvac comes in gallon containers. Mobil 1 Truck SUV is sold in 5 qt containers at SOME Wal-Marts for much less than Delvac in in one gallon jugs. You should have no issues at all, but I would get an extra

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread redghost
with no issues. For an MB diesel use the 5w40. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 247kmi, 40k or so on Mobil 1. Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:37:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread Gabriel S.
I think that synthetic oil making your car leak is an old wise tale that isn't so wise. On 10/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks.

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread Levi Smith
I've seen firsthand how synthetic can clean out crud in your system that was plugging a leak and you end up with a new leak. However, I've had plenty of other vehicles that DIDN'T start leaking. There's really no way of knowing if you have any plugged leaks that the synthetic will clean out for

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread l02turner
My experience when converting to Synthetic from Dino has been: existing leaks get *slightly* worse but no new leaks appear and after a while - 3000-1 miles - the existing leaks improve or leak slower and sometimes stop leaking completely. I've done this on a '74 Porsche 911, Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread Steve MacSween
Thanks, Dave. I guess it's just my memory shot, I *thought* I had used 10w30 in my old SD for the winters before it was switched to AMSOIL. Just FWIW (honestly not trying to start an AMSOIL vs. M-1 thread), AMSOIL claims one of ts 20w50 synthetic products as a year-round leave-in oil. I was

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks. There is something missing in the oil to swell the gaskets, or something like that. Not that I

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks. There is something missing in the oil to swell the gaskets, or something like that. Not that I don't swear by MOBIL 1,

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread Gabriel S.
Marshall, Could you explain how over filling with oil is bad for the enigne (dont get me wrong, i believe it, i just don't see how it could be bad)? On 10/27/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-27 Thread Marshall Booth
Gabriel S. wrote: Marshall, Could you explain how over filling with oil is bad for the enigne (dont get me wrong, i believe it, i just don't see how it could be bad)? There are MANY reasons why overfilling is bad. The MAX mark is just that - NOT the optimal level. 1: When overfilled,

[MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-26 Thread Lee Levitt
Are there any issues in converting a 175K miles 2.5L td motor to synthetic motor oil if it's been using dino in the past? Conventional wisdom used to be that you could not convert an older motor to synthetic...that the seals would leak. I don't know offhand whether the PO of my car used

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-26 Thread Gabriel S.
I started my car on synthetic at around the same mileage as yours and am now approaching 230K without any problems. The only thing I did notice is that for about 3 oil changed I noticed my car burning oil but now it seems to have leveled and I really don't even have to add oil during oil changes.

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-26 Thread Rory
You might get oil leaks and you might not, what happens is when you start using synthetics they have a great process for keeping things really clean. So if have leaks that have sealed with dino oil synthetics might clean out that crud start leaking. Not saying you can't do it, just beware it might

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-26 Thread Marshall Booth
Lee Levitt wrote: Are there any issues in converting a 175K miles 2.5L td motor to synthetic motor oil if it's been using dino in the past? Conventional wisdom used to be that you could not convert an older motor to synthetic...that the seals would leak. I don't know offhand whether the PO

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-26 Thread Levi Smith
I agree. I've seen Synthetic find leaks, depends on your interpretation as to whether it causes them or not. Basically, there was a leak there before that the regular oil didn't get through because there was crud blocking the leak. The synthetic comes along doing it's job and cleans out the crud.

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-26 Thread Curt Raymond
-0700 (PDT) From: Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Are there any issues in converting a 175K miles 2.5L td motor to synthetic motor oil if it's

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-26 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For an MB diesel use the 5w40. Why not 10w30 for winter? Mac

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-26 Thread Dave M.
to 5W-40 or 15W-50. YMMV, etc... -Dave M. -- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:17:41 -0400 From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For an MB diesel use the 5w40. Why not 10w30 for winter? Mac

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

2005-10-26 Thread Marshall Booth
Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For an MB diesel use the 5w40. Why not 10w30 for winter? M-1 10W-30 (and other M-1 xW-30 oils) doesn't meet the sheer specs and several other specs that Mercedes requires. See: http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html Marshall -- Marshall Booth