Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-08 Thread David Brodbeck
redghost wrote: What of all the shuttered refineries. They are just dormant superfund sites. I am sure that somebody will get the bright idea to fire them back up. Towards the end of when I lived in Alma, MI, Lamar-Diamond-Shamrock bought out the former Total oil refinery and dismantled

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron David Brodbeck wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: ULSD has almost NO sulfur

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-07 Thread l02turner
/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron Two more 50-100 million gallon per year refineries were announced

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-07 Thread redghost
What of all the shuttered refineries. They are just dormant superfund sites. I am sure that somebody will get the bright idea to fire them back up. Oh, wait, that would mean cutting into the profits, and might flood the market with fuel, thereby lowering profits per barrel On Thursday,

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-07 Thread redghost
But these plants are using synfuel coal. That allows for multiple tax breaks, such that the gummint covers 90% of the cost to produce On Thursday, April 6, 2006, at 07:34 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't I read on this list someone say Ethenol is a negative return?

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-07 Thread lee
- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron Two more 50-100 million gallon per year refineries were announced today, in the same small town. There are refineries

[MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread John M McIntosh
I was looking for something on octane and tripped over http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/diesel/ and of course the timeline for low sulfer diesel http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/diesel/ulsd.shtml John 1983 300TDt 362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread Christopher McCann
excellent links! thanks! Vehicles not specifically designed for use with S15 (ULSD) may use either S15 (ULSD) or S500 (500 ppm) diesel. So does this mean that we will actually be able to find S500 pumps around? That would be great. If not, will a constant use of a lubricity

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread Marshall Booth
Christopher McCann wrote: excellent links! thanks! Vehicles not specifically designed for use with S15 (ULSD) may use either S15 (ULSD) or S500 (500 ppm) diesel. So does this mean that we will actually be able to find S500 pumps around? That would be great. If not, will a constant

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread Christopher McCann
So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/confirmation. Is there ANYTHING we need to concern ourselves about regarding ULSD? Thanks!

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread John Berryman
On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/ confirmation. The parts of the pump

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread Marshall Booth
Christopher McCann wrote: So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/confirmation. Is there ANYTHING we need to concern ourselves about

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread Marshall Booth
John Berryman wrote: On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: So there is NO moving part in an IP that is lubricated with JUST fuel? engine oil lubricates everything? Cant't see how that could be...I'm probably wrong, but would like a little more info/ confirmation. The

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread Christopher McCann
Will dig up a diagram. FYI, the sulphur is not what lubricates. The process which removes the sulphur destroys the lubriciity. I've heard this before (from Stanadyne) and the Chevron website makes the same point. ADDING sulphur to ULSD will NOT help lubricty, so if some yahoo comes

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread Christopher McCann
ULSD has almost NO sulfur but better lubricity than than ANY #1 diesel and than MOST #2. Becuase a lubricity agent is added, I assume... Chris Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Berryman wrote: On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: So there is NO moving

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread John Berryman
On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: Correction: Sulfur lubricates NOTHING! When refining to remove sulfur from the fuel, often other fractions that are lubricants are also removed. Unless they are replaced (they often weren't when low sulfur diesel was first produced) the

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread David Brodbeck
Christopher McCann wrote: ULSD has almost NO sulfur but better lubricity than than ANY #1 diesel and than MOST #2. Becuase a lubricity agent is added, I assume... Yup. This turned out to be more difficult than expected. The original idea was that it would be added at the refinery.

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread Marshall Booth
David Brodbeck wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: ULSD has almost NO sulfur but better lubricity than than ANY #1 diesel and than MOST #2. Becuase a lubricity agent is added, I assume... I don't believe any lubricity additive is necessary (even for use with fuel lubricated distributor

Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron

2006-04-06 Thread l02turner
/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron David Brodbeck wrote: Christopher McCann wrote