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2015-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I had to replace the KLIMA relay in my 1985 300TD - is that the one located inconveniently behind the RF side kick panel? On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:44 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Donald wrote: > > > I have never had an 85. Isn't there some weird stuff about the > > 85 that is unique. > >

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2015-02-20 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Donald wrote: > I have never had an 85. Isn't there some weird stuff about the > 85 that is unique. Yeah, a few things. I wish none of mine were '85s. Don't like them. They have the KLIMA system that ties the tachometer and the AC compressor turning and other stuff into one egg basket. The

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2015-02-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> they want to reduce acceleration on a diesel? Is it because it has the >> turbo to help with acceleration and thus the trade off is mitigated? >> >> Don Snook >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mike Gildea [mailto:mikgi...@icloud.com] >> Sent:

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2015-02-20 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
y 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 Yes, the 85s are quicker off the line due to a high stall torque converter. Turbo engages almost immediately. It has a 2.88:1 rear end ratio for better fuel economy. It has a A/C cut out when floori

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2015-02-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
That's true of the turbos but not NA. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Jim Cathey via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 2:16 AM > To: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re

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2015-02-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Redline has been 5000 RPM from OM621 through OM603 (1958 to roughly 2000) Yellow line 4500 Unlike most gassers, the MB diesels can go all day at redline. That is typically how the 4 cylinders are driven. When I had a chovey, the redline was 4500. I don't know about current deetriot iron,

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2015-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
My understanding is that these diesels don't have the same revs==gas that most cars do. Perhaps they were after a quieter highway ride, not fuel economy? Would still need a higher stall speed TC to make up for the loss of off-the-line acceleration. But that would also make it less efficient und

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2015-02-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I have always had trouble understanding rear end ratios. Simple. a 4.11 rear end: the driveshaft turns 4.11 revolutions per one revolution of both axles. 3.50 rear end: the driveshaft turns 3.5 revolutions per one revolution of both axles. 3.00 rear end: the driveshaft turns 3.00 revoluti

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2015-02-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
, February 18, 2015 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 I have always had trouble understanding rear end ratios.  So, a lower number is a taller gear and you get better fuel mileage at the cost of acceleration, but you get higher top end speed?  Is that right?  Why would they want to

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2015-02-18 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
correlation was between valve adjustments and the timing chain, but it seems like there was something. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:02 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 Nice close up phot

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2015-02-18 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
help with acceleration and thus the trade off is mitigated? Don Snook -Original Message- From: Mike Gildea [mailto:mikgi...@icloud.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 Yes, the 85s are quicker

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2015-02-18 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
ng. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:02 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 Nice close up photos. The VIN doesn't look right, or is it just me? Dan > On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:58 PM,

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2015-02-18 Thread Alice Strickland via Mercedes
How 'bout those who write run-on sentences without punctuation? Wilt Sent from my iPad On Feb 17, 2015, at 11:32 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> Sorry, I forgot to include link: >> >> https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html > > Morons who don't know that a 300D is not a

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2015-02-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
123's don't have mechanical tachometers. The electronic tach amplifier is jacked into the diagnostic plug. On 85's they integrated it into something else. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsub

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2015-02-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Sorry, I forgot to include link: https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html Morons who don't know that a 300D is not a 300d irritate me. Maybe even more than the ones who call it a 300TD. You would think that if they have owned it and driven it, they'd have noticed the trunk says 30

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2015-02-17 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
From: fredh.s...@hotmail.com To: d...@snooklawllc.com Subject: RE: [MBZ] interesting 123 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 04:15:15 + Donald.The VIN is for a Honda. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:15:46 + > Subject:

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2015-02-17 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
ennell [mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:20 PM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 Don't you just love the ads that claim these cars are good for xxx,xxx,xxx miles? RB On 17/02/2015 5:15 PM, Donald Snook via M

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2015-02-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Sorry, I forgot to include link: https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123 This looks interesting. Not

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2015-02-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Snook via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Sorry, I forgot to include link: > >> > >> https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Donald Sn

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2015-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> From: Donald Snook [mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:57 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123 >> >> This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My >> prior 123

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2015-02-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html > > > -Original Message- > From: Donald Snook [mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:57 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123 > > This looks interesting. Not much in the

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2015-02-17 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Original Message- > From: Randy Bennell [mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:20 PM > To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 > > Don't you just love the ads that claim these cars are good for xxx,xxx,xx

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2015-02-17 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
esday, February 17, 2015 5:20 PM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 Don't you just love the ads that claim these cars are good for xxx,xxx,xxx miles? RB On 17/02/2015 5:15 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: > Sorry, I forgot to include li

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2015-02-17 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
o.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:18 PM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 I don't like the tacky chrome wheel arch moldings! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sorry, I

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2015-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123 This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My prior

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2015-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
lto:d...@snooklawllc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123 This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My prior 123 Diesels were 82 and 83. I have never had an 85. Isn't there some weird stuff about the

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2015-02-17 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
essage- > From: Donald Snook [mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:57 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123 > > This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My > prior 123 Diesels were 82 and 83.

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2015-02-17 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Sorry, I forgot to include link: https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123 This looks interesting. Not

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2015-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I believe the stall speed on the torque converter is higher on the 85, and there are some other details as well, but that's the biggie as I recall. Dan > On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures.

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2015-02-17 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123 Yes it is very interesting Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My > prior 123 Diesels were

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2015-02-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes it is very interesting Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My > prior 123 Diesels were 82 and 83. I have never had an 85. Isn't there some > weird stuff about

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2015-02-17 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My prior 123 Diesels were 82 and 83. I have never had an 85. Isn't there some weird stuff about the 85 that is unique. This one is here in Wichita, so I might look at it. Don Snook ___