Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-13 Thread OK Don
Ah yes - thin net (ethernet over coax cable) was bus topology. However, the Easy to troubleshoot if wiring problems arise. does not match my experience - any error anywhere on the bus would bring down the intire network. You had to go to each node to find the problem. Proper termination was

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-13 Thread Jim Cathey
Ah yes - thin net (ethernet over coax cable) was bus topology. However, the Easy to troubleshoot if wiring problems arise. does not match my experience - any error anywhere on the bus would bring down the entire network. You had to go to each node to find the problem. Proper termination was

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-13 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:06:14 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah yes - thin net (ethernet over coax cable) was bus topology. However, the Easy to troubleshoot if wiring problems arise. does not match my experience - any error anywhere on the bus would bring down the entire

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-13 Thread Jim Cathey
Ah, yes, 10-base2. We used it at HP in Colorado Springs in the late '80s. Our basement 'cluster' is _still_ wired with it. Goes to the troll under the stairs, the NeXT, some Unixey servers I had a hand in the design of, etc. And to the Mac 7500, the laser printer (LW Pro 630), and finally to

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 07:45 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:06:14 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah yes - thin net (ethernet over coax cable) was bus topology. However, the Easy to troubleshoot if wiring problems arise. does not match my experience -

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-13 Thread David Brodbeck
Jim Cathey wrote: The other huge source of problems was the wretched teflon-coated wire that was required for use in plenums (fire code). Rather than just run the few lengths of that pricey grey stuff where it was required and the regular black cable everywhere else, they ordered _only_ the

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-13 Thread David Brodbeck
Jim Cathey wrote: Ah yes - thin net (ethernet over coax cable) was bus topology. However, the Easy to troubleshoot if wiring problems arise. does not match my experience - any error anywhere on the bus would bring down the entire network. You had to go to each node to find the problem. Proper

[MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Stark
A question, if I may, from you computer geek types out there. Here is the issue...I just got my second TIVO, and as you folks may know, you can hook your TIVOs to your area local network and transfer movies from one TIVO to the other or to your computer. You can use either a wired network or a

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 08:34 PM, Barry Stark wrote: A question, if I may, from you computer geek types out there. Here is the issue...I just got my second TIVO, and as you folks may know, you can hook your TIVOs to your area local network and transfer movies from one TIVO to the

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
John Berryman wrote: Have you looked into Power Line networking. Does in-home PLN screw up ham radio like PL internet does?

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Trampas
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Stark Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB A question, if I may, from you computer geek types out there. Here is the issue...I just got my second TIVO, and as you folks may know, you

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey
The phone line is not a twisted pair and you would need 4 wires for Phone line has _always_ been twisted pair. But whether it is Cat. 5 or not is the question. Our house, wired in the 70's, certainly isn't, though it's run with the same three twisted pairs that you might get in a modern

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 08:02 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Does in-home PLN screw up ham radio like PL internet does? No idea. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Stark
John - Sounds interesting. I sent the following message with my special concerns to Netgear and a similar message to powerlines communications. It will be interesting to see how they respond. I would like to set up a wired network using your XE102 units between my PC and a couple of TIVO DVR

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 10:47 PM, Barry Stark wrote: John - Sounds interesting. I sent the following message with my special concerns to Netgear and a similar message to powerlines communications. It will be interesting to see how they respond. I would like to set up a wired

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Stark
Thanks folks for all your help on educating me and setting me straight. Well I'm pretty sure that the phone line solution is out. First of all I don't have enough conductors, and then the potential for damaging things is not worth the risk. I'll look a little more into the system that uses the

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/11/06, Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A question, if I may, from you computer geek types out there. Here is the Barry, I have a couple of caveats for you that I have not seen mentioned yet. Just something to think about, really. First, the idea of using the same cable your telephone

Re: [MBZ] local area network question - No MB

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey
currently to work in serial as most all homes work. The reason that when you receive a call all phones in your home ring is that they receive the current at the same time. It runs in a loop, kind of like an old string of christmas lights. Phones are not network devices. I don't know telco