Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-04 Thread Luther
Ok, so I drained and flushed all the Prestone and red crap out tonight then put in the citric acid and water and drove it again. It seemed to be running ok and like it had before, nothing higher than 95 on the interstate, so I decided to drive it a bit farther on the interstatethat was a

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-04 Thread Peter Frederick
The radiator shop will tell you to junk it -- it cannot be taken apart and put back together. Sorry. I've tried with a Volvo rad with a broken hose nipple. No dice, cannot be sealed back up. Peter

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
it can if they have the right equipment, very few shops do though. Peter Frederick wrote: The radiator shop will tell you to junk it -- it cannot be taken apart and put back together. Sorry. I've tried with a Volvo rad with a broken hose nipple. No dice, cannot be sealed back up. Peter

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-04 Thread Rick Knoble
it can if they have the right equipment, very few shops do though. I have a shop nearby in Lansing, Illinois that re-cored a BMW radiator for me. Amongst the stuff in the shop was an MG radiator that they had re-cored to a four row to set in front of a V8. That was a dozen or so years

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-04 Thread OK Don
Wow - I had that done back in 1969! MGA with a 215 CID Old's Al block V8. Amongst the stuff in the shop was an MG radiator that they had re-cored to a four row to set in front of a V8. That was a dozen or so years ago. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-04 Thread Peter Frederick
No, they cannot -- the aluminum will not crimp back down on the plastic tanks. BTDT, can never seal the leaks. Also, it's impossible to dissolve the clogging corrosion with anything that will leave the aluminum behind. New rad time. Peter

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-04 Thread Rick Knoble
No, they cannot -- the aluminum will not crimp back down on the plastic tanks. BTDT, can never seal the leaks. Ugh, I thought maybe the tanks were brass, like cars from back in the day. Seems I remember my radiator shop making up a real radiator for an S-10 or two. Them plastic/aluminum

[MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-03 Thread Luther Gulseth
Removed the monovalve insert tonight, it was clogged with the red-sandlike radiator/block/head sealer stuff from the PPO. So, I installed one I replaced in my SD (before I discovered that the coil was bad) and suddenly I have heat in the car. So, I took it on a drive tonight, about 5 miles on

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-03 Thread David Brodbeck
Luther Gulseth wrote: Removed the monovalve insert tonight, it was clogged with the red-sandlike radiator/block/head sealer stuff from the PPO. So, I installed one I replaced in my SD (before I discovered that the coil was bad) and suddenly I have heat in the car. So, I took it on a drive

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-31 Thread Luther Gulseth
Drove it for about 30 minutes tonight, most of the time the temp was right around 100, but toward the end I had to kick the heat on to cool it down from 110+. It is finally blowing heat from the vents and the bottom hose at the radiator is getting hot to the touch. Maybe the flush is working

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
Sorry about the incorrect time. I modified the T-stat by bending about 1/2 of the radiator flap up and creating a gap for constant flow. I ran it on just water to check for leaks at the t-stat and other hoses, then I dumped a bottle of Prestone flush in and drove it around the neighborhood in

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
Do you still have the silicone oil? I might take a shipment of that On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:36:58 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the radiator isn't hot enough to cause the clutch to engage. Lower hose is cool to the touch, top is HOT. I am also not getting very much heat in

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread OK Don
why do it the hard way? Take the radiator out, and let a radiator shop clean it and verify good flow. I suspect that your t-stat mod might be causing more problem than help, if it can't close the bypass port (don't know whether the bent part prevents that or not). On 10/29/06, Luther Gulseth

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
Not everyone has $'s like you :) I'm thinking of making an adapter so I can apply regulated air pressure to the radiator and blow the clogged stuff out. Our water here doesn't have very high pressure.something about being rural and on top of a hill. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:56:32

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Peter Frederick
How are you filling it? Are you pumping the upper rad hose and crimping the small line to the reservoir? If not, you only have about a gallon in a two gallon system and it's gonna run hot! To purge, squeeze the upper radiator hose flat, then crimp the small line to the reservoir, then let

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
I fill in the top radiator hose until it trickles out the radiator neck. I also have a Prestone flush tee installed where the block2heater core line is by the oil filter. I've run the car with the water hose attached there to flush the system before adding the flush. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread OK Don
Well, it did cost $55.00 to have the 107 radiator cleaned last time -- but that was small change compared to the rest of the engine rebuilding project, and cheap insurance. I have adopted the fill from the upper radiator hose process, and it has resulted in fewer troublesome bubbles to burp. I

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Luther, won't work. The crud clogging the rad is aluminum phosphate corrosion, most likely (unless you are really lucky and it's only carbonate and will clean out LONG soaking in citric acid). Aluminum phosphate deposits are pretty much impossible to remove when accessable, let along inside

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Do the hose shuffle to be sure. Peter

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
Crack the head? I'm fairly certain that's already done due to the vapor that is constantly flowing from an open pressure cap. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:48:14 -0600, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther, won't work. The crud clogging the rad is aluminum phosphate corrosion, most

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Serious underfilling will also give you steam, since the head isn't full yet -- a much better situation. Pressure cold is a better indication of cracks in the head. Peter

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
it's deffinately NOT steam, to light and wispy for steam. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:06:37 -0600, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serious underfilling will also give you steam, since the head isn't full yet -- a much better situation. Pressure cold is a better indication of cracks in

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Jim Cathey
Do you still have the silicone oil? I might take a shipment of that I parceled it all out, and only have the same amount left as I shipped to each customer. In other words, I still have my share, which is enough to fool with many clutches. Given my collection of aging beasts, I think

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Trampas
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL it's deffinately NOT steam, to light and wispy for steam. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:06:37 -0600, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:44:06 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you still have the silicone oil? I might take a shipment of that It's not hard to come by, but you have to buy a gallon of it and shipping just about doubles the price. So, where does one come by it? And for

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-30 Thread Jim Cathey
I bought 12,500 centistoke oil from thechemistrystore.com Closest they had to the 6-7k oil that is supposedly what you really need. Maybe. -- Jim

[MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-29 Thread Luther Gulseth
Yesterday and today I've worked on the SDL trying to figure out why it is overheating. Yesterday, I first checked to see if the fan clutch was engaging, it's not.well, the radiator isn't hot enough to cause the clutch to engage. Lower hose is cool to the touch, top is HOT. I am also not

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-29 Thread Jim Cathey
the radiator isn't hot enough to cause the clutch to engage. Lower hose is cool to the touch, top is HOT. I am also not getting very much heat in the Your radiator is clogged, perhaps also the heater core. First step would be to flush the system, then try an acid flush. But be prepared

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:19:48 -0600 Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could the cold bottom/hot top problem be a bad water pump and how would I check that? It's possible, though there's not much to go wrong with a water pump. You'll have to pull the pump to inspect the impeller. Given

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-10-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Yeah, gritty crud is the wood fiber type leak fixer. Usually fixes the engine, too by clogging. Flush out what you can, and run water backwards through the heater core and rad. The worst part of this is that the grit is coated with (or consists of) low MP plastic, the theory being that it