Any opinion on Pirelli Scorpion Winter?
Local indy tire shop carries this line. They are good guys so I'd prefer
to spend my money there vs. online or chain store if it's not a bad
choice.
Allan
Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes:
> I've had very good luck with just the cheapest tire store
Tires Plus, a national tire retailer, has a shop nearby that use on occasion.
They actually have a spreader bar for doing Mercedes alignments, to give you an
idea of their skill set. I also take advantage of their in house credit card,
as they’ll often give you 6 or 12 months same as cash.
I've had very good luck with just the cheapest tire store snow tires. My 240Ds
were the finest snow cars I've ever had when properly equipped. I suspect a 617
turbo car would be a little less drivable due to the extra power but should
still do well.
"All Season" tires can be okay, my 2015
I have been driving the $675ML500 (well, $700 now that I spent $25 on a
new ignition switch) a bit the last few days and I concur. It is bouncy
and twitchy on bumpy roads (like my driveway), very stiff suspension,
tall, short wheelbase. On smooth roads it is not bad but as soon as it
hits a
I would agree with your observations on the W163. Definitely more of a truck
than a car.
-D
> On Oct 13, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
> Interesting...have they been trying to sell it since Thanksgiving, or did
> they sell it, buy it back and list it at a higher
>The used car market is a real b*tch right now. Slim pickings everywhere.
Wait until after Thanksgiving. Between Thanksgiving and tax return season there
should be some deals to be found.
Rick
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?
Let me say
Let me say this very clearly- 4matic is worth it.
I can say more if any one wants.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 10:11 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Curley McLain via Mercedes writes:
>
> > Bull crap: "My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are
Curley McLain via Mercedes writes:
> Bull crap: "My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow."
> They were only incompetent in schnee because they had bad tires on. The
> 123 or 126 does not choose the tires it is on.
>
> As Jim says, tires and weight in the right places are key, as
> I've tried sandbags in the trunk. It helps, but only a little. I think
> the tires have been my downfall.
In all probability. I swear by Hakkapeliittaa studded snow tires, the
difference is truly amazing and they last forever. (I get 7-10 years
out of a set.)
-- Jim
Bull crap: "My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow."
They were only incompetent in schnee because they had bad tires on. The
123 or 126 does not choose the tires it is on.
As Jim says, tires and weight in the right places are key, as with any
vehicle.
My 123 went everywhere
I drove the 107, 115, 123, and 126 in the occasional ice and snow in OK,
with plenty of hills. Absolutely the worst place was our street and
driveway. I always managed, but it was close sometimes, and a few times I
had to leave one in the street because I couldn't get it up the drive.
Then I got
Jim Cathey writes:
>> My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow.
>
> My W115 was great in the snow. Proper snow tires, and maybe
> a little bit of trunk weight, are the keys. For the hills, you also need
> some brass balls sometimes. Momentum going up the hills is a
>
> My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow.
My W115 was great in the snow. Proper snow tires, and maybe
a little bit of trunk weight, are the keys. For the hills, you also need
some brass balls sometimes. Momentum going up the hills is a
requirement.
-- Jim
Good points, Allen, however, I know where you live and fortunately I won’t have
the challenges you do as far as hills.
Based on your experiences it sounds like 4Matic would be beneficial anyway.
Thanks!
-D
> On Oct 12, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> If you're
If you're talking about Indiana specifically, I can relate my
experiences.
My RWD diesels (W116 and W123) are useless in the snow. Especially with
the diesel torque they spin out very easily. Out in the county there are
some hills that have created predicaments for me more than once.
Same thing
04 would still be m112 but 3.7L. Still just as reliable.
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> On Oct 12, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Probably not that often, but if I’m going to find a car for there, I would
> prefer it to be equipped for the climate in case we’re up there in
Thanks, Mitch! Didn’t know that, just made the assumption since it’s badged as
an ML350.
I may check it out.
-D
> On Oct 12, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> On 2020-10-12 16:03, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Probably not that often, but if I’m going to find a
On 2020-10-12 16:03, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Probably not that often, but if I’m going to find a car for there, I
would prefer it to be equipped for the climate in case we’re up there
in the winter.
I’ve been looking at MLs around here, too. Almost nothing. There’s a
2004 ML350 I could
I love my 2005 E320 4matic. I have owned many 4WD & AWD over the years &
this is the best. I really don't meed it here but it also handles well in
the rain. Only problem i have had was bearing problem in transfer case.
Dealer fixed it for 300.00.
Has 184 k miles.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
Probably not that often, but if I’m going to find a car for there, I would
prefer it to be equipped for the climate in case we’re up there in the winter.
I’ve been looking at MLs around here, too. Almost nothing. There’s a 2004 ML350
I could get for a good price, but it’s got 140k on it,
How often will you be using it in the ice and snow? Maybe you should look at an
ML?
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> On Oct 12, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I’m curious to know from those who have experienced it - do you think the
> 4Matic is worthwhile in inclement weather
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