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2012-01-27 Thread WILTON
'Sounds like another ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:26:06 -0500 WILTON wilt

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2012-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell
:04 -0600 From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Message-ID:4f20772c.3060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 25/01/2012 12:54 PM, Curt

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2012-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: That, is pretty cool. I had never heard of such a thing. How does a pound of propane compare to a gallon of gasoline? Unless I go to Costco here, the price of propane is about $1.10 per pound. Getting expensive. It seems to be $16-25 for '20lb', which I believe has less

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2012-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Message-ID: 4f218efb.3070...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed That, is pretty cool. I had never heard of such a thing. How does a pound of propane compare to a gallon of gasoline? Unless I go

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2012-01-26 Thread Craig
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:05:19 -0500 Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: and then drive to Siloam Springs, AR, where I have an interview for a faculty position Wednesday. We will be driving close to Okie Acres, but won't have any time to stop.

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2012-01-26 Thread Craig
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:54:36 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Well crap if you are driving down 412 to Arkansas you will be within about 5 miles of okie acres Indeed. If we only would have had a little more time ... Craig ___

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2012-01-26 Thread WILTON
What perfume were you wearing? ;)) Oh, and how did the interview go? Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... On Mon, 23

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2012-01-26 Thread Craig
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:26:06 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh, and how did the interview go? It was a grueling day. Started at 0715 when I was picked up for breakfast and continued until 2030 when Shirley and I got back to the motel from dinner. At dinner, the head of the division

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2012-01-26 Thread Rich Thomas
I explained the fundamental theorem of calculus to my wife when she was forced to take some sort of math class for a pre-med training or something, and she actually understood it and thought it was pretty cool. I had a good teacher in HS explain it the same way, and it was so simple and

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2012-01-25 Thread G Mann
The last new Crude Oil refinery built in the USA was commissioned over 25 yrs ago. The EPA has made it impossible since then to build a new one and existing refineries have cut every possible capacity to shrink their exposure to the all mighty EPA to a minimum. In hard fact, the EPA induced costs

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2012-01-25 Thread Benz Hogs
There's a huge refinery south of Joliet (way south ChiBurb) and I'm willing to bet that it's not the northernmost refinery. That's a good suggestion. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (322,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 1/24/2012 10:07 PM, OK Don wrote: We ought to

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2012-01-25 Thread Dan Penoff
I suspect there are others over in the Gary/East Chicago area as well. At least based on the odors that come from there Once when we were driving through the area at night, my oldest son, who was maybe 4-5 years old at the time, watched the gas flares and all the related stuff as we drove

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2012-01-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
What I wanted to hear last night was Look, oil is expensive but natural gas is plentiful and the price is really now and projected to stay that way. Let's take steps (as T Boone Pickens suggests) to massivlely convert trucks from diesel to the use of natural gas. Maybe we could do something

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2012-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
What I wanted to hear last night was Look, oil is expensive but natural gas is plentiful and the price is really now and projected to stay that way. Let's take steps (as T Boone Pickens suggests) to massivlely convert trucks from diesel to the use of natural gas. Maybe we could do something

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2012-01-25 Thread Rick Knoble
Yes, there are BP is doing an expansion that is taking several years and several billion dollars. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 25, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I suspect there are others over in the Gary/East Chicago area as

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2012-01-25 Thread Rich Thomas
No real need to get goosed by the gummint (we are all getting goosed enough) -- if it makes economic sense (without artificial sense) it will be done. The problem is the network of CNG stations, that would have to be built out. But it probably would make best sense for fleet vehicles that

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2012-01-25 Thread Michael Canfield
Nothing that makes sense for the people will happen. Americans are too bullheaded to change. Gummit (I like that term.) is too greedy. Why use natural gas? The pipleliners I speak to around here(they are working in northern PA.) tell me there are huge reserves of oil under all of the gas. What

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2012-01-25 Thread Allan Streib
CITGO has a big one between Lockport and Lemont, a bit northeast of Joliet. Used to ride through it every day on the Metra line between Chicago and Joliet when I lived in Lockport. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 07:40 AM, Benz Hogs wrote: There's a huge refinery south of Joliet (way south ChiBurb)

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2012-01-25 Thread Allan Streib
Wonder why refineries flare off all that gas, could they not run a generator and produce some electricity with it? Allan On Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 09:06 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I suspect there are others over in the Gary/East Chicago area as well. At least based on the odors that come from

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2012-01-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 09:33 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: No real need to get goosed by the gummint (we are all getting goosed enough) -- if it makes economic sense (without artificial sense) it will be done. The problem is the network of CNG stations, that would have to be built out. But it

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2012-01-25 Thread rogerhga
Andrew, Or we could convert the natural gas to synthetic diesel, leave the trucks as they are and produce more diesel cars. Synthetic diesel has the same properties as natural gas without being as explosive. Personally, I don't want to pull in to a station to fill up my tank and have to worry

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2012-01-25 Thread Gerry Archer
From another list: The product coming out of Canadian tar sands is similar to Venezuelan oil Very thick and viscous, hard to extract without heat, hard to pump And most of all hard to refine Only a few refineries in the world can handle oil like this And they're all in Houston. Gerry

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2012-01-25 Thread E M
We're currently working on a process to cut it with maple syrup. ;-) Ed 300E On 25 January 2012 11:24, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: From another list: The product coming out of Canadian tar sands is similar to Venezuelan oil Very thick and viscous, hard to extract without

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2012-01-25 Thread Randy Bennell
Not certain where it was refined, probably Alberta, but for a while, fuel was being hauled in large quantities to Grand Forks AFB in North Dakota from Winnipeg. Then loaded on tankers and flown to Iraq or Afghanistan. Now that, is just plain silly. Randy On 25/01/2012 6:11 AM, G Mann wrote:

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2012-01-25 Thread Randy Bennell
I am going to go ahead and risk responding before reading the rest of the posts so I might be behind on this one. My understanding is that NG is not that easy to use on road vehicles. There was a recent thread on a boating forum I read where a fellow talked about trying to convert a boat to

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2012-01-25 Thread E M
I don't know much about it either, but I do know you don't get much range with a tank of NG, hence why there were used mostly in the city. That's one reason they were used for city vehicles and taxis. They say it burns very clean though, and when they were overhauling engines, noticed a big

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2012-01-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
I would be OK with turning the NG into diesel. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I am going to go ahead and risk responding before reading the rest of the posts so I might be behind on this one. My understanding is that NG is not that easy to use on

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2012-01-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/01/2012 11:16 AM, E M wrote: I don't know much about it either, but I do know you don't get much range with a tank of NG, hence why there were used mostly in the city. That's one reason they were used for city vehicles and taxis. They say it burns very clean though, and when they were

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2012-01-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/01/2012 11:17 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I would be OK with turning the NG into diesel. I would think we need to know what that involves. Is it something that is readily doable and makes sense? Or is it like the growing of corn to make fuel? Most don't think that is a feasible thing

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2012-01-25 Thread E M
You're right Randy, propane. I know as the same filling station I used to fill up the propane tanks for the BBQ, also had a lineup of taxis waiting to fill up. The older style cabs are pretty much all gone now, replaced with smaller vehicles. I think for the most part, they've just gone back to

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2012-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Jan 2012 09:33:55 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Message-ID: 4f2012d3.5010...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format

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2012-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
fairly powerful don't you? I'd take 260hp if it meant the fuel was cheaper. -Curt Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:25:05 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Message-ID

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2012-01-25 Thread rogerhga
Randy, The last I read on this a couple of years ago was that the Germans developed synthetic diesel from natural gas during WWII because they obviously had trouble getting regular diesel. Then a few years ago, one of the universities on the left coast reported to have reduced the process to 4

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2012-01-25 Thread Randy Bennell
Here in Winnipeg, almost all cabs are Toyota Prius now, except for the mini-vans. Good test for a Prius I assume. They are putting lots of miles on them through all sorts of weather. Randy On 25/01/2012 12:07 PM, E M wrote: You're right Randy, propane. I know as the same filling station I

Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ...

2012-01-25 Thread Randy Bennell
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Message-ID:4f2012d3.5010...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed No real need to get goosed by the gummint (we are all getting goosed enough

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2012-01-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Message-ID:4f2012d3.5010...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed No real need to get goosed by the gummint (we are all getting goosed enough

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2012-01-25 Thread Rich Thomas
I heard on the radio the other day that current proven reserves in the US for oil (not including gas) exceed Saudi Arabia and a bunch of the other ME reserves thrown in. I sometimes wonder if it is better to use up their oil (ignoring the political aspects) and save domestic stuff for later.

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2012-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Most engines will go a long time if you start them up and leave them on all day... -Curt Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:07:26 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Message-ID

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2012-01-25 Thread Michael Canfield
That is what they claim to be up to. Seems way too costly for some oil. But then think about the idea of the USA having control of the world oil market when the rest of the world's oil is used up. Mike On Jan 25, 2012 3:32 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I heard on

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2012-01-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/01/2012 12:54 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: The best thing ever to happen to combustion engine powered weed whacker is running on Propane. Most small engines that are infrequently used will have old gummed up fuel in them, running from a 1# propane bottle eliminates that problem. Still I

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2012-01-25 Thread Max
Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: So is there a propane powered weed whacker or is this something you created? Wilton could re-power his chair/walker with my dead four-stroke and convert to propane! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___

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2012-01-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 25/01/2012 3:55 PM, Max wrote: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: So is there a propane powered weed whacker or is this something you created? Wilton could re-power his chair/walker with my dead four-stroke and convert to propane! No, he needs a diesel. Randy

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2012-01-25 Thread E M
What he really wants is a flat six. ;-) Ed 300E On 25 January 2012 17:00, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 25/01/2012 3:55 PM, Max wrote: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: So is there a propane powered weed whacker or is this something you created? Wilton could

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2012-01-25 Thread E M
2012 13:07:26 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Message-ID: canth8rvax52zundpuh_1wdmd-fmmrvn7d0uamiwmtv+arvf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859

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2012-01-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 25, 2012 2:17 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I think most machines prefer constant use, to being cycled. Generator Dan can probably speak with authority as to the relative longevity and reliability of the same engine operated under different conditions of load, RPM, and engine

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2012-01-25 Thread WILTON
Yeah, that'd work, too. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... What he really wants is a flat

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2012-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
I suspect you mean they ran on propane. We had that for a long while here to. Most of the cabs were running propane for a few years as it was a lot cheaper than gasoline and they were running big old GM and Ford products for the most part. Propane is essentially a liquid. NG has to be

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2012-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
I would think we need to know what that [converting NG into gasoline] involves. Is it something that is readily doable and makes sense? Randy Not much different that what is currently done in refineries now. Heavy crude is cracked breaking long chain hydrocarbons into hydrocarbons of the

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2012-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
I hear the network of CNG stations argument and it doesn't make much sense to me. Why can't a CNG pump (or pump equivalent) be added to the existing network of stations, or some of the existing network of stations? I've seen this at a few stations in greater LA already... -Curt uh! a

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2012-01-25 Thread clay monroe
I vote for Nebraska as the new home of a refining hub. This will allow for new equipment that is less likely to blow up so much, and if it is close enough to the Missouri river, we can send barges south. clay On Jan 24, 2012, at 8:07 PM, OK Don wrote: We ought to build a refinery or two up

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2012-01-25 Thread clay monroe
Do a Google Search for bureau of sabotage Frank Herbert knew something clay On Jan 25, 2012, at 6:33 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: No real need to get goosed by the gummint (we are all getting goosed enough) -- if it makes economic sense (without artificial sense) it will be done. The problem

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2012-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
I am going to go ahead and risk responding before reading the rest of the posts so I might be behind on this one. My understanding is that NG is not that easy to use on road vehicles. There was a recent thread on a boating forum I read where a fellow talked about trying to convert a boat to

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2012-01-25 Thread Max
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Do a Google Search for bureau of sabotage Frank Herbert knew something Those are some of my favorite stories! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

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2012-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
. -Curt Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:42:04 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Message-ID: 4f20772c.3060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format

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2012-01-25 Thread Fmiser
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 09:33 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: No real need to get goosed by the gummint (we are all getting goosed enough) -- if it makes economic sense (without artificial sense) it will be done. The problem is the network of CNG stations, that would have to be built out.

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2012-01-25 Thread Dieselhead
Most engines will go a long time if you start them up and leave them on all day... -Curt Right, but in the same service (identical start and stop) a propane (or CNG) engine will last far longer than the same engine run on gasoline. The City of Hoover, AL vehicles run on homemade(city

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2012-01-24 Thread Hans Neureiter
Ron Paul Warren Buffet would be the ticket. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: --R wrote: That War for Oil is paying its dividends! They are pre-pricing the new Iran war that the neo-con crewe all want to precipitate armageddon. Idiots. Take the

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2012-01-24 Thread E M
No need to go to war to try to secure hotspots to get oil. We figure we have enough for both of us for the next 200-300 years, at current and future use. You don't have to be too innovative either, just run a hose up north, and we'll give you all you want, and cheap too. We already offered

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2012-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Is this a preview of tonight's political theater? --R On 1/24/12 2:57 PM, E M wrote: No need to go to war to try to secure hotspots to get oil. We figure we have enough for both of us for the next 200-300 years, at current and future use. You don't have to be too innovative either, just run

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2012-01-24 Thread E M
Just saying, there's lots here if you want it. Ed 300E On 24 January 2012 16:01, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote: Is this a preview of tonight's political theater? --R On 1/24/12 2:57 PM, E M wrote: No need to go to war to try to secure hotspots to get oil. We

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2012-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell
Yes, either you folks south of us buy it or we will have to tunnel through the Rockies under the natives, to the west coast and ship it to China. One way or tother, it is going to be dug up and moved on. Randy On 24/01/2012 3:17 PM, E M wrote: Just saying, there's lots here if you want it.

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2012-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
May I have permission to post this on my Facebook page? This will probably go viral... Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:57 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: No need to go to war to try to secure hotspots to get oil. We figure we have

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2012-01-24 Thread E M
Sure. To give credit where credit is due, that last bit about us most likely spending any revenue generated, to buy U.S. products, was taken from something a U.S senator said (sorry, forgot his name). He was right though. While most of the stuff we now purchase has a Made in China label on it,

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2012-01-24 Thread Dieselhead
No need to go to war to try to secure hotspots to get oil. We figure we have enough for both of us for the next 200-300 years, at current and future use. You don't have to be too innovative either, just run a hose up north, and we'll give you all you want, and cheap too. We already offered

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2012-01-24 Thread OK Don
We ought to build a refinery or two up north, closer to the source, rther than piping it all the way across a continent, then bck up for distribution. Less interuption form hurricanes in the north as well. More jobs building and operating a refinery than the one time build of a pipe line. Won't

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2012-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
Actually, I think the idea is to refine crude in the Gulf Coast for shipment overseas. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 24, 2012, at 10:07 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: We ought to build a refinery or two up north, closer to the source, rther than

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2012-01-24 Thread OK Don
You're probably right - last I read, we ship 40% of the Diesel we produce overseas, could increase that if we had more to ship. Doesn't help energy independence, does it. I did hear today that we're importing a lower percentage of foreign oil now than years before, but don't remember the numbers.

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2012-01-23 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote: We are going to be taking off soon to drive to Albuquerque and then fly to Tulsa and then drive to Siloam Springs, AR, where I have an interview for a faculty position Wednesday. Is that John Brown U? A friend's son went there not too long ago. mao

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2012-01-23 Thread Allan Streib
Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: I was astounded. Another fellow behind the counter said he uses the same oil and that it has gone up astronomically. $10.22 per quart is the sale price! Yeah it used to be the case that you could justify the extra cost by the longer change interval, it

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2012-01-23 Thread Benz Hogs
Interview at JBU? Good luck! Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (322,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 1/23/2012 4:25 PM, Craig wrote: I just got back from NAPA where I bought 5 quarts Mobil1 0W-40 to complete the oil change on the '95 E320. I put the 5 jugs on the counter,

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2012-01-23 Thread Dan Penoff
I just bought a five quart jug of 15W-50 at Wally World on Sunday and it was almost $28.00. A quart was nearly $7.00. Ouch. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I just got back from NAPA where I bought 5 quarts Mobil1 0W-40 to complete

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2012-01-23 Thread Rich Thomas
That War for Oil is paying its dividends! BTW what was the price of gas 3 yr ago? --R On 1/23/12 5:25 PM, Craig wrote: I just got back from NAPA where I bought 5 quarts Mobil1 0W-40 to complete the oil change on the '95 E320. I put the 5 jugs on the counter, the guy rung it up, and said,

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2012-01-23 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote: That War for Oil is paying its dividends! They are pre-pricing the new Iran war that the neo-con crewe all want to precipitate armageddon. Idiots. Take the Ron Paul approach and stop goading countries around the globe. We can innovate out of our oil dependence - America has been

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2012-01-23 Thread E M
It would still be considered on sale, in Canada. ;-) Oh wait, we don't put things like that on sale in Canada, we just throw the odd free filter in with the deal. Ed 300E On 23 January 2012 17:45, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I just bought a five quart jug of 15W-50 at Wally World on

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2012-01-23 Thread Craig
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:35:20 -0600 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: We are going to be taking off soon to drive to Albuquerque and then fly to Tulsa and then drive to Siloam Springs, AR, where I have an interview for a faculty position Wednesday. Is that John Brown

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2012-01-23 Thread Craig
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:38:14 -0600 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Interview at JBU? Good luck! Thank you! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

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2012-01-23 Thread Randy Bennell
My local Cdn Tire advertises it on sale - but then does not have any in stock when I go to get it. I have been bringing mine in from North Dakota. Good thing I don't live too far north of the border. Randy On 23/01/2012 5:04 PM, E M wrote: It would still be considered on sale, in Canada. ;-)

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2012-01-23 Thread WILTON
Contraband? ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... My local Cdn Tire advertises

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2012-01-23 Thread E M
Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... My local Cdn Tire advertises it on sale - but then does not have any in stock

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2012-01-23 Thread Max
Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: and then drive to Siloam Springs, AR, where I have an interview for a faculty position Wednesday. We will be driving close to Okie Acres, but won't have any time to stop. Knock'em dead! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ...

2012-01-23 Thread E M
I find the price of oil, along with pretty much everything else at my local CT has really gone up over the last couple of years. I now buy 90% of my stuff from indy parts stores, or order from the U.S., pay the shipping, duty, tax, and it usually still comes out a lot cheaper than buying locally.

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2012-01-23 Thread WILTON
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Shhh. You know the deal.you don't mention the mobile 1 we sneak across the border, and we won't mention the Cuban cigars you take home from your visits

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2012-01-23 Thread WILTON
Oh, I forgot hotel bills, ski lift and train tickets. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... 'Never had

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2012-01-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well crap if you are driving down 412 to Arkansas you will be within about 5 miles of okie acres Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I just got back from NAPA where I bought 5 quarts Mobil1 0W-40 to complete the oil change on the '95 E320. I

Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ...

2012-01-23 Thread E M
- Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Shhh. You know the deal.you don't mention the mobile 1 we sneak across

Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ...

2012-01-23 Thread E M
- From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Shhh. You know the deal.you don't mention the mobile 1 we sneak across the border, and we won't

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2012-01-23 Thread Allan Streib
E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: Shipping costs are crazy here too! I got a box from Rusty once. Arrived in about 3 days, and cost me something like $10 in shipping. Amazing deal!! last time I sent a few magazines to the U.S., it was something close to $15! When shipping to Canada, I've

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2012-01-23 Thread E M
Canada Post are happy to collect the taxes too. Remind me what all this free trade was about? I guess free, ain't so free after all. ;-) What hurts the most, is sending something out from Canada. If I send a small book, or a couple of chocolate bars (surface) overseas, I usually pay equal to,

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2012-01-23 Thread WILTON
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... Ah, Zebart, though in true Canadian fashion, we should probably call it Zedbart. hee hee. I had it applied every couple of years to my first car, which was a '75

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2012-01-23 Thread WILTON
Coupla months ago, UPS reamed # 1 grandson in France on shipment of a leather jacket. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were

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2012-01-23 Thread WILTON
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And here we were complaining about fuel prices ... BTW, I had a '64 Dodge van and a '74 Plymouth/Dodge van both made in Windsor, ON. Until several years ago, we often had CN dimes mixed