Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes, that is what he means, using the Eurocentric designation (orient rising sun east, that sort of

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
Thanks Clay. I was pretty happy to dodge that one too. That is the second time I have had a similar near miss with the car. I think perhaps its low power is what saved me in the sense that the other driver took off quicker than I did and was ahead of me rather than beside me. Given the size of

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
last i heard, asian is PC but oriental is not, but the rules change all the time. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax. I am at a loss here. Is

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
Message - From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers So I was talking to my (then much younger and very PC) daughter and committed the unpardonable sin

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers Message-ID:     1378828447.85875.yahoomail...@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
Are russians asians? There is a lot of that country stuck on asia. And the people on the steppes? Asian? The Indian indians do not like being called asians. Must be the mountain range separates them from china makes them non asian. Are we needing to drill down fully so that we cover all

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
10, 2013 2:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers Ot On Sep 10, 2013 4:41 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: A parent of one of my son's friends is from Dutch Guiana. She refers to people by the color of their skin. When I asked her about this, she said

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
10, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers But they are not a carpet. That is racist to say a middle eastern rug is oriental. If the thing is made in china, it can be oriental. clay On Sep 10, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Neither is particularly descriptive in a useful way

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers last i heard, asian is PC but oriental is not, but the rules change all the time. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
And BTW, my Asian ex spouse never caused an accident and was a very capable driver, despite having been chauffered around as a child of an upper class family in Burma before learning to drive on her own. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I wasn't

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Richard Hattaway
I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax. I am at a loss here.  Is the term Oriental or Asian not politically correct any more? In my redneck area of the world, the two are the same, and neither is considered offensive or racist. Do I

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Rich Thomas
There you go. Hope for everyone! I'm thinking that riding in a car in Burma would be roughly equivalent to driving around Boston from the age of 2 as far as experience with the whole car deal goes. If you don't like how I drive, stay off the damn sidewalk! --R On 9/10/13 11:34 AM,

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers So I was talking to my (then much younger and very PC) daughter and committed the unpardonable sin of saying that I bought some groceries at the Oriental Grocery

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Do you mean Asians? On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:39 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not impressed with the driving ability of orientals. I am pretty sure the ones across the street are PLA spies. Been there two years and seem to get new high end cars every six months or so. First it

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers last i heard, asian is PC but oriental is not, but the rules change all the time. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: I wasn't passing

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
of fact, not meant as anything denigrating? - Original Message - From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers So I was talking to my (then much younger

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
, its been a good summer. Anyway, last I heard it Orientals are carpets. -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers Message-ID: 1378828447.85875

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
: [MBZ] Bad Drivers last i heard, asian is PC but oriental is not, but the rules change all the time. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread WILTON
'Forgot to sign it - yes, 'tis I, 'tis I, 'tis I. WILTON - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers What happened to the terms for different races

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Dan Penoff
:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers Message-ID: 1378828447.85875.yahoomail...@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I wasn't passing

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
So if this works like other minorities then if you are Oriental or Asian you can refer to your peers as Chinks and still be politically correct? Mike Who hopes someone besides me gets the humor... On Sep 10, 2013 12:31 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: last i heard, asian is PC

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
i lived in a county with 100,000 asians and it was indicated to me that oriental was not the preferred nomenclature, to quote a great sage of our times. but i personally don't care as i don't get involved in these sorts of PC things. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Oriental is fine. It means Korean or Japanese. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: last i heard, asian is PC but oriental is not, but the rules change all the time. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread clay
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers Message-ID: 1378828447.85875.yahoomail...@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax. I am at a loss here

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
my daughter informed me with great delight that her bad teacher ended a dispute between 2 students by screaming niggers ain't bad in band at them. while i personally find this incredibly charming and have great respect for his taking command of the situation, i cannot help but lament the double

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
I guess I could have described the driver differently. I might have used oriental or ??? but I was trying to be somewhat conservative and not appear to be too red necked. The fellow may have been Korean, Phillipino, etc. Hard to tell since I am A) not an expert on that sort of thing, and B)

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
asian is a particularly bad way to say it as it excludes most of asia from its designation. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I wasn't passing judgment on his racism, or lack thereof, but merely the precision of his syntax. On Tue, Sep 10,

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
, its been a good summer. Anyway, last I heard it Orientals are carpets. -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Scott Ritchey
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Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Rich Thomas
I worked with a guy named Billy Goon who was Chinese. One day we were talking and he says he plays poker with a bunch of other chinamen. At that time, that term was derogatory from what I understood, so I say whoa you can't be saying that. He asks what I mean, I say you can't say chinamen

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Scott Ritchey
In 1984 George Orwell dubbed it Newspeak (mind control through language). -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers You got

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-10 Thread Rich Thomas
Yes, that is what he means, using the Eurocentric designation (orient rising sun east, that sort of thing, coming from the Age of Exploration and Empires and all that, along with a command of the Latin language and the associated etymology). But he is correct. A good friend of mine

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
There are a lot of idiots who do not know how to manage those sorts of turns Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I just about had the old 300D wiped out yesterday. My younger son and I were on our way to a big car show that is sponsored

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-09 Thread Gary Hurst
my experience with insurance is sometimes they pay you too much but often too little. better to just avoid crashing! you have to drive defensively or you will get wrecked. there are few incentives in place to correct the behavior of bad, ignorant, indifferent or negligent drivers. go 25 over

Re: [MBZ] Bad Drivers

2013-09-09 Thread clay
I am not impressed with the driving ability of orientals. I am pretty sure the ones across the street are PLA spies. Been there two years and seem to get new high end cars every six months or so. First it was VW, then they moved to Benz, now it is BMW. I had a good snicker this past weekend