Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Larry T
speaking of Africa - I always thought it odd that the African continent has natural resources that rival N America yet they squander any opportunity by killing each other in border disputes, civil war, religious disputes, etc. I can't understand why anyone would be proud to call themselves

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Tim C
On Jan 8, 2013 6:44 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: yet they squander any opportunity by killing each other in border disputes, civil war, religious disputes, etc. I can't understand Sounds a lot like Germany before Bismarck. My ancestors left Germany 100 years prior. Glad the place

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Tim C
Sent too soon.. On Jan 8, 2013 7:48 AM, bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 8, 2013 6:44 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: yet they squander any opportunity by killing each other in border disputes, civil war, religious disputes, etc. I can't understand Sounds a lot like Germany before

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff
I can top that: New Guinea When I traveled that part of the world we were absolutely banned from going to or transiting through New Guinea. The Aussie I traveled with in those parts was adamant that as an Anglo the risks inherent in going there far outweighed any potential gain. A lot like

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I hear that you might have been the guest of honor at a big feast in that place. -R On 1/8/13 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I can top that: New Guinea When I traveled that part of the world we were absolutely banned from going to or transiting through New Guinea. The Aussie I traveled with

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff
No doubt. Maybe our resident Aussie can elaborate on the wonderful aspects of that neighbouring country... Dan On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I hear that you might have been the guest of honor at a big feast in that place. -R On

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Benz Hogs
When he applies from the local address, tell him to setup a local (NY/NJ) Google Voice number. voice.google.com If he has a smartphone, the calls and texts will be routed to his cell. Also, calling out gives you the option to call with/without the G.voice number. Luther KB5QHUForest

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Dan Penoff
Excellent suggestion, Luther! Thanks! Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: When he applies from the local address, tell him to setup a local (NY/NJ) Google Voice number. voice.google.com If he has a smartphone, the calls and texts

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread G Mann
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: speaking of Africa - I always thought it odd that the African continent has natural resources that rival N America yet they squander any opportunity by killing each other in border disputes, civil war, religious disputes,

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Mountain Man
Tim wrote: He was a good sport about it, but privately it frustrated him that so many otherwise-educated Americans had Curious - do we have any African-American readers at OkieBenz? Or, do we have any woman readers here? Any euro readers? South American readers? mao - not a chinaman, although

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Craig
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:46:01 -0600 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Curious - do we have any African-American readers at OkieBenz? Or, do we have any woman readers here? Any euro readers? South American readers? mao - not a chinaman, although my dad spoke fluent mandarin... We used

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I know of at least one African American participant but there may be others, as there are several noms de plumes in use. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Tim wrote: He was a good sport about it, but privately it frustrated him that so many

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Fmiser
Tim wrote: He was a good sport about it, but privately it frustrated him that so many otherwise-educated Americans had Mountain Man wrote: Curious - do we have any African-American readers at OkieBenz? Or, do we have any woman readers here? Any euro readers? South American readers?

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-08 Thread Rich Thomas
We all came from Africa !!! --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I know of at least one African American participant but there may be others, as there are several noms de plumes in use. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Mountain

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-06 Thread Curt Raymond
managers are just high school graduates. -Curt Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 20:35:40 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT Message-ID: ae65324d-120f-43b5-a7ab-c3d31e401...@comcast.net

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-06 Thread OK Don
I hear that the Chinese are puttin major effort into building infrastructure and good will in Africe - they see it as the next source of cheap labor, when their standard of living rises to an acceptable level. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They need

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-06 Thread G Mann
Take a job in India, gain experience and stay the hell out of Africa.. no matter what. Been there on several projects myself. DO NOT recommend anyone go there. Rich in resources.. and absolutely the most stupid people and governments on the face of the earth.. not to mention the raw exposure to

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Craig
On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:53:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Thought I would toss this out to the list for what it's worth: A bunch, as it turns out. I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Dan Penoff
On Jan 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Craig wrote: I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern).

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 5, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Dan Penoff
I sort of thought the same thing, but it's all water under the bridge for him at this point., For that matter, I didn't realize the Embry-Riddle had a civil engineering degree program - I thought it was all aeronautical stuff. Dan On Jan 5, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Civil

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread WILTON
I'm surprised, too, by CE at Embry-Riddle. Obviously, they musta branched out. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Brian Toscano
Wouldn't it have made more sense to get a job before the grad degree? With no job experience he is competing against those that may have decades of experience. Its often easier to get a job if you already live where you expect to work or would like to get a job, unless the prospective employer

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Max Dillon
North Dakota and west from there, lots of jobs due to the energy boom. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:53:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Thought I would toss this out to the list for what

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 5, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it have made more sense to get a job before the grad degree? Kicking the can, I presume. As long as you are attending school, the student loans payments are deferred. In the sixties and early seventies people

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread OK Don
The schools also push a masters degree in engineering - telling the students that they will have a leg up when they hit the job market - On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 5, 2013, at 6:39 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The schools also push a masters degree in engineering - telling the students that they will have a leg up when they hit the job market - The schools are run by accountants, I guess. Higher education is big business. It is the only

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread OK Don
The schools are pushing students to stay in school so they have jobs. The grad students usually don't pay tuition or take out loans - they they are assistants, do the research for the profs to write up and get credit for, etc. None of my kids paid a cent for the their masters degrees (three of

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Russ Williams
Dan, Have him check out The Shaw Group.. A quick check on their web site shows some Civil Engineer jobs. There's even one in Boca Raton, Fla. http://www.shawgrp.com/careers Russ On 1/5/2013 14:53, Dan Penoff wrote: Thought I would toss this out to the list for what it's worth: I have a good

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 5, 2013, at 7:00 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I think your advise is good - will he take it? Yep. Oldest kid thinks dad is old and dumb. Youngest kid thinks dad might still have a functioning brain cell or three. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Mountain Man
Rick wrote: Civil engineering seems to be a dying field at present. For sure. I stopped looking when I was laid off. What firm did your girlfriend work at? Chicago news yesterday said Clayco (claycorp.com) is moving from St. Louis to Chicago and will be doubling their staff and looking for

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 5, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: For sure. I stopped looking when I was laid off. What firm did your girlfriend work at? AECOM. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread G Mann
FWIW, I have an online friend of several years in India. He advises me there is a shortage of engineers in India and they are now hiring. Such a posting would be, perhaps, a major magnitude move for a young man, however, a job is a job in today s market. Perhaps worthy of a look on his part. I

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread clay monroe
North Dakota maybe. Not much spare change for civil engineering projects in the Northwest. Washington will process the dang things to death, deplete any funding for actually building it, and then say they never really wanted it anyway. Western Montana was rebuilding the bridges on I-90 from

Re: [MBZ] Civil Engineer Looking for Work - OT

2013-01-05 Thread clay monroe
They need all the civil engineers they can get to pull India out of the third world and into the first and a half. Take the job there, get some projects under his belt and move to Africa to spiff that place up. By then he will be senior engineer stock and can return to Amerika to rebuild