Leased a 2014 Touareg diesel end of last year, similar reasons. Very nice.
Fancy as any Mercedes. She loves it.
I would never want to own a new Mercedes. People who don't have time for
repairs only drive them for a few years until they start to become a
nightmare, and then lease a new one. Ditto
an elliptical can be folded to fit into a car with fold down seat and pass
through. I did it once. Never again. Give me lots of space to haul and easy
access to it. With either of the options available, you are not going to save
on fuel, so go for best hauling ability and what keeps SWMBA
panzerwagon owners are seriously deluded about the value of their roadsters.
Those cars are not going to rise in price for ages. There are too many beat to
crap examples and too few set up like new to get the prices asked. Nobody will
be willing to throw the money needed to restore them to
I would agree with your observations regarding values, however, the SL people I
know are realists and understand that their cars are, for the most part, pretty
much worthless.
I paid $5k for a 1997 with 71,000 miles on it a little more than a year ago.
Everything on it was in excellent shape,
I am thinking this might be worth looking at
http://www.mbnorthlake.com/certified/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-38bf7ca40a0a00657da2d4d36fee3e73.htm
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ML has regular springs GL is air suspension
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On Feb 24, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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So the ML350 has steel and the 430s and 550s and such have the air-ride
feature?
I thought about a GLK but not sure it would have
You are correct, the frod v. kraut decorative differences would probably
not be particularly noticeable.
She did contribute the criterion that she did not need Bluetooth on the
radio.
--R
On 2/23/15 6:36 PM, clay wrote:
How attached is swmba to the lux of having a kraut car over the
So the ML350 has steel and the 430s and 550s and such have the air-ride
feature?
I thought about a GLK but not sure it would have sufficient room to haul
the stuff she might want to haul. She has this elliptical bike thing
that is about 6ft long and does not fit in any fashion on a bike rack
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
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I know we are all pretty much cheapasses but wifey wants a new vehicle and
Not Mercedes but...
My wife works at the Ford dealer in CH. At first I was happy that I
could get the employee discount, but having
Our neighbors bought a new frod Escape. It is comparable to a toada
rav M/L They have been very happy with it. He is a retired car
mechanic.
You are correct, the frod v. kraut decorative differences would
probably not be particularly noticeable.
She did contribute the criterion that she
Wife still reasonably pleased with the X5. It's no 1968-1990
MB, though. The aftermarket seat heaters have been a plague.
I still think it is the best-looking of the SUV's, bar none.
(Except maybe the Gwagen, which I'd have if we could get the
diesel here. But we can't. What I _really_ want
gopher it
-R
On 2/24/15 11:32 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
My friend with the SL is now dangling what would be
insultingly-low (if they were mine) prices in front
of me. I think he's a 'motivated seller', and he knows
I won't screw around. Wife just says: buy one, sell one.
Can't fault her logic.
My 2013 F150 has been fine so far. Only about 20K miles so far but has
not been in for anything.
RB
On 24/02/2015 8:32 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Our neighbors bought a new frod Escape. It is comparable to a toada
rav M/L They have been very happy with it. He is a retired car
a lot and I
would think any problems with durability would crop up.
Don Snook
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Wife still
You didn't specify what model year SL, but SL prices in general are really soft.
As we joke in the SL forum on BenzWorld, Its a good price until your neighbor
puts his Mustang up for sale.
Dan
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On Feb 24, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
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Buy a the real deal. G-wagen.
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On Feb 23, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
I know we are all pretty much cheapasses but wifey wants a new vehicle and
I have suggested a GL or ML. (I lean to a GL just because I like bigger but
So what I am dealing with here is she asserted the need for a new car of
some sort, most likely SUV or pickup so she can haul bikes and various
other stuff that is a mystery to me. I got a $ range and a list of
things she DOESN'T want, as below. It has to be reliable or have some
sort of
To me, the only way to own a newish MB is on lease or CPO, and only
IF you are near a decent stealership. Even so, they will find ways
to dent (not ding) you substantially.
I won't drive 50 to 200 miles each way for an oel change.
You don't want to own it when the electronics go bad.
I'm confused - is the GL the equivalent of a Gelandewagen? Sure doesn't
look like one...
GL now means Rich Broad Wagen
You may substitute other words into the middle position of the phrase.
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Leases might be worth considering if her yearly mileage is not excessive.
A lot of people down here in Fla are taking advantage of the low priced lease
arrangements since most warrantees have a list of exclusions that can be
expensive if something breaks, and modern complicated cars can be very
I'd guess language in the warranty voids the warranty unless you have
service records from an authorized service center which, in the
USA means the stealership. If you ever had a serious warranty claim,
they'd use that to make you pay.
Changing oil in these modern cars is as easy as a
How attached is swmba to the lux of having a kraut car over the generic
interior a frod offers? I would guess that the top end appointments on an
exploder would rival the benz and come to the same costs. I would also think
the repair costs are fairly comparable. Toss up
clay
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