Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

2018-02-22 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something > > Was your 85 an OM 601 engine? The 60x engines are hydraulic lifters not push > rods like the om61x. Right? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Feb 21, 2018 6:10

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2018-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
And if you are losing power going uphill you need to CHANGE YOUR MAIN FUEL FILTER. On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I averaged 28mpg on 2 different cars over about 100,000 miles. > -Curt > > > On Wednesday, February 21, 2018,

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2018-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I averaged 28mpg on 2 different cars over about 100,000 miles. -Curt On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 7:11:33 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: What does a 240d normally get? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Curt Raymond via

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2018-02-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Maybe Floyd is swapping his CD for the cab as we type, beat us both to the punch... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 21, 2018 7:27:21 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >Waiting for the guy to get back to me. > >Sent from my iPhone

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2018-02-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Maybe Floyd is swapping his CD for the cab as we type, beat us both to the punch... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 21, 2018 7:27:21 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >Waiting for the guy to get back to me. > >Sent from my iPhone

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2018-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Waiting for the guy to get back to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Traded for a cabriolet? I can't believe you're passing on that. I'm tempted > to buy a nice 240D and drive out there to swap it. > -- > Max

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2018-02-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Traded for a cabriolet? I can't believe you're passing on that. I'm tempted to buy a nice 240D and drive out there to swap it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 21, 2018 7:16:55 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > > >> Kaleb C.

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2018-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes February 21, 2018 at 6:11 PM What does a 240d normally get? Left in the shed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

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2018-02-21 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
The adjuster pucks do wear out though. Then you get one valve that stops behaving. Replace the offending adjuster thing and it gets better. Or, since you are in there, may as well do them all. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models-

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2018-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What does a 240d normally get? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted the > valves ;) > Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly

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2018-02-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yep, and on the engines you mention, check to see if they are hydraulic valves (don't need adjustment) or mechanical, that will need adjustment. I've run OM603s hundtreds of thousands of miles and NEVER adjusted the valves! ('cause they are hydraulic and don't need to be adjusted) Max

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2018-02-21 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Hard to start, poor performance, it just sort of feels wrong? clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple

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2018-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yeah it runs good once its warmed up. It idles like crap when it first starts if I haven't been using the block heater which I think is added confirmation. 4.5L 4 cylinder, big motor. Almost 1000#... -Curt On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 6:24:01 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes

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2018-02-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yup - like the others said - classic sign of valves that need to be adjusted. Why they go to tighter clearance instead of looser I have no idea - but I usually found both loose and tight valves when I adjusted them on OM615, 616 and 617 engines. On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Curt Raymond via

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2018-02-21 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Was your 85 an OM 601 engine? The 60x engines are hydraulic lifters not push rods like the om61x. Right? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Feb 21, 2018 6:10 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted the

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2018-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
These are the jokes kid... -Curt On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 6:21:53 PM EST, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: An '85 190D has hydraulic compensators (lifters) that don't require routine adjustment. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On

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2018-02-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
My understanding is that the valve adjustment generally gets too tight rather than too loose. Too tight means that the valves don't close all the way when they are cold. Once warmed up they likely expand a bit and close better so the motor will run not too badly once it warms up but is

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2018-02-21 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes that too. Also need to adjust valves to keep blinker fluid clear Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Feb 21, 2018 6:09 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > I think Dwight and Randy have pretty much nailed it. I'd add increased > smoke and lower mpg. > -- > Max Dillon

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2018-02-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
An '85 190D has hydraulic compensators (lifters) that don't require routine adjustment. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 21, 2018 6:10:08 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once

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2018-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Okay cool you guys said what I expected. So the ASV https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4647/25670161128_33cf875d50_b.jpgstarts wicked hard in the cold, even at like 20F. Its got 2x grp 49 batteries (parallel, so 12v) that it can run right down to nothing. I can get it to start by running the block

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2018-02-21 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Dr Booth said that every cold weather cold start was,a compression test. Need valves adjusted not to lose compression. So Curt what is your reveal? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Feb 21, 2018 5:47 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" wrote: > Well, most of you folks have

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2018-02-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 21/02/2018 5:08 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I think Dwight and Randy have pretty much nailed it. I'd add increased smoke and lower mpg. I was thinking the mileage improved as well but couldn't recall for certain as I got a bit lazy with my record keeping. I was keeping records of

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2018-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted the valves ;) Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg. I'd sure like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out... -Curt On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:53:02 PM EST, Randy

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2018-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Low compression hard to start because they are hanging open Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time? > > I'll explain in a bit after you guys

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2018-02-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think Dwight and Randy have pretty much nailed it. I'd add increased smoke and lower mpg. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 21, 2018 5:45:39 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a

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2018-02-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time? I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already thought. -Curt ___ AND, I have it on reliable

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2018-02-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time? I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already thought. -Curt ___ Might be wishful thinking on

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2018-02-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Well, most of you folks have much more experience with this sort of thing than I do, but I will chime in anyway. My 115 300D got to where it was unwilling to start when it was cold out. Adjusting the valves fixed that problem and I believe it sounded smoother after as well. RB On 21/02/2018

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2018-02-21 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Hard starting. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long > time? > > I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I