Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Michael Canfield
Some signs: pain seems like it is not helped any more, craving for the pill just because you think it will make things better, temptation to use recreationally, lying about it if you do take an extra one, a feeling that everything sucks until ya get another one, irritabilty(sp?)...even the nicest

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Symptoms of addiction to painkillers are: Needing increasing doses to achieve pain control long after any serious pain should be gone (post-surgical injury pain shouldn't last more than 48 hours, but bone surgery pain can last a couple weeks at uncomfortable levels) Being unable to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Michael Canfield
A good way to sum it up I think. Chemical dependancy works on your body, it makes you FEEL like you need more. Addiction works on your brain, it makes you THINK that you need more. Comments? Mike On Mar 24, 2013 10:54 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Symptoms of addiction to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Peter Frederick
My own personal experiences with strong painkillers are very limited -- had a kidney stone in 2002, NOT fun, but one percocet was more than enough, tossed the rest. The pain goes away, the drugs last all day. After my auto accident, I had some severe pain from bruised nerves, and those

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Dan Penoff
That stuff scares the heck out of me. I am understandably concerned about the wife's upcoming hip replacement surgery, as I know there will be a lot of post operative pain, and she has a pretty low threshold for it. I rarely even take something for a headache, as I would rather tough it out

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Brian Toscano
Some painkillers affect people differently. For example, after a few doses of Percoset I stopped taking them because of unpredictable side effects. Hydrocodone was far more predictable but I also only took a few. I am like Dan, would rather tough it out. Pain medication is supposed to reduce,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Dieselhead
Correct. Nothing eliminates pain. Pain is there to keep us from hurting ourselves and to allow healing. I do not even let the dentist use Novocaine. The drill is annoying, but the pain is not that bad. When I get out of the chair, it is over. When they use Novocaine, you are out of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Peter Frederick
One of the really bad things about modern medicine is that they tell you pain killers will make you totally pain free. I've got arthritis in my hands now, and believe me, you have to be totally unconcious to be pain free! Livable, yes, free of pain like you were 18, not a chance.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Dan Penoff
Holy. You sound like my dad, who's aversion to needles was so powerful he never took any sort of pain medication for dental work. I can't even begin to imagine. As for the Novocaine issue, do what I do - always schedule the work late in the day, then go home and sleep it off. Dan Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Dieselhead
I don't have an aversion to needles. I just don't believe in painkillers unless it is necessary, and then for a very short time. Most of them are bad news. I have an uncle in law who was an olympic silver medalist, who later became a dentist. I went to him a couple of times, and he was the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Gerry Archer
- Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]] On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:13:52 -0400 Michael Canfield

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread drcscruggs
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]] Correct. Nothing eliminates pain. Pain is there to keep us from hurting ourselves and to allow healing. I do not even let the dentist use Novocaine. The drill is annoying, but the pain is not that bad

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]]

2013-03-24 Thread Dieselhead
Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Mar 24, 2013 2:27 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys [was: Re: Ripping me open [was: Re: Autohaus AZ]] Correct. Nothing eliminates pain. Pain is there to keep us from hurting