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2021-04-19 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
So the actual issue is fraud, and increased flooding due to human actions to (a) fill in the drainage and (b) continue to build in the surrounding area which increases runoff.  Properly solved with legal means and civil engineering to restore drainage, and without demonizing fossil fuels. Max

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2021-04-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
No i will have to check. We are in a velocity zone. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 1:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Ouch! Any idea what it’s going to cost after they revamp the policies next > year? What is, is it going to go up astronomically? > > FEMA flood

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2021-04-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The new flood maps moved my house out of a VE zone into an AE zone and the rates for flood insurance have dropped tremendously. Had I built my addition now instead of some years ago I could probably have saved $30k since I would no longer have to build to VE standards. At the time, the VE

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2021-04-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
As I previously mentioned these houses were built with falsified elevation certificates by the City building inspector who has been dead for some time. It is strongly suspected this was collusion between the developer and the mayor at the time (and who was mayor for 40yr). So, corruption. She

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2021-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ouch! Any idea what it’s going to cost after they revamp the policies next year? What is, is it going to go up astronomically? FEMA flood insurance for our former house that was in Zone “X” was $400/year. Not required, but we figured it was cheap insurance in the event something catastrophic

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2021-04-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
We pay 3700/year in flood insurance now. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 1:10 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > An interesting point. How long have building permits been a thing? Some > of the houses in flood zones are quite old and probably

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2021-04-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
An interesting point. How long have building permits been a thing? Some of the houses in flood zones are quite old and probably predate such things. At least on the east coast. -Curt On Monday, April 19, 2021, 12:44:17 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: There is another layer of

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2021-04-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
There is another layer of liability which no one is considering. To build a house, even 50 years ago, you have to have a "building permit" issued by the government agency, [usually called something like "Planning and Zoning something or the other"... Having issued a "permit to build" this

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2021-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I realize this might be an unpleasant subject, but it’s my opinion that if a flood zone floods more than a certain number of times in a given number of years, FEMA should stop paying out. Granted, that means that some, if not all, of the residents are going to be in bad shape for a number of

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2021-04-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Dan's point is valid, the house shows up right bang in the middle of a flood zone. I googled "Fema flood zone map" and it came up with "search by address". I get what you're saying, this out to be a required disclosure but buyers ought to at least do some bare minimum of research when buying a

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2021-04-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
No that is the issue, it is NOT public record. FEMA rules prevent disclosure of previous claims and payouts.  Some of the houses in her neighborhood have been flipped several times, every 2-3 years after a flood and repair, to the next sucker who has no clue.  Unless a buyer goes around and

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2021-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s called “due diligence”, and while I know some people are sloppy, dismissive, or don’t care, it’s ultimately the purchaser’s responsibility to vet stuff like this. My former house was in a flood zone but had a LOMA to exempt it because of the improvements to the land the builder made. The

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2021-04-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A quick look at the map of the area in question shows water all around it. Google street view looks like the area is flat as a pancake, there's water right around the corner already. It's pretty obvious to me that place would flood... The story says she didn't know it would flood when she

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2021-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m trying to understand how one would be on the hook from a liability standpoint if they sold? That’s like saying if you don’t disclose a property is in a flood zone you’re liable. It’s public record and an underwriter or lender is going to look for this as a part of the underwriting process.