Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-19 Thread Tan Qu
Thanks Marshall. I didn't think the subframe mount would cause that either. Tan --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tan Qu wrote: Another question is: how often do you all replace the differential fluid? I probably need to drain the differential to see what kind of condition

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Tan Qu wrote: Another question is: how often do you all replace the differential fluid? I probably need to drain the differential to see what kind of condition the fluid is in to rule out a failing differential. Then new flex disks next to see if the problem goes away. I am not feeling any

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-16 Thread Tan Qu
The car handles pretty tight. It is just binding noise that concerns me. I do have the new links - you were talking about the rear sway bar links not the rear camber struts, were you? Do the subframe mounts really need the special tool to RR? Tan --- Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu,

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-16 Thread Marshall Booth
Tan Qu wrote: Our '87 190Dt started to make some noise from the back of the car, more likely from where the rear end is. When the car accelerate from standstill (for exmaplen at a stop sign), the car feels being dragged, the engine RPM goes up but the actual car speed does not seem to go up and

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-16 Thread Tan Qu
Yes. When car was up and emergency brake OFF I was able to spin the wheels just two months ago when I changed all pads. Also the binding problem seems to never happen if it gently (I mean really slowly) accelerate from a stopped condition. It feels like something suddenly got stuck when there is

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-16 Thread Marshall Booth
Tan Qu wrote: Yes. When car was up and emergency brake OFF I was able to spin the wheels just two months ago when I changed all pads. Also the binding problem seems to never happen if it gently (I mean really slowly) accelerate from a stopped condition. It feels like something suddenly got stuck

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-16 Thread Tan Qu
Another question is: how often do you all replace the differential fluid? I probably need to drain the differential to see what kind of condition the fluid is in to rule out a failing differential. Then new flex disks next to see if the problem goes away. I am not feeling any vibration from the

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-16 Thread Marshall Booth
Tan Qu wrote: Another question is: how often do you all replace the differential fluid? I probably need to drain the differential to see what kind of condition the fluid is in to rule out a failing differential. Then new flex disks next to see if the problem goes away. I am not feeling any

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Another question is: how often do you all replace the differential fluid? Every time I have to replace a half-shaft! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Tan Qu
Marshall, The brake hoses (all 4 of them) and the rear calipers (ATE) are new. I never changed the differential fluid for whole time I owned this car (from 100k to now 250k). There was no leaks or anything last time I was under the car. I am hoping some new differential mounts may solve the

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Marshall Booth
Tan Qu wrote: Marshall, The brake hoses (all 4 of them) and the rear calipers (ATE) are new. I never changed the differential fluid for whole time I owned this car (from 100k to now 250k). There was no leaks or anything last time I was under the car. I am hoping some new differential mounts may

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Tan Qu
Does W201 use the same differential mounts as the W124 or other models? I can find the mounts for W124 at Rusty's website but not for W201. Also, is there a particular reason you used W202 subframe mount in lieu of the original W201 mounts just part availability issue? Tan --- Marshall Booth

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Marshall Booth
Tan Qu wrote: Does W201 use the same differential mounts as the W124 or other models? I can find the mounts for W124 at Rusty's website but not for W201. Also, is there a particular reason you used W202 subframe mount in lieu of the original W201 mounts just part availability issue? The 202

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 03:30:11PM -0500, Marshall Booth wrote: The 202 subframe mount has been used to suppress differential noise in 201 series cars almost as soon as they became available. I believe they now supersede the 201 subframe mounts. They sort of do. One set was a 202 part

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Tan Qu
That's what Rusty said when I just talked to him. There is no differential mount for W201 at least the 190Dt. Four sets of bolts and washer hold the differential in place. Could the washer be something like this -

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:49:15PM -0800, Tan Qu wrote: Four sets of bolts and washer hold the differential in place. The washer is a boring old flat washer. Well, would this new finding suggesting the subframe mounts have collapsed and caused the change of the geometry of

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Rusty Cullens
No, it is a longer one. It reaches both upper lower bolts. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tan Qu Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:49 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT That's what Rusty said

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Tan Qu
Was that a big job? How long did it take you to do it? If lubing the calipers pin do not help, I may have to look to go in that way. Tan --- Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:49:15PM -0800, Tan Qu wrote: Four sets of bolts and washer hold the differential in place.

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:02:54PM -0800, Tan Qu wrote: Was that a big job? How long did it take you to do it? If lubing the calipers pin do not help, I may have to look to go in that way. Unfortunately, I dropped that subframe enough that I could get it dropped in under a half hour, and

Re: [MBZ] Rear end noise - '87 190DT

2005-12-14 Thread Marshall Booth
Tan Qu wrote: Our '87 190Dt started to make some noise from the back of the car, more likely from where the rear end is. When the car accelerate from standstill (for exmaplen at a stop sign), the car feels being dragged, the engine RPM goes up but the actual car speed does not seem to go up and