Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-15 Thread Rich Thomas
So the car needs 2 of these bushings? Looks like I'll just make the tool with a bolt and socket and washers like in that posting. Amazon has Febi bushings for $4.70 and I can get free shipping, can Dr. Fatty beat that? I might as well order enough to do 3 cars. --R (sent from my miniPad)

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-15 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I'm pretty sure the 'socket' tool will only work if the linkage has been removed from the car. Hence the plier tool, which will work with linkage on car. Hendrik who has managed to install bushings without fancy tool but needed to use a lot of fancy words of encouragement On 16/02/14 12:26,

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-15 Thread Dieselhead
I'm pretty sure the 'socket' tool will only work if the linkage has been removed from the car. Hence the plier tool, which will work with linkage on car. Hendrik who has managed to install bushings without fancy tool but needed to use a lot of fancy words of encouragement at least the end

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-12 Thread Larry T
buyeuroparts.com has them for $0.69 each. Buy a bunch sell them on ebay for $50! :-) Where did you get the $50 price from? Sincerely, Larry On 2/11/2014 7:37 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Um, huh?! The shifter bushings for lets say my 240D are $50 each? Sent from my iPhone $50 from fats?

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Take the extra cash and buy one of those fancy pliers they use to install these. Well worth the expense if you've ever done this job. I would liken them to my Hazet drain wrench. Best $50 I ever spent, even if I only use it a few times a year. Dan On Feb 12, 2014, at 6:01 AM, Larry T

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-12 Thread Craig
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 07:04:41 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Take the extra cash and buy one of those fancy pliers they use to install these. Well worth the expense if you've ever done this job. I would liken them to my Hazet drain wrench. Best $50 I ever spent, even if I only use

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-12 Thread Randy Bennell
You have to pay close attention to the details. They only cost that if you want the free installation tool and the free shipping to Australia. On 11/02/2014 5:57 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Um, huh?! The shifter bushings for lets say my 240D are $50 each? Sent from my iPhone On Feb

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-12 Thread Randy Bennell
If you watch the video of Kent on Mercedessource and look at the photos of the ones that he sells, you will note that they appear to have taken a pair of long handled needlenose pliers, cut the ends off and welded a bolt on one side and a loop on the other. It ought not be hard to make one

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I have the small red colored pliers-type tool and have no idea what it does. Inherited it from my Uncle Clarence. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: If you watch the video of Kent on Mercedessource and look at the photos of the ones that he sells, you

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-12 Thread Rich Thomas
What's the clearance for Clarence's tool? Will it do my bushings? --R On 2/12/14 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I have the small red colored pliers-type tool and have no idea what it does. Inherited it from my Uncle Clarence. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Randy Bennell

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I would doubt it. It's far more dainty - like a tool for rivets or making aiglets. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: What's the clearance for Clarence's tool? Will it do my bushings? --R On 2/12/14 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Larry T
My impression was you were talking about a manual gearbox - is ATF spec'd for manny trannys? most use engine oil but I've never owned a manny MB Sincerely, Larry On 2/10/2014 6:57 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Any drawbacks to the M1 ATF? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:11

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes Curt when I put Mobil 1 ATF my slushbox 240D it became a different car especially in winter. Dimitri, curt's white 240D had Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil in manny tranny dif when I had it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread dseretakis
Well I guess I have to go with the M1 ATF! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Curt when I put Mobil 1 ATF my slushbox 240D it became a different car especially in winter. Dimitri, curt's white 240D had Mobil 1 synthetic gear

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Dieselhead
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Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Dieselhead
My impression was you were talking about a manual gearbox - is ATF spec'd for manny trannys? most use engine oil but I've never owned a manny MB Sincerely, Larry If you want to ruin a MB manual trans, just put gear oil in it. Or run it dry. The ONLY MB manual trans I have ever

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Craig
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:49:08 -0500 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: My impression was you were talking about a manual gearbox - is ATF spec'd for manny trannys? most use engine oil but I've never owned a manny MB Mercedes manual transmissions MUST have ATF. Mobil 1 works

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Craig
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:29:36 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I guess I have to go with the M1 ATF! Yes, by all means, do it! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, check the fluid level. as for fluid, i recall using redline mtl a lot but not totally sure on the details On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:57 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok. I will check fluid level first. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Curt Raymond
-0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems Message-ID: a06240806cf1fe7c5631d@[192.168.1.52] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed My impression was you were talking about a manual gearbox

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell
I have no personal experience, never having owned an MB with a manual transmission, but I have heard that synthetic is not always good in manual boxes that were not designed for it as it is too slippery and the synchros don't work as they should. Now I am sure someone will argue with that

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Larry T
Thanks Craig, and others all the manual trans I have worked with all required engine oil (LBCa, Porsche, etc) Learn something every day ;-) BTW, i have had excellent results using Amsoil products -- after i saw my customers Oil Analysis Tests I became convinced Amsoil is better

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Speaking of shifting, after getting the 300SD back on the road I noticed that the parking pawl is not going in (I can hear it hitting but not engaging) and the shifter has to be jiggered to get the start switch engaged. Having never dealt with the shifter adjuster or safety switch, tell me if

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Gary Hurst
i think i just used any ordinary dexron in my 72 220D it ws 15 years ago that i got hit in that car. i sure did like it :( On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Craig, and others all the manual trans I have worked with all required engine oil

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread OK Don
I won't argue with you on a theoretical level, but will from an experience level. the synchros work just fine with M1 in a MB many tranny., at least in the three I used it in. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I have no personal experience, never having

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread OK Don
The only out of adjustment of a shifter that I've seen or heard of is the loss of the bushings. One minute they're there, the next they are gone. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Speaking of shifting, after getting the 300SD back on the

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Dieselhead
Speaking of shifting, after getting the 300SD back on the road I noticed that the parking pawl is not going in (I can hear it hitting but not engaging) and the shifter has to be jiggered to get the start switch engaged. Having never dealt with the shifter adjuster or safety switch, tell me

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread clay
There was a period of using 30 weight. I think it was two years, while there was a transition from one formula of ATF to another. Gump used ATF, Mobil 1. The manual called for oil, but the years prior to 72 and after called ATF clay On Feb 11, 2014, at 3:49 AM, Larry T wrote: My

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
What is the procedure? Hey Dr. Fatty -- fiddy cents of bushings and $12 for shipping? --R (too lazy to look up the procedure) On 2/11/14 2:47 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Speaking of shifting, after getting the 300SD back on the road I noticed that the parking pawl is not going in (I can hear it

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 11/02/2014 2:36 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: What is the procedure? Hey Dr. Fatty -- fiddy cents of bushings and $12 for shipping? --R (too lazy to look up the procedure) I have not done it but I have heard enough about it to know, that the first thing you do is to buy the special plier type

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell
like this https://www.google.ca/search?q=Mercedes+shifter+linkage+toolclient=firefox-ahs=Qh1rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:officialtbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=f5P6Ut7-CaKSyAHn_oDoDQved=0CDIQsAQbiw=1536bih=762dpr=1.25 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Gary Hurst
it depends. probably not. worldpac won't want to just bring me them for free but maybe they will. after that, it's just first class postage. so it could be as cheap as a couple of bucks On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: What is the

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Someone, either here or on a different group, described a way to use bolts and washers to install the new bushings. Tighten up the bolt and the washer pushes in the new bushings, or something like that. Gerry On 2/11/2014 4:15 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 11/02/2014 2:36 PM, Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/vintage-mercedes-benz/1764890-shift-linkage-bushing-tool.html On 11/02/2014 3:24 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Someone, either here or on a different group, described a way to use bolts and washers to install the new bushings. Tighten up the bolt and the

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Dieselhead
Someone, either here or on a different group, described a way to use bolts and washers to install the new bushings. Tighten up the bolt and the washer pushes in the new bushings, or something like that. Gerry Yep. Washers and a bolt. I've never had the tool. 40 years ago it was a dealer

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Anyone have one of these things? --R On 2/11/14 4:18 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: like this https://www.google.ca/search?q=Mercedes+shifter+linkage+toolclient=firefox-ahs=Qh1rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:officialtbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=f5P6Ut7-CaKSyAHn_oDoDQved=0CDIQsAQbiw=1536bih=762dpr=1.25

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Curt Raymond
I wish Amsoil wasn't a pyramid scheme. I want to go to the store and buy oil not get involved selling the stuff. The oil might be great but the company stinks. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:30:21 -0500 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shifting

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1297987-transmission-shifter-bushing-tool-helper.html On 11/02/2014 3:50 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Someone, either here or on a different group, described a way to use bolts and washers to install the new bushings. Tighten up the bolt and the

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-11 Thread Dieselhead
Anyone have one of these things? --R On 2/11/14 4:18 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: like this https://www.google.ca/search?q=Mercedes+shifter+linkage+toolclient=firefox-ahs=Qh1rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:officialtbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=f5P6Ut7-CaKSyAHn_oDoDQved=0CDIQsAQbiw=1536bih=762dpr=1.25 I

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-11 Thread Curt Raymond
I concur and raise it by the 3 cars (1 190D and 2 240Ds) I had it in. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:18:24 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems Message-ID:     CANZcij-XByQdMGODrpTTh2wvjxWB3xkwtNn5R2G=nzvrwz3

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 11/02/2014 4:51 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Anyone have one of these things? --R On 2/11/14 4:18 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: like this

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-11 Thread dseretakis
Um, huh?! The shifter bushings for lets say my 240D are $50 each? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/02/2014 4:51 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Anyone have one of these things? --R On 2/11/14 4:18 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: like

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-11 Thread Dieselhead
Um, huh?! The shifter bushings for lets say my 240D are $50 each? Sent from my iPhone $50 from fats? Cheaper if you don't buy them from Fats: $3 ea here http://www.mbpartsworld.com/p/Mercedes__E36-AMG/BUSHING/7599665/2109920010.html $7 a pair from kent $17 a pair including $2 shipping from

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-11 Thread dseretakis
That's a relief! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Um, huh?! The shifter bushings for lets say my 240D are $50 each? Sent from my iPhone $50 from fats? Cheaper if you don't buy them from Fats: $3 ea here

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-11 Thread Dieselhead
I used to get them from the stealers for under a buck, but those days are gone. I think I remember 45¢, but that was a long time ago. inflations sucks, unless you have lots of money borrowed, and can pay back with inflated money. That's a relief! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems -- bushing tool

2014-02-11 Thread Craig
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:29:03 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I used to get them from the stealers for under a buck, but those days are gone. I think I remember 45¢, but that was a long time ago. inflations sucks, unless you have lots of money borrowed, and can pay back with

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-10 Thread Dieselhead
I've been having some difficulty getting my 240D manny tranny shifter into third gear. It hits a wall then on the second or third try it'll engage. Worse in cold. There is no grinding so I doubt a synchro problem. I'm thinking shifter linkage. Any thoughts? Sent from my MBPhone Shifter

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-10 Thread Fmiser
dseretakis wrote: I've been having some difficulty getting my 240D manny tranny shifter into third gear. It hits a wall then on the second or third try it'll engage. Worse in cold. There is no grinding so I doubt a synchro problem. I'm thinking shifter linkage. Dieselhead wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-10 Thread dseretakis
Ok. I will check fluid level first. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I've been having some difficulty getting my 240D manny tranny shifter into third gear. It hits a wall then on the second or third try it'll engage. Worse in cold.

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-10 Thread dseretakis
Any drawbacks to the M1 ATF? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: dseretakis wrote: I've been having some difficulty getting my 240D manny tranny shifter into third gear. It hits a wall then on the second or third try it'll engage. Worse in

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-10 Thread Dieselhead
Ok. I will check fluid level first. Sent from my MBPhone Not nit-picking, but it is easier to check the linkage bushings. no plug to pull for that. However while you are there, unless you have checked the fluid level in the past few months, it is a good idea to check fluids in trans and

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-10 Thread dseretakis
I've never checked the trans and diff fluids! Yikes! Will def check bushings too. Will wait for a warm day. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. I will check fluid level first. Sent from my MBPhone Not nit-picking, but it is easier to

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond
-0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems Message-ID: 20140210171121.68a3b...@jasper.condray.lan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII And/or wrong fluid?  Mobil 1 ATF is really nice in those. --  Philip

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-10 Thread Hendrik and Fay
$$$'s who is in trim mode On 11/02/14 10:27, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Any drawbacks to the M1 ATF? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Shifting problems

2014-02-10 Thread Craig
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:57:59 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Any drawbacks to the M1 ATF? [in MB manual transmission] Nope. I've been running it in our '82 240D/3.0 since about 180 kmi. Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 126 kmi '94 E420