Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Rich Thomas
I'd say 8g, you can get single-cable short lengths at HD or Lowes, or any electrical supply shop will cut a bit for you. If you want bigger, the 3-wire stuff for connecting panels to boxes comes in larger sizes, you can get that at Lowes/HD too off spools in any length. --R On 8/28/12 2:33

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: I'd say 8g, you can get single-cable short lengths at HD or Lowes, or any electrical supply shop will cut a bit for you. If you want bigger, the 3-wire stuff for connecting panels to boxes comes in larger sizes, you can get that at

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Dan Penoff
I would definitely agree - always use stranded as opposed to solid copper in an application like this. You'll get more current using stranded as well. Dan On Aug 28, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: I'd say 8g, you can get

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Will Lowes/HD have multi-strand wire? I don't think single strand will survive automotive usage. -Curt Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:45:50 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Gerry Archer
I use this wire gauge and usually use pieces of an orange 12 gauge extension cord because it has a very tough cover that prevents accidental shorts from wire rubbing on metal. According to the chart, you can use one 12 gauge wire for 100 amps at 12 volts if it's not more than 5 feet long. I

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Yes, they will, both in spools and cut to length. One thing that might appear weird is that it will most likely have a Teflon or clear jacket over the (colored) insulation. This is normal and is actually good for applications such as automobiles. I have some rolls of this I used for running

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Fmiser
Curt Raymond wrote: Anyway I'm obviously going to replace the roasted wire but what size should it be? The biggest wire I can easily get locally is 10ga which is what I used to the glowplugs but this wire seems a bit larger. I'm thinking its 8ga which I would have to order although its not

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Dan Penoff
And crimp connectors with soldered barrels make the connections very permanent. I don't like crimp connectors myself, but when I do use them I solder the conductors in them, too. Sort of a belt and suspenders approach. Dan On Aug 28, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Yes, they will, both

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Fmiser
Rich Thomas writes: I'd say 8g, you can get single-cable short lengths at HD or Lowes, or any electrical supply shop will cut a bit for you. If you want bigger, the 3-wire stuff for connecting panels to boxes comes in larger sizes, you can get that at Lowes/HD too off spools in any

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Dan Penoff
If you are going this big gauge-wise, definitely go to a FLAPS or a NAPA store and buy bulk battery cable. It will be far better for current draw, as it will have a much higher conductor count, and the jacket will be better suited for the under hood environment. Even better if you can find it

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Dan Penoff
You can get rubber jacketed non-UL rated welding cable down to 6 AWG. I like the heavier stuff for some kick-ass starter cables. We had scraps of it all over the place when I was in the generator business. Amazing how much faster they spin when there is nearly 0 voltage drop... You want some

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Allan Streib
Used to be common with VW Vanagons to upgrade the main from the battery to the starter. With the battery under the front passenger seat, and the starter WAYYY in the back, the stock cable was just barely adequate to the task. Was probably close to a 10' run. They are difficult to jump start for

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Rich Thomas
:50 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use? Message-ID: 503d11de.6040...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'd say 8g, you can get single

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Rich Thomas
That is probably the single-wire stuff to use for pulling through conduit (and it is rated higher temp I believe). I have rolls of that too in multiple colors, 12g stranded actually. I think that is labeled THHN. I found a whole load of almost full rolls in a dumpster on the Rice U

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Fmiser
Dan Penoff wrote: I don't like crimp connectors myself, but when I do use them I solder the conductors in them, too. Sort of a belt and suspenders approach. A well done crimp is _better_ than soldered in the vibration prone environment in a car. That's because to get the wire hot enough to

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Most people don't know how to do a proper crimp, and/or they don't have the right tools, either. Half the battle is having the correct tool to do the crimping, as many DIY'ers think that smashing the terminal to bits is the way to go. I thoroughly detest those plier-like plastic handled

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Frederick Moir
Alles. The proper crimping tool creates a weld of the wire to connector   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread Fmiser
Gerry Archer wrote: According to the chart, you can use one 12 gauge wire for 100 amps at 12 volts if it's not more than 5 feet long. http://www.offroaders.com/tech/12-volt-wire-gauge-amps.htm That chart does not mention voltage drop. Often that is far more a factor than the ability of the

Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?

2012-08-28 Thread clay monroe
The wires in Gump were stranded to the GPs front and back, but solid toaster bent copper between them. Front wire is four or five inches long clay On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: I'd say 8g, you can get