[MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Harry Watkins
To all,

What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from the house
and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged against
the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.

Harry Watkins
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans





Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread degcoast
You are facing selling it to Kaleb (or me ) for 500 dollars. Did the bolt 
break or just come loose and drop off?


Dwight Giles
1979 240D auto 244k + miles
Wickford, RI
Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage
- Original Message - 
From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:55 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D



To all,

What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from the 
house

and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged against
the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.

Harry Watkins
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans



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Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Steve MacSween
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from the house
 and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged against
 the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.

The outcome here depends on the threads, in other words did the bolt just
gradually back out or are the threads damaged?

Best case: you get a new bolt, and you live happily ever after.

If the threads are damaged, in theory you can try to machine the crank but
no one I have talked to supports that on a diesel, in practice.

The alternative is a new crank.

I don't enjoy telling you this, but it's based on my own experience a few
years ago. I was lucky... the bolt went in, tightened okay and everyone
breathed a sigh of relief... when it was still there a couple of months
later.

Was your engine rebuilt at some point?

Mac




Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Happened to my 81 also.  It was the pulleys, not the damper.  Some bolts 
snapped, some loose.  take out the pulleys and you should be able to 
unscrew the broken off bolts.  A dremel or die grinder to cut screwdriver 
slots may help.  Buy 6 new allen head capscrews.  (Rusty or an industrial 
supply place)   Put the belts on the damper, put the pulleys on the damper 
and put the bolts in.


If the damper truly is off, then you have lost the big bolt and 
washer.  best found from a salvage engine.  Make sure the alignment pins 
are in place and that you have the damper aligned properly so tdc is when 
the engine is at TDC.  Replace big bolt and torque it good.



At 08:55 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:

To all,

What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from the house
and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged against
the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.

Harry Watkins
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans



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Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread OK Don
I'm starting to see atrend here - should anyone with a 616 engine
tighten or replace the bolts as a preventative measure? How many miles
on the engines when this occured?

On 7/6/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Happened to my 81 also.  
-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL 280k miles
'81 240D, 185k miles
'78 450SLC 80k miles



Re: [MBZ] Re: Mercedes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 31 re: outside temp gauge

2005-07-07 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:50:07 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rusty;
 
 I probably stopped listening at the word hundred, and he may well have
 said: five hundred plus.
 
 Hard to believe that anything involving a commodity LED would be so
 expensive, but I don't know what else is involved in it.
 
 Any other solutions? Junkyard/used?
 
 Joseph
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 31
 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:59:51 +
 
 Today's Topics:
 
1. RE: Advice for potential purchaser?? (R A Bennell)
2. Re: Blinker (Marshall Booth)
3. Re: What to use as test refrigerant on R-12 system (dave walton)
4. Re: 85 300D, KLIMA relay? and what does it do (Marshall Booth)
5. Re: 123 Ign lock Q (Loren Faeth)
6. Re: 722.6 Tranny Fluid Change (Dave Wakin)
7. Re: did they put magic pixie dust in the R134 this year?
   (John Ervine)
8. Re: 722.6 Tranny Fluid Change (Marshall Booth)
9. Outside temp gauge 1994 E500 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   10. RE: Outside temp gauge 1994 E500 (Rusty Cullens)
   11. Re: What to use as test refrigerant on R-12 system
   (Kaleb C. Striplin)
   12. Re: Diagnosing problems on my '72 250C (Russ Maki)
   13. Re: Advice for potential purchaser?? (Steve MacSween)
   14. Re: Advice for potential purchaser?? (redghost)
   15. Re: 85 300D, KLIMA relay? and what does it do (David Brodbeck)
 


Please don't quote the entire digest; that's very bad form.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Harry Watkins
280K on mine.  Replacement of the bolt sounds like a good idea.  I don't
think tightening would be wise.  Is locktite used?

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

- Original Message - 
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D


I'm starting to see atrend here - should anyone with a 616 engine
tighten or replace the bolts as a preventative measure? How many miles
on the engines when this occured?





Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

2005-07-07 Thread OK Don
I bought the LEDs to wire in and see what's going on. They are still
sitting on the table in the Radio Shack blister packs. I haven't dug
into the wiring diagram yet to see which wire to connect them to.
However, the ACC is now working just fine! We're preparing for a trip
to Mexico next week, so I doubt that I'll get to it till we come back.
I'll report progress as it occurs.
Thanks to everyone for the help and suggestions.

On 7/5/05, Richard Hattaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Good luck to Don, maybe he will have a report for us on his activities
 this weekend with the LED's etc.
 
 Richard
 

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger


On Wednesday, July 6, 2005, at 07:41  PM, Steve MacSween wrote:


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from 
the house
and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged 
against

the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.


I had the dampener/balancer and pulleys come off my OM617 twice..

First time near an MB dealer and the resident gorilla w/a 4 foot bar 
put everything back together again..  A hundred thousand miles 
later, it came loose again..  Got it to my Phoenix indy  
Dampener slot was damaged, but crank OK.  He got a used 
dampener/balancer and new dowels.  It's all back together and 
runs great...


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
1980 300SD.




[MBZ] nothing to see here, move on

2005-07-07 Thread redghost

I'm scraping the bottom here folks

http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/82797457.html  --Mog Axles  1500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/82799057.html  --Gas Mog 404 6speed 2k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/82836994.html  --Mobile VO heater

http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/82885872.html  -benz parts ???

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/82709797.html  --Gas 190  $4800

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/82741992.html  --GM diesel Coupe

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/82829455.html  -74 Maserati $7k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/82880692.html  --Car hauler $3500


no affiliation, etc.




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Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA




Re: [MBZ] nothing to see here, move on

2005-07-07 Thread Steve MacSween
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/82829455.html  -74 Maserati $7k

DROL




Re: [MBZ] nothing to see here, move on

2005-07-07 Thread Steve MacSween
Yeah, very true, but you always hear those urban legends about divorce
sales, etc.

I used to want to own a car like that *someday* but I seem to have come to
my senses I actually wanted a Jensen Interceptor. There is some little
old guy with one stuck in a dry storage barn somewhere around here (along
with a heap of other assorted rare cars). At last count about 20 of us were
waiting for him to push off this mortal, etc., to get our grubby paws on
them.

So far he has managed to outlive my enthusiasm for the Jensen folly.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks too good to be true -- --
 
 On 7/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/82829455.html  -74 Maserati $7k
 
 DROL
 
 




Re: [MBZ] Mobile Diesel Genset

2005-07-07 Thread redghost

http://seattle.craigslist.org/for/82828326.html

this one is smaller than the 25kvw below, this is only 5500 watt and 
smaller


On Wednesday, July 6, 2005, at 10:24 PM, redghost wrote:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/for/82782126.html

$8k. looks new


--
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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA


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Re: [MBZ] http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2005-07-07 Thread Steve MacSween
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FYI:
 
 http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/   is back on line
 

Yes, but only the 123 manual pages are active.

Some of the 126 and 116 stuff was available before, wasn't it?

Mac




[MBZ] Now THIS is a dog

2005-07-07 Thread Steve MacSween
Full points to the seller for honesty in trading, but I almost died of
laughter reading the listing

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=6008item=
4560170629rd=1ssPageName=WDVW

Mac




Re: [MBZ] http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2005-07-07 Thread DElliott%SWS




FYI All,

I would say that the below site makes the skinnerbox site obsolete since
all the skinnerbox site does is to serve the pdfs, slowly I might add.
Using the below link you can download *ALL* of them to your hard drive at
once in a few zip files then use the web based interface to access them.
No affiliation.

  ftp://Diesel:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

Dan
82 300D-T 82kmi




RE: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Potter, Tom E
I definitely suggest that you get new bolts AND WASHERS. As I remember,
the washer on the big bolt is deformed, and a new one is the only way to
get the proper retaining tension. All new bolts and washers (including
the big washer) cost me about $20 from the dealer.

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:34 PM
To: Harry Watkins; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D


...best found from a salvage engine.



RE: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Potter, Tom E
It is a common problem. I am not sure if it is a design problem or occurs after 
a PO (or their mechanic) failed to torque the bolts properly. The large bolt is 
VERY difficult to torque, as you must find some method to keep the crankshaft 
from turning whist you apply the torque. I would suggest an annual check of the 
dampener bolt torque.

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:29 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D


I'm starting to see atrend here - should anyone with a 616 engine
tighten or replace the bolts as a preventative measure? How many miles
on the engines when this occured?

On 7/6/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Happened to my 81 also.  
-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL 280k miles
'81 240D, 185k miles
'78 450SLC 80k miles

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RE: [MBZ] nothing to see here, move on

2005-07-07 Thread Potter, Tom E
I worked on a few of those Jensen Interceptors. Real hot rods: Chrysler
440, Holley four-barrel, light body. I knew a doctor here in Houston
that had 10 of them. 

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve MacSween
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nothing to see here, move on


Yeah, very true, but you always hear those urban legends about divorce
sales, etc.

I used to want to own a car like that *someday* but I seem to have come
to
my senses I actually wanted a Jensen Interceptor. There is some
little
old guy with one stuck in a dry storage barn somewhere around here
(along
with a heap of other assorted rare cars). At last count about 20 of us
were
waiting for him to push off this mortal, etc., to get our grubby paws on
them.

So far he has managed to outlive my enthusiasm for the Jensen folly.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks too good to be true -- --
 
 On 7/7/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/82829455.html  -74 Maserati $7k
 
 DROL
 
 


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[MBZ] Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread John Robbins

Shouldn't they be busy fighting CRIME grrr...

http://www.tintcenter.com/news/187.html

John




Re: [MBZ] Mono valve???

2005-07-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
All computer controled auto accessories are equipped with a thought
process.  The ACC saw you comming out of the store, decided the jig was
up, and will play nice for a while.  Unfortunately, they can also read
maps and calculate distance.  So if you dont take the LED's with you,
about the time you cross the 100 mile border, the ACC will begin to act
up again.

Be prepared.. Take the blister packs..

Richard
K4PKV

--- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I bought the LEDs to wire in and see what's going on. They are still
 sitting on the table in the Radio Shack blister packs. I haven't dug
 into the wiring diagram yet to see which wire to connect them to.
 However, the ACC is now working just fine! We're preparing for a trip
 to Mexico next week, so I doubt that I'll get to it till we come
 back.
 I'll report progress as it occurs.
 Thanks to everyone for the help and suggestions.
 
 On 7/5/05, Richard Hattaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Good luck to Don, maybe he will have a report for us on his
 activities
  this weekend with the LED's etc.
  
  Richard
  
 
 -- 
 OK Don, KD5NRO
 Norman, OK 
 '87 300SDL
 '81 240D
 '78 450SLC
 


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RE: [MBZ] MityVac

2005-07-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel

Need a source and specific model number for a
high-capacity Mity Vac, preferably one with a hand
pump. Need the 8+qt capacity for OM 617 oil change.

Can't find it in the (new) archive.

Thanks,
Karl


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RE: [MBZ] MityVac

2005-07-07 Thread Royce Engler
Not sure what you are looking for...My MityVac is a small handheld device
used to check vacuum lines.  I suspect you are thinking of the $2 Oil
Sucker.

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:25 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: RE: [MBZ] MityVac



Need a source and specific model number for a
high-capacity Mity Vac, preferably one with a hand
pump. Need the 8+qt capacity for OM 617 oil change.

Can't find it in the (new) archive.

Thanks,
Karl


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deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid - Frank Zappa



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[MBZ] 240D crank pulley

2005-07-07 Thread Wilton Strickland
Came off my 80 240D at 65k.  6 small bolts in it.  Some came loose; others
broke.  Messed up belts, fan, radiator  and lower hose.

Wilton




Re: [MBZ] http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2005-07-07 Thread stevebailey3373
Trying to open this I get  550  Passive mode not allowed on this server. I am 
using Mozilla Firefox. Is this just a setting to get to this site?

Steve

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





FYI All,

I would say that the below site makes the skinnerbox site obsolete since
all the skinnerbox site does is to serve the pdfs, slowly I might add.
Using the below link you can download *ALL* of them to your hard drive at
once in a few zip files then use the web based interface to access them.
No affiliation.

  ftp://Diesel:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

Dan
82 300D-T 82kmi


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Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing problems on my '72 250C

2005-07-07 Thread Joseph Shaw




Do you have a fuel pressure regulator in line after the fuel pump. These
carbs only need a few pounds of fuel pressure and the floats may not be 
able

to shut off anything over 4 or 5 lbs pressure.
A proper fuel pump ( not electric ) might be your first cure. Check your
choke flaps to see if they're working right.



I don't have a regulator after the pump-if I can get one, what PSI do I want 
one for, or one set to?


Thanks!

Michael





RE: [MBZ] MityVac

2005-07-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel
Think I found it:

http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=MIT7400source=frooglekw=MIT7400

I suppose I could just use my vacuum pump hooked to a
carboy for a trap, but I'd prefer something tidy that
does not require a power source so I can do the job on
the street and haul straight to service station for
disposal.

thx -
kw
--- Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not sure what you are looking for...My MityVac is a
 small handheld device
 used to check vacuum lines.  I suspect you are
 thinking of the $2 Oil
 Sucker.
 
 Royce Engler
 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Karl Wittnebel
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:25 AM
 To: Mercedes mailing list
 Subject: RE: [MBZ] MityVac
 
 
 
 Need a source and specific model number for a
 high-capacity Mity Vac, preferably one with a hand
 pump. Need the 8+qt capacity for OM 617 oil change.
 
 Can't find it in the (new) archive.
 
 Thanks,
 Karl
 


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Re: [MBZ] http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2005-07-07 Thread John Ervine

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Trying to open this I get  550  Passive mode not allowed on this server. I am 
using Mozilla Firefox. Is this just a setting to get to this site?


Unlike Internet Exploder, I'm unaware of any option in FireFox to change between passive and active FTP transfers.  So, 
either use IE, or use an actual FTP program instead of a web browser.  WS_FTP is great, so is CuteFTP, and there are 
tons of free FTP clients out there.


--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 265+kmi
1980 300TD 163+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi



Re: [MBZ] http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2005-07-07 Thread stevebailey3373
I don't understand. I tried opening explorer and pasting in the ftp. then added 
ws and still no go. Can  you give me more information, or steer me in the 
direction to learn what to do?  I do not get it.

Steve

David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trying to open this I get  550  Passive mode not allowed on this
 server. I am using Mozilla Firefox. Is this just a setting to get to
 this site?

You'll have to use a real FTP client, not a web browser.  I don't 
think Firefox supports active mode, and the person who hosts that site 
has disabled passive mode.  If you're running Windows, WSFTP is one option.


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Re: [MBZ] http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2005-07-07 Thread David Brodbeck

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't understand. I tried opening explorer and pasting in the ftp.
then added ws and still no go. Can  you give me more information, or
steer me in the direction to learn what to do?  I do not get it.


WS_FTP: http://www.ipswitch.com/downloads/index.html
CuteFTP: http://www.cuteftp.com/products/ftp_clients.asp

Grab one of those and use it to access the site, instead of a web browser.



[MBZ] Thanks for all the help on my 250C!

2005-07-07 Thread Joseph Shaw



I just wanted to write in at this time and thank everyone that has chimed in 
and helped with suggestions on my 250C trouble.


It has gotten a bit frustrating for me, and having some new outlooks have 
helped.


I am going to start in this afternoon on some of your new approaches and see 
where that gets me.


Here is a summary of what I know about the car:

'72 250C w/50K original miles.

Dual Zenith carbs-just rebuilt by me.  I am no pro, but have probably 
rebuilt 30 or so carbs in the past ten or twelve years-mostly simple things 
like old Hollys, but also some Carters, whatever an MG had on it (I think 
they were some kind of Zenith, too), something off of a Renault, and 
whatever was on a '72 dart with a 318?


Sat for app 4-5 years before I purchased it in January.

Supposedly ran fine when parked prior to that.

I had it running shortly after bringing it home, but once I had it running 
and holding idle, it would move under its own power, but only get up to 
about 20-25 MPH, and then would plateau.  It would not stop running, not 
surge, not cough or sputter, but simply would not go any faster-it actually, 
I think, once got up to enough speed that it kicked into third on the auto 
transmission, but never went any faster.


Not long after this I started having trouble with it even staying running.

I will admit that, at first, I was trying to run it on the old fuel in its 
tank.  I since began running it on an aux tank of fresh gas.


I just rebuilt the carbs in the past three weeks to see if this helped.

I can now get it to start, but have to use a spritz of ether or a dribble of 
gas in the carb to get it to start.  Once running, it sounds pretty good.


However, once running, it also seems to die after about 20-30 seconds at 
best.  If I try to restart it will TRY to start, but won't quite go.  If I 
reprime it with ether/gas, it will start again a few times, then won't 
(flooding?).


I know that the wire to one cut-off selenoid that screws into the base of 
the carbs is off, and is not of a length that I can easily repair it.  The 
other is still on and attached.


SO, today I am going to:

Change the condensor
Check the ignition module beneath the battery tray
Look for two boxes and vacuum diaphragms on the left (passenger) inner 
fender and see how  they look.

Check the points gap and the points.


Any other suggestions for right now-just trying to update and summarize so 
that everyone knows what has been done and what is being done.


Thanks!

J. Michael Shaw, II, D.C.
(478)288-0420





Re: [MBZ] http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2005-07-07 Thread John Ervine

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't understand. I tried opening explorer and pasting in the ftp. then added 
ws and still no go. Can  you give me more information, or steer me in the 
direction to learn what to do?  I do not get it.


Tools - Internet Options - Advanced - check the box for Enable Folder View for FTP Sites.  Doing that forces IE 
into active FTP, regardless of the whether the box for Use Passive FTP is checked or not.


Better yet, get a real FTP client:

http://www.download.com/3150-2160_4-0-1-0.html?qt=author=titlename=desc=dlcount=daysback=swlink=gfiletype=os=128li=49dlsize=ca=

And in case that linewraps:

http://tinyurl.com/b7jy6

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RE: [MBZ] MityVac

2005-07-07 Thread Royce Engler
First time I've seen that one.  I have the MityVac Silverline for use in
checking vacuum lines.  It's been a solid performer, so I suspect the rest
of their stuff is good also.

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:00 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: RE: [MBZ] MityVac


Think I found it:

http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=MIT7400source=froogle;
kw=MIT7400

I suppose I could just use my vacuum pump hooked to a
carboy for a trap, but I'd prefer something tidy that
does not require a power source so I can do the job on
the street and haul straight to service station for
disposal.

thx -
kw
--- Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not sure what you are looking for...My MityVac is a
 small handheld device
 used to check vacuum lines.  I suspect you are
 thinking of the $2 Oil
 Sucker.

 Royce Engler
 1985 300TD Turbo 265K

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 Subject: RE: [MBZ] MityVac



 Need a source and specific model number for a
 high-capacity Mity Vac, preferably one with a hand
 pump. Need the 8+qt capacity for OM 617 oil change.

 Can't find it in the (new) archive.

 Thanks,
 Karl



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Re: [MBZ] Now THIS is a dog

2005-07-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Wow.  How bad are BMWs compared to Mercedes anyway?  I have seldom
seen a comparably aged M-B in such a sorry state.



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Re: [MBZ] Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
I totally sympathesize with LE on this issue.  It's scary not to be
able to look inside at some perp who might be packing a weapon...


On 7/7/05, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Shouldn't they be busy fighting CRIME grrr...
 
 http://www.tintcenter.com/news/187.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Now THIS is a dog

2005-07-07 Thread Jeff Zedic
IMHO, I find that BMW do not stand the test oif time anywhere near as 
wsell as MBs do. I often tell people that they seem to be a 5-7 year 
car. After that they fall apart. I should also say that the ones made in 
the last 10 years or less seem to be much better... either that or 
they just don't LOOK old to me..hmmm.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D



Re: [MBZ] Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread David Brodbeck

Loren Faeth wrote:
tinted glass is used by druggies, gangs and other criminals to hide what 
they are doing.  It should be outlawed everywhere.  I have nothing to 
hide.  I don't even like tinted glass.  Back when glass was clear, 
truckers and others always gave a truckers wave.  Now you can't see it 
because the glass is not clear.  Roads were friendlier when you could 
see the wave.


Where I live, you're not allowed to tint the windshield or the front 
side windows.  The rest are fair game.  That seems like a reasonable 
compromise.  Having had a van with a dark tinted back window, though, I 
don't think I'd do it again.  It made it really difficult to see while 
backing up at night.




Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread John Robbins
Maybe I should clarify my gripe... tintint law itself isn't a problem. 
The way that it is being enforced I disagree with.  Some states have cards 
with text of varying level of contrast on them.  Based on which line is 
readable you can tell the tint level (or at least legal or not... been a 
while since I read about that).  The law went into effect with no notice, 
and no grace period. Nobody has the machines to certify, etc.  Nobody can 
get their regular inspection sticker now because the regular inspection 
sticker can't be given out if the tint sticker is given out, etc.


Basically its overkill for the level the problem is...

John



Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
The tint law has been in effect in NC for years.  It is largely ignored
by the officers, however.  My 300TD was a Georgia car, with windows
that were darn near black.  I drove it that way for a year, with a
state inspection sticker on the window, and was not stopped.  But I
decided not to press my luck, and removed the tint.  That was a *JOB*
btw.

I'm not a law enforcement officer either, but understand their point in
spades.  For the folks who want a cooler car in the parking lot, get a
cover.  JMO

Richard

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fighting crime?, like folks driving too aggresively and cutting off
 people 
 and speeding through school zones endangering kids, and other CRIME?
 Put 
 yourself in their shoes and make a traffic stop on some jackass
 driving like an idiot 
 with 4 or 5 others idiots in the car who just about ran over YOUR
 mother. 
 Then walk up next to that car without being able to see in and see
 the dangers 
 inside. Some type of reasonable compromise should be reachable. A
 limit on the 
 amount of tint is reasonable.
 
 Ken
 (not a law enforcement officer)
 
 
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 Shouldn't they be busy fighting CRIME grrr...
 
 http://www.tintcenter.com/news/187.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread John Robbins

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Fighting crime?, like folks driving too aggresively and cutting off people
and speeding through school zones endangering kids, and other CRIME? Put
yourself in their shoes and make a traffic stop on some jackass driving like an 
idiot
with 4 or 5 others idiots in the car who just about ran over YOUR mother.
Then walk up next to that car without being able to see in and see the dangers


Well said. I wish cops would go after the type of people you described 
more than just speeders.  I also agree that it is reasonable to have a 
tint limit...



inside. Some type of reasonable compromise should be reachable. A limit on the
amount of tint is reasonable.


Yes. But it should not be so poorly implemented.  It is pretty easy to 
tell if tint is illegally dark... ticket and move on.  Yearly 
certification is not IMO the way it should be done and what I was griping 
about.


John



Re: [MBZ] http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2005-07-07 Thread stevebailey3373
I have tried to use smartFTP, ipswitch WS_FTP, and internet explorer w/the ftp 
box checked and still no luck. Do I type in the full address, 
ftp://Diesel:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
and then hit go? I did this in ipswitch WS-FTP and it did not connect to the 
server. Same thing with internet explorer. Additionally, if I have smartFTP 
open, and I click on the link, it tries to open the server but fails. What else 
could be wrong?

Steve

John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't understand. I tried opening explorer and pasting in the ftp. then 
 added ws and still no go. Can  you give me more information, or steer me in 
 the direction to learn what to do?  I do not get it.

Tools - Internet Options - Advanced - check the box for Enable Folder View 
for FTP Sites.  Doing that forces IE 
into active FTP, regardless of the whether the box for Use Passive FTP is 
checked or not.

Better yet, get a real FTP client:



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Re: [MBZ] http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2005-07-07 Thread David Brodbeck

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have tried to use smartFTP, ipswitch WS_FTP, and internet explorer
w/the ftp box checked and still no luck. Do I type in the full
address, ftp://Diesel:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ and then hit go? I
did this in ipswitch WS-FTP and it did not connect to the server.
Same thing with internet explorer. Additionally, if I have smartFTP
open, and I click on the link, it tries to open the server but fails.
What else could be wrong?


In WS_FTP, you may need to break up that URL and enter the pieces 
separately.


For the hostname (or server, I forget what WS_FTP calls it) put:
telshena.dyndns.org

For the username, put:
Diesel

For the password, put:
diesel



Re: [MBZ] Bumper sticker we all need

2005-07-07 Thread Christopher McCann
While on vacation I saw a VW TDI with a Diesel
Inside sticker ala Intel Inside and a long sentence
in German. I pulled up next to him at a light and
asked what it said...Real cars don't have spark
plugs! I laughed heartily. His friend made it for
him.

Christopher

--- David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 redghost wrote:
  http://www.prankplace.com/stickers9.htm
  
  It is the ultipenultimate next to next to last on
 the page
 
 I saw a trailer the other day with a bumper sticker
 that said, Real 
 trucks don't have spark plugs.
 
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[MBZ] price of diesel...interesting theory...

2005-07-07 Thread Christopher McCann
I know these threads get tiring, but I am still in my
first year of dieseling and I recall from this past
winter the mantra Diesel is always higher in the
winter because of demand for heating oil. Gas is
higher in the summer becuase of the travel season
Fall agricultural use also uses alot of diesel it was
said...can't see, personally, how it's more than
planting in winter - it should be less. Plow, till,
rotovate, plant, cultivate, etc...harvest is nothing
in comparison.

ANYWAY, What the hell is the story now?

From what I know, there are no diesel refineries,
there are oil refineries and all sorts of stuff gets
separated out. It can only be two things, it seems:
1. Higher demand. Well, I doubt that as train shipping
has jumped substantially (this happens in uncertain
economic times and confirmed by my friend who works
for one of the big rail freight lines) and trains use
ALOT less diesel to move the same freight as trucks
would. Is trucking up so much to offset this and
create higher demand?
2. Conspiracy (unproveable speculation here). The oil
companies remember that the '70's oil crisis caused a
jump in the sale of diesel vehicles. It's happening
again. Many new diesel models introduced. Front cover
of local car mag advertized the diesel Passat Wagon at
30-whatever mpg, etc. Fed gov just passed a $4,000 (!)
tax credit for the purchase of a new diesel vehicle.

The oil co's didn't care in the 70's/80's as they sold
gas and diesel. WHAT IS DIFFERENT NOW is that BioD is
becoming increasingly popular (log way to go, but no
doubt it is happening). I am wondering if they are not
keeping the cost high to DISSUADE the purchase of
diesel vehicles which in a few years might be able to
fill up on BioD for less than dinoD, which will mean
$0 from THAT customer to big oil (unless they are in
the BioD game too (I would be if I were them)).

In Germany BioD is the CHEAPEST fuel available...so
with economy of scale, price will come way down. (Euro
fuels are so high becuase they are about 70% tax).

Thoughts on the conspiracy theory?

P.S. THe old 240D (new to me) is working great.
Fun...going from the SD to it is like driving a
Mercedes go-cart...peppier than I thought (W115 might
be the reason).

Thanks.

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[MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread Bucks2
I don't think it's as easy to really be fair about the amount of tint that is 
legal. I think at night it is more difficult than during the day. Obviously 
the cost to equip each officer with the light standard device would be 
prohibitive too. 

Were I in your legislature I would have included the test in the regular 
inspection. If you want to make money doing the regular inspection, you must 
invest in the new device. Then, everyone is doing the same thing. 

I also believe that this subject didn't come up in the legislature because 
they were bored and looking for something to make a new law about. No doubt the 
LE lobby made it a priority for thier efforts. Why? Probably because it was 
getting out of hand. Without being too much of a bleeding heart, I can't 
imagine 
stopping some of the jerks I see on our roadways in the middle of the night, 
in the middle of nowhere, with back up even only 5 minutes away. That takes 
guts. Give them every chance to go home to their families after each shift. 

How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only have 
emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some counties. A 
full 
inspection is only done in certain instances, and that by the State Patrol 
only. Is your regular inspection done by any business who gets a license to? 

Ken

In a message dated 7/7/2005 10:13:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fighting crime?, like folks driving too aggresively and cutting off people
 and speeding through school zones endangering kids, and other CRIME? Put
 yourself in their shoes and make a traffic stop on some jackass driving 
like an idiot
 with 4 or 5 others idiots in the car who just about ran over YOUR mother.
 Then walk up next to that car without being able to see in and see the 
dangers

Well said. I wish cops would go after the type of people you described 
more than just speeders.  I also agree that it is reasonable to have a 
tint limit...

 inside. Some type of reasonable compromise should be reachable. A limit on 
the
 amount of tint is reasonable.

Yes. But it should not be so poorly implemented.  It is pretty easy to 
tell if tint is illegally dark... ticket and move on.  Yearly 
certification is not IMO the way it should be done and what I was griping 
about.

John


[MBZ] Cost of Dist Condensor

2005-07-07 Thread Joseph Shaw


I just went to two of my local parts houses.  One said they couldn;t even 
get the condensor for my car ('72 250C), and the other said they could have 
one here tomorrow morning.  However, the cost for it was $25.00, basically.  
Does that sound right?  I thought someone on this list that recommended I 
try changing it said it would only be about $5.00.


I have the extra money, but don't want to pay it if it is ridiculously 
improportionatley expensive.


What should it cost?

Thanks!

Michael





Re: [MBZ] Cost of Dist Condensor

2005-07-07 Thread OK Don
Call Rusty - (800) 741-5252

On 7/7/05, Joseph Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I just went to two of my local parts houses.  One said they couldn;t even
 get the condensor for my car ('72 250C), and the other said they could have
 one here tomorrow morning.  However, the cost for it was $25.00, basically.
 Does that sound right?  I thought someone on this list that recommended I
 try changing it said it would only be about $5.00.
 
 I have the extra money, but don't want to pay it if it is ridiculously
 improportionatley expensive.
 
 What should it cost?
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cost of Dist Condensor

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:46:19AM -0700, Joseph Shaw wrote:
 I just went to two of my local parts houses.  One said they couldn;t even 
 get the condensor for my car ('72 250C), and the other said they could have 
 one here tomorrow morning.  However, the cost for it was $25.00, basically. 
 Does that sound right?  I thought someone on this list that recommended I 
 try changing it said it would only be about $5.00.

Rusty lists two possibilities based on engine number. One is $25 and
one is $14 according to his website. I'd give him a call at the number Don
listed to make sure you get the right one. 

K



Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread David Brodbeck

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only 
have emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some 
counties. A full inspection is only done in certain instances, and that 
by the State Patrol only.


I'm gonna ask, since I might be moving out there soon...would my 
non-working parking brake cause my car to fail inspection in WA?  I'm 
not sure yet whether I'll bring it or sell it before I go, but if I 
decide to bring it that would be a concern.




Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread John Robbins

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I don't think it's as easy to really be fair about the amount of tint that is
legal. I think at night it is more difficult than during the day. Obviously
the cost to equip each officer with the light standard device would be
prohibitive too.


At night I think if there is any tint its going to be pretty hard to see 
in...  I still think its possible to use the business card light dectector 
method as its cheap and should be accurate enough.



Were I in your legislature I would have included the test in the regular
inspection. If you want to make money doing the regular inspection, you must
invest in the new device. Then, everyone is doing the same thing.


Thats what they did... only problem is nobody makes money on the 
inspections... see below.



I also believe that this subject didn't come up in the legislature because
they were bored and looking for something to make a new law about. No doubt the
LE lobby made it a priority for thier efforts. Why? Probably because it was
getting out of hand. Without being too much of a bleeding heart, I can't imagine
stopping some of the jerks I see on our roadways in the middle of the night,
in the middle of nowhere, with back up even only 5 minutes away. That takes
guts. Give them every chance to go home to their families after each shift.


I'm not LE, but my Mom and Step-dad are... the topic has never come up at 
dinner, but I've never heard them gripe about tinted windows... I'm not 
saying it wasn't a problem, or couldn't be a problem...



How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only have
emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some counties. A full
inspection is only done in certain instances, and that by the State Patrol
only. Is your regular inspection done by any business who gets a license to?


Our inspections are yearly, all counties, mandatory, etc. Cost $5. They 
consist of checking the windshield for cracks in the line of sight, all 
exterior lights function properly, horn works, and windshield wipers work.


Done by any business that gets the license...

John



Re: [MBZ] price of diesel...interesting theory...

2005-07-07 Thread BenzBarn
That's so much bull.

I grow corn and right now the price for a bushel is only $2.60 CDN.  Do you
know how many boxes of corn flakes one bushel can make?

If there's anything is this country more out of control it's the price
difference paid to producers compared to what consumers pay. There's less
than 25 cents worth of corn is a large box that costs over 4 bucks.




Re: [MBZ] price of diesel...interesting theory...

2005-07-07 Thread Christopher McCann
Reminds me of a comment my dairy farmer father-in-law
made once. When the price he's paid for milk goes up,
it goes up in the store. WHen the price he is paid
goes down, even substantially over long periods, the
price in the store remains the same.

Christopher

--- BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's so much bull.
 
 I grow corn and right now the price for a bushel is
 only $2.60 CDN.  Do you
 know how many boxes of corn flakes one bushel can
 make?
 
 If there's anything is this country more out of
 control it's the price
 difference paid to producers compared to what
 consumers pay. There's less
 than 25 cents worth of corn is a large box that
 costs over 4 bucks.
 
 
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WA state emissions testing (Was: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...)

2005-07-07 Thread David Brodbeck

Kevin wrote:

On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 04:35:01PM -0400, David Brodbeck wrote:
Good to know.  What about emissions?  How strict are they on 
tampering?  Would a missing ALDA cap be a disqualification?



From what I recall, emissions testing on diesels varies by county. The 
county that seattle is in (King?) required testing from what I recall, but 
they were more interested in opacity than anything. I'd wager that a missing

cap isn't something that will cause problems provided they don't have a
reason to go hunting. My 190D, being a 2.2 five speed, doesn't have an ALDA,
and was registered in a county that did not do emissions testing on diesels.

You should probably tell the list where you are planning on moving so that
someone from that county can give you more specific details.


It'd be King county.



Re: [MBZ] Cost of Dist Condensor

2005-07-07 Thread Joseph Shaw




Joseph Shaw wrote:

 I just went to two of my local parts houses.  One said they couldn;t 
even
 get the condensor for my car ('72 250C), and the other said they could 
have
 one here tomorrow morning.  However, the cost for it was $25.00, 
basically.
 Does that sound right?  I thought someone on this list that recommended 
I

 try changing it said it would only be about $5.00.


Except for the mounting bracket, condensors is condensors. You might see if
there's a VW part that fits.



That was kind of my theory-which is why I thought I would try my local parts 
houses.  I figured, There are only so many levels of 'condensing' that can 
possibly need to be done!  And I thought maybe some same level condensor 
was used for something more common.  But, of course, not according to the 
books!!!


Anyway, I have looked at Rusty'a site, and there are still two options, so I 
have tried to call him about four times now and only gotten the 
machine-during his announced hours.  SO I guess this is not meant to be for 
this week's project list!


Thanks for the suggestion, though!

Michael





Re: [MBZ] price of diesel...interesting theory...

2005-07-07 Thread Rick Knoble
Same with oil. The refiners are making windfall profits. The future price of
a barrel of crude goes up on a the market at noon, by two the price of fuel
at the pump has gone up. We the consumers are hostage to the monopoly so we
pay up. The price of fuel goes to $2.50 then drops to $2.30 and we think we
are getting a bargain. Then the price of fuel goes to $2.70 and drops to
$2.50 and again we think we are getting a deal. The actual cost of the fuel
we are using now was probably $40 a barrel. Eventually, this should bring
about inflation or the perception of inflation, causing interest rates to
rise. Which will depress the economy even further. Enough doom and gloom.
Back to diesel content...
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
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 made once. When the price he's paid for milk goes up,
 it goes up in the store. WHen the price he is paid
 goes down, even substantially over long periods, the
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  control it's the price
  difference paid to producers compared to what
  consumers pay. There's less
  than 25 cents worth of corn is a large box that
  costs over 4 bucks.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cost of Dist Condensor

2005-07-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
Condensor?  Condensors don' fit no stinkin' diesel.. (c:

Are you sure it is bad?  I guess I have never had a bad one in years,
including the one on my 1946 Champion outboard motor.  

I would do some *crazy* things before I would pay even 5 bux for a
condensor.  I cannot say for sure, but think I remember the values in
the 0.05 MFD range ?? Anybody got good data for this number?  If they
are in that magnitude, I think I would just opt for a disk ceramic
replacement with appropriate shrink tubing from Radio Shack.  It would
lay down right in the distributor housing and disappear...

Find someone with a capacitor tester.. my favorite is the Air
Conditioning guy.. he has one to measure starting caps on compressors..
or any older ham you might know.. and acutally measure the thing.  

'course if you are trying for originality, then .. maybe you will get
by for $14 (c:  ..

Richard



--- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Joseph Shaw wrote:
  
  I just went to two of my local parts houses.  One said they
 couldn;t even
  get the condensor for my car ('72 250C), and the other said they
 could have
  one here tomorrow morning.  However, the cost for it was $25.00,
 basically.
  Does that sound right?  I thought someone on this list that
 recommended I
  try changing it said it would only be about $5.00.
  
 
 Except for the mounting bracket, condensors is condensors. You might
 see if
 there's a VW part that fits.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cost of Dist Condensor

2005-07-07 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 7/7/2005 11:46:45 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I just  went to two of my local parts houses.  One said they couldn;t even  
get the condensor for my car ('72 250C), and the other said they could  have 
one here tomorrow morning.  However, the cost for it was $25.00,  basically.  
Does that sound right?  I thought someone on this  list that recommended I 
try changing it said it would only be about  $5.00.



I guestimated $5, based on the last one I bought was 98 cents.  I  should 
know better.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 136 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing problems on my '72 250C

2005-07-07 Thread Joseph Shaw



Okay-cannot seem to get a condensor for now.  Cannot seem to access any of 
the connectors to the ignition module under the battery tray for now.


I went out and looked, and yes, to whomever asked, there are two small black 
boxes and two small vacuum diaphragm style modules on the passenger inner 
fender.  Underneath these were two small vacuum hoses that were going to 
nothing.  One of the vacuum modules had a vacuum hose connected, while the 
other had an open port on its top, and two open ones underneath.


Before doing anything, I hooked up a CLEAN fuel supply, and tried to start 
it-no go on its own.  I gave it a spritz of starting fluid and it roared to 
life, and sounded pretty good for about 10 seconds, then began to dwindle 
and died after it struggled to stay alive under my feathering of the 
accelerator pedal for about five more seconds.  I tried to start it again-no 
go, tried to open the choke setting slightly-had it almost completely 
closed.  No start.  Tried it like this with starter fluid.  No start.  
Attached the two vacuum lines.  No start.  Tried this set up with starter 
fluid.  No start.  Switched vacuum lines and tried again.  No start.  Closed 
choke back down, tried.  No.  Starter fluid.  No.


So after the initial run, which was longer than it would have lasted with 
just the starter fluid, it would not start even when primed with starter 
fluid.


So I am back to thinking that ther ehas to be a flooding issue.  Anyone 
agree, or am I just an idiot?


Thanks!

Michael





Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing problems on my '72 250C

2005-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Joseph Shaw wrote:
 So I am back to thinking that there has to be a flooding issue.  

Until this episode, I was thinking non-delivery. (especially since
you can usually get a brief run from fueling with starting fluid)



Re: [MBZ] Cost of Dist Condensor

2005-07-07 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 04:30:56PM -0500, Potter, Tom  E wrote:
 I'm not an electrical expert, but I agree. As long as the capacitance is
 within the same specifications, any condenser should work. The problem
 is in determining the capacitance specifications. Better yet, throw the
 points and condenser away and get an electronic trigger (Compufire,
 Petronix, et. al.).

This is the best solution, IMNQSHO.

 How do you know your condenser is malfunctioning. Unless your points are
 burning badly in a short period or you have a hot start problem, the
 condenser is fine. I know: everyone changes them when they change
 points. I do not; I rarely change condensers. My points last as long as
 those that have the condenser changed.

I can't remember the last time I changed points on anything. The jeep has
at least 35k on its set, and is just starting to get a hint of spark scatter :)

K



[MBZ] FTP SERVER NOTICE!!

2005-07-07 Thread Tarek Elshenawy
To all list members...

Today someone on the list accessed the FTP server I have set up. Instead of
logging in only once, the user decided to log in 25 times to start
simultaneous downloads. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated. If it
happens again, not only will the users IP address be banned permanently, but
the server will be shut down for good. I am hesitant to set up a limit
because I remember what a headache it was with Mickey's server. Please only
log in once and have only one download at a time. If you want to download
multiple files, please queue them up and be patient. The computer is not a
dedicated server and I simply do not have the bandwidth to support such a
large amount of file transfer.

Whoever this is, don't fuck it up for everyone:

Name: eye5.tribune.com
IP Address: 163.192.21.45
Location: Chicago (41.883N,  87.622W)
Network: NETBLK-TRIBUNE

Registrant:
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Tarek Elshenawy





[MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...

2005-07-07 Thread Bucks2
If you got inspected, and if they checked it, yes they would make you fix it. 
I've only taken one vehicle through the process and it was pretty basic. They 
checked the Vin # on the post and the vin stamped under the hood. Thanks for 
stopping by, have a nice day. 

That's not to say on a slow day they might not check more, but it was a 
simple process that I observed. I wouldn't worry too much about it. 

The reason I needed inspected was the car had been part of a bankruptcy 
proceeding and didn't have a proper title. When I brought a car in from out of 
state, twice now, there was no inspection at all. Since the titles were in 
order 
they simply transferred them to a WA state title in the office with no other 
problems. 

Ken


In a message dated 7/7/2005 2:05:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only 
 have emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some 
 counties. A full inspection is only done in certain instances, and that 
 by the State Patrol only.

I'm gonna ask, since I might be moving out there soon...would my 
non-working parking brake cause my car to fail inspection in WA?  I'm 
not sure yet whether I'll bring it or sell it before I go, but if I 
decide to bring it that would be a concern.


[MBZ] Re: What......

2005-07-07 Thread Bucks2
That explains it. No money in the inspections so why invest in the machinery. 
Sounds like it's gonna suck to have ANY tinted windows. My car has the tint 
because it came from California. I wouldn't have done it myself, but the tint 
has kind of grown on me. I like to look of the black car with the black windows 
now. 

Ken


In a message dated 7/7/2005 2:05:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Our inspections are yearly, all counties, mandatory, etc. Cost $5. They 
consist of checking the windshield for cracks in the line of sight, all 
exterior lights function properly, horn works, and windshield wipers work.

Done by any business that gets the license...

John


[MBZ] Re: Cost of Dist Condensor

2005-07-07 Thread Bucks2
Actually condensors have a value that is important to prevent point failure. 
The old timers actually looked at how the points were wearing and would adjust 
the condensor value to prevent transfer from one contact to the other. If you 
knew the value of the stock condensor you could find a cheap alternate to 
replace the obscenely priced MB product. 

Ken


In a message dated 7/7/2005 2:05:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cost of Dist Condensor
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Joseph Shaw wrote:
 
 I just went to two of my local parts houses.  One said they couldn;t even
 get the condensor for my car ('72 250C), and the other said they could have
 one here tomorrow morning.  However, the cost for it was $25.00, basically.
 Does that sound right?  I thought someone on this list that recommended I
 try changing it said it would only be about $5.00.
 

Except for the mounting bracket, condensors is condensors. You might see if
there's a VW part that fits.


Re: [MBZ] Re: WA state emissions testing

2005-07-07 Thread JabbaHursty

the old days of georgia inspection were the best

when i moved here, my car immediately failed georgia emissions.  I 
explained to the guy at the major chain muffler shop how confusing this was 
to me and he told me not to worry but to go to a certain address with $50.


so i drove to this place and told them my story.  the fella asked me for 
$50.  i gave it to him.  he gave me a sticker.  i was now legal!


those glory days are long gone, my friends, but what days they were

BTW, when i moved here a decade ago, many cars on the road weren't even 
tagged.  alas, that has changed as well  :(



At 06:00 PM 7/7/2005, you wrote:
As I understand the rules King, Pierce and Snohomish counties check 
emissions. Only portions of Pierce and Sno, are required so there it 
depends where you are living. The emissions check has a standard you must 
meet. If you don't meet the standard then you must spend a certain amount 
of money on repairs at a certified repair facility. After that you get 
reinspected. If you don't meet the spec then, you still get your cert, 
simply because you spent the money to fix it. As I understand it you 
cannot get the exemption for work done yourself, it has to be a certified 
facility.


Ken


In a message dated 7/7/2005 2:05:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WA state emissions testing (Was: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright
ideawas this...)
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Kevin wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 04:35:01PM -0400, David Brodbeck wrote:
Good to know.  What about emissions?  How strict are they on
tampering?  Would a missing ALDA cap be a disqualification?


From what I recall, emissions testing on diesels varies by county. The
 county that seattle is in (King?) required testing from what I recall, but
 they were more interested in opacity than anything. I'd wager that a 
missing

 cap isn't something that will cause problems provided they don't have a
 reason to go hunting. My 190D, being a 2.2 five speed, doesn't have an 
ALDA,
 and was registered in a county that did not do emissions testing on 
diesels.


 You should probably tell the list where you are planning on moving so that
 someone from that county can give you more specific details.

It'd be King county.

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