[MBZ] 1974 240D
Anyone interested in a 1974 240D, I think has around 70-90K. Body in good shape. Located in Philly area. I test drove it. Some minor things but with a little tlc could be a very good daily driver. Real nice condition for a 115. If you are interested email me direct and I will hook you up. I was going to by but settled on a 123 chassis four banger. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability? Thanks - I will try the local sources. On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Mobil NZ's synthetic oil recommendations
Hi team Just when you hoped the synthetic oil thread had died... Here's the Mobil 1 oil and drain interval recommendation I received from Mobil NZ yesterday. Unfortunately, we do not have the Mobil 1 Truck SUV 5W-40 in NZ or Australia. Our closest would be Mobil 1 5W-50. The information I have about your vehicle is that you need to use an oil that meets Mercedes Benz spec 229.1, which this mobil 1 does. Being an old car, the previous service history would have a bearing as to how good a choice Mobil 1 is. Mobil 1 cleans better than most oils, so as long as the car is sound in condition, Mobil 1 will be fine. Things to look out for are oil consumption. As far as oil drains are concerned, change the first one at 5000, to get rid of any muck Mobil 1 has managed to clean off, then go to 1 km's. Regards MOBIL LUBELINE From what you guys say, Mobil 1 5W-50 would be suitable for very cold conditions. At my end of NZ, however, our temps range from minus 3 to 5 C (rarely) to +30 C (occasionally). A very equable climate. The other oil option you mention (Mobil 15W-50) does not meet MB specs according to the information on Mobil NZ's website ( http://www.mobil.com/New_Zealand-English/Lubes/PDS/ GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_15W-50.asp) but it meets 229.1 on www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html. Huh? BTW I mentioned this synthetic oil discussion to my highly and widely respected MB specialist mechanic yesterday. He wasn't enthusiastic about me changing to synthetic oil (why go to that expense? - change the dino oil more frequently and know you've got all the waste products out - how environmentally harmful is burning waste synthetic oil?) The last question is a good one, since NZ burns rather than re-refines its waste oil. Anyone got any info on that? Regards Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 199K miles 1990 Toyota Hilux D/cab 4WD 130K km ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch New Zealand Phone +64 3 980 5712 Cellphone 027 326 3245 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] this is waht happens when ...............
In a message dated 11/14/2005 6:38:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, PONDERSOA writes: this is waht happens when dallas come to phila... beer cold ribs bbqing potatoe salad...saiding!!! wood ( for our back yard bond fire) stacked and five people form New Orleans la who are with me ...looking in amazment at what happens to iggles ( eagles) fans when dem dirty rotten communist %^* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) *! dallas cowboys come to town!.priceless ( we cant seem to explain it to them they just dont understand!) oh yeah cowboys players drive ...B.M.W.s heathens! ,and they beat their dogs ! yeah really ho and away we go collins 1985 500 sec
[MBZ] this is waht happens when ...............
this is waht happens when dallas come to phila... beer cold ribs bbqing potatoe salad...saiding!!! wood ( for our back yard bond fire) stacked and five people form New Orleans la who are with me ...looking in amazment at what happens to iggles ( eagles) fans when dem dirty rotten communist %^* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) *! dallas cowboys come to town!.priceless ( we cant seem to explain it to them they just dont understand!) oh yeah cowboys players drive ...B.M.W.s heathens! ,and they beat their dogs ! yeah really ho and away we go collins 1985 500 sec -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TristanJoelle_051110[1].jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 30789 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051114/7baf66d9/TristanJoelle_0511101.jpg
Re: [MBZ] Iowa tornadoes -- LT. Don?
Were you affected by the overnight tornadoes? Craig Lt. Don lives in Jefferson, which tho not far away, was not one of the 9 towns hit. -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 182k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k
[MBZ] Service Manuals Online
This looks like a good link to many online MB service manuals: http://mb.braingears.com/ Scott Ritchey, Kittrell, NC 1982 300 SD 225K miles 1979 300 TD 355K miles From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 14 01:13:42 2005 Received: from pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.63]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EbSuk-000759-A7 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:13:42 + Received: from dialup-4.253.119.43.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.253.119.43] heloêrthlink.net) by pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EbSuh-0002jy-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:13:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:07:49 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:13:46 - Delvac 1 is preferable to the others if you can find it, at least for diesels. I use Mobile 1 15W50 for summer use, 5W50 most of the time for winter, I have been doing about four oil changes a year lately with the milage I'm accumulating. 6000 mile intervals work fine with a filter each change so far -- car runs like a top at 234,000 miles and starts instantly, doesn't use more than a quart in 6000 miles. Peter
Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!
Peter Frederick wrote: Delvac 1 is preferable to the others if you can find it, at least for diesels. I use Mobile 1 15W50 for summer use, 5W50 most of the time for winter, I have been doing about four oil changes a year lately with the milage I'm accumulating. 6000 mile intervals work fine with a filter each change so far -- car runs like a top at 234,000 miles and starts instantly, doesn't use more than a quart in 6000 miles. Peter While Delvac 1 (Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is an identical blend except for a boron marker) is clearly the premium diesel rated full synthetic oil, but unless you intend to use extended change intervals (more then 30kmi) you will find virtually no advantage compared to the CF rated Mobil 1 varieties. It is only at extreme change intervals that the exceptional properties of Delvac 1 become important. It is NOT (in MY opinion) worth the premium price (~$7/qt) compared to Mobil 1 Truck and SUV ($5.50/qt) or other Mobil 1 blends. Best value recently is 5 qt bottles of M-1 TSUV at Wal-Mart for ~$20. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] anyone need any W140/R129 parts?
Did the rear accumulators on Deb's 1995 E320 today, major PITA. Rather go to the dentist. Still need to do them on the 600SEL - can't wait. Then continued cleaning the garage from last weekend - found more stuff that needs to go. I'm putting a car in the garage this year one way or another screw that working in zero degree weather outside garbage. Rear rotors - NEW - scuffed and high temp painted for 1991 500SL 4 chrome W140 8 hole 16 rims, nice shiney bright face, light chrome peeling inside, great for snows - powder coating - rechroming - lawn ornament L R W140 Headlights w/glass lens these are the 1995 and up style with the replaceable lens and will fit 1992 and up cars as a direct replacement. Also includes a spare lens. Don't remember if it's Left or Right. It's used and it goes with the lights. Email me if interested, I'm in Ohio. This next item is FREE just pay shipping - Mercedes Microfiche Reader - NO SLIDES James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320
Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!
While we're on the subject Marshall, do you have any words about ELF synthetic oil? My indie (VW and MB born and bred) put ELF Excellium DID 5w30 in my Golf TDI. I see ELF has a wide range of diesel oils. He only uses ELF oils in the VW's he services. I don't know what he uses in the MB diesels he takes care of. http://www.elf.com/live/wex/lub/lubroot.nsf/VS_OPM/3C44780A936138B4C1256E7F0043CBA4?OpenDocument Click on Engine from Range of Products list. FWIW, I can't get ELF products at any local store that I know of, but Mobil 1 15w50 is easily available. For some reason 5w40 is not. I've yet to see that one at all. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Delvac 1 is preferable to the others if you can find it, at least for diesels. I use Mobile 1 15W50 for summer use, 5W50 most of the time for winter, I have been doing about four oil changes a year lately with the milage I'm accumulating. 6000 mile intervals work fine with a filter each change so far -- car runs like a top at 234,000 miles and starts instantly, doesn't use more than a quart in 6000 miles. Peter While Delvac 1 (Mobil 1 Truck and SUV is an identical blend except for a boron marker) is clearly the premium diesel rated full synthetic oil, but unless you intend to use extended change intervals (more then 30kmi) you will find virtually no advantage compared to the CF rated Mobil 1 varieties. It is only at extreme change intervals that the exceptional properties of Delvac 1 become important. It is NOT (in MY opinion) worth the premium price (~$7/qt) compared to Mobil 1 Truck and SUV ($5.50/qt) or other Mobil 1 blends. Best value recently is 5 qt bottles of M-1 TSUV at Wal-Mart for ~$20. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] OT: For the Suburban lovers
I didn't know they went back this far: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suburban-Classic-Suburban-Hot-Rod-Classic-Truck_W0QQitemZ4589260629QQcategoryZ6155QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Tim 1982 300TD Moby
Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!
TimothyPilgrim wrote: While we're on the subject Marshall, do you have any words about ELF synthetic oil? My indie (VW and MB born and bred) put ELF Excellium DID 5w30 in my Golf TDI. I see ELF has a wide range of diesel oils. He only uses ELF oils in the VW's he services. I don't know what he uses in the MB diesels he takes care of. http://www.elf.com/live/wex/lub/lubroot.nsf/VS_OPM/3C44780A936138B4C1256E7F0043CBA4?OpenDocument Click on Engine from Range of Products list. FWIW, I can't get ELF products at any local store that I know of, but Mobil 1 15w50 is easily available. For some reason 5w40 is not. I've yet to see that one at all. I have NO experience with it. I'm told they make some good oil. I have not found any xW-30 oil that's been satisfactory for my diesels and won't go looking for one as long as Mobil keeps selling Delvac 1 or M-1 TSUV. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] this weeks OMG
well it is interesting and ill bet it can move out .of course there is no way i would buy this thing engine and block and of freeze plug damage!!! yeah right and look how close that battery's terminals are to the cowl ...shz collins 1985 500 sec http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/77-Mercedes-300D-to-Ford-302-Conversion-Kit_W0Q QitemZ8014547235QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Re: [MBZ] Shadetree MB alignment
i read this in its entirety and all i can say is look it really is not that expensive to take the car to an alignment shop its worth it as a matter of fact i think the only time i sent my car out was for alignment and paint what are you trying to do if you are trying to save money on your beloved car that's cool but you wont be able to accurately do this alignment with the things and procedures out lined collins 1985 500sec In a message dated 11/13/2005 11:31:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some one was posting about toe setting questions. I found this in my archive... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 6:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] Re: Mercedes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 102 Or, you could jack up the car and rest it on blocks under the lower control arms so the tires are just barely off the ground. Take Juniors sidewalk chalk and hold it against the tire tread and rotate the tire to make a chalk stripe all the way around. Middle of the tire is nice but either side of middle works too. Then take a nail, ball point pen, or something like it and brace it against the floor and the tire. Again, rotate the tire to make a line all the way around. The ends should meet exactly, if not, start over. I used to do this with just a pen line, but then I used to see without bifocals too.
[MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability?
Can you get MB part 601 078 00 16 ? If so, price? It's the plastic cover with the fuel inlet connection for the fuel thermostat on a '90 300D 2.5 ??? Thanks, -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system
Kaleb, Have you checked the main overload protection relay/fuse on the firewall? I believe it is a 10 amp and can cause weird issues when it fails. May just need a new fuse, maybe the whole relay. Dave W - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system If you all remember from a couple of weeks ago my 560SEL was not charging, and non of the instrument cluster lights were coming on when the key was turned on and before the engine started. Well I put another alternator on it and it was charging but still no lights. Anyways, yesterday I went to start it and the battery was dead. Put a different battery on it and notice the red battery light stays on when the key is turned OFF and goes out when the key is turned on but before the engine is started. Car starts fine with the charged battery but the alternator does not appear to be charging like it should(only 12.2 volts or so). What the heck is going on with this thing? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system
I agree with Dave - sounds like a stuck relay, but you can't over look the fuses - Change ALL the FUSES. On 11/14/05, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, Have you checked the main overload protection relay/fuse on the firewall? I believe it is a 10 amp and can cause weird issues when it fails. May just need a new fuse, maybe the whole relay. Dave W -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] http://www.pindelski.com/subscribe.htm
This is what it provides: http://www.pindelski.com I'm asking y'all if it's woth it...don't think you'll really know until you subscribe, which I am not willing to do without a recommendation from a trusted source who has already done so... Chris Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does the site privide and what's it worth? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ]/subscribe.htm $25/yr to subscribe - does anybody - is it worth it? Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 14 14:26:56 2005 Received: from wsip-70-184-21-236.ok.ok.cox.net ([70.184.21.236] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EbfIO-Gt-J3 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:26:56 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:26:59 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:26:57 - will check that out. The last time I had one of those fail it would cause the idle to go way up to about 1800 rpm and I believe the SRS light to stay on. Dave Wakin wrote: Kaleb, Have you checked the main overload protection relay/fuse on the firewall? I believe it is a 10 amp and can cause weird issues when it fails. May just need a new fuse, maybe the whole relay. Dave W - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system If you all remember from a couple of weeks ago my 560SEL was not charging, and non of the instrument cluster lights were coming on when the key was turned on and before the engine started. Well I put another alternator on it and it was charging but still no lights. Anyways, yesterday I went to start it and the battery was dead. Put a different battery on it and notice the red battery light stays on when the key is turned OFF and goes out when the key is turned on but before the engine is started. Car starts fine with the charged battery but the alternator does not appear to be charging like it should(only 12.2 volts or so). What the heck is going on with this thing? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74
Re: [MBZ] http://www.pindelski.com/subscribe.htm
try the $5 trial. Christopher McCann wrote: This is what it provides: http://www.pindelski.com I'm asking y'all if it's woth it...don't think you'll really know until you subscribe, which I am not willing to do without a recommendation from a trusted source who has already done so... Chris Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does the site privide and what's it worth? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ]/subscribe.htm $25/yr to subscribe - does anybody - is it worth it? Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] http://www.pindelski.com/subscribe.htm
Tom Hargrave wrote: What does the site privide and what's it worth? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] http://www.pindelski.com/subscribe.htm $25/yr to subscribe - does anybody - is it worth it? Its an old MercedesShop member who did some excellent picture based tutorials on all the maintenance he did to his car (valves, a/c some suspension, some engine, pretty middle of the line as far as difficulty goes with some delving into deeper stuff). He would have 30 or so pictures for each job, and would add pointers to specific items, with text descriptions added describing the procedure. I have never bought the subscription, and have not seen his work since he went to the pay model. That was a couple of years ago, and I imagine that his tutorial database has significantly increased. The tutorials are of *excellent* quality, and if you're new to the MB maintenance thing, would definitely be worth it. If you've been around the block a few times they are a great reference, but up to you if it's worth $25. HTH John '79 300SD
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List Nashville 190D
I think we are talking about two different cars. The one I bid on was located at Daytona Beach, FL. Tan --- TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me guess, a 190D that Tan was bidding on and lost by $100? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/12/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, the good deals dont last long. Y'all dont even want to know about the steal deal I just brought home. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Big discount on buying a new Benz
It's all in who you know! --R http://www.nationalreview.com/rosett/rosett200511140905.asp
[MBZ] 1995 E320 Wagon v.s. 1987 300TDT
There is a 1995 E320 wagon at an european car lot not far from where I work - 80,000 miles, immaculate condition, asking for $10,500. How does it compare to the 1987 300TDT wagon - longevity and maintenance wise? I know the fuel mileage on the E320 is lower than the diesel wagon. The E320 certainly has whole lot more electrical junks which I assume will cost more to keep up. Any known big ticket items? Just curious and would like to hear back from the E320 or gas MB owners... Tan
Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5 transmission modulator adjustment
Don, what you are looking at is the control pressure/kick-down cable. The modulator is right in front of the Neutral safety switch at the left side right above the pan.. On 11/13/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did adjust the VCV - and it made a little bit of difference, but not a lot. Under WOT - it takes almost a full second to complete a shift from 1-2 or 2-3. This the 722.418 transmission - guess I need a technical resource with where to measure what, etc. I don't think I have a gauge that will measure 15.6 bar +/-1.0. If it's where I think it is, the modulator is on top of the tranny on the passenger side. I think that's where the vacuum line ends. I can only see the bottom side of it. Don't see how one would make any adjustments to it with the tranny in place. On 11/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: I'm missing something here - I can't find where/how to adjust the shift hardness on this car. Chassis - 124.128 Engine - 602.962 Tranny - 722.418 The sifts on this car are softer than I'd like - just short of flaring. I like a nice crisp shift under WOT. I don't have the 124 manual, but it looks like this engine is referenced on the 126 manual that I do have, in the injection system section. However, if it's right, the adjustment lever must be between the VCV and the IP - meaning you have to remove it? There is also mention of rotating the VCV with the throttle at the full open stop (with the engine running?). You rotate the VCV till you feel resistance. Does this affect the shifts? What's the right way to adjust the shifts, and where is it done? The 722.3/.4 series transmissions for turbodiesels manufactured from the mid '80 on shifted MUCH more smoothly than all of the previous versions. That's a feature, NOT a flaw! To increase the firmness of the shifts beyond what was intended WILL result in premature wear. I suggest that you measure the pressures and set them to the intended values (I don't have confirmed settings for your model - 1990+ 124.128 - the last setting I have are for '89 cars with a 722.418 transmission - a mod pressure of 3.25 bar and a working pressure of 15.6 bar +/-1.0). Much of the illusion of soft shifts comes from the high stall speed of the torque converter used in later turbodiesel cars - much higher (~20-25%) than the converters used until 1985. With these later transmissions, the difference in engine speed between the engine driving the car and the car driving the engine can be more than 600 rpm - the earlier transmissions (and those for normally aspirated diesels) seldom vary more than about 100 rpm. I DO prefer that tighter coupling, but you'd need to re-engineer the torque converter to accomplish that. Adjusting the shift firmness beyond the factory settings would only damage the transmission. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] 602.962 vacuum pump
OK Don wrote: Is the vacuum pump on the 602.962 engine subject to the same failures as the crimped cover original units on the '86-'87 603 engines? = It looks to be a different part number in the EPC (if I'm reading it correctly) -- Mercedes/Pierburg has redesigned the pump at LEAST 3 times that I know = of (maybe more - a parts man once told me at least 6, but I've not = checked to see if there are 6 different part numbers) over the 15+ years = that it was used. The earliest versions (1st couple of years) were VERY likely to fly = apart well before 200kmi and more than a couple of engines were = destroyed when parts from a failing pump rained into the chain vault and = derailed the timing chain. This pattern of failure has occurred with at = least the 1st and 2nd generation versions thru the '80s (and maybe later = as well) and because of this some techs say that the pump REALLY should = be changed at least every 200kmi whether it gives problems or not (some = early pumps didn't last even 150kmi). The later pumps often/usually warn of eminent failure by leaking oil = before they fly apart. I have had to change the pumps in 5 of the 7 = OM60x engines I've owned - 4 before the engines had 200kmi on them. I = believe those pumps were all 1st or 2nd generation pumps. I've been told = that the latest versions with the screws on the front cover (as opposed = to those that are simply crimped) ARE more long lived. It's important to change the pump BEFORE it flies apart because as soon = as the bearing begins to fail (the most common failure pattern - I'm = told that when the bearing starts to fail, the front seal will start to = leak) it starts to wear the cam surface and if the cam surface shows = clearly visible wear, the entire timer must be replaced = (Pierburg/Mercedes will not warrant a pump damaged from being run on a = worn timer cam - see Pierburg pamphlet). It is common when pumps are = paired with worn cam surface for the pump to fail in less than 20kmi. I've attached the Pierburg pamphlet. Marshall -- = Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 = turbo 237kmi -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Pierburg.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 279913 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051= 114/83e86be4/Pierburg.pdf
Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability?
$1.70, probably cheaper to get locally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:03 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability? Can you get MB part 601 078 00 16 ? If so, price? It's the plastic cover with the fuel inlet connection for the fuel thermostat on a '90 300D 2.5 ??? Thanks, -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 Wagon v.s. 1987 300TDT
Wow. That list would certainly keep me away from the newer MB. And this might be heresy on this list, but you might want to take a look at a '95-'98 Audi A6 wagon. We've got one with 110K on it, and in my experience (and that of the quattro list), there just isn't that much to go wrong on those cars. They drive beautifully, and the quattro system is unbeatable in bad weather. You can spend less than $8K on a nice one, $4K on an average one. Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Thompson Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:13 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 Wagon v.s. 1987 300TDT Tan, My take is that for the first 150Kmi or so, the 1995 gasser will be as reliable and economical as the older diesel. After that point, though, the diesel will still be going while the gasser will start to need a few more expensive repairs. Several things to look for right away on any 1993-1995 M104 motor Mercedes: - check to see if the engine wiring harness has been replaced. If not, you are looking at sizeable DIY project or an expensive repair bill in the neat future. These wiring harnesses have a biodegradeable insulation that, under the extreme temperatures of the engine bay, have been known to degrade much ahead of plan. Last I looked, the engine wiring alone went over $800 retail. Plan on at least 6 hours for the typical DIYer. - check and make sure the air conditioner blows cold. Make sure someone hasn't just topped off the refrigerant in order to sell the car. At least 1994-1995 cars had aluminum evaporators that are prone to springing leaks. While an evaporator isn't too expensive (about $200), I've been quoted anywhere from 13 to 16 hours of labor to gut the interior in order to replace the evaporator. I know of several dedicated DIYers who have attempted this on their own, but only one has said he would do it again... - The early 104 motors tended to have issues with oil leaks from the head gaskets. Check this out closely. Options are to live with the leaks (for awhile) or pull the head and replace the head gasket. - I've been having ignition issues lately on mine. Seems to miss some at idle, and hesitate on acceleration every now and then. The more research I do, the more I hear of this being common with the early HFM system used starting with the M104 in 1993. Most of these issues are related to the wiring harness mentioned above, but in some cases the bad wiring has caused sensors to fail prematurely as well, and it can take some time to get it all sorted out. Scared you yet? If you have access to any service history and do your homework, it's not nearly as bad as it sounds. Many wiring harnesses and head gaskets have already been replaced. I simply love the feel of the W124 chassis, and the M104 motor is just enough to make it a joy to drive (though I'd gladly trade for Dave M's E500). I've heard a number of people claim if you plan on more than 20kmi per year, the deisel is the way to go. Under that, it's personal preference. I'd kinda agree with that statement. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 1984 300D (sold) On 11/14/05, Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a 1995 E320 wagon at an european car lot not far from where I work - 80,000 miles, immaculate condition, asking for $10,500. How does it compare to the 1987 300TDT wagon - longevity and maintenance wise? I know the fuel mileage on the E320 is lower than the diesel wagon. The E320 certainly has whole lot more electrical junks which I assume will cost more to keep up. Any known big ticket items? Just curious and would like to hear back from the E320 or gas MB owners... ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 Wagon v.s. 1987 300TDT
Gary, Thanks for the information. Although my commute now is not as far as it used to be, somehow I still rack up 25k miles a year. From what you described, the gas wagon probably will be out of my conformt zone to own... Tan --- Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tan, My take is that for the first 150Kmi or so, the 1995 gasser will be as reliable and economical as the older diesel. After that point, though, the diesel will still be going while the gasser will start to need a few more expensive repairs. Several things to look for right away on any 1993-1995 M104 motor Mercedes: - check to see if the engine wiring harness has been replaced. If not, you are looking at sizeable DIY project or an expensive repair bill in the neat future. These wiring harnesses have a biodegradeable insulation that, under the extreme temperatures of the engine bay, have been known to degrade much ahead of plan. Last I looked, the engine wiring alone went over $800 retail. Plan on at least 6 hours for the typical DIYer. - check and make sure the air conditioner blows cold. Make sure someone hasn't just topped off the refrigerant in order to sell the car. At least 1994-1995 cars had aluminum evaporators that are prone to springing leaks. While an evaporator isn't too expensive (about $200), I've been quoted anywhere from 13 to 16 hours of labor to gut the interior in order to replace the evaporator. I know of several dedicated DIYers who have attempted this on their own, but only one has said he would do it again... - The early 104 motors tended to have issues with oil leaks from the head gaskets. Check this out closely. Options are to live with the leaks (for awhile) or pull the head and replace the head gasket. - I've been having ignition issues lately on mine. Seems to miss some at idle, and hesitate on acceleration every now and then. The more research I do, the more I hear of this being common with the early HFM system used starting with the M104 in 1993. Most of these issues are related to the wiring harness mentioned above, but in some cases the bad wiring has caused sensors to fail prematurely as well, and it can take some time to get it all sorted out. Scared you yet? If you have access to any service history and do your homework, it's not nearly as bad as it sounds. Many wiring harnesses and head gaskets have already been replaced. I simply love the feel of the W124 chassis, and the M104 motor is just enough to make it a joy to drive (though I'd gladly trade for Dave M's E500). I've heard a number of people claim if you plan on more than 20kmi per year, the deisel is the way to go. Under that, it's personal preference. I'd kinda agree with that statement. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 1984 300D (sold) On 11/14/05, Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a 1995 E320 wagon at an european car lot not far from where I work - 80,000 miles, immaculate condition, asking for $10,500. How does it compare to the 1987 300TDT wagon - longevity and maintenance wise? I know the fuel mileage on the E320 is lower than the diesel wagon. The E320 certainly has whole lot more electrical junks which I assume will cost more to keep up. Any known big ticket items? Just curious and would like to hear back from the E320 or gas MB owners... ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system
Kaleb, its not just the volts that the alternator should be putting out (12.2 sounds ok) its the amps thats needed for keeping the battery charged. Have you checked all your grounds ? A bad ground could cause those symptoms since you said putting in a new battery worked, but the red battery light stays lit. That sounds to me like a weak ground on the battery side.. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:41:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system Kaleb, Have you checked the main overload protection relay/fuse on the firewall? I believe it is a 10 amp and can cause weird issues when it fails. May just need a new fuse, maybe the whole relay. Dave W - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system If you all remember from a couple of weeks ago my 560SEL was not charging, and non of the instrument cluster lights were coming on when the key was turned on and before the engine started. Well I put another alternator on it and it was charging but still no lights. Anyways, yesterday I went to start it and the battery was dead. Put a different battery on it and notice the red battery light stays on when the key is turned OFF and goes out when the key is turned on but before the engine is started. Car starts fine with the charged battery but the alternator does not appear to be charging like it should(only 12.2 volts or so). What the heck is going on with this thing? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 Wagon v.s. 1987 300TDT
Lee, Does Audi wagons come with manual transmission? That would be a plus. I looked at some BMW stickshift wagon and they command premiums on Ebay, not to mention the amount of electronic stuff that makes me worry. I guess I have been spoiled by having almost none eletrical problems on the 2 MB diesels we currently have. Tan --- Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. That list would certainly keep me away from the newer MB. And this might be heresy on this list, but you might want to take a look at a '95-'98 Audi A6 wagon. We've got one with 110K on it, and in my experience (and that of the quattro list), there just isn't that much to go wrong on those cars. They drive beautifully, and the quattro system is unbeatable in bad weather. You can spend less than $8K on a nice one, $4K on an average one. Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Thompson Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:13 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 Wagon v.s. 1987 300TDT Tan, My take is that for the first 150Kmi or so, the 1995 gasser will be as reliable and economical as the older diesel. After that point, though, the diesel will still be going while the gasser will start to need a few more expensive repairs. Several things to look for right away on any 1993-1995 M104 motor Mercedes: - check to see if the engine wiring harness has been replaced. If not, you are looking at sizeable DIY project or an expensive repair bill in the neat future. These wiring harnesses have a biodegradeable insulation that, under the extreme temperatures of the engine bay, have been known to degrade much ahead of plan. Last I looked, the engine wiring alone went over $800 retail. Plan on at least 6 hours for the typical DIYer. - check and make sure the air conditioner blows cold. Make sure someone hasn't just topped off the refrigerant in order to sell the car. At least 1994-1995 cars had aluminum evaporators that are prone to springing leaks. While an evaporator isn't too expensive (about $200), I've been quoted anywhere from 13 to 16 hours of labor to gut the interior in order to replace the evaporator. I know of several dedicated DIYers who have attempted this on their own, but only one has said he would do it again... - The early 104 motors tended to have issues with oil leaks from the head gaskets. Check this out closely. Options are to live with the leaks (for awhile) or pull the head and replace the head gasket. - I've been having ignition issues lately on mine. Seems to miss some at idle, and hesitate on acceleration every now and then. The more research I do, the more I hear of this being common with the early HFM system used starting with the M104 in 1993. Most of these issues are related to the wiring harness mentioned above, but in some cases the bad wiring has caused sensors to fail prematurely as well, and it can take some time to get it all sorted out. Scared you yet? If you have access to any service history and do your homework, it's not nearly as bad as it sounds. Many wiring harnesses and head gaskets have already been replaced. I simply love the feel of the W124 chassis, and the M104 motor is just enough to make it a joy to drive (though I'd gladly trade for Dave M's E500). I've heard a number of people claim if you plan on more than 20kmi per year, the deisel is the way to go. Under that, it's personal preference. I'd kinda agree with that statement. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 1984 300D (sold) On 11/14/05, Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a 1995 E320 wagon at an european car lot not far from where I work - 80,000 miles, immaculate condition, asking for $10,500. How does it compare to the 1987 300TDT wagon - longevity and maintenance wise? I know the fuel mileage on the E320 is lower than the diesel wagon. The E320 certainly has whole lot more electrical junks which I assume will cost more to keep up. Any known big ticket items? Just curious and would like to hear back from the E320 or gas MB owners... ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system
Uhh, unless I'm missing something, 12.2 isn't really enough. I would only expect to see that if maybe you're overloading the alternator at idle. Batteries should be at 13.2v or higher. Levi On 11/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, its not just the volts that the alternator should be putting out ( 12.2 sounds ok) its the amps thats needed for keeping the battery charged. Have you checked all your grounds ? A bad ground could cause those symptoms since you said putting in a new battery worked, but the red battery light stays lit. That sounds to me like a weak ground on the battery side.. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata
Re: [MBZ] Got my oil sucker today
Donald, I had one of those Liqui-vac suckers. Be careful not to use it when the oil is too hot. Mine collapsed and had to exchange for a new one. It is great to service the lawnmovers that's for sure - you don't have to flip the thing over to get the old oil out! Tan --- Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found one of the liquid-vac oil suckers on ebay for less than they sold it on their website. I know that I can make a $2 topsider, but that would mean I would have to purchase a shop vac. I thought long and hard about that, because I really want a shop vac, but decided to tell my wife that is what I want for Christmas. Anyway, I of course, got my new oil sucker after I sold my MB diesel. So, I guess I will have to figure out how to use it on my 92 Olds 98 and my wife's Explorer. I can use it on my lawnmower, too. Now, that I can change my oil easily I think I am finally going to switch to Mobil 1. After reading the hundreds of emails about Mobil 1 I figured I would try it. Is the Mobil 1 10-30 just as good as the mobil 1 T SUV? Any thoughts? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] http://www.pindelski.com/subscribe.htm
Pindelski is/was I believe an engineer by profession was a fixture on the 'original' original Mercedes list, back as far as '95 and longer. IIRC it was he who rebuilt his OM617 at home, guided step by step on the list by Stu Ritter (first time Ritter had agreed to do that for someone). His site has step by step pictorial guides to a pile of maintenance stuff and some basic repair stuff, mainly for 126s IIRC. The quality is way beyond the average for an individual effort on the Net, in the pro league. In fact, some jobs are so 'broken down' in terms of steps that I found it a little irritating (I printed most of the stuff off into a binder). He also answers questions relating to the jobs and other stuff. Worth it? For the beginner, indispensable, for the mid-range DIYer, good extra reference. For an experienced DIY-er, I would still say yes if you have not yet explored a 126, or have yet to do some large, fiddly shinola such as climate control debugging. He put a *lot* of time and effort into doing it and it's pretty much crystal clear as I recall. The pics are mostly very good to excellent too. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does the site privide and what's it worth? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] http://www.pindelski.com/subscribe.htm $25/yr to subscribe - does anybody - is it worth it? Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] http://www.pindelski.com/subscribe.htm
What's he got for a W123 wagon then? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/14/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pindelski is/was I believe an engineer by profession was a fixture on the 'original' original Mercedes list, back as far as '95 and longer. IIRC it was he who rebuilt his OM617 at home, guided step by step on the list by Stu Ritter (first time Ritter had agreed to do that for someone). His site has step by step pictorial guides to a pile of maintenance stuff and some basic repair stuff, mainly for 126s IIRC. The quality is way beyond the average for an individual effort on the Net, in the pro league. In fact, some jobs are so 'broken down' in terms of steps that I found it a little irritating (I printed most of the stuff off into a binder). He also answers questions relating to the jobs and other stuff. Worth it? For the beginner, indispensable, for the mid-range DIYer, good extra reference. For an experienced DIY-er, I would still say yes if you have not yet explored a 126, or have yet to do some large, fiddly shinola such as climate control debugging. He put a *lot* of time and effort into doing it and it's pretty much crystal clear as I recall. The pics are mostly very good to excellent too. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does the site privide and what's it worth? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] http://www.pindelski.com/subscribe.htm $25/yr to subscribe - does anybody - is it worth it? Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Stiff throttle
So the spring is the car's equivalent of an appendix? Or is this an example of don't try this at home? On 11/11/05, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Throttles on my 80 240D and 81 300D were exceedingly stiff 'til I removed coil sprng abt 3/4 inch dia by abt 6 inch long standing vertically in linkage between rear of engine and firewall. Drove 'em 250 kmi without that stiff spring. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Pindelski Subscription
I have used the subscription for 2 years now, I find his explanations helpful. He describes each step and illustrates with digital pictures. I used his timing chain pictorial to change my chain with no difficulties. Is it worth $25.00? It is to me, others with have to make their own choice. James S. Jetton 1987 560 SEL 1982 300D Turbo From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 14 18:42:41 2005 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.196]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EbjHt-00028O-F3 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:42:41 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so1139226wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:42:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T8voxbJJbrMJsOWvnWKkFBeYpwqZKoZM3sb/cWqZG89dVp0Cp5FXlKnGEQNISoSBP4PSGVC8uoV3cWHWlmRg8qrLHYVVBUqGjEw+fNT4yWSfnqe1AFVx2MY8sYjL8fBhtcNd9oEgsqBi5TCklWUni3v+tRNbpA9WnU+T2NtPq3o= Received: by 10.70.77.6 with SMTP id z6mr1778579wxa; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.124.6 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:42:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:42:36 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:42:42 - Thanks - I will try the local sources. On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] screwed up 560SEL charging system
12.2 is not enough, it needs to be over 13.1 at the minimum, should normally run 13.3 to 13.5 though. Levi Smith wrote: Uhh, unless I'm missing something, 12.2 isn't really enough. I would only expect to see that if maybe you're overloading the alternator at idle. Batteries should be at 13.2v or higher. Levi On 11/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, its not just the volts that the alternator should be putting out ( 12.2 sounds ok) its the amps thats needed for keeping the battery charged. Have you checked all your grounds ? A bad ground could cause those symptoms since you said putting in a new battery worked, but the red battery light stays lit. That sounds to me like a weak ground on the battery side.. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability?
Not if you sell him 100! On 11/14/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks - I will try the local sources. On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cell Phones in the car
Hi, make it three! I don't own one either..my eyes are first focused on the road, my periphial vision on the 3 pointed star. I JUST talked to a buddy this morning...he got a call last night, and at that moment when the phone rang...pow! Right into the back of someone's car. Thankfully, he was not going that fast. When are these people going to learn? Rhonald 1985 300D 280,000 miles Washington, DC Original Message Follows From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cup Holder for1995 E320 Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:01:32 -0500 Dave M. wrote: I dream of the day when phones are banned nationwide from being used by the driver when the car is in motion. *sigh* -Dave M. (one of the last people on planet Earth who does not own a cell phone!) That's two of us! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] If you want EGR blocking kits...
e-mail Brian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - and let him know. He said he will be making a batch in a few weeks and will post more info on the mercedessource forum. FYI. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 14 21:23:33 2005 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.199]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EblnZ-000343-8f for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:23:33 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s10so951275wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:23:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=k3xdk9PnqHLr7tm0a3vZVc/s6CIlcj0iGNxqin41ZN6oVeajpuMFTL/zN3XZqOt02r8KAWkXiYgx3dTnfD17Xs0sMDif2RRUbBDXaKb/MiDxcxQ2+vCHU4PM1zQihN7XSlwoBgvMGWRY6lwEADXL2RQ9oGd37hQZK7h8RFuZPTc= Received: by 10.70.50.1 with SMTP id x1mr955681wxx; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.42.15 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:23:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:23:28 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] If you want EGR blocking kits... X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:23:33 - I'll personally vouch for Brian's trustworthiness--he's a good guy. On 11/14/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: e-mail Brian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - and let him know. He said he will be makin= g a batch in a few weeks and will post more info on the mercedesshop forum= . Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (210k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Pindelski Subscription
pindelski used to be one of our biggest customers until jono drove him off. he is a serious fellow. very anal. i imagine his work would be very good On 11/14/05, James Jetton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used the subscription for 2 years now, I find his explanations helpful. He describes each step and illustrates with digital pictures. I used his timing chain pictorial to change my chain with no difficulties. Is it worth $25.00? It is to me, others with have to make their own choice. James S. Jetton 1987 560 SEL 1982 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: For the Jeep freaks, interesting Grand Wagoneer
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 09:44:29PM -0800, Alex Chamberlain wrote: I'm kind of toying with getting one of these. Seems like the price of gas is driving down the used prices of all big SUVs and such. This one looks nice, but look at the under-the-hood pics. What's up with the driver's side of the engine? Looks like there's something missing---a bunch of hoses that don't go anywhere. Those look like spare radiator hoses. Nothing else under the hood of those was both that big and rubber. I'm not overly concerned about the sending unit needing to be replaced. I'd want to see the oil gauge working before I bought it from a dealer, but I have a mechanical gauge and sender I use for diagnosing these. Jeep gauges are for amusement purposes only, and the real solution is the setup I have in a box for the 74 - basically redoing all the gauges with aftermarket stuff. 86 and up are a little better, since the ammeter that could catch the truck on fire was replaced with a voltmeter (that didn't have the entire electrical system running through it). 86 and up also have dana44s front and rear, like the earlier models - 80-85 had an amc corporate rear in them that wasn't quite as rugged. The AMC 360 never had a problem with the oil pump. The oil pump was extremely simple. Alan nailed it on the head saying he had to replace the timing cover - the clearance between the [hardened] pump gears and the [aluminum] timing cover will cause oil pressure problems. The transfer case in the jeep in the auction has a viscous coupled NP-229, so it's probably not a transfer case chain, but could be low fluid in either the trans or transfercase, or a wiped out trans mount but is most likely universal joints. I have two, the 74 has a straight six and a manual trans, the 77 has a 401, automatic, and full time transfercase. The 74 gets 18-20 mpg, the 77 used to get 12-13, but now is about 7. See Alan's comments about the motorcraft carburetor, it applies to the four barrel ones as well. The 74 has survived trails in stock trim (with 29 tires) that BLM has said not to take a rig with less than 32 tires on. With 31s or 32s, you'll school just about anything out there. The 401 never seemed to run out of steam when it was used as the primary tow vehicle, and that includes dragging dead cars up 6-7% grades. K
[MBZ] Cell phones in the car
Rhonald wrote: Hi, make it three! I don't own one either..my eyes are first focused on the road, my periphial vision on the 3 pointed star. When are these people going to learn? Here's my opinion: I use a cell phone when I am driving. Sometimes, I turn around and gets things out of the back seat and steer with my knees. Sometimes I shave in the car while smoking a pipe or cigar and writing notes and talking on the cell phone. Now that I have the pimp daddy olds 98 (with a million buttons on the dash) I can check my instant mileage, battery volts, ETA, miles to destination, current time, temperature, oil life indicator, and I can adjust all the mirrors while smoking a cigar, talking on the cell phone, steering with my knees and trying to find that french fry I just dropped between the seats. Good thing I have those steering wheel controls other wise I wouldn't have a free had to check my call waiting on my cell phone. I do not have the driving experience that many of you possess and will therefore not pontificate about how much I have driven. I will however say, that I often use my cell phone for conference calls while driving. I have for a long time. I am 33. I had one wreck when I was 16 exactly one week after I got my license. I spilled my drink because my old 1978 olds Delta 88 did not have a cupholder. I looked down and the next thing I knew I had run a light and t-boned a new (at the time) mustang. (As a side note, I totaled that poor mustang. I pushed the passenger door in so far they could not open the glove box, broke the front axle, bent the frame, and flattened the passenger tires. I had to replace the blinker cover on the Oldsmobile - that's all.) Donald H. Snook 1992 Olds 98 119K
