LarryT wrote:
If I knew how to search the archives or if my memory were better I wouldn't
have to bother you with this - is Mobil 1 ATF acceptable for use in the
power steering? It's for my 91 300D 2.5T W124
ATF is NOT approved for your car (but I doubt that it would do any
harm). You
Although Marshal has forgotten more than I know about this subject for what
it is worth I have run my 1977 300D with 15w/50 M1 extended life and now my
1979 240D with this product combined over 150K miles
Regards Tom Scordato
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From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Did they jack up the price on the 15W-50 when they put on the new label?
On 6/26/06, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Although Marshal has forgotten more than I know about this subject for
what
it is worth I have run my 1977 300D with 15w/50 M1 extended life and now
my
1979 240D with this
LT Don wrote:
Did they jack up the price on the 15W-50 when they put on the new label?
Old formula M-1 15W-50 was primarily group IV oil. M-1 15W-50 Ext is a
mix of group IV and V oil - much more group V then the old formula.
Costs more because group V oil is more expensive than group IV.
Actually, viscosity ratings are more complicated. In the old days, you
have an oil of a particular viscosity (actually flow rate at a certain
temperature). Petroleum based oils have a significant change of
viscosity with change in temperature character -- when hot, they get
VERY thin. When
Worth the price increase then. Thanks.
On 6/26/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LT Don wrote:
Did they jack up the price on the 15W-50 when they put on the new label?
Old formula M-1 15W-50 was primarily group IV oil. M-1 15W-50 Ext is a
mix of group IV and V oil - much more group
You are an engineer, aren't you? I can smell them -- my son is one.
On 6/26/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, viscosity ratings are more complicated. In the old days, you
have an oil of a particular viscosity (actually flow rate at a certain
temperature). Petroleum
No, actually a biologist, but science is science, engineering is just
applied science.
The greatest challenge in life is communication.
Peter
Ok, my daughter has her M.S. from George Mason in microbiology. I knew your
logic sounded familiar, and just picked the wrong kid. :-)
Don
On 6/26/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, actually a biologist, but science is science, engineering is just
applied science.
The
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com
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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:02 PM
To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices
Subject: Today's Diesel Prices
** ** **
Can anybody tell me - to replace the injection timing device on a 606
engine, is it really necessary to remove the fuel injection pump ?
Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D
'85 300D
'80 300TD
Have you tested the one in the parts wagon you have to see if it
behaves
similarly in the SDL or on the bench?
That instrument cluster is one of the _many_ parts that was
harvested off the wagon before I got it. I only have two
low-oil indicator lamps: one in the SDL and one in the 190D.
The
I made a schematic, see: http://cathey.dogear.com/mb190d/lowoil.pdf
-- Jim
Speaking of cars for sale, and crazy sellers - - the Times-Dispatch
(Richmond, Va) has an ad reading:1979 Mercedes 240D Power Everything
$25,000 Pretty high opinion he has for an old 240D!
I wonder how long he'll hold out? ;-)
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:06:35 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Certain expensive and capable analog Tektronix oscilloscopes that are
dying like flies come to mind, for which there are _no_ replacement
chips.)
And which ones would those be?
Craig
Well, at least I'm not being slammed by some so called scientist that
deliberately miss-understands my comments as I am on the photography
group!
Peter
I've been warned by the guy that repairs some of my instruments at work
(on-line TOC analyzers) that he is having trouble finding some of the
components, meaning I assume small scale integrated circuits. When the
last on someone has in stock is gone, that's it. Lots of things are
going fast,
I have no idea - but when in doubt, follow the manual ---
Perhaps Marshall has some insight.
On 6/26/06, ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anybody tell me - to replace the injection timing device on a 606
engine, is it really necessary to remove the fuel injection pump ?
Ned
Speaking of which, I'd better fire mine up again to keep those caps
'formed'. Does it really have IC's? It's a 310A.
Yes, it still works. Real radios glow in the dark!
On 6/26/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:06:35 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:31:05 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are an engineer, aren't you? I can smell them -- my son is one.
Ah, an OIL thread! It's been a while since we've had one!
Craig
I remember waiting for the warmup on the tube radio on my '63 Falcon. That,
along with the vacuum wipers (not much fun trying to pass a semi in the
slushy snow) made for fun times.
Bob Rentfro
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From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List
OK Don wrote:
I have no idea - but when in doubt, follow the manual ---
Perhaps Marshall has some insight.
On 6/26/06, ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anybody tell me - to replace the injection timing device on a 606
engine, is it really necessary to remove the fuel injection pump
Craig typed:
Ah, an OIL thread! It's been a while since we've had one!
They are always lurkingthey never are really done
Bob Rentfro
1987 300 TD
As you may remember, several list members have made various suggestions of
things to check. The problem appears to be internal to the Inj
pump. There is good fuel flow through the filters. (no algae) Filters
were replaced anyway. just to be certain we eliminated many sources
Thanks, Casey.
I couldn't see the level in the PS res the first time i added PS fluid (not
the fancy schmancy kind). It stopped the growling for a time, but it's back
with a vengance. I will check the level tomorrow if i remember before I head
off to work. Hopefully my girl child won't feel
Loren Faeth wrote:
1987 300 TD
As you may remember, several list members have made various suggestions of
things to check. The problem appears to be internal to the Inj
pump. There is good fuel flow through the filters. (no algae) Filters
were replaced anyway. just to be certain we
a magnetic parts tray works even better
Harry Watkins wrote:
I use a piece of dimpled foam under the hood for a handy place to put parts and
tools while I'm working. Mine is 24 x 30 inches and 3 inches thick.
Things can be thrown on it and they stay put. Even when its loaded you can
move
Thats interesting, hope it actually pans out. I might consider
switching to m1 again.
George Larribeau wrote:
Correction: Mobil 5W-30 Truck and SUV formula IS rated CD CF so is
suitable for light duty diesel service. Doesn't seem to meet ACEA B-3,
B-4 so it's inferior to other M-1 oils.
You would not say that if you ever tried the foam. I have a mag tray and I
like it, but, the foam is better in a lot of ways.
Harry
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:36 PM
so how much are they getting it for?
Curt Raymond wrote:
I've officially given up on Wal-Mart for pretty much anything. Everytime I got
its a crapshoot if they're going to have ANY Mobil 1 I can use. I don't
understand how they can have 200 gallons of 10w30, 5w30 and 5w20 and 3 quarts
of
Original Message
Subject: 1979 300D for sale
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:53:28 +
From: Chris Granju [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Chris Granju [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A friend told me about a '79 300D he's got for sale. It's an 'as is'
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=26905630
Any idea of what it might be worth?
Any comments about, it starts right up and has a little ruff idol for a
few seconds(like most diesels do), besides spelling?
Craig
My personal opinion is that this is the best one Mercedes ever made.
If it smoothes out runs right then I would not be too concerned.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com
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On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey
Where at in East TN? I might be interested.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Striplin Admin account
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:54 PM
To: mercedes Mailing List
Subject: [MBZ] [Fwd:
there is a 200 gallon limit on beer and wine. Not that I have tried to
hit that limit. I get too much product doing 60 gallons, five gallons
at a time each month.
On Tuesday, June 20, 2006, at 12:53 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
Potter, Tom E wrote:
Isn't it still legal to produce alcoholic
And which ones [Tek scopes-of-death] would those be?
2465, etc. (If I remember the number right.) We had them
at work once, along with many other models of various vintages,
and they were the ones you always reached for first. In fact,
the Bright Eyes 2467 was the big kahuna. Crank that
I would like to bypass my AC compressor and use a smaller fanbelt that will not
attach to the AC compressor pulley. My system does not work, and would rather
get the somewhat improved mileage.
Thanks,
Richard
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 27 06:17:44 2006
Received: from mxa.windwireless.net
Jim Cathey wrote:
And which ones [Tek scopes-of-death] would those be?
2465, etc. (If I remember the number right.) We had them
at work once, along with many other models of various vintages,
and they were the ones you always reached for first. In fact,
the Bright Eyes 2467 was the
Jim Cathey wrote:
However, I don't think that the 'load' of an uncoupled AC compressor
would even be noticeable at the fuel pump. Certainly not enough to
even pay for the new shorter belt, IMHO.
I don't think so, either...I think the only reason to do this would be
if the A/C compressor
I not sure if there is a problem indeed as you suggest - I'm juust
enquiring if its normal. The temperature reachs 98 deg on a mild hill
with no load at 25 deg C. Temperatures can reach 35-40 deg C here and
should I be towing a loaded trailer I am a bit concerned. Furthur when I
had the engine
On Jun 27, 2006, at 2:08 AM, RICHARD FIne wrote:
I would like to bypass my AC compressor and use a smaller fanbelt
that will not attach to the AC compressor pulley. My system does
not work, and would rather get the somewhat improved mileage.
Thanks,
Richard
A 603 engine without AC
on 6/24/06 10:53 AM, Marshall Booth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, thought I had put it into the subject line.
1982 240d.
Thx
Is this what you want?
http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Engine/615/07-200.pdf
Yes, but when I tried to access it over the preceding days I
?!?!?; 240D engine; I would be lucky to get 1/2 of their starting price
for my (WHOLE CAR) 1979 240D with my remanufactured engine in it with
MOST all NEW parts, pistons sleeves; mine looked better, when rebuilt
in my CLEAN kitchen, has about 25,000 miles since rebuild; crank,cam,
valves
I think the last discussion on the list is that they are going 8-10K.
But not with this many miles. There is one for sale locally here for
9K. 6000 might be good price on this one if it is as good as it sounds.
I probably have about 8K in mine now-130K miles. The ruff idol might be
Elvis on a
I have a 2213 in the closet, that I use on those rare occasions when I
need a 'scope these days. It's a nice piece of equipment; I hope it
doesn't die any time soon.
I have a 2336 that has already lost the HV once, and now has an
intermittent focus. Not a very robust model as it turns out.
It
Harry:
By dimpled foam do you mean the egg-crate mattress pad stuff?
Ned Kleinhenz
That's correct, mine came by way of a padding for a shipment I received.
Harry
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From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:56 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT tool tip
Harry:
By dimpled foam do you mean the
I got introduced to the FSM here, so I figured this was at least slightly
appropriate: http://inthepuddle.com/index.php?cid=104
Mercedes content: We watched The Gumball Rally the other night, theres a
couple NICE MBs in there. First is a somethingSE, 450 I think, what struck me
as odd
The 3 quarts I was able to get at Wal-Mart were like $5.40 a quart or so (don't
remember exactly) and the 6 quarts I picked up at Autozone got me case pricing
of like $36.50 or so (again not sure). Without the case price the Autozone oil
was almost exactly $1/quart more, by the case of 6 it was
On Jun 27, 2006, at 4:36 AM, Stephen MurD Murrell wrote:
?!?!?; 240D engine; I would be lucky to get 1/2 of their starting
price
for my (WHOLE CAR) 1979 240D with my remanufactured engine in it
with
MOST all NEW parts, pistons sleeves; mine looked better, when
rebuilt
in my CLEAN
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From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone happan to have downloaded the on-line manual
section for IP removal?
on 6/24/06 10:53 AM, Marshall Booth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, thought I had put it into the subject line.
1982
Yes, this one has me puzzled. I am out of ideas, other than trying to
replace the copper seals. I believe the electric fuel pump would have
supplied at least 10 psi even if the relief valve on the back of the pump
was wide open. I have not checked for fuel pressure with a gauge.
At 09:37
On my way into work today my low oil light came on. Oil pressure was
fine, so I continued on another minute or 2 and the light went
out. A few miles later I noticed that my oil pressure had started to
fall. When it dipped below .5 bar, I shut off the motor and coasted
to the side of the
Yeah, replace the gauge. Or install a 2nd gauge. A mechanical style with no
electrical sending unit.
what kind of car is this?
-Michael
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From: J.B. Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jun 27, 2006 12:18 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ]
Grrr... totally forgot to mention the car is a '95 E300D with 214,000
miles running on M1 5W40.
At 12:18 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote:
On my way into work today my low oil light came on. Oil pressure was
fine, so I continued on another minute or 2 and the light went
out. A few miles later I
Curt Raymond wrote:
The 3 quarts I was able to get at Wal-Mart were like $5.40 a quart or so (don't
remember exactly) and the 6 quarts I picked up at Autozone got me case pricing
of like $36.50 or so (again not sure). Without the case price the Autozone oil
was almost exactly $1/quart more,
I was talking with a co-worker yesterday about getting the AC working in our
MBs. She has a pristine '83 300D, and with the heatwave we're experiencing
up here--it's all relative folks--we'd both like to find a place locally to
re-charge our R12 systems without converting to 134a like all the
RICHARD FIne wrote:
I would like to bypass my AC compressor and use a smaller fanbelt that will not
attach to the AC compressor pulley. My system does not work, and would rather
get the somewhat improved mileage.
And exactly what car/year do you own that uses power and fuel when the
AC
What would one of the old tube type in good working condition be worth?
Not too much, actually. They're so big, and so hot, and so
persnickety, and so low-performing. Hard to ship.
-- Jim
Do you have Acrobat reader installed?? If you don't, there's your problem!
It downloads immediately to a pdf.
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
J.B. Hebert wrote:
On my way into work today my low oil light came on. Oil pressure was
fine, so I continued on another minute or 2 and the light went
out. A few miles later I noticed that my oil pressure had started to
fall. When it dipped below .5 bar, I shut off the motor and coasted
to
Don't know about WA, but before I left FL, I had my R12 cars serviced
several times in the last year or two in the $100-200 range depending on how
much R12 they required.
But also consider an alternative like Envirosafe ES12a, see
http://autorefrigerants.com/. This is probably a DIY solution. I
What about the 'vette splitting in half? Did you know there was a hole there?
The old guys in the Mercedes are great.
Please drive at a rate befitting our age and status in life
-Curt
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:52:03 -0400
From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] FSM
Isn't that what happens when the rubber o rings on the oil filter stalk thingus
fail?
I changed the oil in my 190D last weekend and when I went to pull the o rings
off they split into many little pieces and fell on the ground... Sure glad I
thought to replace them.
-Curt
Date:
I'm not sure the effect would be so immediate and
drastic, unless one or both of the o-rings came
off while I was putting it back together. Both
o-rings were pliable and had no signs of
cracking. I'll check this evening when I check the filter.
J.B.
At 02:08 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote:
J.B. Hebert wrote:
I'm not sure the effect would be so immediate and
drastic, unless one or both of the o-rings came
off while I was putting it back together. Both
o-rings were pliable and had no signs of
cracking. I'll check this evening when I check the filter.
I can't imagine that even
Curt wrote: the MTD had thrown a rod CLEAN OUT THE SIDE OF THE ENGINE
Hi Curt,
My Craftsman pushmower did something similar - pulled the rope and it
was *very* easy to pull - it appears the rod has broken allowing the crank
to turn without creating any compression - It might be worth fixin
Have you owned maintained the car since new? I had a 280S that the PO
failed to have regular oil changes - the intake screen on the oil pump
pickup was partially clogged with debris and it would act as you describe as
it starved for oil. Had another used MB with similar symptoms that had a
Hey Jim, thanks for the link. Are you still running the isobutane/propane
mix in your rigs? I was recently given an ancient Bear brand A/C recovery
unit (minus some key components), so now I have access to lots of spare R-12
hoses and fittings. I gather it would be unwise to operate the
archer wrote:
What would one of the old tube type in good working condition be worth? I
have one but it's buried in the attic and I don't remember the name. I was
concerned about getting replacement tubes but a friend who sells tubes on
the internet said there would be no problem.
Jim Cathey wrote:
I have a 2336 that has already lost the HV once, and now has an
intermittent focus. Not a very robust model as it turns out.
That's too bad. I wonder if it has anything to do with it being a
portable 'scope -- it may have been knocked around some, in its
previous life.
John M McIntosh wrote:
I think on the www.bobistheoilguy.com forums http://
theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi
they have a contest for who runs their mower the longest without
ever changing the oil, something like 20 years?
Mower engines tend to be really over-built. I
Curt Raymond wrote:
Isn't that what happens when the rubber o rings on the oil filter stalk
thingus fail?
I don't think it's anywhere near that dramatic. On my '83 300D Turbo
they were so hard I had to chip them out with a screwdriver to replace
them, but replacing them made very little
This pre-beta version of a battery demand calculator was posted over on a
Vanagon listserv. Thought some of you electro-savvy types would like to
take a look and critique.
http://www.altavistaaudio.com/Westy/Vanagon/battcalc.html
--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent
Give me the tube numbers and I'll see if I can find them. I have a LOT
of tube connections.
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
I'd add one more disclaimer -- that the amp-hour ratings on batteries
usually assume discharging to a pretty low level, one below the point at
which most inverters will cut out. I don't remember the exact figure,
but I think it's something like 10.5 volts. You may only get 50% of the
rated power
I see Rusty offers a 9 blade plastic radiator fan for the
123s, compared to the stock 6 blade aluminum one. Has anyone tried the 9
blade one to see if it offers any noticeable cooling improvement? Is it
noisier?
Peter Ferguson
1983 300TD
That's too bad. I wonder if it has anything to do with it being a
portable 'scope -- it may have been knocked around some, in its
previous life.
Hard to say. The price was right, at the time. Is definitely superior
to the Griefkit, when it works. I have it buried in the bench as a
bench
Yup, 90 miles a day. Analysis at ~5000 miles showed soot at .6% but grade had
fallen to 40. I think I was sloppy and didn't get all the old conventional oil
out, it was February, I was working outside, sue me.
I took another sample when I changed at ~7300 miles, we'll see what that
shows.
Thanks for the suggestion. Am I correct in assuming that the low oil
light and the oil pressure gauge are on separate circuits?
Yes, completely unrelated circuits, except that they do share grounds.
(Both engine and inside the cluster.)
-- Jim
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