Re: [MBZ] 240D vents
Yes-thanks all. I had not driven the 78 in awhile and have sold the 79-but when Indy put in left side heat control, he wondered why no heat in center-I told him I thought by design in Stuttgart. Now that I can shut the heat off, I will go back to daily driving the 240D. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D vents That's how every MB I've owned, from the '70 220D to the '92 300D have worked. I think I see a pattern here --- Memory check-center vents on a 79 240D are for fresh air and AC-not heat? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 9
That's truely frightening (see below). One other comment - are the immigrants Dan was talking about Legal immigrants or people who are here illegally? In which case they're not immigrants as much as criminals. --- Larry - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 9 Dan Weeks wrote: This country was built by hard-working immigrants--most of our forefathers, grandfathers, or great-grandfathers. I think it will be redeemed by the current generation of hard-working immigrants and their children. Nope. Their children are picking up the worst of our lazy habits with incredible speed. I recently read an article about a woman about my age, USA born daughter of an immigrant who worked 45 years on a GM production line. She has never worked a day in her life, and complains that she has to watch her budget because the government only gives her free housing, free medical care, and $800 a month in cash and food stamps. Particularly telling was the claim that most everybody she knows, friends and family, is unemployed. How do we get from people like her father to parasites like her and her siblings in one generation? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood coat #5
Alex said... Curt, I'm curious, what are you using to do the sanding? IIRC the original 50-dollar-paint-job guy said that on his Corvair the sander or buffer, I forget which, made a big difference, so he was glad that he had a good one (which didn't count towards the $50, of course). *** Good Point, Alex. Tools are CAPITAL costs and don't count against EXPENSES ;-) Royce Engler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to
Kaleb, Hope all is well with Mom and new son...You'll be in our thoughts and prayers. Royce Engler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
The battery in this one is so bad that it drains all the power the alternator
can produce...
It'll go about 5 miles before it quits. New battery is ordered and should be in
today.
Which is good, I've been commuting with my wife's '89 Kawasaki 454 LTD which is
REALLY small. I'm very saddle sore.
-Curt
--- On Tue, 9/2/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 10:33 PM
My first bike ('62 BMW R69S) had a magneto for ignition - didn't know
if the battery was good till you needed the head light -- kind of like
a Diesel MB, except that you can't kick start the MB.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Did I mention fixing the starter in my pickup the other day?
My wife and I had gone for a motorcycle ride which lasted until the bike
quit (out of electricity) about 2 miles from home.
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
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Re: [MBZ] Truck for sale
Thats a 2wd though right? Looks like an '07 (for example) F150 will do about the same mileage as my Dakota With the wife driving the 240D (nearly double the mpg) it seems do-able. Not a new truck for me though I think. -Curt --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truck for sale To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 12:45 AM Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Theres an F150 for sale near here that I need to stop and look at. Its marked at $4500 which seems really low for a new body style F150 You can buy a new one for under $10K. Dealers are DESPARATE to move these gas guzzlers. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
Often started my '31 Model A Ford by parking on slight hill; pull away from
curb, let it roll coupla feet, let the clutch out; voila - drive away under
power. 240D with manual tranny oughta do it, too.
Wilton
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My first bike ('62 BMW R69S) had a magneto for ignition - didn't know
if the battery was good till you needed the head light -- kind of like
a Diesel MB, except that you can't kick start the MB.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did I mention fixing the starter in my pickup the other day?
My wife and I had gone for a motorcycle ride which lasted until the bike
quit (out of electricity) about 2 miles from home.
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 9
LarryT wrote: That's truely frightening (see below). NPR changed the title, it was originally For Some Ohioans, Even Meat Is Out Of Reach, now it's Struggling In Ohio As The Economy Tightens. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92592545 I found the article through this forum, which was making fun of it: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/844982 For these people, social welfare programs have been a terrible influence on their lives. And now that we've raised a generation or two of parasites that are only good for eating and breeding, what can we do about it? I don't think medical science has perfected ambition transplant surgery yet, and if they did, where would they find enough donors? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
Wilton Strickland wrote: Often started my '31 Model A Ford by parking on slight hill; pull away from curb, let it roll coupla feet, let the clutch out; voila - drive away under power. 240D with manual tranny oughta do it, too. If you have a big enough hill, you can do it with an automatic 240D too. I made about 50 pizza deliveries one night without a starter on my Citation. There was a minor (maybe 6-8) rise leading up to the storefront. I could bump start it in reverse while backing out of my parking space. At the destination I left the car running. After we finished cleaning the place up and were ready to go home, my engine was cold and I had to have a coworker push start me with his Escort. He shoved me up to 10 mph and hit the brakes, then I dropped the clutch in 2nd and it fired right up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
Often started my '31 Model A Ford by parking on slight hill; pull away from curb, let it roll coupla feet, let the clutch out; voila - drive away under power. 240D with manual tranny oughta do it, too. The diesel will be a bit more reluctant, though, that whole glow plug thing. I did the same trick with the '60 Falcon. Didn't take much of a roll to get it started in second gear. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
Not enough hills around tere. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever Often started my '31 Model A Ford by parking on slight hill; pull away from curb, let it roll coupla feet, let the clutch out; voila - drive away under power. 240D with manual tranny oughta do it, too. The diesel will be a bit more reluctant, though, that whole glow plug thing. I did the same trick with the '60 Falcon. Didn't take much of a roll to get it started in second gear. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.15/1648 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 5:29 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.15/1648 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 5:29 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been
While I doubt the ability of about any young male to be a totally trustworthy gentleman, mothers generally loved me - perhaps because they couldn't read my mind [or that I seldom acted on those teenage fantasies]? It is interesting to notice what difference a few years make, though. My darling wife met me when she was 15 and I was 19. I met her when she was 17 and I was 21 [Summer camp she attended and I worked at.] That couple of years made it a different thing. 33 years married now and she can still trust me. Her mom was right, though IIRC marriage and children was not the first thing on my mind when we met... BillR Jacksonville FL [hopefully not with a hurricane target on top of us] 1981 300SD 304k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I'm sure you're still a trustworthy gentleman, and no disrespect to you is meant, but not if my daughter were the one in the 8th grade. (What - 14!!?? You're right - doubtful. No, not even doubful.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I could have dated her in high school -- if you'd let a high school senior date an 8th grader. (Doubtful -- but back then you'd not have known what a trustworthy gentleman I am.) D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my first born, a little blonde girl, will be 51 day-after tomorrow. Time goes too fast. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
Thanks, will check it out. Last time I had a head gasket blow like that, it idled really rough though. No telling though, will check it out. dave walton wrote: Wife works in NICU for last 20+ years. It's amazing how screwed up kids can be when they first come out and how a week later they are perfectly normal. Best of luck. Also possibly a blown head gasket on the 140 at the oil chamber in front of the #1 cylinder. It's a known weak spot. Your symptoms match mine when the gasket blew. If that is the problem and you continue to crank the car, you will bend the #1 connecting rod. Remove all the injectors and crank the engine until you start building up oil pressure. If you see an oil mist coming from the #1 cylinder, that's the culprit. -Dave Walton On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Started out the labor day holiday by finishing up the tranny install on the 190D. Got it buttoned up, dropped the pan, no crap in the pan, it looked great. New filter, filled it up with fluid, engine running, lots of leakage from the front area. CRAP front seal. On a fluke though I would rotate around to make sure plug is tight in converter. It was loose. Tightened it up, no more leak. WHEW, dodged a bullet. Fluid at correct level, tranny pulls into drive and reverse instantly. Take it out for a drive, wont shift past 2nd. If you get on the pedal, will drop to first, and wont upshift, but if you put it in neutral then back in drive, will go to 2nd but no further. Crap. More on this issue at a later date. Was in the middle of messing with that when Regina (who has been having contractions all afternoon) calls dr office (obgyn). Our dr who is in the military was called to service overseas, get this, he is with Dick Chaney right now. For what I dont know. Dr on call says come to hospital to be checked out. I come in get cleaned up, we hop in the 140 and head over to Owasso to the hosipital. We get there about 5:30 they check her out. She is still 3.5 weeks early so they give her whatever to try and stop it. Not working. Later we move down to a delivery room. At this point, I decide to go get something to eat real quick. I run down in the 140 to get a burger. Afterward, getting on the highway in the 140, all the sudden something lets go, I have non-turbo like performance, and the most MASSIVE smoke screen you have ever seen in your life. Its so bad both sides of the expressway have no visibility. It was BAD!!. Get up to the next exit and get off. Limping it back to hospital. Pretty soon oil light comes on, its loosing oil quick. Get it in the parking lot, it runs fine, sounds fine, just smokes like nothing you have ever seen. Im thinking the turbo seal let go. Time for a new turbo I guess. Crap. Its still at the hospital, Im back home, getting ready to head back over there with the trailer. So I get back to hospital. Things progress. At 9:53 my first son Spencer is born, 5lb 14 oz. Labor went fine (on labor day), no problems there. Everything was fine with the baby, then he starts getting to where he stops breathing. Crap. To make a long story short, he had to be taken via chopper to a much larger hosipital in Tulsa. There he was put on a resirator because he quit breathing completely on his own. He has been there all night while we remained at first hospital. Anyway, I got around over there to seem him a little while ago in ICU. While there, they had adjusted it down so far next step was to take him off it. So they took it out. So far he is breathing on his own, but still takes spells of it going up, then down etc. So he may have to go back on it. Anyway, thats how my day went yesterday and today. More updates later. If I am working on a car deal with you, I will be continuing discussions soon. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM --
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to
We too tried for about 4 years, gave up. Got the kids from Maine. Got pregnant and the rest is history. Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: So I get back to hospital. Things progress. At 9:53 my first son Spencer is born, 5lb 14 oz. Labor went fine (on labor day), no problems there. That is quite a story. Congratulations on your son. He will be in our thoughts and prayers. Since we are writing about babies, I can tell you all about our situation. My wife and I have been trying for a LONG time. So, we go see a fertility specialist. They put my wife on Clomid and do all the tests. Evidently one of the ovaries is blocked. The clomid is working because when they did the mid-cycle scan they found 3 follicles ready to go. They all measured very well (I don't know what most of this means). So, now within 24-36 we do the deed. According to the doctor my tests were off the charts and the marines are very high in number, and excellent swimmers. Here's the thing, the follicles measure very well and are considered very viable. So, I am freaking out that we are going to have triplets. HELP! Anyone have one of those LWB 123's. Can you put three car seats in one those? Does anyone have experience with these fertility drugs or fertility problems. It helps just to write about this. Donald H. Snook 1990 Volvo 240DL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The MB CC guy in TN
you talking about old uncle george? Glenn Brown wrote: I've informed/warned others on the list about this gentleman previously as he sold me an ACC PB unit I didn't need. Go elsewhere! G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The MB CC guy in TN
i'm amazed how that guy just keeps on keeping on. i'd have figured he'd have been kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: you talking about old uncle george? Glenn Brown wrote: I've informed/warned others on the list about this gentleman previously as he sold me an ACC PB unit I didn't need. Go elsewhere! G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad,
I think banned is archives, but only can be accessed by subscribers. Mercedes is archived and it public, and its also archived on a 3rd part site for the search function. Wonko the Sane wrote: However -- Mercedes is archived and Banned isn't. Why do you think there is a Banned? On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lt Don wrote: I am sure that your wife is overjoyed that her ovarian health is now cached forever on the Internet. Yea, I thought about that. Mostly, it just helped for me to write about it. Not really something you talk about it. So, I thought I would send it to people I barely know. The ironic part of that is that this community of Mercedes enthusiasts probably knows more about each other than our closest friends. We are, even with differences in politics, religion, and other topics, a VERY tightly knit group. I guess that would make us all friends, even though most of us have never met in person. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
Well, this car has used oil since I got it. Just assumed bent rods and would put a new engine in it down the road sometime. I then started to suspect turbo because there is NO blowby, and I keep getting things like the ALDA gooped up from oily crap. Though it might be oil from the turbo. Anyway, will be getting into it soon. Peter Frederick wrote: What a day! Glad your son is doing fine, they are very scary at that age, so tiny! If you are lucky, the turbo died on the W140 and is making lots of oil smoke -- this particular symptom got one of the guys on the Mercedesshop group a W140 cheap. Smoked like crazy (fogged things out) but was very much oil smoke. Fixed with a new turbo. Best of luck to you, the wife, and your son! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad,
if you subscribe to banned, you can get the archives that way I think, but they are not open to the public. I may have it setup to not archive at all, I cant remember. Rick Knoble wrote: However -- Mercedes is archived and Banned isn't. Why do you think there is a Banned? I know Mercedes is archived. I did a Google search for something or other and turned up a post by Hendrik. I was not aware that was one of the reasons for banned. Kaleb mentioned the was a debate on Sarah Palin on banned and I was gonna look it up on the archives. Guess that isn't gonna happen. I was on there a while back and the email volume was overwhelming, most of it personal attacks and such drivel. Not my cup of tea. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
Will get that check out to you ASAP. Was a lifesaver. Frederick W Moir wrote: Kaleb and family Congrats on the new arrival! Excellant news. Hope the next 20 years are a breeze. 190D converter screw loose. That is my loose screw! I Knew there was something that I'd forgotten to tell you. Mea culpa. Kindest regards to all. Fred Moir Lynn MA. At 02:08 PM 9/2/2008, you wrote: Started out the labor day holiday by finishing up the tranny install on the 190D. Got it buttoned up, dropped the pan, no crap in the pan, it looked great. New filter, filled it up with fluid, engine running, lots of leakage from the front area. CRAP front seal. On a fluke though I would rotate around to make sure plug is tight in converter. It was loose. Tightened it up, no more leak. WHEW, dodged a bullet. Was in the middle of messing with that when Regina (who has been having contractions all afternoon) calls dr office (obgyn). Our dr who is in So I get back to hospital. Things progress. At 9:53 my first son Spencer is born, 5lb 14 oz. Labor went fine (on labor day), no problems there. Everything was fine with the baby, then he starts getting to ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been
My wife was 15, I was 18 1/2. We held out for nearly a year. 'Been married nearly 52 years. She was a mighty fine looking young lady (fully grown, too); 'still is. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been While I doubt the ability of about any young male to be a totally trustworthy gentleman, mothers generally loved me - perhaps because they couldn't read my mind [or that I seldom acted on those teenage fantasies]? It is interesting to notice what difference a few years make, though. My darling wife met me when she was 15 and I was 19. I met her when she was 17 and I was 21 [Summer camp she attended and I worked at.] That couple of years made it a different thing. 33 years married now and she can still trust me. Her mom was right, though IIRC marriage and children was not the first thing on my mind when we met... BillR Jacksonville FL [hopefully not with a hurricane target on top of us] 1981 300SD 304k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I'm sure you're still a trustworthy gentleman, and no disrespect to you is meant, but not if my daughter were the one in the 8th grade. (What - 14!!?? You're right - doubtful. No, not even doubful.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I could have dated her in high school -- if you'd let a high school senior date an 8th grader. (Doubtful -- but back then you'd not have known what a trustworthy gentleman I am.) D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my first born, a little blonde girl, will be 51 day-after tomorrow. Time goes too fast. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad,
Congratulations! Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Started out the labor day holiday by finishing up the tranny install on the 190D. Got it buttoned up, dropped the pan, no crap in the pan, it looked great. New filter, filled it up with fluid, engine running, lots of leakage from the front area. CRAP front seal. On a fluke though I would rotate around to make sure plug is tight in converter. It was loose. Tightened it up, no more leak. WHEW, dodged a bullet. Fluid at correct level, tranny pulls into drive and reverse instantly. Take it out for a drive, wont shift past 2nd. If you get on the pedal, will drop to first, and wont upshift, but if you put it in neutral then back in drive, will go to 2nd but no further. Crap. More on this issue at a later date. Was in the middle of messing with that when Regina (who has been having contractions all afternoon) calls dr office (obgyn). Our dr who is in the military was called to service overseas, get this, he is with Dick Chaney right now. For what I dont know. Dr on call says come to hospital to be checked out. I come in get cleaned up, we hop in the 140 and head over to Owasso to the hosipital. We get there about 5:30 they check her out. She is still 3.5 weeks early so they give her whatever to try and stop it. Not working. Later we move down to a delivery room. At this point, I decide to go get something to eat real quick. I run down in the 140 to get a burger. Afterward, getting on the highway in the 140, all the sudden something lets go, I have non-turbo like performance, and the most MASSIVE smoke screen you have ever seen in your life. Its so bad both sides of the expressway have no visibility. It was BAD!!. Get up to the next exit and get off. Limping it back to hospital. Pretty soon oil light comes on, its loosing oil quick. Get it in the parking lot, it runs fine, sounds fine, just smokes like nothing you have ever seen. Im thinking the turbo seal let go. Time for a new turbo I guess. Crap. Its still at the hospital, Im back home, getting ready to head back over there with the trailer. So I get back to hospital. Things progress. At 9:53 my first son Spencer is born, 5lb 14 oz. Labor went fine (on labor day), no problems there. Everything was fine with the baby, then he starts getting to where he stops breathing. Crap. To make a long story short, he had to be taken via chopper to a much larger hosipital in Tulsa. There he was put on a resirator because he quit breathing completely on his own. He has been there all night while we remained at first hospital. Anyway, I got around over there to seem him a little while ago in ICU. While there, they had adjusted it down so far next step was to take him off it. So they took it out. So far he is breathing on his own, but still takes spells of it going up, then down etc. So he may have to go back on it. Anyway, thats how my day went yesterday and today. More updates later. If I am working on a car deal with you, I will be continuing discussions soon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition
I like option #2. I'll join that revolt in a heartbeat! Luther Scott Ritchey wrote: We did things ourselves mainly because we had to, then. But it is fun too and gave satisfaction while producing self-reliant people. I guess I enjoy this list because (political views notwithstanding) most of the folks here are not afraid pick up a wrench and do what needs to be done. I am seriously concerned about the way the US is going. We have an energy-intensive economy but many (formerly most) people were not willing to drill for our own energy so we bought most of our oil from people that don't like us much. We exported our manufacturing because we were afraid of pollution and Americans were unwilling to get their hands dirty or to work for realistic wages. Now we're importing workers (from field hands to doctors) because Americans are too lazy to do those jobs or to get the required education. How many native-born Americans have jobs that produce actual wealth (something of value) these days? This can only lead to two outcomes (1) we sell off the country piecemeal until there is nothing of value left or (2) the new Americans (the Asians, Mexicans, and the few natives still willing to work) revolt and tell all the freeloaders where to get off. Scott Ritchey ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition
the addition of chondroitin and MSM also help glucosamine. Luther Curt Raymond wrote: I've got a history of back issues, inherited through my folks... First time it took out I was 18... If I stretch it regularly (like everyday) and take the glucosamine every day its good. If I don't Apparently not everybody responds to glucosamine, apparently I'm lucky on that one... -Curt --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 8:13 PM Just think -- this is as limber as you will ever be. What are you, 30? :-) Wait until you get to be my age, and then (later) Wilton's age!!! For me, the morning muscle stretch involves brushing my teeth. D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A week ago last Sunday I was sitting at the kitchen table waiting for my wife to get ready to go to breakfast when I felt my back start to spasm. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad,
BZZZTT, WRONG! Banned is archived also. It's private, though. http://okiebenz.com/mailman/private/banned_okiebenz.com/ Rick Knoble wrote: However -- Mercedes is archived and Banned isn't. Why do you think there is a Banned? I know Mercedes is archived. I did a Google search for something or other and turned up a post by Hendrik. I was not aware that was one of the reasons for banned. Kaleb mentioned the was a debate on Sarah Palin on banned and I was gonna look it up on the archives. Guess that isn't gonna happen. I was on there a while back and the email volume was overwhelming, most of it personal attacks and such drivel. Not my cup of tea. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
Kaleb and family. No rush, you have better and more important things to take care of. Has the anxiety been replaced by the absolute joy yet? I hope so! Fred Moir Lynn MA At 10:46 AM 9/3/2008, you wrote: Will get that check out to you ASAP. Was a lifesaver. Frederick W Moir wrote: Kaleb and family Congrats on the new arrival! Excellant news. Hope the next 20 years are a breeze. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
It seems than at Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:34:57 -0400, Wilton wrote: Often started my '31 Model A Ford by parking on slight hill; pull away from curb, let it roll coupla feet, let the clutch out; voila - drive away under power. 240D with manual tranny oughta do it, too. Wilton It can - if there's power for the glow plugs. Otherwise it takes a bit more rolling. --Philip - many, many miles with manual transmissions. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D vents
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's how every MB I've owned, from the '70 220D to the '92 300D have worked. I think I see a pattern here --- Memory check-center vents on a 79 240D are for fresh air and AC-not heat? Under some circumstances the center vents in a 124 will in fact produce heated air by design. Some who should know better have made claims to the contrary (RIP Marshall!), but it's right there in the FSM---the section is entitled Function of automatic climate control system or some such. I have observed said behavior on my 124s, particularly on fall or spring days where it's cool in the morning then warms up, and the ACC starts the day by heating the cabin, then transitions gradually to cooling. However, most of the time you get either cooled or straight outside air (depending on whether you're in EC mode or not) from the center vents, just like on the 123, 114/115, and 107. I'm not sure about the 126 or 201 chassis. I would think any indy worth his salt would know all this! (But sometimes there are strange gaps in their understanding of the cars they work on. An Audi specialist I know, who did some great work on the '86 4000 quattro I used to have, consistently described the manual differential lock switch on that car as turning on the four-wheel-drive despite the fact that first-generation quattros are _always_ in four-wheel-drive mode.) Alex Chamberlain passel o' 124s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been
That is a good start. You think that teenage romance of yours will last? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been My wife was 15, I was 18 1/2. We held out for nearly a year. 'Been married nearly 52 years. She was a mighty fine looking young lady (fully grown, too); 'still is. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been While I doubt the ability of about any young male to be a totally trustworthy gentleman, mothers generally loved me - perhaps because they couldn't read my mind [or that I seldom acted on those teenage fantasies]? It is interesting to notice what difference a few years make, though. My darling wife met me when she was 15 and I was 19. I met her when she was 17 and I was 21 [Summer camp she attended and I worked at.] That couple of years made it a different thing. 33 years married now and she can still trust me. Her mom was right, though IIRC marriage and children was not the first thing on my mind when we met... BillR Jacksonville FL [hopefully not with a hurricane target on top of us] 1981 300SD 304k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I'm sure you're still a trustworthy gentleman, and no disrespect to you is meant, but not if my daughter were the one in the 8th grade. (What - 14!!?? You're right - doubtful. No, not even doubful.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I could have dated her in high school -- if you'd let a high school senior date an 8th grader. (Doubtful -- but back then you'd not have known what a trustworthy gentleman I am.) D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my first born, a little blonde girl, will be 51 day-after tomorrow. Time goes too fast. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
Wilton Strickland wrote: Often started my '31 Model A Ford by parking on slight hill; pull away from curb, let it roll coupla feet, let the clutch out; voila - drive away under power. 240D with manual tranny oughta do it, too. Only opportunity I've ever had to do that trick was on a friend-of-a-girlfriend's Vanagon. It had a dead battery and nobody had any jumper cables, and the girl needed to go somewhere in a hurry. They were about to give up and call for a tow when I offered to roll-start it. The hardest part was muscling the steering wheel around without the power assist! (Why is a car with nonfunctional power steering so much harder to steer than one with no power steering at all? Parasitic drag, so to speak, from the hydraulics?) Anyway, the van was at the top of a Seattle hill, so it was easy to get up enough coasting speed to do the trick and start it, once I got away from the curb. That earned me a few chivalry points. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers
Gary, Although, as I understood it at the time, he knew very little more than how to spell computer, he was one of those in the oligarchy back then primarily responsible for getting Kathy Kennel fired from her listmom posisition on the original MBCA E-list. We've got people on this list who understand the overly complex M-B electronic modules as good/better than this poor individual. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been
'Beginning to think it may last if I don't mess it up. We've been lucky. BTW, I thought I was a very trustworthy gentleman, too, but it took her only about a year to break me. 'Took us 4 years to get married. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been That is a good start. You think that teenage romance of yours will last? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been My wife was 15, I was 18 1/2. We held out for nearly a year. 'Been married nearly 52 years. She was a mighty fine looking young lady (fully grown, too); 'still is. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been While I doubt the ability of about any young male to be a totally trustworthy gentleman, mothers generally loved me - perhaps because they couldn't read my mind [or that I seldom acted on those teenage fantasies]? It is interesting to notice what difference a few years make, though. My darling wife met me when she was 15 and I was 19. I met her when she was 17 and I was 21 [Summer camp she attended and I worked at.] That couple of years made it a different thing. 33 years married now and she can still trust me. Her mom was right, though IIRC marriage and children was not the first thing on my mind when we met... BillR Jacksonville FL [hopefully not with a hurricane target on top of us] 1981 300SD 304k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I'm sure you're still a trustworthy gentleman, and no disrespect to you is meant, but not if my daughter were the one in the 8th grade. (What - 14!!?? You're right - doubtful. No, not even doubful.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I could have dated her in high school -- if you'd let a high school senior date an 8th grader. (Doubtful -- but back then you'd not have known what a trustworthy gentleman I am.) D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my first born, a little blonde girl, will be 51 day-after tomorrow. Time goes too fast. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers
i just remember when he and his friends had that putsch. apparently, they even called on the FBI to investigate me :) what was his partner in crime's name? bob belz? i'm amazed that he is allowed to stay in the club after his hijinx, let alone hold a high position. my favorite was when he got that canadian rube on the 116. that was a riot. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Although, as I understood it at the time, he knew very little more than how to spell computer, he was one of those in the oligarchy back then primarily responsible for getting Kathy Kennel fired from her listmom posisition on the original MBCA E-list. We've got people on this list who understand the overly complex M-B electronic modules as good/better than this poor individual. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D vents
Alex- Actually this is a 123 not a 124. Also it doesn't have the ACC of the 300D's-it is the old two sided manual controls with a separate blower switch and separate AC system. As for the Indy-he is not a MB mechanic but so far has done well by my 123's. he recused himself on testing CC on my 124. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 12:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D vents On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's how every MB I've owned, from the '70 220D to the '92 300D have worked. I think I see a pattern here --- Memory check-center vents on a 79 240D are for fresh air and AC-not heat? Under some circumstances the center vents in a 124 will in fact produce heated air by design. Some who should know better have made claims to the contrary (RIP Marshall!), but it's right there in the FSM---the section is entitled Function of automatic climate control system or some such. I have observed said behavior on my 124s, particularly on fall or spring days where it's cool in the morning then warms up, and the ACC starts the day by heating the cabin, then transitions gradually to cooling. However, most of the time you get either cooled or straight outside air (depending on whether you're in EC mode or not) from the center vents, just like on the 123, 114/115, and 107. I'm not sure about the 126 or 201 chassis. I would think any indy worth his salt would know all this! (But sometimes there are strange gaps in their understanding of the cars they work on. An Audi specialist I know, who did some great work on the '86 4000 quattro I used to have, consistently described the manual differential lock switch on that car as turning on the four-wheel-drive despite the fact that first-generation quattros are _always_ in four-wheel-drive mode.) Alex Chamberlain passel o' 124s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been
15 was an old maid in the deep south a half century ago. first cousins or second? On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: My wife was 15, I was 18 1/2. We held out for nearly a year. 'Been married nearly 52 years. She was a mighty fine looking young lady (fully grown, too); 'still is. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been While I doubt the ability of about any young male to be a totally trustworthy gentleman, mothers generally loved me - perhaps because they couldn't read my mind [or that I seldom acted on those teenage fantasies]? It is interesting to notice what difference a few years make, though. My darling wife met me when she was 15 and I was 19. I met her when she was 17 and I was 21 [Summer camp she attended and I worked at.] That couple of years made it a different thing. 33 years married now and she can still trust me. Her mom was right, though IIRC marriage and children was not the first thing on my mind when we met... BillR Jacksonville FL [hopefully not with a hurricane target on top of us] 1981 300SD 304k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I'm sure you're still a trustworthy gentleman, and no disrespect to you is meant, but not if my daughter were the one in the 8th grade. (What - 14!!?? You're right - doubtful. No, not even doubful.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I could have dated her in high school -- if you'd let a high school senior date an 8th grader. (Doubtful -- but back then you'd not have known what a trustworthy gentleman I am.) D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my first born, a little blonde girl, will be 51 day-after tomorrow. Time goes too fast. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition
I've had it both ways and never noticed any difference. Glucosamine by itself is cheaper... --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 11:13 AM the addition of chondroitin and MSM also help glucosamine. Luther Curt Raymond wrote: I've got a history of back issues, inherited through my folks... First time it took out I was 18... If I stretch it regularly (like everyday) and take the glucosamine every day its good. If I don't Apparently not everybody responds to glucosamine, apparently I'm lucky on that one... -Curt --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 8:13 PM Just think -- this is as limber as you will ever be. What are you, 30? :-) Wait until you get to be my age, and then (later) Wilton's age!!! For me, the morning muscle stretch involves brushing my teeth. D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A week ago last Sunday I was sitting at the kitchen table waiting for my wife to get ready to go to breakfast when I felt my back start to spasm. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D vents
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex- Actually this is a 123 not a 124. Also it doesn't have the ACC of the 300D's-it is the old two sided manual controls with a separate blower switch and separate AC system. Yeah, I know you were talking about a 123. :) I was responding to OK Don's statement that his '92 300D 2.5 Turbo (124) worked just like all the other M-Bs he had known. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition
My pharmacist says the condroitin makes a difference but not the MSN. FWIW. (I take 3 a day) Dwight Star Motors and Shellfish Co. Shucking but no Jiving Dwight Giles, Jr Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Luther Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition I've had it both ways and never noticed any difference. Glucosamine by itself is cheaper... --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 11:13 AM the addition of chondroitin and MSM also help glucosamine. Luther Curt Raymond wrote: I've got a history of back issues, inherited through my folks... First time it took out I was 18... If I stretch it regularly (like everyday) and take the glucosamine every day its good. If I don't Apparently not everybody responds to glucosamine, apparently I'm lucky on that one... -Curt --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 8:13 PM Just think -- this is as limber as you will ever be. What are you, 30? :-) Wait until you get to be my age, and then (later) Wilton's age!!! For me, the morning muscle stretch involves brushing my teeth. D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A week ago last Sunday I was sitting at the kitchen table waiting for my wife to get ready to go to breakfast when I felt my back start to spasm. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D vents
Oh OK-I will watch my 300D 2.5t one of these upcoming fall mornings then. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- Yeah, I know you were talking about a 123. :) I was responding to OK Don's statement that his '92 300D 2.5 Turbo (124) worked just like all the other M-Bs he had known. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The MB CC guy in TN
He's also one of seven names on the ballot for four Director At Large positions on the MBCA Board, along with our very own Chuck L. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm amazed how that guy just keeps on keeping on. i'd have figured he'd have been kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you talking about old uncle george? Glenn Brown wrote: I've informed/warned others on the list about this gentleman previously as he sold me an ACC PB unit I didn't need. Go elsewhere! G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers
Bob Beltz. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just remember when he and his friends had that putsch. apparently, they even called on the FBI to investigate me :) what was his partner in crime's name? bob belz? i'm amazed that he is allowed to stay in the club after his hijinx, let alone hold a high position. my favorite was when he got that canadian rube on the 116. that was a riot. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Although, as I understood it at the time, he knew very little more than how to spell computer, he was one of those in the oligarchy back then primarily responsible for getting Kathy Kennel fired from her listmom posisition on the original MBCA E-list. We've got people on this list who understand the overly complex M-B electronic modules as good/better than this poor individual. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers
FBI? What the heck for? You selling black market Benz parts again? -Rolf Gary Hurst wrote: i just remember when he and his friends had that putsch. apparently, they even called on the FBI to investigate me :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers
no, i said the club needed to get rid of murphy, so he and belz say they called the FBI to investigate my murder threats. those were heady days of the murphy putsch. nothing so exciting ever happens anymore. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FBI? What the heck for? You selling black market Benz parts again? -Rolf Gary Hurst wrote: i just remember when he and his friends had that putsch. apparently, they even called on the FBI to investigate me :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been
This is not the DEEP south. No cousin. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been 15 was an old maid in the deep south a half century ago. first cousins or second? On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: My wife was 15, I was 18 1/2. We held out for nearly a year. 'Been married nearly 52 years. She was a mighty fine looking young lady (fully grown, too); 'still is. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been While I doubt the ability of about any young male to be a totally trustworthy gentleman, mothers generally loved me - perhaps because they couldn't read my mind [or that I seldom acted on those teenage fantasies]? It is interesting to notice what difference a few years make, though. My darling wife met me when she was 15 and I was 19. I met her when she was 17 and I was 21 [Summer camp she attended and I worked at.] That couple of years made it a different thing. 33 years married now and she can still trust me. Her mom was right, though IIRC marriage and children was not the first thing on my mind when we met... BillR Jacksonville FL [hopefully not with a hurricane target on top of us] 1981 300SD 304k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I'm sure you're still a trustworthy gentleman, and no disrespect to you is meant, but not if my daughter were the one in the 8th grade. (What - 14!!?? You're right - doubtful. No, not even doubful.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I could have dated her in high school -- if you'd let a high school senior date an 8th grader. (Doubtful -- but back then you'd not have known what a trustworthy gentleman I am.) D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my first born, a little blonde girl, will be 51 day-after tomorrow. Time goes too fast. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been
When I lived in a small Indiana town [1972 - 1984] I think any girl who was not at least engaged by the time she was out of High School was thought of as rather slow. It's not all in the deep South. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been This is not the DEEP south. No cousin. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been 15 was an old maid in the deep south a half century ago. first cousins or second? On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: My wife was 15, I was 18 1/2. We held out for nearly a year. 'Been married nearly 52 years. She was a mighty fine looking young lady (fully grown, too); 'still is. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been While I doubt the ability of about any young male to be a totally trustworthy gentleman, mothers generally loved me - perhaps because they couldn't read my mind [or that I seldom acted on those teenage fantasies]? It is interesting to notice what difference a few years make, though. My darling wife met me when she was 15 and I was 19. I met her when she was 17 and I was 21 [Summer camp she attended and I worked at.] That couple of years made it a different thing. 33 years married now and she can still trust me. Her mom was right, though IIRC marriage and children was not the first thing on my mind when we met... BillR Jacksonville FL [hopefully not with a hurricane target on top of us] 1981 300SD 304k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I'm sure you're still a trustworthy gentleman, and no disrespect to you is meant, but not if my daughter were the one in the 8th grade. (What - 14!!?? You're right - doubtful. No, not even doubful.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I could have dated her in high school -- if you'd let a high school senior date an 8th grader. (Doubtful -- but back then you'd not have known what a trustworthy gentleman I am.) D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my first born, a little blonde girl, will be 51 day-after tomorrow. Time goes too fast. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers
geog murph? I never liked the shyster from Michigan. arrogant prick. Never met murph. At 01:45 PM 9/3/2008, you wrote: no, i said the club needed to get rid of murphy, so he and belz say they called the FBI to investigate my murder threats. those were heady days of the murphy putsch. nothing so exciting ever happens anymore. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FBI? What the heck for? You selling black market Benz parts again? -Rolf Gary Hurst wrote: i just remember when he and his friends had that putsch. apparently, they even called on the FBI to investigate me :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MBCA elections
Chuck, I got my ballot. Who should we want and who should we avoid? I guess there is some benefit in voting for Chuck, and no one else. Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA elections
Loren, The second statement is what I'm going to do. A vote for any other candidate diminishes my vote. Thanks. and the two bylaw changes are sort of benign and I suggest YES on both. Chuck. On Sep 3, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Chuck, I got my ballot. Who should we want and who should we avoid? I guess there is some benefit in voting for Chuck, and no one else. Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers
I'll see what I can do about livening up the party, I just got my card in the mail :) FBI pfft. -Rolf Gary Hurst wrote: no, i said the club needed to get rid of murphy, so he and belz say they called the FBI to investigate my murder threats. those were heady days of the murphy putsch. nothing so exciting ever happens anymore. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FBI? What the heck for? You selling black market Benz parts again? -Rolf Gary Hurst wrote: i just remember when he and his friends had that putsch. apparently, they even called on the FBI to investigate me :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA elections
Thanks At 04:18 PM 9/3/2008, you wrote: Loren, The second statement is what I'm going to do. A vote for any other candidate diminishes my vote. Thanks. and the two bylaw changes are sort of benign and I suggest YES on both. Chuck. On Sep 3, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Chuck, I got my ballot. Who should we want and who should we avoid? I guess there is some benefit in voting for Chuck, and no one else. Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
not sure, but what do you have going on? Christopher McCann wrote: specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
I dont think he is talking about torque converter bolts Tony Wirtel wrote: From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris B?nter u. B?gel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengeh?use Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) Chris- Shouldn't be any different from a 602, which has 6 bolts, paired together and visible through the cutout in the bottom of the block case. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo
in the 300E, it will get 28-29 on the highway with 87 Donald Snook wrote: I took my new acquisition, a 1990 Volvo 240DL, on a trip this weekend. We drove to Springfield, Missouri. It was about a 650 mile trip and I got 26.2 MPG driving 70-75. The car performed perfectly. I have noticed that if I use 87 octane, I get some pinging. I put 89 in and it cleared right up. Great car. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad,
thanks!! Luther wrote: Congratulations! -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
yea, its getting that way!! Frederick W Moir wrote: Kaleb and family. No rush, you have better and more important things to take care of. Has the anxiety been replaced by the absolute joy yet? I hope so! Fred Moir Lynn MA At 10:46 AM 9/3/2008, you wrote: Will get that check out to you ASAP. Was a lifesaver. Frederick W Moir wrote: Kaleb and family Congrats on the new arrival! Excellant news. Hope the next 20 years are a breeze. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.15/1649 - Release Date: 9/3/2008 7:15 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers
amen brother, you are correct. I remember all that well. The list was never the same after that, and eventually went away completely. Glenn Brown wrote: Gary, Although, as I understood it at the time, he knew very little more than how to spell computer, he was one of those in the oligarchy back then primarily responsible for getting Kathy Kennel fired from her listmom posisition on the original MBCA E-list. We've got people on this list who understand the overly complex M-B electronic modules as good/better than this poor individual. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.15/1649 - Release Date: 9/3/2008 7:15 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] kicked out of the mbca long ago, yet he prospers
oh what memories. I forgot about bob beltz or whatever his name was. Gary Hurst wrote: i just remember when he and his friends had that putsch. apparently, they even called on the FBI to investigate me :) what was his partner in crime's name? bob belz? i'm amazed that he is allowed to stay in the club after his hijinx, let alone hold a high position. my favorite was when he got that canadian rube on the 116. that was a riot. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Although, as I understood it at the time, he knew very little more than how to spell computer, he was one of those in the oligarchy back then primarily responsible for getting Kathy Kennel fired from her listmom posisition on the original MBCA E-list. We've got people on this list who understand the overly complex M-B electronic modules as good/better than this poor individual. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.15/1649 - Release Date: 9/3/2008 7:15 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
Get back to us after the constant 3 am feedings / diaper changes! On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: yea, its getting that way!! Frederick W Moir wrote: Kaleb and family. No rush, you have better and more important things to take care of. Has the anxiety been replaced by the absolute joy yet? I hope so! -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBCA elections
I should join just so I can vote for Chuck. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks At 04:18 PM 9/3/2008, you wrote: Loren, The second statement is what I'm going to do. A vote for any other candidate diminishes my vote. Thanks. and the two bylaw changes are sort of benign and I suggest YES on both. Chuck. On Sep 3, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Chuck, I got my ballot. Who should we want and who should we avoid? I guess there is some benefit in voting for Chuck, and no one else. Loren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
It will be OK, I will just let the wife do all that stuff :; Wonko the Sane wrote: Get back to us after the constant 3 am feedings / diaper changes! On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: yea, its getting that way!! Frederick W Moir wrote: Kaleb and family. No rush, you have better and more important things to take care of. Has the anxiety been replaced by the absolute joy yet? I hope so! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1650 - Release Date: 9/3/2008 4:13 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
I've met your wife. Several times. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It will be OK, I will just let the wife do all that stuff :; -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
hahahahaha Wonko the Sane wrote: I've met your wife. Several times. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It will be OK, I will just let the wife do all that stuff :; No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1650 - Release Date: 9/3/2008 4:13 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hood pad adhesive
Got a big box from Rusty today containing the hood pad for the 240D. Its never had one in the 5 years its been around me so I figure with the new hood its time. I've got a pad for my 190D too thats never been installed. What is the preferred hood pad adhesive? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
Those 3 AM feedings are a great reason to support breast feeding, as dad really can't do much more than offer to hold the 'bottle.' Wait a minute. I did all the diaper changes in the middle of the night and in the morning before taking the kid in to mom... Now that I think about it I got in such a habit of waking up and heading to the kids rooms before I was really awake that I had all the 'up at night' duty for many years. My darling wife had some hearing then and later admitted she would pretend to be asleep until I woke up and went in to see what the kids needed. You might want to think about that whole situation... BillR Pushover/slow learner in Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 304k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare Get back to us after the constant 3 am feedings / diaper changes! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to really bad, to really really bad, to nightmare
You've not met Regina, have you? That said, I encouraged my wife to nurse both of our kids! On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those 3 AM feedings are a great reason to support breast feeding, as dad really can't do much more than offer to hold the 'bottle.' -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D vents
Yeah, I know you were talking about a 123. :) I was responding to OK Don's statement that his '92 300D 2.5 Turbo (124) worked just like all the other M-Bs he had known. Some of the cars _can't_ emit warm air out the middle. The rest _shouldn't_. There are some plenum design varieties. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
(Why is a car with nonfunctional power steering so much harder to steer than one with no power steering at all? Parasitic drag, so to speak, from the hydraulics?) Some, but I'd bet more is because the system is designed for assist, and so has a smaller steering wheel and/or higher gearing in the steering box, making for 'more responsive' steering. So long as the boost is there. Same reason a car designed for AC but with it broken is much hotter to drive on a summer day than one that was never designed for AC. Usually such cars have much better vents. Both my Falcon and the Chevy pickup are pretty tolerable on a summer's day, whereas any of our MB's are not. The older vehicles have hefty floor vents and wing windows. Even the Frankenheap, which never had AC, is a car (115) designed to support AC. It has the wing windows, but without the floor vents you're screwed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D vents
Yea - I've noticed that warm air from the center vent, but chalked it up my needing to re-solder the PPU. In fact, I noticed it briefly tonight, along with cold coming from the center vents and warm from the side vents. Yeah, I know you were talking about a 123. :) I was responding to OK Don's statement that his '92 300D 2.5 Turbo (124) worked just like all the other M-Bs he had known. Alex -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive
What is the preferred hood pad adhesive? The official thing is a spray can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive. Super, not regular. Other stuff will work. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition
I've read and heard all of the above, and my Dr. just asks which is working for me. I buy which ever I can find at the lowest cost. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My pharmacist says the condroitin makes a difference but not the MSN. FWIW. (I take 3 a day) Dwight -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive
I used 3M super trim (or something) adhesive - worked great on two 124 hoods. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a big box from Rusty today containing the hood pad for the 240D. Its never had one in the 5 years its been around me so I figure with the new hood its time. I've got a pad for my 190D too thats never been installed. What is the preferred hood pad adhesive? -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D vents
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea - I've noticed that warm air from the center vent, but chalked it up my needing to re-solder the PPU. In fact, I noticed it briefly tonight, along with cold coming from the center vents and warm from the side vents. It's not a bug, it's a documented feature! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been
I felt pressured to get engaged my Freshman year of college. I did. 1971. She was #1 of 2 marriages. #2 is the last one. I was engaged at 17. Married at 21. I finally fell in love at 43. Still married to the 43 one and am not looking back -- or anywhere else. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I lived in a small Indiana town [1972 - 1984] I think any girl who was not at least engaged by the time she was out of High School was thought of as rather slow. It's not all in the deep South. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been This is not the DEEP south. No cousin. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been 15 was an old maid in the deep south a half century ago. first cousins or second? On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: My wife was 15, I was 18 1/2. We held out for nearly a year. 'Been married nearly 52 years. She was a mighty fine looking young lady (fully grown, too); 'still is. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good,to bad - to how trustworthy Wonko might have been While I doubt the ability of about any young male to be a totally trustworthy gentleman, mothers generally loved me - perhaps because they couldn't read my mind [or that I seldom acted on those teenage fantasies]? It is interesting to notice what difference a few years make, though. My darling wife met me when she was 15 and I was 19. I met her when she was 17 and I was 21 [Summer camp she attended and I worked at.] That couple of years made it a different thing. 33 years married now and she can still trust me. Her mom was right, though IIRC marriage and children was not the first thing on my mind when we met... BillR Jacksonville FL [hopefully not with a hurricane target on top of us] 1981 300SD 304k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I'm sure you're still a trustworthy gentleman, and no disrespect to you is meant, but not if my daughter were the one in the 8th grade. (What - 14!!?? You're right - doubtful. No, not even doubful.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How my day went from good, to bad, to good, to bad, to I could have dated her in high school -- if you'd let a high school senior date an 8th grader. (Doubtful -- but back then you'd not have known what a trustworthy gentleman I am.) D. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And my first born, a little blonde girl, will be 51 day-after tomorrow. Time goes too fast. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery
Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the preferred hood pad adhesive? I used Gorilla Glue on mine. Still holding great after 5 years. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive
There must be more than one kind of trim adhesive, theres a thread on Mercedes shop about using 8090. I'll see if I can get a can of that. It'll be interesting, one hood I can do in the garage (the 240D as its not yet installed) the other (the 190D will have to be done on the car... -Curt --- On Wed, 9/3/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 8:34 PM I used 3M super trim (or something) adhesive - worked great on two 124 hoods. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a big box from Rusty today containing the hood pad for the 240D. Its never had one in the 5 years its been around me so I figure with the new hood its time. I've got a pad for my 190D too thats never been installed. What is the preferred hood pad adhesive? -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best fix ever
Jim Cathey wrote: Some, but I'd bet more is because the system is designed for assist, and so has a smaller steering wheel and/or higher gearing in the steering box, making for 'more responsive' steering. So long as the boost is there. IME, a power rack and pinion without hydraulic pressure isn't much worse than a manual rack of similar gearing. A power recirculating ball gearbox is worse, but I can wrestle my 2.3-16 with the engine off as long as it's rolling. From what I've heard, the electric power racks are so stiff when they lose power that most drivers think the steering is locked. (some unhappy owners of early Saturn Ions and 2004 Chevy Mailbus out there because the system would shut down if it detected any flaw in itself, and it happened a little too frequently for comfort) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive
Allan Streib wrote: I used Gorilla Glue on mine. Still holding great after 5 years. Wait until the new pad dies and you want to scrape off that polyurethane and glue on another pad. At least you didn't use Liquid Nails, that stuff's invulnerable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PNP score :-) /Euro 126 headlight set
OK, Dave Luther, since you aren't beating my door down at that price, how about $150 free shipping? Chris Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:47:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] PNP score :-) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Dave and Luther, I'll sell the set for $200 with free shipping to the lower 48. It's what the last two sets went for on ebay (but with shipping charges of $19 and $32, I think). Let me know if you are interested. (Dave asked first, so he gets first dibs). Chris David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well that was kind of stupid!!! 126 Euro lights Dave, so what chassis do you think they might be for Dave?DUH!!! What is your asking price? Dave H... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:07:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] PNP score :-) What chassis are those lights for? Your asking? Dave H... Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:39:44 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] PNP score :-) Christopher McCann wrote: 1. a couple weeks ago I found a set of nice 126 Euro headlights. Cool. Will probably sell them as I personally don't like non-yellow fog lights and I already upgraded my US style lights to H4. You can get yellow bulbs if thats your cup of tea... Rusty might even sell them. Nice scores by the way :) John ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - parts that Rusty doesn't sell --- Rock Auto
Does anyone have experience with, or an opinion about Rock Auto? http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php I'm seeing lots of advertising from them all over the place, quoting lower prices than your typical McParts place. I'm thinking parts for the Plymouth van. Not enough good stuff in it for Rusty to mess with. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I dont think he is talking about torque converter bolts Good point- I simply thing of it as a flex plate; didn't have mine off when I redid the trans as the rear seal was dry. Given the weight of the TC empty, what does the flywheel weigh? Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
Friend Charlie bought a 5 speed 124 manny tranny off a Euro gasser and wants to put it in his '87 300TD. BUT, he is not sure how many bolts are on the engine (603) flywheel. He said it is going to be 6 or 12, probably. Frankly, I forget how many are on the tranny, I think 6...so he is hoping the answer will be 6. I found pics of various flywheels (Schwungscheibe und Schwungrad) on ebay.de, but none for a 603. It seems that some diesel engines have 12 bolts on the flywheel. A trip to the EPC would answer this question, but I have not subscribed yet. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure, but what do you have going on? Christopher McCann wrote: specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengehäuse Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts?
right, not talking about TC. CM Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont think he is talking about torque converter bolts Tony Wirtel wrote: From: Christopher McCann Subject: [MBZ] OM603 flywheel - how many bolts? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 specifically a 603 in an '87 300TD, although I don't think that matters. Thanks! Chris B?nter u. B?gel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 239K mi, Wulf -1982 VW Vanagon Diesel, 229K mi -1992 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon (Drosselklappengeh?use Einspritzung) -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt, '87 190E 2.3 -'85 300Dt Cali (parting out - need anything?) Chris- Shouldn't be any different from a 602, which has 6 bolts, paired together and visible through the cutout in the bottom of the block case. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1647 - Release Date: 9/2/2008 6:02 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - parts that Rusty doesn't sell --- Rock Auto
OK Don wrote: I'm thinking parts for the Plymouth van. Not enough good stuff in it for Rusty to mess with. I made one Rock purchase. $37 plus $15 shipping for a $80 muffler, described as 'warehouse clearance - 30 day warranty' when normally it's a lifetime warranty part. I think it would have been $20 more with full warranty, which is getting pretty close to normal retail after you include shipping. Came in the normal Walker box, I bet Walker would warrant it if it rusts out. Where those Walker clearance parts get interesting is when they have a $300 catalyst for $130 plus shipping. Bought the hanger for the muffler locally, because it shipped from another warehouse and Rock wanted $8 plus $8 shipping for it when the local Napa had it on the shelf for $12. Everything else I've purchased for the new Achieva was obtained cheaper through Amazon.com or gmpartsdirect.com (the latter is actually a Pontiac dealer in North Carolina, they sold me Delco shocks cheaper than Rock, and a GM fog lamp with bulb for the same delivered price as a TYC without bulb from Rock) Both RockAuto and GMPartsDirect have very low prices and very high shipping. I've been happy with purchases directly from Amazon and from Parts Direct ordered via Amazon. Amazon is giving free one month memberships in Amazon Prime, so you can get free two day shipping if you actually buy it from Amazon. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition
Don, I took Glycosimine for lots of years. Recently stopped and no change. Here is the source I used. http://www.bodysystemtechnology.com/products/jointcare.htm YMMV Take care, Chuck On Sep 3, 2008, at 5:30 PM, OK Don wrote: I've read and heard all of the above, and my Dr. just asks which is working for me. I buy which ever I can find at the lowest cost. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My pharmacist says the condroitin makes a difference but not the MSN. FWIW. (I take 3 a day) Dwight -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive
Spray 3M - it's so much easier than anything else (not that I have ever tried anything else, to be honest).. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Streib wrote: I used Gorilla Glue on mine. Still holding great after 5 years. Wait until the new pad dies and you want to scrape off that polyurethane and glue on another pad. At least you didn't use Liquid Nails, that stuff's invulnerable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition
That's the rub here - you don't know if you're not getting worse because of the stuff, or not. I don't think it would make a difference in the short term. So you're just taking Condroitin, or neither now? On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I took Glycosimine for lots of years. Recently stopped and no change. Here is the source I used. http://www.bodysystemtechnology.com/products/jointcare.htm YMMV Take care, Chuck -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive
There are two 3M adhesives -- 8090 and I think 8070. You want the high strength one, the regular won't hold the pad up when it gets hot. I used one can for two pads, still holding, although the pad on my brother's car is falling apart again. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive
The 3M product can be removed (when the time comes) using a solvent sold by 3M and a lot of paper towels and some patience. If you do need to remove one of these on the car, use a drop cloth over the motor and fenders to keep the gunk off them. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 21:21 To: Mercedes Discussion List; OK Don Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive There must be more than one kind of trim adhesive, theres a thread on Mercedes shop about using 8090. I'll see if I can get a can of that. It'll be interesting, one hood I can do in the garage (the 240D as its not yet installed) the other (the 190D will have to be done on the car... -Curt --- On Wed, 9/3/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood pad adhesive To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 8:34 PM I used 3M super trim (or something) adhesive - worked great on two 124 hoods. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a big box from Rusty today containing the hood pad for the 240D. Its never had one in the 5 years its been around me so I figure with the new hood its time. I've got a pad for my 190D too thats never been installed. What is the preferred hood pad adhesive? -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its a matter of definition
I'm taking neither. I was taking Glucosimine w/condroitin and the system technology brand also has Vitamin C. I've got a back that is severely screwed up. Hurt it in '78. Had a fusion of L3/L4 but I still have movement between the two. Am looking into some minimally intrusive surgical alternatives. For many years I took squite large doses of Ibuprofin (1200/1800 mg/day) and about 3 months ago, I started having nosebleeds with no warning. I've stopped the Ibuprofin and have had no recurrence of the nosebleeds. As to arthritis, I have no joint swelling altho my doctor says I have the affliction/disease... For now I just hunker down and do things that require back movement with in little bits. Bending over when washing dishes really sucks... Just an authentic teutonic approach Put up with it..!!! Take care, Chuck On Sep 3, 2008, at 8:10 PM, OK Don wrote: That's the rub here - you don't know if you're not getting worse because of the stuff, or not. I don't think it would make a difference in the short term. So you're just taking Condroitin, or neither now? On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I took Glycosimine for lots of years. Recently stopped and no change. Here is the source I used. http://www.bodysystemtechnology.com/products/jointcare.htm YMMV Take care, Chuck -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
