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Well, there's an adjustment on the compressor bracket that allows very simple
release of the belt. Same for the power steering bracket, and similiar for the
alternator.
Changing the belts on a 240D is a 20 minute job, armed with the knowledge of
what to turn, and what to not turn. And
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Luther wrote:
I'll trade you straight up for my CD
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Finally got around to messing with the 95 E300 with the messed up
front end. Pulled the old radiator out. Only difference I can see
between it and say, a 87
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I am the Tulsa operations manager for Dealer Specialties
(www.dealerspecialties.com). This company used to be owned by the old
Trader Publishing (which I worked at for years) till the split with Cox
happened. At that point, we all went to Cox (you guys know that story)
and this company went
this one has I think 280k maybe. I suspect its going to need a new oil
pan though, no oil showing on the dipstick and looks like the pan got
scraped pretty good and may be leaking. Cant tell for sure yet.
Robert Massmann wrote:
Kaleb,
I really like mine, even with over 260K miles on it.
it sounds like the temp sensor is not working. With it running, put a
little piece of tissue up on it and see if it holds, if not, the little
aspirator motor is not working to pull air across the sensor.
Luther wrote:
The a/c and heat function fine on my SDL, but they don't function
(blend)
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I had asked about the running temp for my 95 E300D because it was running cool
around 60 deg C. Over the weekend I completed a coolant system flush and then
changed then pulled the thermostat to install the new one. A part of the
support structure had broken, thus causing the valve to be
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He wants $2800
http://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/1145361250.html
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:50:22 -0400 andrew strasfogel
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One other observation: The doors all lock smoothly and quickly 20
minutes after I turn off the car, but once locked, they hold vacuum for
just 5-10 minutes.
So something in the lock circuit is leaking.
When you
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:59:59 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Craig McCluskey wrote:
They are now scanned in Gimp .xcf format, about 22 megabytes
per page. What form do you want them in?
djview is a great format for such stuff. But those aren't for
me, so my opinion doesn't
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:00:18 -0400 Robert Massmann
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In the phto you can see the open section of the valve.
Yup, that would do it! I've never seen such a failure before.
Craig
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I never saw a thermostat break mechanically like that.
It wasn't a Behr, was it?
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:06:52 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
WellI'll be back to this mo-chine around 6:30 this evening.
We'll do what you think is best because I'm a computer mental midget.
How fast is your download speed? Do you have DSL or cable?
Craig
This works wonderfully in theory or on a clean corrosion free engine.
When you have a finely aged wine, er, Mercedes engine, this becomes a
challenge. The 2 times I've RRd 123 belts, I've had to use a pry bar
to move the PS pump, alternator, and a/c compressor because the slides
that are
Another one I have bookmarked is
http://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic20242.html
Further, it looks like the mbz.org transmission articles are back up.
http://www.mbz.org/articles/transmission/
If adjustments don't help, call Rusty for a rebuild. They are guaranteed.
Allan
On Wed, 29
I've pulled 2 Behr thermostats out of my cars that were broken like
that. 1 was broken on BOTH sides.
Luther
Mitch Haley wrote:
I never saw a thermostat break mechanically like that.
It wasn't a Behr, was it?
Mitch.
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'87 300SDL (281,xxx mi)
'85 Ford F250 6.9
Any time I have found something on my 300D that looks like it was not designed
right or hard to remove/adjust I have discovered I'm doing something wrong.
Assumptions and common approaches taken on other vehicles don't always apply to
Mercedes-Benzes.
Allan
Are you sure you have the proper sized belt?
When changing the AC Belt on my 78 240D there is a idler pulley at the front
of the cyl head (near radiator) which is loosened and then the AC belt is
removed. No other bolts are loosened. The same pulley is used to adjust
the tension.
Good luck
As Richard said, you are missing the adjuster for the a/c compressor.
Many of these don't have an adjustment on the compressor at all,
just an idler pulley on a rotatable arm that you twist into place
with a wrench and lock down.
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Any time I have found something on my 300D that looks like it was not
designed right or hard to remove/adjust I have discovered I'm doing
something wrong.
Hence the 'whining' about the SEL water pump. I can't believe
this car has such a Detroit trick in it...
-- Jim
Blue/blue
310,xxx mi
mileage around 27-28mpg
original drive train
shifts like a dream after a minor fix from the local MB indy
car is NOT for sale :)
Luther
andrew strasfogel wrote:
I am a 300TD addict and need a fix. I need to know 1) color combination, 2)
mileage, 3) fuel economy, 4)
if you want it, you have to out bid Roger
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I will give that back to you to help you out.
Luther wrote:
You're just jealous the selling price was $500
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Hey Dwight,
Don't know if it's something happening at all MB dealers but they seem
to becoming *much* more
interested in pleasing customers at a time *other* than when a big check is
being written. I
had our local MB dealer change the rear axle juice (which I provided) for
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Did you change the filter also. We have an 80 SD and once the filter and
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Yes Larry.
That's great.
Of the three dealers I can access easily, one is still criminal-remember
lister John Peterson's transmission saga there a few years ago? The other
one is helpful but not particularly good on old diesels. They even bring me
a loaner car when they take the 240D in-pretty
Yesterday I bought a 1/4 13mm socket, $0.25 at the pawn shop.
Unfortunately, it didn't fit either. (And I lost it down behind the
pulley and can't seem to fish it out, even with the magnet.) I'm now
trying with the 13mm stubby wrench, but I ran out of time to resolve
that issue. I did feel
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andrew strasfogel wrote:
Thanks, Philip - I am betting that if I lift the hinged floor
panel in the hatch area I will be able to access the line into
reservoir. The lines under the hood are very confusing to
sort out.
Probably. My only experience is with cars that have the third
seat. The
That's very surprising... When I pull into the local MB dealer for parts
driving an 80s MBZ, they treat me like I have some sort of disease they
don't want to catch. Even if they have 20 employees on staff, they
immediately peg me as the sort of guy that isn't about to buy a $100k
car so it
tyler wrote:
That's very surprising... When I pull into the local MB dealer for parts
driving an 80s MBZ, they treat me like I have some sort of disease they
don't want to catch. Even if they have 20 employees on staff, they
immediately peg me as the sort of guy that isn't about to buy a $100k
Tyler,
Well maybe if the recession hits them hard enough they finally pay
attention to you. I hope so. But we do have a MB dealership like that too.
They are a mega multi marque dealer. I have noticed that another dealer now
sends me e-mail service specials about every week.
Where are you?
Dwight
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I'm in Riverside, CA. This same dealer who scorns and ignores me when I
go in has been given numerous customer service awards by Mercedes Benz.
My wife won't go in with me anymore when I pick up parts, since she was
so offended by the way they treated us the one time she came.
It must take a
tyler wrote:
I'm in Riverside, CA. This same dealer who scorns and ignores me when I
go in has been given numerous customer service awards by Mercedes Benz.
They must not leave customer satisfaction cards lying around where just anybody
can pick one up and mail it in.
Can you download one
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Is this a W123 240d or a W115 240D? even within the W123 run, things were
changed. My '81 300cD had the jack screws, but the '78 300's all had AC
idler pulleys and that star washer adjuster for the alt. The PS pump was
the same on all of them and had the same jack screw into plastic threads
A lot of companies now are requesting on you giving a 10 rating on customer
satisfaction cards-e.g Hilton. Also one MB dealer here- www.viti.com asks
you to talk to them if you can't give them a perfect rating rather than turn
in a less than stellar number.
Dwight
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Bloomberg reports that according to people with direct knowledge of the
situation, President Obama aims to announce a Chrysler bankruptcy tomorrow and
say a Chrysler-Fiat alliance would be created in bankruptcy. :theflyonthewall.com
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Mitch Haley wrote:
Bloomberg reports that according to people with direct knowledge of
the situation, President Obama aims to announce a Chrysler bankruptcy
tomorrow and say a Chrysler-Fiat alliance would be created in
bankruptcy.
What I heard was that the UAW will have a 55% stake, Fiat 35%, and the
Government 10%. What happens to all the current shareholders I don't know.
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Bloomberg reports that according to people with direct knowledge of the
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OK, so let's get this straight.
Big Brother (the Government) gave Chrysler a deadline of the 30th to
announce a acceptable merger with FIAT.
And according to my direct insider information, Chrysler will make that
deadline.
But you are telling me that the President of Big Brother (the
against AIDS.
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UAW will have 55%, FIAT will start with less than 20% but will eventually
hold 35%, The lien holders have agreed to walk away from 6.9B in debt with
2B in cash in hand, The Government will hold a stake (probably 10%) and the
rest will be Cebrus. Daimler has already surrendered their 19.9% to
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:26 -0500, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote:
UAW will have 55%, FIAT will start with less than 20% but will
eventually hold 35%, The lien holders have agreed to walk away from
6.9B in debt with 2B in cash in hand, The Government will hold a stake
(probably 10%)
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What current shareholders? Chrysler is a private company.
And the split is:
55% UAW
20% FIAT
17% Cebrus
10% Big Brother
100%
Assuming FIAT gets 20% up front. I'm told that they will get less because
Big Brother does not want them to have controlling interest until Big
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Allan Streib wrote:
What I heard was that the UAW will have a 55% stake, Fiat 35%, and the
Government 10%. What happens to all the current shareholders I don't know.
I saw a plan for GM that issued approximately 100x as many shares as currently
outstanding to the UAW, govt, and lenders.
I vote for major oil leak, like a blown oil cooler hose.
If the engine stopped by itself, and the cause was lubrication failure, then
chances are you should be in the market for a used engine.
Mitch.
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I vote for major oil leak, like a blown oil cooler hose.
If the engine stopped by itself, and the cause was lubrication failure,
then chances are you should be in the market for a used engine.
(but maybe you could get away with something cheaper, like replacing some
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Careful! Tom will label you as anti-union and send the thugs out to
help you change your mind!
At 03:14 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote:
I guess the bailout money has gone to the UAW then.
--R
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From the description, the engine is toast. I know where is a near
new OM615 engine that i believe could be had for a reasonable
price. If you are interested, contact me off list and I will give
you the phone number to call.
I just never had any use for it. No running 114/115 cars.
At
Yes?
At 04:21 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote:
OK, so let's get this straight.
Big Brother (the Government) gave Chrysler a deadline of the 30th to
announce a acceptable merger with FIAT.
And according to my direct insider information, Chrysler will make that
deadline.
But you are telling me that
You got it! that is how BO works. BO wants to run everything,
confiscate all he can get away with and tell you he did it for your
good. Ever hear of Lenin?
At 04:32 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:26 -0500, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote:
UAW will have 55%, FIAT
And who is BO - is it Big Oil? They are nowhere in the numbers.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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So. Your solution to this issue about 6 months ago would have been to
let GM and Chrysler go under without any Government bailout funds? I'm
surprised you think BO started this bailout process.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote:
You got it! that is how
John Freer wrote:
So. Your solution to this issue about 6 months ago would have been to
let GM and Chrysler go under without any Government bailout funds? I'm
surprised you think BO started this bailout process.
He voted for bailouts every chance he got, in a term when he had a very poor
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The Prez, BO, the bamster
At 07:37 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote:
And who is BO - is it Big Oil? They are nowhere in the numbers.
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On his, unhooking the vacuum will not only cause it to shift hard, but
will also cause it to not shift till it hits redline.
Loren Faeth wrote:
Uh, Call Rusty. 800 741 5252 Buy a trans from him, if yours is truly
toasted.
Try unhooking the vacuum line to the trans. THat should make it
, and brake-dust-baked alloys)
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BINGO!! But, I have already said too much for this list.
Tom Hargrave wrote:
If it really happens this way then we live in scary times. Back in my
younger days, the only Governments in the world with this much power over
individuals and corporations were the USSR and China and they were the
Oh, that guy, the one who stated today that he wants to build a stronger
auto industry.
What's he going to do next, make stronger toilet paper? Personally fly to
the moon? Solve the immigration problem with a stroke of a pen?
What business does the President and Commander in Chief have meddling
Yes, that is true. But if you get jarring shifts at redline, the
transmission is ok. In that case you know the vacuum and/or control
cable are not working properly. IF the transmission is toasted, you
won't hurt anything either. You can also coax it to shift a bit
earlier by letting off
I think this was an original thermostat as it had a Mercedes emblem
imprinted after the part no.
Bob Massmann
Oregonia Ohio
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sure, that is exactly right. ITs quite possible his vac is just out of
adjustment. If its been out for a while, that would speed up wear quite
a bit though.
Loren Faeth wrote:
Yes, that is true. But if you get jarring shifts at redline, the
transmission is ok. In that case you know the
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and they were the bad guys! yes, and those people still ARE bad
guys! Only now they are closer to home!
At 09:18 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote:
BINGO!! But, I have already said too much for this list.
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If it really happens this way then we live in scary times. Back in my
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Dimitri wrote:
It's an 82 240D. I believe pre 79 models have a York AC compressor. Also,
according to the manual there appear to be other differences with regard to
PS and alternator belt replacement.
I had to remove all three belts at work two weeks ago on 84 240D - a/c
had the idler
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