Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread John Reames
Again by regulation, you should have a recovery machine on hand anytime you touch a system, as the service valves might develop an unstoppable leak. Those regulations require that systems with leaks should be repaired, or in the alternative, that all refrigerant be recovered from the

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread John Reames
Actually it is (or was) legal to convert from 134a to a non-SNAP refrigerant; it is not legal to convert directly from a CFC or HCFC based refrigerant to a non-SNAP refrigerant, nor is it legal to use a sham conversion. I'd suspect that using 134a for a cooling season and being

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread John Reames
Dura-cool or similar. In hotter climates, the pure hydrocarbon based alternatives may not cool as well as 12 or even 134a, since they have a lower temperature than 12) at which the gas and liquid have the same properties... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile:

[MBZ] OM617.95x water pump/fan pulley Q

2010-04-08 Thread John Reames
Does anyone know (offhand) if the water pump pulley is the same across all years of the turbo 617's, or is it different for the years with the longer belts? What years would interchange with an 85? Mine is inexplicably bent; the plane of the bees is no longer parallel with the plane of

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley
John Reames wrote: Although, with older systems you can have diffusion-based leakage through the hoses unless the hoses Are, or were replaced with barrier-type hoses prior to conversion. It has been said that if you run r12 and mineral oil through a hose under pressure for 20 years, it

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I need to know more about this solvent flush (what, where, how much$) and any other purging or cleaning; several summers ago I fixed the leaks on my '87, pulled a hard vacuum and let that sit overnight then recharged the system (was converted to 134 so I stuck with that), but it has never cooled

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
That's what Marshall used to say. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over John Reames

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I'm also thinking about swapping the expansion valve (and the receiver/drier) while I've it open. If you open the system, you replace the receiver/drier. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Yep. Theoretically, the rcvr/drier should take care of residual moisture, right? In the MB design, does it also act as the screen? The other idea that my neighbor has is that my screen might be clogged (based on the pressures seen on the high side vs. the low side) but I don't see any screen in

Re: [MBZ] OM617.95x water pump/fan pulley Q

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
On-line EPC is great for these kinds of questions, coupled with the MB price list from Dave M. and you can get a very good estimate of the cost. http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp Starting with a 123.133 in the EPC... I find a part number of 617 205 05 10. That part is also used on... All

Re: [MBZ] Another Oil Thread

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Larry, thanks for following up. Got the M1 at the Advance closest to my work location. Rather irritating, the Advance closest to my house and very convenient to stop at while driving home did not have it in stock. I'm beginning to think there's either a conspiracy OR a very high concentration of

[MBZ] Here's a tank of R12

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1681332229.html --R On 4/8/2010 8:44 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Yep. Theoretically, the rcvr/drier should take care of residual moisture, right? In the MB design, does it also act as the screen? The other idea that my

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I think the drier is there to collect liquid bits from the refrigerant stream, not water moisture. --R On 4/8/2010 8:44 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Yep. Theoretically, the rcvr/drier should take care of residual moisture, right? In the MB design, does it

Re: [MBZ] Another Oil Thread

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
Or both. --R (Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it can creep...) On 4/8/2010 8:58 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I'm beginning to think there's either a conspiracy OR a very high concentration of diesel drivers in Mt. P -Max

Re: [MBZ] Here's a tank of R12

2010-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1681332229.html It probably is a partial tank from a shop that no longer services R12. OTOH, it could be a tank that somebody reclaimed used whatever into, or an empty tank that somebody filled with who knows what to sell as a mostly

[MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
So a minute ago the dog started barking at something and then about a second later WHAMBOOM!!! I think we just got a little earth jolt here, and the dog picked it up before it hit. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread LarryT
Thx Wilton - $30 isn't bad at all! Will look for some - LarryT 91 300D 2,5T OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:05 PM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: Thx Wilton - $30 isn't bad at all! Will look for some - Where are you located? http://richmond.craigslist.org/search/?areaID=60subAreaID=query=r-12catAbbreviation=sss ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread LarryT
hydrocarbon test refrigerant Thx Jim - does this stuff have a commercial name? LarryT 91 300D 2.5T OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Sent: Wednesday, April

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Dieselhead
I have heard that from other sources as well. That's what Marshall used to say. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread LarryT
Thx Tim - I'm thinking I'll try to find a 12 oz can and add that - I shouldn't have any futures troubles doing that would I? How do I determine if there's a evap leak? LarryT '91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: hydrocarbon test refrigerant Thx Jim - does this stuff have a commercial name? Envirosafe is a name that it's sold by for automotive use. I think Jim uses the isobutane/propane camp stove fuel, and then tops it off with Coleman propane. Details here:

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread WILTON
A gas detector detects Freon coming out of the inside cooling registers/vents. Wilton - Original Message - From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Give that dog a bone! A few years ago we had an earthquake here one evening, and I was convinced that the neighbor's boy had driven his car into our house or something - one big BAM which shook the house and it was over. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Yes - you must assume that you lost some oil as well, and failing to replace that can run the compressor dry if you lose too much. The trick is to decide how much oil and what type of oil to add back in... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I looked here http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/ but see no reports, so I'm wondering if a Marine jet jockey got a little too exuberant with his throttles this morning. It was a good jolt though, might have been the Seneca guns?

Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
When the one I felt occurred, our neighborhood must have been the epicenter - I don't think it merited more than a one-line comment during the local news. No damage to our house or any of the neighbors. Floods, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, AND Palmetto Bugs! The charms of living in the

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey
Yes - you must assume that you lost some oil as well, and failing to replace that can run the compressor dry if you lose too much. The trick is to decide how much oil and what type of oil to add back in... Too little oil and the compressor seizes. Too much and it coats the pipes and impairs

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey
hydrocarbon test refrigerant Thx Jim - does this stuff have a commercial name? There are some, not sure which ones. I use my own. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey
I think the drier is there to collect liquid bits from the refrigerant stream, not water moisture. Then why, pray tell, does it have the name drier? It's a receiver/drier, and also a filter. The receiver function is where it collects liquid refrigerant for disbursal to the rest of the system.

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey
other idea that my neighbor has is that my screen might be clogged (based on the pressures seen on the high side vs. the low side) but I don't see any screen in the FSM. The expansion valve usually has a small screen in its input fitting. I've cleaned these before, but I don't know about the

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey
Actually it is (or was) legal to convert from 134a to a non-SNAP refrigerant; it is not legal to convert directly from a CFC or HCFC based refrigerant to a non-SNAP refrigerant, nor is it legal to use a sham conversion. That is a bit of skulduggery aimed at getting your system converted to

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Too little oil and the compressor seizes.  Too much and it coats the pipes and impairs the efficiency of the system. Any of the wrong type (immiscible) and it impairs the system, and enough of it can slug the compressor

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Ah, well, I'll have to take a look if/when I do open her up again... Thanks, Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I suspect this old snap ac AC machine I got is leaking a little, I dont think its pulling down a good enough vacuum. Peter Frederick wrote: Check all your hose fittings for leaks, too. You would be amazed at how much air you can get leaking through a bad seal on a quick disconnect. I am

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: What, then, is the right oil to add to a system that has had only the original R12 in it and is now being converted to use a hydrocarbon such as Envirosafe or Cathey's Magic Brew? Good old mineral refrigerant oil. I think it was about $10 a quart at NAPA when I bought

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I think you want to keep the original type of oil, which I believe is mineral oil but double check that. A good auto parts place will have at least two types of AC oil on the shelf, and should be able to explain which one is compatible with R-12; that is the one you probably want, but I would

Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
And don't forget 2 of pine pollen on the cars every morning. -R On 4/8/2010 10:44 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: When the one I felt occurred, our neighborhood must have been the epicenter - I don't think it merited more than a one-line comment during the local

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't know the answer to your question, whether it is for drying water or the vapor stream (i.e., drying out the droplets of liquid refrigerant) or both. I seem to recall reading something about that in last year's (and the years' before...) discussions of AC, and got the impression it was

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
so you can get the 70/30 mix at sporting goods stores? How do you get it out of the can and into your system? Will it screw onto R12 guages? Jim Cathey wrote: So tell me more about this test refrigerant. I know you have before. What is in it? Where do you get it? How do you mix it? How

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Or I guess you could use one of those side clamp deals that pokes a hole in the side of the can for charging. Jim Cathey wrote: So tell me more about this test refrigerant. I know you have before. What is in it? Where do you get it? How do you mix it? How do you charge it? Put this in

Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread John Robbins
On 4/8/2010 10:08 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: And don't forget 2 of pine pollen on the cars every morning. Ugh Don't remind me! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Frederick W Moir
OK Don. If curt doesn't want it, I'll let yo know. I've attached some pics of my repair, non structural just to keep the oil in. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. On 4/7/2010 8:42 PM, OK Don wrote: If Curt doesn't want it, my son does - the original '84 cover/ tensioner without the bearing

Re: [MBZ] 240D Transmission issue

2010-04-08 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So I should turn the idle adjust *after* depressing the throttle? Yes, otherwise you're trying, with fingers and plastic, to pull on a throttle mechanism that is sprung for foot pressure. It's hard to do, hard on the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Transmission issue

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Sounds like you've got another problem. The knob you turned only increases the idle speed by pulling on the same linkage that the accelerator throttle moves, it does nothing to affect starting or air/fuel ratios, I believe. You may have an air leak allowing the injection pump to lose its prime,

Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread pm7088
Where is 'Here'. Tsunami danger in New England? Should I leave work early? -- Peter T. Arnold P.M. x3 All Mail to: Secretary Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 A.F. A.M. 34 Country Club Drive Windsor, CT 06095 - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] Ebay car for wifey. 87 300d

2010-04-08 Thread Rolf
I got your number and will call when I am done with DMV, with any luck should be right around lunchtime. -Rolf Tim C. wrote: Aw come on where is your sense of adventure! Anyways I don't want to get hassled by airport security. I will buy a pair of pliers, screwdriver and razor blade . Maybe

Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Hmmm...we get the pollen (and earthquakes too) in the Pacific Northwest also! Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 8:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

[MBZ] OT: ACORN the real story.

2010-04-08 Thread Rolf
Fox should fire Hannity and Beck. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36204129#36204129 Just wow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread archer
If I convert from 134a to Freeze12, how many parts of the system will I have to flush with flushing fluid? I would use R-12 oil, I suppose. I have a new compressor to install. How much oil should I add to it? The MB disc says 180 c.c. (about 6 ounces), and how much to the other components?

Re: [MBZ] OT: ACORN the real story.

2010-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Rolf wrote: Fox should fire Hannity and Beck. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36204129#36204129 Just wow. I've been wondering how Rachel Man-Cow got on the air myself. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
Near Charleston SC, have not thought about tsunami but that could be a possibility. In 1887 (or around there) we had an earthquake here that is estimated to have been over 7, maybe 7.4, so yeah, that could cause a problem with the water. Don't know if back then it happened or not. The

Re: [MBZ] OT: ACORN the real story.

2010-04-08 Thread Dieselhead
I thought politics were banned to Banned. Fox should fire Hannity and Beck. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36204129#36204129 Just wow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT: ACORN the real story.

2010-04-08 Thread Greg Fiorentino
So instead of one allegedly cherry-picked version we get another cherry-picked version. Since the unedited versions are out there, why has Maddow not provided links to those so we could see for ourselves? Note that even she admits that this only clears the California office...or does it? How do

Re: [MBZ] OT: ACORN the real story.

2010-04-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
as have I. Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: Fox should fire Hannity and Beck. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36204129#36204129 Just wow. I've been wondering how Rachel Man-Cow got on the air myself. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] OT: ACORN the real story.

2010-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley
It's been pointed out that this thread went to the wrong list, but I've just got to add this: Sean Hannity and his little brother Rachel: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2010/04/sean-maddowrachel-hannity.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Curt Raymond
So '84 didn't have a bearing? Maybe that explains why mine broke... -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:42:23 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives! Message-ID:    

Re: [MBZ] OM617.95x water pump/fan pulley Q

2010-04-08 Thread John Reames
The part number is correct. It is currently more than 100 from mbusa. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 8, 2010, at 8:56, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: On-line EPC is great for these kinds

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
What are you using to flush? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over If I convert from

Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!!

2010-04-08 Thread WILTON
Pollen very heavy here, too; eastern NC. Wilton - Original Message - From: John Robbins je...@msstate.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT YOW!!! On 4/8/2010 10:08 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: And don't

Re: [MBZ] OT: ACORN the real story.

2010-04-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, so it is, I did not notice it was on the wrong list. Mitch Haley wrote: It's been pointed out that this thread went to the wrong list, but I've just got to add this: Sean Hannity and his little brother Rachel:

Re: [MBZ] 240D Transmission issue

2010-04-08 Thread WILTON
The idle knob is ONLY that - pulls/releases the same linkage that the accelerator operates - does nothing whatsoever to change air/fuel ratio any different than whatever the foot accelerator does - controls amt. of fuel to the engine. The idle knob merely holds some accelerator on/down; same

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread John Reames
Yeah. Pag oils are only used in automotive refrigeration; anything else seems to use POE oils... If you retrofit, use POE oil and you can run pretty much any refrigerant in it that you want. Poe oil is much less hygroscopic than pag, and it has the advantage of not breaking down into

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Frederick W Moir
Curt, OK Don, et al. I also have the bearing assy. that came with this early '84 front cover. A bit notchy but whole. Also have the matching early 601 head, new valves/guides/seals etc. Will not fit later '84 or '85 601. Looks the same, but, different head, different gasket. (Ask me how I

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Frederick W Moir
Brian, et al Anyone have a 602.961 IP for sale? I'm trying to get my 190DT to run smoothly and I'm coming to the conclusion that it's the IP. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. On 4/7/2010 1:01 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Geez wish I remembered to bring some used parts up with me! Brian

[MBZ] crazy isp

2010-04-08 Thread R A Bennell
I have no idea why my isp has blocked Kaleb but the only way I have figured out to get back on to the forums is to use a gmail address instead so here I am as wpg3...@gmail.com. Randy in Winnipeg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Fred, My NA 190D, 2.2 liter, had a rough idle which I also suspected IP after rebuilding the delivery valves and having the injectors tested/balanced. I finally took it to local indie, he looked at it for about 5 seconds and advised me to change the motor mounts, which cured the problem. I

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread archer
E.F.Products Auto Air Conditioner Clean and Flush...for R-12 to 134a Retrofits. From Autozone. Gerry From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 What are you using to flush? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]

[MBZ] PCA day at the NY Auto Show

2010-04-08 Thread RELNGSON
I can't imagine MBUSA doing something like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fm3uVGHWnY RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread John Reames
Isn't rusty running a sale on them? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 8, 2010, at 15:58, Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Brian, et al Anyone have a 602.961 IP for sale? I'm trying to get my 190DT to run smoothly and I'm

Re: [MBZ] crazy isp

2010-04-08 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: I have no idea why my isp has blocked Kaleb but the only way I have figured out to get back on to the forums is to use a gmail address instead so here I am as wpg3...@gmail.com. Cisco put out a server rating of 'poor' on the server that sends out the list traffic. Hey,

Re: [MBZ] PCA day at the NY Auto Show

2010-04-08 Thread WILTON
Photographers trying to give me vertigo again. So I guess I don't care to watch it, though I wanted to. Wilton - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: [MBZ] PCA day at the NY Auto Show I can't imagine

Re: [MBZ] PCA day at the NY Auto Show

2010-04-08 Thread E M
I didn't even bother attending this years Toronto Auto Show. A couple of friends said Porsche was represented by one of our dealers, no factory represention. Didn't want to spring for the cost of displaying cars I guess, unless they did some deal with the dealer which no one could figure out.

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Frederick W Moir
Max, et al. When I picked up this car on a very frosty morning it would only run on 4 cyls. I had a hell of a time starting it with only 2 extant glow plugs. After I got it home the reason for 4 out of 5 was that the delivery valve for #1 was finger tight. (finger loose?). after replacing the

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Frederick W Moir
John. Yup! But he wants to be paid. Y'see the problem. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. On 4/8/2010 4:32 PM, John Reames wrote: Isn't rusty running a sale on them? -- John W Reames ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread John Reames
Yah, I suppose not paying is an issue... But you DID ask if anyone had one for sale... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 8, 2010, at 17:01, Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: John. Yup! But he wants to be paid. Y'see the

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Frederick W Moir
John. So I did. CRS is interfering with my ability to remember and to be able to talk coherently. USED IP needed for OM602.961, must be cheap like me! Better? Fred Moir Lynn MA On 4/8/2010 5:39 PM, John Reames wrote: Yah, I suppose not paying is an issue... But you DID ask if anyone had one

Re: [MBZ] 300TD engine/ motor swap question

2010-04-08 Thread andrew strasfogel
Year? Color inside and out? Mileage? On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: 84 and up have the tach sensor on the intermediary plate. You will need to swap the plate from the 85 to the new engine as well if its 83 and less. I just so happen to be selling my wagon,

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread John Reames
Ah... CRS can be good... You just need to tune it a bit so the S thy you CR is the BS that drives you BSC. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 8, 2010, at 18:02, Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: John. So I did. CRS is

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Frederick W Moir
John, et al. If only it were under my control. I could truly say:- yes dear, I'm sorry I forgot! Thanks for the chuckle. Fred Moir Lynn MA On 4/8/2010 6:59 PM, John Reames wrote: Ah... CRS can be good... You just need to tune it a bit so the S thy you CR is the BS that drives you BSC. John W

Re: [MBZ] 124 ball joints.

2010-04-08 Thread Dieselhead
Partial success so far. I have one out. I sprayed it with penetrating oil and beat on it with a 2 lb blacksmith cross-pein hammer. After a lot of beating, the cap popped off and the ball went out the bottom. I thought i was going to have trouble at that point. But a few more whacks and it

Re: [MBZ] 124 ball joints.

2010-04-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So are you supposed to beat the joint out and press them back in? I thought you used the press to press them out? Dieselhead wrote: Partial success so far. I have one out. I sprayed it with penetrating oil and beat on it with a 2 lb blacksmith cross-pein hammer. After a lot of beating,

Re: [MBZ] 124 ball joints.

2010-04-08 Thread Peter Frederick
It works much better to press them out, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey
If I convert from 134a to Freeze12, how many parts of the system will I have to flush with flushing fluid? All of it? Or none of it, if that's the one that has R134a in it. I would use R-12 oil, I suppose. That's my preference. I have a new compressor to install. How much oil should I

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey
Or I guess you could use one of those side clamp deals that pokes a hole in the side of the can for charging. That's what I started with. I later made a better one out of a camp stove, hose, and a fitting from some MB. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey
I don't know the answer to your question, whether it is for drying water or 'twas a rhetorical question. I know the answer, it's water that the drier is drying. I did a _lot_ of reading before I tackled the first system, on the Ebola Fishtank.

Re: [MBZ] Another Oil Thread

2010-04-08 Thread OK Don
Or inept stocking/management ot one store -- (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you. . .) On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Or both. --R (Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it can creep...) On

Re: [MBZ] 124 ball joints.

2010-04-08 Thread Dieselhead
I tried to press it out, and got nowhere. Cathey and someone else said the beat them out with a hammer. I will try the press again on the other one. Got the new one in on the right. Then I put the new bushing in the steering idler arm. Going out to tear down the left side next. It works

Re: [MBZ] 124 ball joints.

2010-04-08 Thread Peter Frederick
You will be amazed at the difference when you get the alignment done -- it's like a whole new car. My new 300D was terribly noisy on the highway, sounded like a bad muffler. All new bits up front and a new steering box and I have a new car -- very quite (except all the noise from the rear

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
then the government got involved and screwed it all up. Jim Cathey wrote: If I convert from 134a to Freeze12, how many parts of the system will I have to flush with flushing fluid? All of it? Or none of it, if that's the one that has R134a in it. I would use R-12 oil, I suppose. That's

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im going to head out tomorrow and see if I can find any of this 70/30 fuel anywhere and give it a try in my unconverted 90 300D. If not, I will see if I can find any freeze 12 locally. Jim Cathey wrote: Or I guess you could use one of those side clamp deals that pokes a hole in the side of

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread OK Don
It has a bushing, and a proportionaly smaller (in width) rocker arm. Now that I think about it, perhaps the bushing is MORE reliable than the ball bearing? Then why did MB change it? When we got this car, the rocker was tilted, so I just assumed (there it is again) that it needed a new bearing.

[MBZ] what an Iowa winter can do to a '77 240D

2010-04-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
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Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Not that I don't have a care for the environment, but a volcano errupting does more harm to the ozone layer and CO2/particulate levels than a few years of human activity... are we going to regulate volcano's next? Just food for thought, don't have the numbers in front of me though. Walt On Apr

Re: [MBZ] RI Red lives!

2010-04-08 Thread Peter Frederick
At a guess, I would suspect that the bushing would cause the bolt to unscrew much more readily than the bearing system, and that the loose bolt will eat the front cover pretty fast. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Peter Frederick
I would beg to differ here. Chlorine in the upper atmosphere acts as a catalyst to covert ozone to diatomic oxygen, this is a know fact, not a supposition. The main mechanism for transporting free chlorine into the upper atmosphere (where it is not found in nature) is chlorinated

Re: [MBZ] Auto show

2010-04-08 Thread RELNGSON
.PCA gatherings seem to have dwindled big time too, from what a few couple of members have told me Not in my Region (www.pnwr.org) and there will likely be about 900+ registrants at this year's Porsche Parade at the Pheasant Run Resort in St. Charles Illinois. RLE

Re: [MBZ] 124 ball joints.

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
When I redid the 79 TD's front suspension (ball joint failed, wheel broke) I took the knuckle to a Benz shop to put in the new one I brought, and an old mech put it in a vise, picked up a BFH, put a ball peen hammer on the bj, and proceeded to beat on BPH until the old broken bj popped out.

Re: [MBZ] what an Iowa winter can do to a '77 240D

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
How's Joe Biden working out for you? Is he your kind of intellectual? --R On 4/8/2010 8:36 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: Rear bumper, fortunately, dropped off as I backed into the garage. Exhaust dropped 10 miles south of the house, on the way to a meeting. Was able to drive it home w/out

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Charge / Freon Change over

2010-04-08 Thread Rich Thomas
OK, so if you are pumping a vacuum for hours, all the water should be gone before you recharge the system. And the system should then be under pressure, so no water should get in. So why the drier for water? --R (not arguing, learning) On 4/8/2010 9:22 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I don't know the

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