Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Paint Code and Paint

2010-05-18 Thread LarryT
Boy, reading the decoding of the paint code is a stretch. They don't make it easy do they? To bad it's not a grey car ;-) Thx - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Jim Cathey

Re: [MBZ] Paint Code and Paint

2010-05-18 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Well, one of the original data cards MIGHT be around in your original maintenance manual, glued into the back, or with the car's other papers. Another place the code is located is in the numbers in the metal tag on the radiator support. On my '95 E300 I just took a peak, and the code is in the

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
The problem I have with that argument is that in many places in the U.S.A., speed limits are set too low, and the natural safe driving speed is typically 10 to 15 mph higher. Driving the posted speed limit EXACTLY will often make you the slowest car on the road and a hazard to navigation. Then

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I like the idea of the spare washer pump and rear directed spray jet. Would be a very easy mod on a wagon. Also need a port and starboard directed option for cell phone talkers/texters. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Paint Code and Paint

2010-05-18 Thread LarryT
Hi Jim - After reviewing your memoirs I think I may have found the paint code - I have a 122 on the radiator support plate and the dataplate info (found at http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/view.html according to my notes - I must have found that link on the MB list I think) which has 122 also -

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread LarryT
I know we're supposed to read all contracts - but after getting up a 430am to catch a flight, going thru all the security stuff, sitting between 2 of the largest people ever to board a plane, being served something closer to roadkill than real food (after foregoing breakfast for 5 more minutes

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm with you as far as it goes but heres the thing, for NOW its just watching for excessive speed but not far down the road it'll be Well sir your contract CLEARLY states you will NEVER speed and whammo. From there its a slippery slope to putting GPS units in every car and pulling people over

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread Curt Raymond
I think some fool swerving all over the road is a dire emergency, if they aren't caught they could kill somebody... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:20:39 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Sheesh I got so caught up in personal liberty I forgot to bring up road rage... Yeah I stick pretty much to the right lane but there are times when accelerating your way out of trouble is a pretty good option. Not always, usually slowing down and driving to the police station is a better option

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I like the idea of the spare washer pump and rear directed spray jet. Would be a very easy mod on a wagon. Also need a port and starboard directed option for cell phone talkers/texters. I remember one of those 'modest proposal' opinion

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Ohh I was thinking something really horrid, like skunk extract... 2 release tubes, one up high so they know they done wrong, one down low to punish long term... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:11:34 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Butyric acid is better. --R On 5/18/2010 9:33 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Ohh I was thinking something really horrid, like skunk extract... 2 release tubes, one up high so they know they done wrong, one down low to punish long term... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:11:34 -0700 From: Jim

[MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread Rusty Cullens
I'm back!!! 1/2 days for this week, not sure yet about next week yet. I highly recommend the new ICU diet. I lost 35 pounds in 5 weeks and plan on going for 25 more. So let's get those orders cranking, I have bills to pay! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
D51/2NS yummy. --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Rusty To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 10:12 AM I'm back!!! 1/2 days for this week, not sure yet about

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread Hans Neureiter
Don't do the next 25 in ICU. Glad to see you recovering. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm back!!! 1/2 days for this week, not sure yet about next week yet. I highly recommend the new ICU diet. I lost 35 pounds in 5 weeks and plan on

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread Mike Esh
Welcome back Rusty! Good luck in your recovery, go easy at first. I went from 270 down to 235 as well. Mine was the result of colon removal and a 6 day visit at the University of MI hospital. Mike On May 18, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I'm back!!! 1/2 days for

[MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Donald Snook
The CEL on my 1995 E320 was on yesterday. I had to go to several places yesterday for work and drove almost 400 miles. About ¾ of the way through my day, I noticed that the check engine light came on. So, the next time we stopped, I went ahead and disconnected the battery to clear the code

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Paint Code and Paint

2010-05-18 Thread Rusty Cullens
What is the complete VIN? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread drcscruggs
glad to hear you are better, I agree get those extra lbs off. -Original Message- From: Mike Esh michael...@me.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 10:08 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty Welcome back Rusty! Good luck in your recovery, go easy at

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread Rusty Cullens
That sounds like a lot of fun, glad your ok. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Mike Esh michael...@me.com To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread R A Bennell
My point is that most places do not expect or want you to read the fine print before you sign. They shove it at you and say sign here. If they do, then they ought not to try to take advantage later. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread R A Bennell
I think I might rather not deliberately antagonize someone who appears not to be playing with a full deck. I think the better advice was get out of his way in some manner and live another day. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread R A Bennell
I think it is just spelled phonetically. What it is trying to tell you is SELL. You would, of course be doing that soon in any event. It is just a friendly reminder courtesy of the MB folks. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Glad to see you back boss! I put in an order for steering bits yesterday. Of course I forgot to include a lower radiator hose but I'm sure once I put those bits in I'll find more I'm needing... -Curt Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:12:18 -0400 From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Dieselhead
What codes were on it? You read the light flashes, then clear the codes under the hood. I don't remember the codes, but you can find them on the internet. Seems to me that 4, 5 and 9 are common and often appear and disappear without reason. It has to do with the air pump (4 or 5) and

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What codes were on it? You read the light flashes, then clear the codes under the hood. I don't remember the codes, but you can find them on the internet. I bought a code reader for Benzes that have the round many-pin

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread WILTON
Radio unlock code much like getting a key - usually via VIN, registration, etc., at stealership, but I think somebody on list (Jim C. or OK Don?) has a way via some web site. Wilton 87 300D (no radio code needed) 91 350SDL (radio code written on first page of owner's manual by me when I

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread John Reames
With a 210, and possibly any monowiper, you do not need the side jets... And the extra one... The headlamp washers work great. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 18, 2010, at 7:58, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Dieselhead
You don't need any code reader for the later 124 MBs like Snook's. You push a button and it flashes a light. You count the flashes to get the codes. (4 flashes = code 4) On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What codes were on it? You read the light

Re: [MBZ] OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more

2010-05-18 Thread John Reames
I vote for butanethiol... Dilute, of course. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 18, 2010, at 9:39, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Butyric acid is better. --R On 5/18/2010 9:33 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Ohh I was

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread John Reames
I did my part... I think I did the better part of a k while you were in absentia. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 18, 2010, at 10:12, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm back!!! 1/2 days for this week, not sure yet

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Is that a gasser-only feature, the push-button-for-code? Where's the button? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread buymbparts
U da man! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:16:58 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty I did my part... I think I did the better part of a k while you

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Dieselhead
I've not been under the hood of a Diesel newer than 87. On the 94 E320, it is passenger side, near the shock/strut mount. Makes sense that it is gasser only. Most of the crap it checks is not on a Diesel. Is that a gasser-only feature, the push-button-for-code? Where's the button?

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread Donald Snook
Rusty wrote: I'm back!!! 1/2 days for this week, not sure yet about next week yet. I highly recommend the new ICU diet. I lost 35 pounds in 5 weeks and plan on going for 25 more. So let's get those orders cranking, I have bills to pay! That's great, Rusty. Glad you are back!

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: I think it is just spelled phonetically. What it is trying to tell you is SELL. You would, of course be doing that soon in any event. It is just a friendly reminder courtesy of the MB folks. This car is too nice and with such low miles, I couldn't sell it to this group for what

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Donald Snook
Dieselhead wrote: You don't need any code reader for the later 124 MBs like Snook's. You push a button and it flashes a light. You count the flashes to get the codes. (4 flashes = code 4) I didn't know about this. What button? How do I check the codes. Donald H. Snook

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread buymbparts
Thanks! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:15:43 To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty Rusty wrote: I'm back!!! 1/2 days for this week, not sure

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread John Reames
Mr serpentine belt gave mr radiator a very intimate introduction to mr alternator pulley... Plus I had to do flex discs (both) on the other 99... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 18, 2010, at 13:36, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: U da man!

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread buymbparts
That doesn't sound too good. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:39:23 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty Mr serpentine belt gave mr radiator a very

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread R A Bennell
Have we not heard that song before?? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:17 PM To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light Randy wrote: I think

Re: [MBZ] Rusty

2010-05-18 Thread John Reames
Laura was about 200-250yds from the parking spot in front of the house so she coasted in. When the car lost power steering assist and simultaneously turned the odometer red ans displayed battery charge in it's place, she started keeping a really close eye on the temp gauge... Anyhow it

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Easiest way to fix it is to find the light and pull it. ;) I personally like the older mitsu mightymax's, the CEL was tied to the odometer, and had a switch behind an escussion plate to flip it off for another X thousand miles Walt On May 18, 2010 4:58 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread John Reames
What do your fuses look like? How about your grounds and biodegrading wiring harness? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 18, 2010, at 17:06, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Easiest way to fix it is to find the light and pull it. ;)

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Peter Frederick
åctually, the normal reason you get a check engine light is that the computer cannot control the mixture. Time to check for vacuum leaks, manifold cracks (if you have a plastic manifold), and leaks between the air flow sensor and the throttle body. My brother in law replaced all four O2

[MBZ] Mercedes Option Codes

2010-05-18 Thread LarryT
Hi ! Thx to several of you I am pretty sure I have paint code #122M which is Mother of Pearl Grey Metallic. I believe the paint for the plastic panels is 7122 but am not sure. There is also a Code 78 list under Paint Options but the description says No Code Designation Available Are there

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Jim Cathey
I personally like the older mitsu mightymax's, the CEL was tied to the odometer, and had a switch behind an escussion plate to flip it off for another X thousand miles The early system as used in my '82 380 SL is really stupid. An odometer roller flips a hall-effect switch that causes it to

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Option Codes

2010-05-18 Thread OK Don
You call Rusty in the morning, and welcome back, then ask about the codes On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:48 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Are there any other sources for MB Option codes? I tried Peachparts without luck - Thx Larry 91 300D -- OK Don Panic! (the national past

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Dieselhead
Donald, This is a listing of the codes for an S500, but they appear to be the same as I remember for E320. I don't have an E320 anymore, so I can't take pictures of the unit. There is an LED and a pushbutton to read the flashes. I think it is supposed to have a cover, but mine didn't have

Re: [MBZ] Check Engine Light

2010-05-18 Thread Dieselhead
Snook's E320 has a button and an LED under the hood. You push the button and the led flashes to give you the code. Then I think you hold the button down for a long time to clear the code. It is on the passenger side, near the right side strut mounting, just in front of the firewall. The

[MBZ] speeding (was: Re: OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more)

2010-05-18 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Max! without getting into what defines nature safe... speed, it sound like the root problem in your example is with the speed limit(s) not being fast enough (for your liking). if you don't like the limits, that's a completely different issue, and you should lobby for changes of

[MBZ] blindly signing your life away (was: Re: OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more)

2010-05-18 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Larry! your example, extreme as you tried to make it sound, wasn't quite as bad as my most recent trip to Flori-duh... and yes, i read the contract.;-)(really; i'm certainly nobody special, but i find it's just not that hard to quickly review a basic rental car contract.)

[MBZ] sliding off the end of the slippery slope (was: Re: OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more)

2010-05-18 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Curt! sorry, but i'm not inclined to get sucked into a 'slippery slope' discussion; that argument can be formed to lead anywhere. technically, we already agree to abide by the laws just for the privilege of driving, and are already subject to enforcement of that; it sounds like

[MBZ] trust me; just sign this,... ; -) (was: Re: OT? Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more)

2010-05-18 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Randy! of course they hope you'll do so; it's to their advantage. if you really expect anyone offering you a contract that *they'd* written to do otherwise, you're either too trusting, or naive. just curious; who do you think should be watching out for you, if not you? in so many