[MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Ralph Robertson
What's with the issue of using green antifreeze in diesels and aluminum heads? I had my antifreeze changed and I said to the mechanic that I heard that I should not be using the green stuff re the aluminum head. He picks up the A/F container and read that it was safe for these heads. What is the

Re: [MBZ] OM617 300SD, nearly read for first start-up

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Allan Streib wrote: The new alternator is in a box labeled World Wide Automotive and Remy International. It is labeled with the number 13056. It has a single pully on it, not a dual pully. For all I know it could be for another car entirely and the PO

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread John Reames
Green has a pH of 11 or so. Hot aluminum and bases mix too well, resulting in erosion and pin-holing. The proper stuff will have a pH of 7 and is buffered to stay that way. I view commodity antifreeze as being a lot like oil filters; some time ago, someone did a tear-down of a bunch of

Re: [MBZ] shiny money

2011-08-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
Similar to your car cleaning budget, Mr Shiney! Hendrik who needs a security blanket to put with the BS world relng...@aol.com wrote: Hendrik who hasn't got the money for more toys.. Uh huh...what's your monthly ciggy budget, Smokey? RLE ___

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
No this is an older model from the 80's, may still blow shocks though. Hendrik who has never blown a shock but has not tried hard enough Allan Streib wrote: Is this the model that was blowing shock absorbers in the outback? Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well a good auto is a good thing, reminds me of a story I heard many years ago, a road train was stuck on a wheat farm in WA and they got a D9 in to pull it out, after breaking the first chain they got a bigger chain, D9 bogged down. Got in a Allis Chalmers N9 harvester with hydrostatic

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
Ya know ya can change an auto down to provide engine braking. Hendrik who can provide authentic Merc literature to support that claim Curt Raymond wrote: Oh man, you've cracked a can of worms about like an oil thread! For descending a steep grade a manual has HUGE advantages. However if

Re: [MBZ] Onstar on MB

2011-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
As a youth, I went to their summer program for Mountaineering Orienteering, which was more our less a right of passage for the Dillon household. Loved it. Do they still offer a summer program for kids? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. OK Don

Re: [MBZ] Non starting diesel

2011-08-19 Thread Dieselhead
Seldom happens, but it is also possible that the rack is stuck shut. However, on the 603, if the stop lever is up, i believe the rack can't be in the off position. If you take the side cover off the pump, you should see the rack slam into the full on position by the governor as soon as you

Re: [MBZ] OT computer still shuts down

2011-08-19 Thread Dieselhead
Apple or OWC (Macsales.com) (but you have already been told this twice already.) What's a good brand and price for a MacBook Pro battery replacment? On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I learned my lesson on aftermarket batteries with my 17 Dell.

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Michael Canfield
Is there a brand that works well mixed with the MB orange stuff? I have to drive 90 miles to get to a Benz dealer. Mike On Aug 19, 2011 8:50 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: It's not buffered as well as the approved stuff, becomes acidic and will erode the head. I think it is

Re: [MBZ] the 300SD laundry list begins

2011-08-19 Thread Hans Neureiter
Brake and shut-off problems seem to be related: Vacuum leak or bad pump. Check for vacuum at the pump by disconnecting the line. On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Braking is nearly nonexistent. Pedal feels firm, but can barely stop the car from

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Is there a brand that works well mixed with the MB orange stuff? I have to drive 90 miles to get to a Benz dealer. Wasser. Or use Zerex G05, which is the same thing. I get mine at NAPA. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
It will probably do no short term harm but the problem with coolant is most folks don't change it often enough. The MB/Zerex G-05 has a longer life so you can go two, maybe three years between changes. If you have ordinary green coolant then you have to change it yearly as the buffers and

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
Yep, I've only purchased the MB antifreeze once. NAPA carries it, made by Valvoline, who supplies it to MB. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Is there a brand that works well mixed with the MB orange stuff? I

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread WILTON
Rusty sent the last MB antifreeze I bought. 'Came to my front door. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze Is there a brand that

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
You can buy Zerex G-05 at the FLAPS. Same stuff. Allan On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:03 -0400, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a brand that works well mixed with the MB orange stuff? I have to drive 90 miles to get to a Benz dealer. Mike On Aug 19, 2011 8:50 AM, Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] S320 transmission needed

2011-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you do end up needing a transmission and want to go used, I have a spare one I was keeping in case I ever needed it I might be able to sell you. On 8/18/2011 6:48 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: A Snap-On product of some sort. I will ask about the tool tomorrow. Bill -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I've done that on long hills/going through winding corners. Much better than hitting brakes, letting off, hitting brakes, lettng off, hitting brakes... Beter handling response as well. Problem is, you still have to hit the brakes anyways, to get the lights up, or the person behind you will

Re: [MBZ] 603 filter change, cranking forever

2011-08-19 Thread Dieselhead
At the tank, or under the hood between the hard line and the prefilter. For a temp, I'd put it under the hood. Curt: After 30 seconds of cranking with no start the car should reek of diesel... Max: Unless the fuel system is not yet fully primed? That's why I like Loren's idea to put in an

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/macomb_county/man-trys-to-imitate-fred-flintstone-and-stop-car-with-his-feet On 8/19/11 9:36 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: I've done that on long hills/going through winding corners. Much better than hitting brakes, letting off, hitting brakes, lettng off, hitting

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Yep, and for the small price difference over green death, I stick with what I know works. I also have heard something about cylinder sleeve erosion of some kind, but I may be mixing my facts up. Walt On Aug 19, 2011 9:30 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: You can buy Zerex G-05 at

[MBZ] 87 300SDL, trans not shifting to OD

2011-08-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Friend is looking to buy it, has an I6. Owner states that it won't shift into OD sometimes, and if he's accelerating and it shifts up to OD it it will sometimes feel like it goes into neutral. What say the list? My bet is it's a vac issue, but... Walt ___

[MBZ] Current Mobil-1 ATF, is it appropriate for older trans

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
One of the things on my to-do list for the 300SD is to change the transmission fluid. I've used Mobil-1 ATF in the past in my W123 300D, with no issues, but wondering if anything's changed recently. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL, trans not shifting to OD

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Owner states that it won't shift into OD sometimes, SDL doesn't have overdrive. Standard 1-2-3-4, 4 is 1:1. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL, trans not shifting to OD

2011-08-19 Thread Tim C
On Aug 19, 2011 10:05 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Friend is looking to buy it, has an I6. Great engine, great body. Head greater than 14 (middle number) is better. Owner states that it won't shift into OD sometimes, and if he's accelerating and it shifts up to OD it it will

Re: [MBZ] OT - deleting email

2011-08-19 Thread Tim C
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Setup a filter for them, and make it retroactivly apply. Then search by filter, and delete them page by page. Or, click the 'all' button, and then click the little popup textlink that asks you if you want to select all

Re: [MBZ] the 300SD laundry list begins

2011-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh the fun! On the fuel leak don't discount the metal washer under the bolt that holds the filter. My '78 240D was leaking there recently, the washer looked just fine but swapping in the disreputable looking one from my '83 parts car solved the issue. I'm sure Rusty can supply such a thing.

Re: [MBZ] oil filters (was green antifreeze)

2011-08-19 Thread John Reames
Here it is; it was minimopar... http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:09, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Green has a pH of 11 or so. Hot aluminum and bases mix too

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond
I was under the impression that most dozers of recent vintage (back into the '80s certainly) had hydro transmissions which is what allows for the constant back and forth they do all day. Certainly the D7 that I ran back in 1997 would go from VERY slow to relatively quick with just additional

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Not to the level you can with a manual. The torque converter will always leave slop in the driveline, that is after all its job. -Curt Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:07:01 +0930 From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] We all

Re: [MBZ] 603 filter change, cranking forever

2011-08-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: It's been on the Battery Tender for 24 hours now and the red light is still on, indicating it's not anywhere near a full charge. Battery Tender?  You want something more analogous to SNL's Colon Blow cereal, a real

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: The worst for plastics is the Dexcool/Orange stuff.  I used that once in a VW Jetta and all the plastic hose adapters on the head started leaking within 6 months. Didn't GM invent Dex-Cool and push it as the

Re: [MBZ] the 300SD laundry list begins

2011-08-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh the fun! On the fuel leak don't discount the metal washer under the bolt that holds the filter. My '78 240D was leaking there recently, the washer looked just fine but swapping in the disreputable looking one

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Hertzing
I sure hope not. In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core. Big bucks and a pain to fix. Peter On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Allan

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Craig
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:55:55 -0500 Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: I sure hope not. In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core. Big bucks and a pain to fix. In any event, when you change to MB/Zerex G-05,

Re: [MBZ] 603 filter change, cranking forever

2011-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Ah, you've got a 12A charger. That's the ticket. Just put it on the depleted battery overnight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL, trans not shifting to OD

2011-08-19 Thread Tim C
On Aug 19, 2011 10:05 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Owner states that it won't shift into OD sometimes Had the same issue on the way to lunch, make sure the linkage is right; transmission was on 3 in my case due to ham-handed-ness. Easy enough to make sure that it goes to 2,

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
I don't know about the GM stuff, but I do know that combining green and gold is a very bad thing. We saw this on occasion with industrial engines, and if the engine is not thoroughly rinsed out to remove all traces of the old coolant, damage will almost always occur. Dan Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Benz Hogs
Valvoline claims the Zerex G05 lasts 5 years. I stress CLAIMS Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 8/19/2011 8:28 AM, Allan Streib wrote: It will probably do no short term harm but the problem with coolant is most folks don't

[MBZ] fuel filter washer leaks

2011-08-19 Thread Dwight Giles Jr.
Yes-that 78 240D seems to need a new washer every time-we had trouble with that since my brother bought it. That said, in the last two weeks I have had friends who had leaks on top of filters for OM617's -usually can't torque it away. I carry spares in glove box. Yesterday my friend found some

Re: [MBZ] Current Mobil-1 ATF, is it appropriate for older trans

2011-08-19 Thread Dwight Giles Jr.
Allan, Like you I have used Mobil 1 ATF in older MB automatics. I don't know specs -seems like a lost cause thread anyway-but I went last week to get some Mobile 1 ATF for my new 300 CD and noticed they now had two versions-the old fully synthetic ATF and the newer Mobil 1 synthetic for Dexron-

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: I sure hope not.  In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core.  Big bucks and a pain to fix. So what's the best thing to replace it with? GO-5?

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Fmiser
Hendrik Fay wrote: Well a good auto is a good thing, reminds me of a story I heard many years ago, a road train was stuck on a wheat farm in WA and they got a D9 in to pull it out, after breaking the first chain they got a bigger chain, D9 bogged down. Got in a Allis Chalmers N9 harvester

Re: [MBZ] Current Mobil-1 ATF, is it appropriate for older trans

2011-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Is the new stuff rated Dexron VI? According to GM, the DexVI supersedes DexIII and is the only stuff to use, in everything from a 1955 Powerglide to a new car. OTOH, GM didn't make the transmissions in our mbz... Mitch. Dwight Giles Jr. wrote: Allan, Like you I have used Mobil 1 ATF in

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110819/a5dc34bd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http

Re: [MBZ] fuel filter washer leaks

2011-08-19 Thread Fmiser
Dwight Giles Jr. wrote: Yes-that 78 240D seems to need a new washer every time-we had trouble with that since my brother bought it. That said, in the last two weeks I have had friends who had leaks on top of filters for OM617's -usually can't torque it away. I carry spares in glove box.

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: I sure hope not. In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core. Big bucks and a pain to fix. So what's the best thing

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Hertzing
Honestly - I think you have hit the issue right on the head - Replace. If your changing your fluid every 2 years - I don't think it will ever be an issue. When I was in college and a little later my wife and I had a 1985 Vanagon camper. Everyone we knew who had one complained about the cooling

Re: [MBZ] the 300SD laundry list begins

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:42 -0700, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Seems to me the banjo bolt washers on the fuel filter are aluminum, but I might be wrong. Can you re-anneal aluminum? I'd think it might catch fire Did you try re-annealing the old one (assuming it was

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:55 -0500, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: I sure hope not. In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core. Big bucks and a pain to fix. As I recall they did claim it to be lifetime

Re: [MBZ] Current Mobil-1 ATF, is it appropriate for older trans

2011-08-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Last time I checked, it was approved for MB sheet 236.10. The description of 236.10 states All MB automatic transmissions without regulated torque converter lockup clutch in passenger cars can either be filled with the ATF as per Sheet 236.10 or the ATF as per Sheets 236.1/.6/.7/.81/.9. ...from

Re: [MBZ] the 300SD laundry list begins

2011-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:42 -0700, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Seems to me the banjo bolt washers on the fuel filter are aluminum, but I might be wrong. Can you re-anneal aluminum? I'd think it might catch fire Aluminum oxidizes fast, but not that

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:41 -0500, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: I was talking to a Cat mechanic recently. He told me they have some prototype 'dozers that are diesel-electric. He said the users love them and they will tear the cleats of the track with the high-torque/low-speed available

Re: [MBZ] Current Mobil-1 ATF, is it appropriate for older trans

2011-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
No idea if the formula has changed, I'd say keep using it. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: One of the things on my to-do list for the 300SD is to change the transmission fluid. I've used Mobil-1 ATF in the

Re: [MBZ] the 300SD laundry list begins

2011-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond
I didn't. IIRC its aluminum but I kept it... -Curt Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:42:39 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] the 300SD laundry list begins Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond
I think you're thinking specifically of DexCool there. Zerex brands G05 as being compatible with all types of coolant. In fact I've had 2 cars now with mixed G05 and green stuff. When I did the water pump on my '83 240D it was so cold out (well below freezing) I had no interest in anything

Re: [MBZ] 603 filter change, cranking forever

2011-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Somebody had asked about that earlier. Most big batteries will take 2a forever... My 12a charger has recently decided it doesn't want to shut off from the 12a setting on smaller batteries. Its boiled my motorcycle battery twice. Now when I'm using it for that (the motorcycle hasn't been ridden

Re: [MBZ] fuel filter washer leaks

2011-08-19 Thread Curt Raymond
It caught me off guard, this is the only time I've ever had one leak... -Curt Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:19:57 -0400 From: Dwight Giles Jr. degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] fuel filter washer leaks Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] fuel filter washer leaks

2011-08-19 Thread Michael Canfield
Good idea Phillip. I will do that this afternoon on my 83 300d. Been leaking a tiny bit and it is starting to make a mess. Mike On Aug 19, 2011 1:53 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Dwight Giles Jr. wrote: Yes-that 78 240D seems to need a new washer every time-we had trouble with that

Re: [MBZ] More ATF Questions

2011-08-19 Thread Randy Bennell
So, leaving Mobil 1 out for the moment - what else is an acceptable fluid for an old MB? I just bought a whole bunch of Mercon V ATF for my F150. I do not have a bottle of it in front of me now, but I note that it says it is compatible with Dexron III etc if memory serves to be correct. Is

Re: [MBZ] Onstar on MB

2011-08-19 Thread Rick Knoble
Well, that sucks. There are just too many places with no cellular coverage still --- like half of Oklahoma. Consider the lowly Wilson 3W cellular amplifier/antenna. Adds several bars and a lot of range to my Razr. And it is a bit pricey, but insignificant if you are traveling in dead

Re: [MBZ] More ATF Questions

2011-08-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Many folks think I'm crazy, but I use a 236.6 approved formula. Febi 08971: http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=ol5n53imtde0xm55tflmofyzpn=W0133-1637687 , Available if you search for MB part number 000 989 92 03 a lot of place online. (But no dealer will sell it to you) Its

Re: [MBZ] fuel filter washer leaks

2011-08-19 Thread John Reames
Did you ever replace the o-rings on the hollow bolt? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Aug 19, 2011, at 13:19, Dwight Giles Jr. degco...@cox.net wrote: Yes-that 78 240D seems to need a new washer every time-we had trouble with that since my

Re: [MBZ] fuel filter washer leaks

2011-08-19 Thread degcoast
Don't they come with the filter? I know you have to order them for the oil filter on OM61x Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:33:24 To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL, trans not shifting to OD

2011-08-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
The seller has it priced at $600, doesn't get much cheaper than that. Walt On Aug 19, 2011 10:58 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Aug 19, 2011 10:05 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Friend is looking to buy it, has an I6. Great engine, great body. Head greater than 14 (middle

Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL, trans not shifting to OD

2011-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Walt Zarnoch wrote: The seller has it priced at $600, doesn't get much cheaper than that. Not too long ago, anything with a running 603 was worth that easily. Today, anything with an S in the name is worth at least $400 based on weight. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Severe corrosion. Use only the MB stuff or Zerex G-05 or exact equivalent. The green stuff contains phosphates, which will also precipitate in the radiator, permanently clogging it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Iffy ideas

2011-08-19 Thread RELNGSON
...Didn't GM invent Dex-Cool and push it as the be-all-and-end-all of antifreeze, nontoxic and never needing to be changed?.. They also built the Chevrolet Citation. I'm not taking advice from them. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] trans

2011-08-19 Thread RELNGSON
OTOH, GM didn't make the transmissions in our mbz... What was that 3-speed in the 116 4.5 V-8? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

[MBZ] LubroMoly follow-up

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Ran all over town today buying fluids for my 300SD. Autozone was the first stop, they had the M1 ATF but not the Zerex G-05. Stopped at Wal-Mart next, they used to have Zerex but no more, it's all Prestone Any Color now. One day I'll learn not to bother with Wal-Mart any more. I did pick up a

Re: [MBZ] coolants

2011-08-19 Thread RELNGSON
..VW also claims (or did at one time) lifetime coolant (their blue formula, G11 or G12? ) but I don't know if they still do... Current MB models use coolant with a 15 year change interval (!). Prior to that they recommended phosphate-free changed every three years which was the GO-5

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: Severe corrosion. Use only the MB stuff or Zerex G-05 or exact equivalent. The green stuff contains phosphates, which will also precipitate in the radiator, permanently clogging it. What's the best way to flush the block? I am thinking about

Re: [MBZ] Iffy ideas

2011-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Didn't GM invent Dex-Cool and push it as the be-all-and-end-all of antifreeze, nontoxic and never needing to be changed?.. They also built the Chevrolet Citation. Had one of the first ones, 4 cylinder, 4 speed, five door, F41 suspension. Back seat folded flush with

Re: [MBZ] coolants

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
relng...@aol.com writes: ..VW also claims (or did at one time) lifetime coolant (their blue formula, G11 or G12? ) but I don't know if they still do... Current MB models use coolant with a 15 year change interval (!). Prior to that they recommended phosphate-free changed every three years

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I've used a wet/dry vac hooked to the waterpump outlet with duct tape. Let it run for a while, seemed to do a good job. Walt On Aug 19, 2011 8:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: Severe corrosion. Use only the MB stuff or Zerex G-05 or

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
That will help, but it's best to flush, run the system with fresh water, flush again, and fill. It won't completely remove the old coolant, but will lower the concentration levels to insignificant amounts. Ideally, if you can pull the block drain and flush you'll get nearly all of it out.

Re: [MBZ] trans

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Not a GM trans. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Open the block drain. Every Benz has one. May be pretty stuck if it's had green coolant in it for an extended period. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Iffy ideas

2011-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's great you never have to change it, that's what Gm says Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:15 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Didn't GM invent Dex-Cool and push it as the be-all-and-end-all of antifreeze, nontoxic and never needing to be changed?.. They also built the Chevrolet

Re: [MBZ] We all live in a yellow G machine

2011-08-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
Some did, some didn't. Depending on what the customer needs. Hendrik who does not own a dozer Curt Raymond wrote: I was under the impression that most dozers of recent vintage (back into the '80s certainly) had hydro transmissions which is what allows for the constant back and forth they do

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
FSM says to install fitting at upper radiator hose for a water source (garden hose), install a thermostat that is forced open, open the block drain, and start the engine to flush the coolant. I went to the pick-n-pull for a short section of radiator hose, bought a T fitting and garden hose

Re: [MBZ] LubroMoly follow-up

2011-08-19 Thread Hendrik Fay
Speaking of luby Moly, anyone use their Diesel purge/clean/flush product? Hendrik Allan Streib wrote: Ran all over town today buying fluids for my 300SD. Autozone was the first stop, they had the M1 ATF but not the Zerex G-05. Stopped at Wal-Mart next, they used to have Zerex but no more,

Re: [MBZ] LubroMoly follow-up

2011-08-19 Thread Craig
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:36:58 +0930 Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Speaking of luby Moly, anyone use their Diesel purge/clean/flush product? I have and I am sure lots of others have, too. Cleans out lots of things. In fact, when installing a new fuel filter, fill it with Diesel

[MBZ] 300D to replace Gump?

2011-08-19 Thread Mountain Man
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Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Fmiser
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: Severe corrosion. Use only the MB stuff or Zerex G-05 or exact equivalent. The green stuff contains phosphates, which will also precipitate in the radiator, permanently clogging it. Allan Streib wrote: What's the best way to flush the

[MBZ] Battery

2011-08-19 Thread Craig
I'm going to need to get a new battery for our '95 E320. What is the good brand du jour? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Battery

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: I'm going to need to get a new battery for our '95 E320. What is the good brand du jour? I've always had good luck with Interstate. I seem to recall that Marshall Booth liked Optima. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Cathey
I guess you could then connect a hose and flush it. But with the block drain open and the lower radiator hose off, I'm pretty sure there will effectively be no coolant left. It was amazing to me, with a water hose feed and a leak out the top of the filler neck, engine running, just how long

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: It was amazing to me, with a water hose feed and a leak out the top of the filler neck, engine running, just how long the clear outflow tasted sour. You *taste* your engine coolant??? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] Battery

2011-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Go with a name brand offend proper group size and you'll be fine. Johnson Controls makes just about all of the batteries with a few exceptions. As for the Optimas, I think they are battery blind unless you have an older diesel and live in temperate climates. They almost always require

Re: [MBZ] Battery

2011-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Damned autocomplete. That's of the not offend and battery bling, not blind. Grr Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Go with a name brand offend proper group size and you'll be fine. Johnson Controls makes just about all of the

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
But you also need to force the t-stat open and get flow through the heater core, so engine needs to be running, heater on, block drain open, fresh water flowing in via fitting at upper radiator hose. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Fmiser

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
That is a great idea! Just a dab on your tongue will tell you if it's really clean or not. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: It was amazing to me, with a water hose

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Booher
I couldn't see anything inside for the amount of white smoke coming outside. I understand this is blow by? Opened oil filler, put in about a half quart of fresh oil, left filler cap off and started car. White smoke was immediate. I'm not sure I want to know what that means. I did see a lot of

Re: [MBZ] OM616 oil pump

2011-08-19 Thread Ed Booher
On another note car was shaking so badly that I damaged my hinges / springs. Hood will no longer hold itself up unless I open fully, and then I think it's more along the lines of being at an angle that won't let it fall more than holding itself there. EdB -- Das beste oder nichts. -

Re: [MBZ] Battery

2011-08-19 Thread Craig
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:22:20 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Go with a name brand of the proper group size and you'll be fine. Johnson Controls makes just about all of the batteries with a few exceptions. Autozone? NAPA? Metzger's Mobil? (That's all we have in town, and NAPA is

Re: [MBZ] Citation

2011-08-19 Thread RELNGSON
...Had one of the first ones, 4 cylinder, 4 speed, five door, F41 suspension. Back seat folded flush with the trunk floor just like a Saab Wagonback. Best little truck I ever owned, and the first car I owned past 200,000 miles... You, sir, are a masochist. RLE

Re: [MBZ] Citation

2011-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
relng...@aol.com wrote: You, sir, are a masochist. In 1985, there was no such thing as a $500 300SD, so I made do with what I could afford. Considering I paid $435 for it in 1985 and put about 64,000 miles on it in the next four years, I don't see how I could have done better. When I lived

Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Cathey
You *taste* your engine coolant??? Once it looked like water I gave it a little lick, and was surprised how sour it still was. So I kept flushing until it tasted more like water too. Did not consume any, rinsed and spit afterwards. Why tax the buffering of the new incoming coolant by putting

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