[MBZ] W124 Console

2011-10-31 Thread Craig
Does anyone know how to take apart the console of a W124? I need to replace the switches on our '95 E320 and looked at the way to do it and found it wasn't obvious. The first difference between the W124 and the W123 is getting the sliding-lid compartment off -- I don't see any hold-down screws in

[MBZ] LCA bushing orientation

2011-10-31 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I noticed that the LCA bushings have two opposing flat areas. Do the flats need to be oriented in a specific way relative to the LCA? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead
When #1 daughter had my 300D (1987, 124) the battery would sometimes discharge overnight, but not consistently. Since I got it back in May, there has been no problem until Sat, when SWMBO went out and it would not start. (~30 degrees) Turns out the battery was dead flat. No light left on.

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley
vac pump? You're sure no lights are on? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 83 300d oil pan needed

2011-10-31 Thread Rusty Cullens
I have it new for $27.00 and the gasket for $9.00. Why buy it used? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield

Re: [MBZ] 83 300d oil pan needed

2011-10-31 Thread Randy Bennell
On 30/10/2011 4:00 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: I need a replacement oil pan for my 300d. Kaleb, anyone? How much shipped to 14865? Thanks, Mike ___ Check with Rusty on the price of a new one. I got one for my 115 300D and it was relatively cheap. Randy

[MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Randy Bennell
I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been intending to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been waiting for me, patiently, I hope. On Saturday, I changed the oil. A lovely job on these old devils where one must crawl under instead of standing upright with one's

Re: [MBZ] 83 300d oil pan needed

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Canfield
Thanks Rusty. No reason at all to buy used at that price. I am making a list of stuff to order from you and will be giving you a call as soon as I can scrape up some cash. Thanks again, Mike On Oct 31, 2011 11:54 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have it new for $27.00 and the

Re: [MBZ] 83 300d oil pan needed

2011-10-31 Thread Rusty Cullens
Sounds good to me! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL on eBay

2011-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond
The leather is really good except for being moldy, what a deal! -Curt Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:17:07 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL on eBay Message-ID: 4eae0523.3070...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain;

[MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Douglas Jones
Will I have to remove the front passenger side door panel to replace the door check strap (hope not)? TNX D.O.Jones ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead
Pull the lower hose. I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been intending to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been waiting for me, patiently, I hope. On Saturday, I changed the oil. A lovely job on these old devils where one must crawl under instead of

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead
Yes After removing the obvious parts, push up on the bottom of the door panel. It is held on with (what are now brittle) plastic clips. Itere is one 10 mm nut inside, and 2 bolts from the outside. Always lube the new part with moly grease before installing. Otherwise, it will grate and

Re: [MBZ] W124 Console

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
'Just sent some of the console info. 'Trying to find the more preliminary stuff, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:30 AM Subject: [MBZ] W124 Console Does anyone know how to take

Re: [MBZ] W124 Console

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
'Just sent coupla pdf's. Have you looked under carpet inside the center compartment? Have I sent enough to help yet? Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:30 AM Subject: [MBZ] W124 Console

Re: [MBZ] W124 Console

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
BTW, check peachparts.com, also. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Console 'Just sent some of the console info. 'Trying to find the more

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
WHere are you that it's already - 30 degrees? On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: vac pump? You're sure no lights are on? __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Max
Pre-glow relay? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: When #1 daughter had my 300D (1987, 124) the battery would sometimes discharge overnight, but not consistently. Since I got it back in May, there has been no problem until Sat, when SWMBO

[MBZ] trap oxidizer on my 1985 CA version 300TD

2011-10-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
One of the Amerian Service Center technicians at the Oct. 15 MBCA DIY tech session recommended I check with the dealership concenring the recall on the trap oxidizer for CA version 1985 turbodiesels. Not clear whether the recall (warranty) would cover my engine, since it had been transplanted

Re: [MBZ] W124 Console

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
If you need to remove radio, here are instructions for making instr cluster/radio extraction tool from piece of coat hanger. I made two instrument cluster/radio extraction tools from coat hangers: on one end of a piece of coat hanger about 8 to 10 long, sharply bend a 3/16 length of it at 95

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: WHere are you that it's already - 30 degrees? It was about 20° F here in lower Michigan when I got up this AM. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Brilliant. Now why didn't I think of that. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Pull the lower hose. I need to change out the coolant in my 76 115 300D. I have been intending to do it ever since I bought the car and it has been waiting for me, patiently,

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
Yeah but he said MINUS 30. Or was that ~ [squiggle] 30?? What do you call that sideways s anyway? On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: WHere are you that it's already - 30 degrees? It was about 20° F here in lower Michigan when I

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Luther's Benz
~ is a tilde. Luther On Oct 31, 2011 2:19 PM, andrew strasfogel lt;astrasfo...@gmail.comgt; wrote: Yeah but he said MINUS 30. Or was that ~ [squiggle] 30?? What do you call that sideways s anyway? On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Mitch Haley lt;m...@voyager.netgt; wrote: gt; andrew

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Dan Penoff
And it means approximately in the context used. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: ~ is a tilde. Luther On Oct 31, 2011 2:19 PM, andrew strasfogel lt;astrasfo...@gmail.comgt; wrote: Yeah but he said MINUS 30. Or was

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
About/approximately.;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Yeah but he said MINUS 30. Or was that ~

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
Actually, ~ = probability distribution; a double one is approximately or about/approximately equal, but the single one is a lot quicker and easier to type. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond
All the new (as opposed to new-to-me) check straps I've ever gotten have had grease in them already... -Curt Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:58:44 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Randy Bennell
That is way too practical. Then I won't have cause to post more questions about how to repair the bung that I twisted out of my rad, or where the best place to buy a new rad is etc. I might have to try to start a new oil thread. Randy On 31/10/2011 2:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead
One of the last new ones i got is squeaking already. I didn't grease it because I didn't have moly grease handy at the time. I recommend to always grease them with Moly grease. That way they last nearly forever as opposed to 1-2 years. (I won't use ~20 years, as that might confuse andrew)

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Fred Moir
Alles. The last replacement drivers door strap on my 190Dt was new from Rusty. (All Hail Rusty!) It had some smear of nondescript grease on it so I just installed it as received, including the plastic shield. Couple of months later, it started to sqeeek at every motion. Removed and

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: One of the last new ones i got is squeaking already. I didn't grease it because I didn't have moly grease handy at the time. I recommend to always grease them with Moly grease. What about door hinges? I noticed a sort of concave port on mine that I

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead
Dunno what they call it, but I got my adapticator from a chain saw store. It snaps into a regular grease gun and has the little deal to fit the grease port. Do carry a grease rag. The tend to send grease out sideways too. If your car has ever been repainted, you may need a pin to break

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead
Amen Brüder! Say Hallelujah Alles. The last replacement drivers door strap on my 190Dt was new from Rusty. (All Hail Rusty!) It had some smear of nondescript grease on it so I just installed it as received, including the plastic shield. Couple of months later, it started to sqeeek at

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: Dunno what they call it, but I got my adapticator from a chain saw store. Don't know the name either, but it's used to grease the bar sprocket. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Definitely pull the lower hose. Messing with the drain bolt is asking for trouble. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: That is way too practical. Then I won't have cause to post more questions about how to repair the bung that I twisted

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Allan Streib
Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes: Definitely pull the lower hose. Messing with the drain bolt is asking for trouble. I don't even think my W123 has a drain bolt. Not sure about the W116 have not changed it yet. I always just pull the lower hose. In general be very careful with

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Frederick
I don't believe I've ever had a problem with an MB coolant drain in the radiator. Most W123s will have a plastic plug with a screwdriver slot and an o-ring seal, they don't need to be super tight and don't break. The one on the 280 SE is a standard winged plug sort of drain, but it

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Benz Hogs
How do you type the double ~? Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 10/31/2011 4:17 PM, WILTON wrote: Actually, ~ = probability distribution; a double one is approximately or about/approximately equal, but the single one is a lot quicker and

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Benz Hogs wrote: How do you type the double ~? ≈. (alt)247 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
When mine start getting balky, I squirt some M1 up in there on it via the gap around the strap/arm. Just did left rear door on my 124 few days ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Allan Streib
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: When mine start getting balky, I squirt some M1 up in there on it via the gap around the strap/arm. Just did left rear door on my 124 few days ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Allan Streib
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: When mine start getting balky, I squirt some M1 up in there on it via the gap around the strap/arm. Just did left rear door on my 124 few days ago. I've always been of the understanding that if they get balky you replace them, lest you find yourself away from

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
C'est le problem - je ne sais pas. I don't know - 'never typed it. 'Guess that's why the single one is generally used for about. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
Please 'splain (alt)247. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge C'est le problem - je ne sais pas. I don't know - 'never typed it.

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
- Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Benz Hogs wrote: How do you type the double ~? ≈. (alt)247

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Allan Streib
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: Please 'splain (alt)247. A way to type special characters in Windows. Holding down the ALT key, you type the code on the number pad. http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codealt.html Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
Well, few days ago, I was at home when I realized I'd better do something. 'Squirted it - working nice and easy since. Left front door was very stiff when I got the 124 7+ years ago; gave it the squirt treatment; been fine since. Right rear door on the 126 was stiff and noisy coupla years

Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q

2011-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond
My '81 300TD had a little rubber/plastic plug thing, I think my '83 240D has a metal bung of some sort... -Curt Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:08:14 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant change Q Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
Oh! The NUMBER pad! Yep, 'works. ? Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
Uh oh; 'had the ≈ (double squiggle) on my screen; came through as ? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Oh! The NUMBER pad!

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
'Sent it second time as unicode. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Uh oh; 'had the ≈ (double squiggle) on my screen; came

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead
Well, I think I am down to things that have juice with the key off. ‚ antenna, because it has been unplugged ‚ alt, because battery is 12.54V, engine off. Charging voltage 13.98 lights off, 13.91 lights on. I don't see a problem there. I have not heard of the GP relay causing current draw

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Frederick
Check for a bad interior light delay relay -- the one that keeps the interior lights on for a while after you close the door. They can fail so that they work properly keeping the lights on then turning them off, but the relay itself continues to draw current rather than unlatching as it's

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead
I got some spray in white grease last year at #1 daughter's house, and squirted it in. Didn't have much luck with that either. I still believe in the take it out and put in Moly grease None of those have ever made noise or had to be taken out again. I've never tried M1 though. To

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Dieselhead
Is that one of the ice cubes by the fuses? Or is it hidden away? I hope the CDs will tell. another thing to chase. Being an intermittent, it might be a long time before I can determine the culprit. Wilton was very quick to find his parasite. An ammeter would be good. If i can measure

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread Peter Frederick
Typically that relay is under the dash, but I'm not completely sure on the W124 -- none of mine have gone bad yet. Peter On Oct 31, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Is that one of the ice cubes by the fuses? Or is it hidden away? I hope the CDs will tell. another thing to chase.

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
I squirted liberally. 'Dripping out bottom of door for few minutes onto ground; yeah, I know; EPA's coming, but I haven't had to R R them yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Allan Streib
I could have sworn Marshall was one of the ones who repeatedly advised replacing the check straps at the first sign of trouble, and went to search the archives only to discover that Google thinks that okiebenz.com is a malware site and may harm your computer. Kaleb you might want to clean up as

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
Radio? Clock? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge Well, I think I am down to things that have juice with the key off. ,

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread OK Don
It's a needle grease nozzle, I think. http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/LINCOLN-Grease-Needle-Nozzle-6Y900 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Dunno what they call it, but I got my adapticator from a chain saw store. It snaps into a regular grease gun and has

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread OK Don
The trunk light is a usual suspect - look for a worn spot in the insulation. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Radio? Clock? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] W124 erratic discharge

2011-10-31 Thread WILTON
Recently, 'had another coupla days of overnight discharge in my 126; year or so ago, it was radio amp in trunk; few days ago, it was radio in center console. Now, BOTH lacking power - unplugged. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I've always been of the understanding that if they get balky you replace them, lest you find yourself away from home with a door that won't close. Only failure mode I've ever seen is that they get loose and allow the

Re: [MBZ] 87 420sel door check strap

2011-10-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I got some spray in white grease last year at #1 daughter's house, and squirted it in.  Didn't have much luck with that either. White lithium grease in a spray can is worthless in my experience. Whatever ingredient is in it