Max Dillon wrote:
So, let me get this straight. One belt drives the alternator. That alternator
provides the electricity to run the electric motors, which turn the oil pump,
water pump, compressor and power steering pump. And this saves horse power,
converting torque into electricity and
No, it looks like the E will be getting the 2.1 4cyl turbo diesel
instead (190 HP and 369 lb-ft of torque, badged E250), the same engine
the GLK will be available with shortly (ML to follow?) rumored to be
going in the new C-class as well.
-
Chris J.
On 12/5/2012 12:30 AM,
Not a Benz, but...
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3452336232.html
Was the rear-facing third row a common feature back in the heyday of
full-size American station wagons? I was a kid in the '70s but my parents
had a VW microbus, so this is interesting news to me if so.
Alex
Yeah I remember some that did, 60s and 70s models. Like the TD seat,
folded up from the floor in the wayback. I think some might have been
forward-facing too, but hard to get into.
--R
On 12/5/12 2:21 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Not a Benz, but...
Yugos are rare now, but doesn't mean they are desirable. There has to
be something else to make it desirable. The SLC just isn't as cute as
the SL. (Yes, I owned an SLC - it was the only 107 I could afford.)
On 12/4/12, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Looking to the future 10
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Not a Benz, but...
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3452336232.html
Was the rear-facing third row a common feature back in the heyday of
full-size American station wagons? I was a kid in the '70s but my parents
had a VW microbus, so this is interesting news to me
Don't forget the Ford LTD Country Squire Estate Wagon. Wow what a
namelol
Mike
On Dec 5, 2012 2:33 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Not a Benz, but...
A name almost as bad as the Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham d' Elegance. Sp?
Mike
On Dec 5, 2012 2:45 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't forget the Ford LTD Country Squire Estate Wagon. Wow what a
namelol
Mike
On Dec 5, 2012 2:33 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
And don't forget the Wagon Queen Family Truckster
--R
On 12/5/12 2:46 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
A name almost as bad as the Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham d' Elegance. Sp?
Mike
On Dec 5, 2012 2:45 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't forget the Ford LTD Country Squire
On 05/12/2012 1:21 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Not a Benz, but...
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3452336232.html
Was the rear-facing third row a common feature back in the heyday of
full-size American station wagons? I was a kid in the '70s but my parents
had a VW microbus, so this is
I disagree. The styling of the SL C is very unusual, whike the W107
SL is humdrum. The SL C is not for everyone, but there will be enough
afficionados around who appreciate it.
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Yugos are rare now, but doesn't mean they are
13 bids later, the price is now $3550 with 6 hrs. left in the auction..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-Pontiac-Bonneville-Station-Wagon-Big-Block-/261135052276?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0_from=R40_nkw=261135052276_rdc=1forcev4exp=true#ht_500wt_1182
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at
I grew up with a '72 Olds 88 455. It would 10-12 around town and 14 on the
highway. I later bought a '73 88 with a 350 2-bbl carb. I got a constant
11mpg no matter what.
They took regular gas.
Jon
On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
On 05/12/2012 1:21 PM, Alex Chamberlain
14 on the highway maybe but you are not going to convince me that it did
10-12 in town.
Randy
On 05/12/2012 2:34 PM, Jon Agne wrote:
I grew up with a '72 Olds 88 455. It would 10-12 around town and 14 on the
highway. I later bought a '73 88 with a 350 2-bbl carb. I got a constant
11mpg
I know both Ford and Chevy had wagons of that vintage with tear facing third
row seats. Vista Cruiser, etc., were all like that as I recall.
Dan who rode in some of those cars as a youngster
On Dec 5, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
Not a Benz, but...
I can believe ten around town. I had a Bonneville that would pull that
around town easy. The 455 hardly has to run with all of it's torque. The
Rochester Q'jet that came on those cars had smaller primaries than most
2bbl carbs of the time. If you had a very light foot you could get some
pretty
That was easy driving. If you really got on it, it was about 8-9mpg.
Honest...not kidding. I was a teenager, and every dollar counted!
On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
14 on the highway maybe but you are not going to convince me that it did
10-12 in town.
Randy
On
That Rochester was really an impressive carb. My brother and I would turn the
air cleaner cover over, and when you opened up the other 2 barrels, it really
sucked in the air!
On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
I can believe ten around town. I had a Bonneville that would
Family had a green Estate Wagon, with the third row seat.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
'73 Balboa 20
Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't forget the Ford LTD Country Squire Estate Wagon. Wow what a
namelol
Mike
On Dec 5, 2012 2:33 PM, Mitch Haley
By then the engines were smogged up and the 455 was a weakling but still
sucked gas like crazy. My dad had a Bonneville about that year or maybe
a 71, with the 455 and it was kinda doggish compared to the 389 4bbl 66
Bonneville I started out driving, and did worse on gas. Neither of them
Dreamer.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
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Mitch and Jim, thanks for trying to educate me.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
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Dreamer.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel
Well, my fuel injected F150 is only doing about 11 mpg - on the imperial
gallon - around town these days so I have to remain sceptical.
Those big old cars must have weighed as much as my truck and they
generally had bigger motors and did not have injection etc. They likely
had a lower final
My father in law had a big Ford wagon with the wood grain stuff and a
390 if I recall correctly. Cannot recall if it was the Ford or the
Mercury but I do recall that he did not keep it all that long because
the gas gauge appeared to be connected to the speedometer. When the
speedometer needle
I'm with you Andrew. I don't really want a convertible.
Randy
On 05/12/2012 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I disagree. The styling of the SL C is very unusual, whike the W107
SL is humdrum. The SL C is not for everyone, but there will be enough
afficionados around who appreciate it.
On
I really don't consider the mpg my Bonney got good. It was a pig. 10mpg
around town sucked. I was used to the mid 20's I got with my Opel. It
took a lot of practice to get 10 with that boat but it sure beat the 5-6 my
buddy was getting with his Coupe De Ville.
Mike
On Dec 5, 2012 5:59 PM,
Randy Bennell wrote:
PS - my brother in law has a '72 Ventura with a 455. No idea what the
mileage is because he refuses to check it.
My brother's Olds 98 had a 455 4bbl. Acceleration was quite impressive for
something that weighed over two tons. It got something like 15-18mpg if you
could
Yes, I agree. I think the SLC is a nicer car. We are clearly in the minority
here.
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On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
I disagree. The styling of the SL C is very unusual, whike the W107
SL is humdrum. The SL C is not for everyone,
On 05/12/2012 5:19 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Randy Bennell wrote:
PS - my brother in law has a '72 Ventura with a 455. No idea what the
mileage is because he refuses to check it.
My brother's Olds 98 had a 455 4bbl. Acceleration was quite impressive
for something that weighed over two tons. It
Randy Bennell wrote:
Yes, Brian's Ventura will spin the rear tires for as long as you want to
hold the pedal down.
Oh, yes, Ventura = Nova, right?
Stick a 455 in there and it'll stand on its nose from having all the weight in
the wrong end.
Mitch.
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My 500 Eldo gets about.. wait, I never checked, and never really cared.
Premium too.
--R
On 12/5/12 6:32 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
On 05/12/2012 5:19 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Randy Bennell wrote:
PS - my brother in law has a '72 Ventura with a 455. No idea what
the mileage is because he
Nova Omega Ventura Apollo. Stick a big block in any of them and hang on
tight. Had a 340hp 327 small block in a 4 door Nova..ate big block
cars off the line bad.
Mike
On Dec 5, 2012 6:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Randy Bennell wrote:
Yes, Brian's Ventura will spin the rear
Exactly!
On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Randy Bennell wrote:
PS - my brother in law has a '72 Ventura with a 455. No idea what the
mileage is because he refuses to check it.
My brother's Olds 98 had a 455 4bbl. Acceleration was quite impressive for
something that
Hi All,
I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5
1/2 x 14, part number 115 400 13 02.
I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ.
Thanks,
Jaime
ja...@jaimekop.com
--
Jaime Kopchinski
http://www.jaimekop.com/
Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 project?
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5
1/2 x 14, part number 115 400 13 02.
I
Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home.
It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice
175HR14 Vredestein tires!)
Jaime
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115
Cool. Nice color:) Any pics on your website yet?
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home.
It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice
175HR14 Vredestein
I guess I like the nostalgic look of the pagoda-like roof on the SL's
hardtop. I keep scheming for ways to get that on the SLC. Luckily, I sold
it before getting the torch and hammers out. The hardtop welded onto the SL
would be my ultimate 107 (with an OM603 engine).
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:27
Our '59 Chevy full sized wagon of some sort did --
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Not a Benz, but...
http://portland.craigslist.**org/clk/cto/3452336232.htmlhttp://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3452336232.html
Was the
Not at the moment... in a little while I'll get some up!
Jaime
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
Cool. Nice color:) Any pics on your website yet?
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
Yep... looks like a
I have the vred's on my '67 beetle (165R15).you can't go wrong with that
tire.
Jon
On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home.
It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice
175HR14 Vredestein
I had not seen that movie in YEARs, so long I had forgotten most
of it. I watched in Sunday. Great movie!
On 12/5/2012 1:56 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
And don't forget the Wagon Queen Family Truckster
--R
On 12/5/12 2:46 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
A name almost as bad as the Cadillac
My grandparents bought a brand new 68 Olds Delmont 88 with the
rocket 455 or whatever they call it, then my dad got it, then it
got hauled to the crusher or something in the early 90's
On 12/5/2012 2:34 PM, Jon Agne wrote:
I grew up with a '72 Olds 88 455. It would 10-12 around town and 14
Randy Bennell wrote:
Well, my fuel injected F150 is only doing about 11 mpg - on
the imperial gallon - around town these days so I have to
remain sceptical. Those big old cars must have weighed as much
as my truck and they generally had bigger motors and did not
have injection etc. They
I'm with you Andrew. I don't really want a convertible.
So leave the hardtop on. The SL, top-on, is a nice little coupe.
Had a girlfriend once whose dream car was this. Did _not_ want
the SLC, said it just didn't look the same. Would _never_ have
taken the top off. (Ended up with a Z4, as I
Got the dash pod back in, terrible job that, very little space, for me getting
the speedo cable back on was very difficult as was reconnecting the light pipes
to the various switches.
Anyway still no charging, the alternator light glows now, not full brightness,
maybe half way. That makes me
Typical failure of the regulators, BUT sometimes it's more. A new
regulator will tell you, as it will restore full function if that's
all that's wrong (and usually it's only the brushes anyway), but if
that doesn't work, it's new alternator time.
Regulator is on the bottom of the
Clean the slip rings before you put the new regulator in - BTDT.
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:
Typical failure of the regulators, BUT sometimes it's more. A new
regulator will tell you, as it will restore full function if that's all
that's wrong
So cars down under really do run upside down
clay
On Dec 4, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote:
I am sure the purists will make the usual noises.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/semaphore/cars-vans-utes/1977-porsche-924-coupe/1009536457
Hendrik
who is half tempted to buy that for
The same as the 220D.
The bigger issue is finding somebody with that sort of patience and pocket book
deep enough to keep it that pristine. A greater probability is that it ends up
a barn find in thirty years and happens to be the only one within 2500km
clay
On Dec 4, 2012, at 8:08 PM,
If you had the third seat option, it was rear facing since at least the 1950's
as I recall.
clay
On Dec 5, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Not a Benz, but...
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3452336232.html
Was the rear-facing third row a common feature back in the
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:56:47 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi All,
I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars.
5 1/2 x 14, part number 115 400 13 02.
I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ.
Jaime,
I have two of them
Maybe.
I put money on the SL owners being willing to pay for a reasonable example of a
SLC to use as parts over somebody plunking down hard cash to then have to pay
five times purchase price to sort it out.
clay
On Dec 5, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I disagree. The styling
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 19:39:52 -0800 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
wrote:
If you had the third seat option, it was rear facing since at least the
1950's as I recall.
We had a 1954 Ford wagon that had the third seat. It was forward facing.
Craig
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I have a pair, but they would have to travel the length of I-90 to get to you.
clay
On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Hi All,
I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5
1/2 x 14, part number 115 400 13 02.
I need two, but would take four
These are the standard steel wheels used on all of the early 70's cars with 14
inch wheels
On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:58 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 project?
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski
I might have that color hub cap as well
clay
On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home.
It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice
175HR14 Vredestein tires!)
Jaime
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at
And when it leaks, you can pop it off and install fresh seals
clay
On Dec 5, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I'm with you Andrew. I don't really want a convertible.
So leave the hardtop on. The SL, top-on, is a nice little coupe.
Had a girlfriend once whose dream car was this. Did
...So, let me get this straight. One belt drives the alternator. That
alternator provides the electricity to run the electric motors, which turn
the oil pump, water pump, compressor and power steering pump. And this
saves horse power, converting torque into electricity and then back into
...OK will save up money to buy poorly balanced rear engine version...
Better check the prices.
RLE
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...Obviously because the _average_ load is much lower than the peak
supply that the mechanical-only is capable of supplying.
Enough so that it more than pays for the efficiency losses due to the
double conversionThink of the oil pressure relief valves, for example. My
guess is the real
1. Let us assume that the engineers want at least 50psi oil pressure
at cruising
speed, and that takes about 1/2 gpm. Let us also assume that a mechanical
drive
oil pump puts out 1.5gpm at that engine speed, and the pressure relief
valve is
set for 90psi. So the mechanical pump has
Weld it on - no more seals to mess with.
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:53 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
And when it leaks, you can pop it off and install fresh seals
clay
On Dec 5, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I'm with you Andrew. I don't really want a convertible.
So
1. Let us assume that the engineers want at least 50psi oil pressure
at cruising
speed, and that takes about 1/2 gpm. Let us also assume that a mechanical
drive
oil pump puts out 1.5gpm at that engine speed, and the pressure relief
valve is
set for 90psi. So the mechanical pump has
I've got all the matching parts he needs.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi)
On 12/5/2012 4:11 PM, Frederick Moir wrote:
Dreamer.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
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What about the 90s 5cl OM603? It'd be fun driving a 35mpg diesel
convertible :)
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi)
On 12/5/2012 6:24 PM, OK Don wrote:
I guess I like the nostalgic look of the pagoda-like roof on the SL's
hardtop. I keep scheming for ways to get
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