Re: [MBZ] Carfax?

2013-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Thanks. Good to know - the car I was interested got sold, so no need at this point. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 2, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: yea I can run a carfax anytime, I have access to several dealer accounts. On 11/29/2013 2:47 PM, Dan Penoff

Re: [MBZ] I can't think of a crappier way to start the day….

2013-12-03 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:37:56 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Looks like Mitch's mail account hiccuped. It's done this before. Mitch's? Or Kalebs? Must be K'leb's. I haven't seen squat. Poos, can you put the

Re: [MBZ] I can't think of a crappier way to start the day….

2013-12-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:23 AM, M. Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:37:56 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Looks like Mitch's mail account hiccuped. It's done this before. Mitch's? Or

Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?

2013-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
You could wire up a glow plug light on your bicycle easily enough... -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 22:09:51 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs? Message-ID:    

Re: [MBZ] I can't think of a crappier way to start the day….

2013-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff
I'll toss them in my Dropbox and post a link tonight. Might be a little while as I have final in my Cisco class tonight. It's pictures of a W109 going up in flames. I had been talking to the owner about a possible purchase when it occurred. Seems he replaced all of the flexible lines on the

Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?

2013-12-03 Thread Randy Bennell
On 03/12/2013 12:05 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Except that it took SO LONG when it was cold, and if one plug burnt out, they were all dead - series wiring. I was really glad to get a car with the new style plugs. Alligator clip jumper over the bad one, and go on? Well, that was a problem with

Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?

2013-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick
It is easier to use a voltmeter on series plugs -- no voltage after the dead one. You can use a screwdriver and short to ground as well -- no spark means the next plug toward the rear is shot. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?

2013-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
poor old bicycle lives outside right next to salt water :( i think my next going shopping bicycle will be built out of aluminum On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You could wire up a glow plug light on your bicycle easily enough... -Curt Date: Mon, 2

Re: [MBZ] Testing Glow Plugs

2013-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I was thinking that was the total amperage draw on 5 GPs, in which case the resistance would be 5x higher on each plug. --R On 12/2/13 6:50 PM, Fmiser wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: They should show just a few ohms of resistance, like 3 or 4 if I recall. Zero not good, infinite not good.

Re: [MBZ] Testing Glow Plugs

2013-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Room temperature resistance should be 0.7 to 0.8 ohm. It will go up quite a bit as they heat, of course. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Slow list

2013-12-03 Thread Randy Bennell
Not much activity today. Usually there is something new any time I check but today, not much. Either those old MB's are running well, or you are out there swearing at them and throwing wrenches. Randy who ran the truck through the carwash today and filled with fuel and that is about it for

Re: [MBZ] Slow list

2013-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Actually I was digging up grape vines and pulling (and setting) posts. Never did get to the neutral wire repair on the garage, will do that tomorrow evening I think. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Slow list

2013-12-03 Thread Craig
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:08:40 -0600 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Actually I was digging up grape vines and pulling (and setting) posts. Never did get to the neutral wire repair on the garage, will do that tomorrow evening I think. Do you have some other source of light so you

Re: [MBZ] '78 240D Block Heater

2013-12-03 Thread Larry T
Hi Gang, I guess I wanted the block heater to help start the car so I could avoid a proper fix. i broke down and replaced all 4 GPs ; (I had a new set on the shelf in the garage - duh) Normally the Richmond Va area doesn't get so cold to need a pre-heater (teens is about as bad as it

Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?

2013-12-03 Thread OK Don
So, move the control the temperature at the top of the windshield where the sensed air intake is to the drivers foot well. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I am constantly running into situations where my feet are cold, but because of New Mexico's abundant

Re: [MBZ] Slow list

2013-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff
I was busy dealing with some server issues at work, interviewing with the County for an IT security position they have open (I'm not real confident that they'll choose me) and taking the final written exam in my Cisco routing protocols class, of which I got a 96/100. And now that I'm home at

[MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
I no longer want to put any time / effort / money into my 240 D. I'm thinking about getting a Hyundai Elantra to drive on my daily 85 mile round trip commute. Very anal and analytical men at work who have bought one love it. Someone please talk me off the ledge. Bob R

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread dseretakis
Please don't get me started!:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I no longer want to put any time / effort / money into my 240 D. I'm thinking about getting a Hyundai Elantra to drive on my daily 85 mile round trip commute. Very anal and

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh geez Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I no longer want to put any time / effort / money into my 240 D. I'm thinking about getting a Hyundai Elantra to drive on my daily 85 mile round trip commute. Very anal and analytical men at work

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread dseretakis
So buy a Jetta TDI. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I no longer want to put any time / effort / money into my 240 D. I'm thinking about getting a Hyundai Elantra to drive on my daily 85 mile round trip commute. Very anal and analytical

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread OK Don
Well, since you asked, two points come to mind immediatly: 1) the Eleantra is NOT a Diesel. 2) the Elantra is NOT a Mercedes. (from the guy who replaced his MBs with a VW and Ford - but at least one is a Diesel, and both were assembled in the US). On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] Slow list

2013-12-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Either those old MB's are running well, or As is the Frankenheap, which entered rotation again yesterday. Aired the tires, plugged in the preheater system, and started it and drove to work. No problemo. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Testing Glow Plugs

2013-12-03 Thread Jim Cathey
I was thinking that was the total amperage draw on 5 GPs, in which case the resistance would be 5x higher on each plug. No, the initial amperage is quite high. If the fuse were instant reacting it'd probably blow every time. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?

2013-12-03 Thread Jim Cathey
So, if we suspect a bad glow plug and want to use the alligator clip method suggested above, is there an easy quick way to determine which glow plug has gone bad? The one with 12V across its two terminals. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?

2013-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
In Portland, ME for awhile they had cool clamshell things you could park your bicycle in during inclement weather. This would have been back in the mid-'90s. Would be just the trick... Or just coat the whole bike with WD-40 a couple times a year. I coated my first 10 speed (a super cheap KMart

Re: [MBZ] '78 240D Block Heater

2013-12-03 Thread Mountain Man
LarryT wrote: ...And it started _/instantly/_. Eh... Why wait for a big Wilton attaboy. Attaboy!!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Mountain Man
Bob R wrote: I'm thinking about getting a Hyundai Elantra to drive on my daily 85 mile round trip commute. Our very anal and analytical parts guy drives asian. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: ... (from the guy who replaced his MBs with a VW and Ford - but at least one is a Diesel, and both were assembled in the US). The crew car at APA yesterday was a newer BMW diesel. My son said it was very fast. At stop light, it turns off. When light turns green, press the go

[MBZ] Bummer

2013-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Here are the links to the flaming W109 I tried posting last week under the Crappy way to start your day thread: Initial realization your car is going up in flames: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tv4wb8u883gjwvk/image-1.jpeg Aftermath before you commit hari-kari:

Re: [MBZ] '78 240D Block Heater

2013-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
10 years ago when I started driving a diesel full time (actually it was 10 years ago next month) we had one of the coldest winters ever around these parts, it hit -20F something like 5 mornings in a row which is unheard of. After the second morning I had to roust Angie to drive the Dakota to

[MBZ] Fw: Slow list 6a6unamu

2013-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
This mail server seems remarkably stupid in how it figures out what is spam... - Forwarded Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slow list We've had an early freeze here,

Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?

2013-12-03 Thread Mountain Man
Gary wrote: i think my next going shopping bicycle will be built out of aluminum I am famous. Here is a bicycle builder with my name: www.bgcycles.com That is my Dad's name. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Do they still use Microsoft Sync? That should be enough to put you off right there. The nicest I can say is its more fun than a Corolla but thats it. I had one as a rental and the Sync system which on that car controlled the radio only would crash and the car would have to be restarted to

Re: [MBZ] Slow list - compost

2013-12-03 Thread Mountain Man
Curt wrote: We've had an early freeze here, ground is hard frozen a good 4 inches down. The center of the compost pile still steams when I open it to make an addition though. Not so much here in ChiTown. Walks in the Forest Preserve is much mud and wet leaves to slip on. Beautiful warm day

Re: [MBZ] Slow list - compost

2013-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Probably not. You're most likely doing single stream recycling now. Everything goes, the waste collectors sort and recycle. We just started it a few months ago along with automated collection. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 3, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Curt

Re: [MBZ] Slow list

2013-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick
If we get started around 4 it will be light enough, I think. Cable from the house to the garage was hung improperly some decades ago, and when a dead elm tree fell and snagged the wire this summer, it cut the rest of the way through the neutral wire. Hence lightening down the side of the

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick
And they drive like log wagons. Can you say 2 degrees of caster? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Nothing at all wrong with an Elantra so long as you lease it and get rid of it at the end of the lease. They are NOT 400,000 mile cars -- all the plastic in the interior will fail after about 5 years, they look like crap and nothing works. Just like a Toyota/Lexus. Peter

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
Okay, okay. Even my wife is talking me out of it. She simply said, this is so not you. My youngest daughter said, who are you and what have you done with my father? Curt and Peter are exactly right. Shipping a seat would be wicked expensive, no? Bob R Back to his senses On Dec 3, 2013 6:59 PM,

[MBZ] Climate control systems [Re: What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?]

2013-12-03 Thread Craig
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 19:11:52 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: So, move the control the temperature at the top of the windshield where the sensed air intake is to the drivers foot well. Actually, with the way a W124 system works, that won't work (besides having to re-route the sampling

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
korean is the way to go. very sensible. ergonomics for fat american asses (not applying to you, but to many) the koreans keep it all in country and operate out of a standard parts bin. the euros love the chinese parts more and more every day they won't handle any worse than a w123 either, but

Re: [MBZ] '78 240D Block Heater

2013-12-03 Thread WILTON
Yep; ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '78 240D Block Heater LarryT wrote: ...And it started _/instantly/_. Eh... Why wait

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
this is more like it: http://www.mercedesbenzofchandler.com/detail-2009-mercedes~benz-clk~class-clk350_2dr_cabriolet_3_5l-used-11331191.html I will look at that tomorrow. Anyone with experience with these? Bob R On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: korean

Re: [MBZ] Going Asian

2013-12-03 Thread clay
It seems the build quality has gone up in the recent past. They are by no means a Mercedes, but will hold together for about five years before cascading failures begin. SWMBA has an '09 korean car. She is thinking of losing it in the next few months. clay On Dec 3, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Bob

Re: [MBZ] Climate control systems [Re: What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?]

2013-12-03 Thread OK Don
Yup - I thought of that about 5 minutes after I hit send --- Maybe you need to get that new job and move? :-) On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 19:11:52 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: So, move the control the temperature at the top

Re: [MBZ] Climate control systems [Re: What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?]

2013-12-03 Thread Craig
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 23:23:36 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: The problem is having cold feet while baking up top. The solution is putting warm air in at the feet and cold air up top. W115 systems do that wonderfully.

[MBZ] 82 300td travels

2013-12-03 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
Folks since i rebuilt a used lift pump and installed it on my 300td all of my fuel supply problems have gone away. I drove about 250 miles from athens to tybee island for thanksgiving. Yesterday i drove from tybee to palm beach about 70 mph all the way dragging a near empty