Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, South IN, near Louisville, is hillbilly country.  N IN, where Rick 
is and where you plan to go is midwest normal.  Except where you will be 
going, you'll have to get used to horses and buggies, and Amish 
bakery  But that is Midwest normal in many places.


And yes, I learned the term FIB from Dan the cheesehead. It is appropriate.


Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 11:23 PM
Craig asks:


So Indiana is a hill billy state?


I think so. Hillbilly as in mostly rural, with
independant, hard working, good natured,
and friendly folks. The people our current
POTUS referred to once as "clinging to guns
and religion." Other elites would probably
call it "fly-over country".


What hill billy ways do I have to learn?


None really. I was being facetious. I live in
Indiana, but work (and pay income taxes)
in Illinois, and I am always up for a good
natured ribbing about being a Hoosier Hillbilly.
Most of the time it is self induced, especially
when one of my co-workers starts complaining
about property taxes. I usually explain to them
about my lower tax bill, but chide my self and state
because I also have no running water, indoor
plumbing, or garbage service (although I really do).

Most native
Illinois-ians from the Chicago-land area, are
very arrogant a-holes. We Hoosiers (and Wisconsin Cheeseheads, and
probably Iowans, and Michiganites) refer to them as
FIB's

F-ing Illinois B@st@rds.


Rick
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Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 7:50 PM

Nope.
Not when it all leaks out every year.

If you are going to move to a hilly billy state (Indiana),
you will have to learn hill billy ways...

Rick
Who IS being facetious, but does mow the grass
to find a car on occasion.
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Craig via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 7:31 PM
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 00:26:19 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes

That's if he recharges completely every year. But he has a freon
recycling machine. Should that not reduce his consumption?


Craig

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Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 7:26 PM

Well, if you figure 10 cars, averaging 3 lb. per charge,
right around 16 years, assuming a fresh charge on every
car, every year. Considering the fact that he is young (41?),
and has another 40+ years of tinkering (ask Gerry), he needs
another 24 tanks.

And I sometimes wonder why I am a hoarder

Rick

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Craig via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 6:45 PM
On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:08:11 -0500 "Kaleb Striplin, Okieben via Mercedes"

480 lb! How long will that last you?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Craig asks:

>So Indiana is a hill billy state?

I think so. Hillbilly as in mostly rural, with
independant, hard working, good natured,
and friendly folks. The people our current
POTUS referred to once as "clinging to guns 
and religion." Other elites would probably 
call it "fly-over country". 

>What hill billy ways do I have to learn?

None really. I was being facetious. I live in 
Indiana, but work (and pay income taxes)
in Illinois, and I am always up for a good 
natured ribbing about being a Hoosier Hillbilly.
Most of the time it is self induced, especially
when one of my co-workers starts complaining 
about property taxes. I usually explain to them
about my lower tax bill, but chide my self and state
because I also have no running water, indoor 
plumbing, or garbage service (although I really do). 

Most native 
Illinois-ians from the Chicago-land area, are
very arrogant a-holes. We Hoosiers (and Wisconsin Cheeseheads, and 
probably Iowans, and Michiganites) refer to them as
FIB's

F-ing Illinois B@st@rds. 


Rick
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[MBZ] New Univ. atmosphere Wuz: More for Wilton's niece

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Things have changed a lot in the last 8 yrs.   At the state u, a prof 
was fired, tarred and feathered, and rode out of town on a rail.  His 
crime?  On his own time, off campus, having an opinion that Darwinism 
may be a flawed theroy.   On campus, he toed the party line and did not 
dispute darwinism.


Same place that protected a prof for having clinton parties in his hot 
tub, same place that protected a prof who made female grad students 
sleep with him on trips to yurp.  Same place that protected the dept 
chair who plagiarized foreign grad students and got him a job as a 
deanie weenie, promotion.


Same goobermnt who imprisons a citizen for trying to send a couple of 
bennies to the re lig ioon of piece, but whose commander launders money 
and then sends 400 million of our bucks to the same re lig ioon.  Both 
of those actions are illegal in this country.


The crooks walk and laugh at us.  As the h->itch sez: "there is a 
different set of laws fer me!"

Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 10:34 PM
Well I have to respectfully disagree. I have been on 6 campuses for 40
years-now retired- and never have seen the car a faculty member drives be
an issue. Tenure is far more complicated & abstract than that. She should
go for the best MB she can afford & honor her uncles tradition.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI


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Re: [MBZ] More for Wilton's niece

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well I have to respectfully  disagree. I have been on  6 campuses for 40
years-now retired-  and never have seen the car a faculty member drives be
an issue. Tenure is far more complicated & abstract than that. She should
go for the best MB she can afford  & honor her uncles  tradition.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 5, 2016 11:02 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Whoa whoa whoa!  Curly what are you thinking?  Niece is a "College
> Professor".  She could lose her tenure, show up on campus in a nice big
> Mercedes.
>
> She's already pushing the limit, way outside the Subaru / Toyota / Honda
> fold.  An old C class is really taking a lot of risk, I don't think we have
> any business recommending anything more than C class.
>
> The more she pays for the car, the more she can complain about the big
> mistake it was, and the tongue-wagging libs can sympathize and lecture
> about returning to the jap car fold next time.  She can nod along, "What
> was I thinking?", and drive the c-class for a few years.
>
> I think she needs to get that expensive old one that Wilton posted.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On August 5, 2016 9:33:38 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >http://iowacity.craigslist.org/cto/5715113605.html   Much newer, nicer
> >car for less $
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] More for Wilton's niece

[WILTON via Mercedes]

BTW, she has BS from UNC-CH; MS & Ph.D from Purdue.

Wilton

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It is iowa city,  home of the most PhDs pumping gas (or checking 
walmartians out) in the world.   They walk or ride cambus there between 
home, the farmers market, New Pioneer, and campus.  The car will sit until 
she needs to drive to CR for a H-> (ride to hell) rally.   So not many 
faculties will see the car.


The undergrads, for the most part, get degrees in basketweaving (gender 
studies, minority studies, etc)  and then work for the goobermnt, become 
"teachers" or faculty, or minimum wage communist party "workers." (drones)



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 10:02 PM
Whoa whoa whoa! Curly what are you thinking? Niece is a "College 
Professor". She could lose her tenure, show up on campus in a nice big 
Mercedes.


She's already pushing the limit, way outside the Subaru / Toyota / Honda 
fold. An old C class is really taking a lot of risk, I don't think we 
have any business recommending anything more than C class.


The more she pays for the car, the more she can complain about the big 
mistake it was, and the tongue-wagging libs can sympathize and lecture 
about returning to the jap car fold next time. She can nod along, "What 
was I thinking?", and drive the c-class for a few years.


I think she needs to get that expensive old one that Wilton posted.


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Re: [MBZ] More for Wilton's niece

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I saw it had a salvage title, but that may or may not be anything 
serious.  If the airbag went off, it would be a salvage title, or if the 
electronic toys fried, it would be salvage, but no accident damage.  
Could be hail too.  I figgered it was worth checking out.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 10:06 PM



that one had me interested until I saw it was salvaged

Curley McLain 
August 5, 2016 at 8:33 PM
http://iowacity.craigslist.org/cto/5715113605.html   Much newer, nicer 
car for less $




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Re: [MBZ] More for Wilton's niece

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is iowa city,  home of the most PhDs pumping gas (or checking 
walmartians out) in the world.   They walk or ride cambus there between 
home, the farmers market, New Pioneer, and campus.  The car will sit 
until she needs to drive to CR for a H-> (ride to hell) rally.   So not 
many faculties will see the car.


The undergrads, for the most part, get degrees in basketweaving (gender 
studies, minority studies, etc)  and then work for the goobermnt, become 
"teachers" or faculty, or minimum wage communist party "workers." (drones)



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 10:02 PM
Whoa whoa whoa! Curly what are you thinking? Niece is a "College 
Professor". She could lose her tenure, show up on campus in a nice big 
Mercedes.


She's already pushing the limit, way outside the Subaru / Toyota / 
Honda fold. An old C class is really taking a lot of risk, I don't 
think we have any business recommending anything more than C class.


The more she pays for the car, the more she can complain about the big 
mistake it was, and the tongue-wagging libs can sympathize and lecture 
about returning to the jap car fold next time. She can nod along, 
"What was I thinking?", and drive the c-class for a few years.


I think she needs to get that expensive old one that Wilton posted.


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Re: [MBZ] More for Wilton's niece

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On August 5, 2016 at 9:33 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:http://iowacity.craigslist.org/cto/5715113605.html Much newer, nicer car for less $that one had me interested until I saw it was salvaged
 

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Re: [MBZ] More for Wilton's niece

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Whoa whoa whoa!  Curly what are you thinking?  Niece is a "College Professor".  
She could lose her tenure, show up on campus in a nice big Mercedes.

She's already pushing the limit, way outside the Subaru / Toyota / Honda fold.  
An old C class is really taking a lot of risk, I don't think we have any 
business recommending anything more than C class.

The more she pays for the car, the more she can complain about the big mistake 
it was, and the tongue-wagging libs can sympathize and lecture about returning 
to the jap car fold next time.  She can nod along, "What was I thinking?", and 
drive the c-class for a few years.

I think she needs to get that expensive old one that Wilton posted.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 5, 2016 9:33:38 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>http://iowacity.craigslist.org/cto/5715113605.html   Much newer, nicer 
>car for less $
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

However, he will move on to the next big thing (models of MBs) and will
crush all those R134a cars - then what will he do with all that hoarded
Freon? eBay I guess . . .

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ok well that tells me what I need, I will keep on hoarding.
>

-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Hope they are stored in a well ventilated area(s).  A leak in a closed space 
would be deadly.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 00:50:09 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> If you are going to move to a hilly billy state (Indiana),
> you will have to learn hill billy ways...

So Indiana is a hill billy state?

What hill billy ways do I have to learn?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 111 chassis parts/restore 220Sb

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I like it.  Max should put Wilton's dizzel engine and drivetrain and 
interior in it and have a screamer.


--R


On 8/5/16 9:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

http://quadcities.craigslist.org/cto/5711280955.html

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[MBZ] More for Wilton's niece

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

http://iowacity.craigslist.org/cto/5715113605.html   Much newer, nicer 
car for less $


http://iowacity.craigslist.org/ctd/5714825778.html

http://iowacity.craigslist.org/ctd/5714813119.html

http://iowacity.craigslist.org/cto/5681280232.html

http://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/cto/5708735018.html

http://quadcities.craigslist.org/cto/5691730609.html

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/5697919442.html

http://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/ctd/5705980089.html

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/5705157177.html




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[MBZ] 111 chassis parts/restore 220Sb

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

http://quadcities.craigslist.org/cto/5711280955.html

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

12 cars, 1 lb each for 40 years.

Or 6 cars, 1 lb each per year for 80 years.

It'll probably last him 50 years or more, because he will prob'ly buy more


Craig via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 6:45 PM
On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:08:11 -0500 "Kaleb Striplin, Okieben via Mercedes"

480 lb! How long will that last you?


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT Ginger Brew

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Just to inform this informed group, I am on my second Dark n Stormy (the 
ginger brew and Goslings Black Seal rum).  It is really good. I opened 
another liter bottle of the brew and used that for the first one, it was 
a bit puckery so I made some simple syrup and added that to the bevvie, 
then some to the bottle to top off what I had used for the bevvie.  It 
has some nice fizz, not too much, sorta like your average sody pop.  The 
added sugar syrup will increase the fizz in the bottle by next weekend 
when I have another one or two.


--FT

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I always fix leaks in the system, I don't like leaks.

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> On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Craig again inquires..:
> 
>> 
>> That's if he recharges completely every year. But he has a freon
>> recycling machine. Should that not reduce his consumption?
> 
> Nope.
> Not when it all leaks out every year.
> 
> If you are going to move to a hilly billy state (Indiana),
> you will have to learn hill billy ways...
> 
> Rick
> Who IS being facetious, but does mow the grass 
> to find a car on occasion.
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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well in the last 2 years (or more) I am just now getting ready to use up the 
last of my 1st 30lb tank.

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> On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 00:26:19 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Craig inquires:
>> 
>>> 480 lb! How long will that last you?
>> 
>> Well, if you figure 10 cars, averaging 3 lb. per charge,
>> right around 16 years, assuming a fresh charge on every
>> car, every year. Considering the fact that he is young (41?),
>> and has another 40+ years of tinkering (ask Gerry), he needs
>> another 24 tanks.
> 
> That's if he recharges completely every year. But he has a freon
> recycling machine. Should that not reduce his consumption?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Ok well that tells me what I need, I will keep on hoarding. 

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> On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:26 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Craig inquires:
> 
>> 480 lb! How long will that last you?
> 
> Well, if you figure 10 cars, averaging 3 lb. per charge,
> right around 16 years, assuming a fresh charge on every
> car, every year. Considering the fact that he is young (41?),
> and has another 40+ years of tinkering (ask Gerry), he needs
> another 24 tanks. 
> 
> And I sometimes wonder why I am a hoarder
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Hopefully till I die

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> On Aug 5, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:08:11 -0500 "Kaleb Striplin, Okieben via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> I buy the 30lb tanks when they go on sale at the farm store. I bought 4
>> more today which brings my total stockpile up to 16 30lb tanks.
> 
> 480 lb! How long will that last you?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - or not - average depreciation of vehicles by color

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Isn't this discrimination against Vehicles of Color that promotes 
vehicular economic inequality?  Should we as a worldwide(web) group 
advocate against this crime against vehicles?  Does anyone have inroads 
to the presidential campaigns?  Andrew, Andrew anyone?


And whatever Mao said...

--R


On 8/5/16 5:07 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

Since (1) the Supremes have the final veto on laws, and (2) they can invent
laws from thin air, and (3) they continue to rule until they fall off their
perch; I'd say Supreme Court nominations trump nearly all other
considerations.


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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:04 PM
To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List

Cc: Mountain Man 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - or not - average depreciation of vehicles by color

Curt wrote:

I think people ought to worry about enjoying their cars more and forget

about resale value...

This mind seems the same as - vote D or H for purpose of supreme court
appointments.
Is this presidential vote or supreme court vote?  Elect Fido.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Craig again inquires..:

>
>That's if he recharges completely every year. But he has a freon
>recycling machine. Should that not reduce his consumption?

Nope.
Not when it all leaks out every year.

If you are going to move to a hilly billy state (Indiana),
you will have to learn hill billy ways...

Rick
Who IS being facetious, but does mow the grass 
to find a car on occasion.
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Re: [MBZ] '02 C320

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's Kleb territory.  Show up with 5 Bennies and haul it off.

--R


On 8/5/16 5:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
This plus a $1000 for tow/front end parts/alignment might make a 
better car than the cheap 320.  She'd still have a $6000 or $7000 
budget left over for ongoing maintenance.   Think of it as a DIY 
bumper to bumper warranty.


http://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/cto/5699277795.html

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 00:26:19 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Craig inquires:
> 
> >480 lb! How long will that last you?
> 
> Well, if you figure 10 cars, averaging 3 lb. per charge,
> right around 16 years, assuming a fresh charge on every
> car, every year. Considering the fact that he is young (41?),
> and has another 40+ years of tinkering (ask Gerry), he needs
> another 24 tanks. 

That's if he recharges completely every year. But he has a freon
recycling machine. Should that not reduce his consumption?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Craig inquires:

>480 lb! How long will that last you?

Well, if you figure 10 cars, averaging 3 lb. per charge,
right around 16 years, assuming a fresh charge on every
car, every year. Considering the fact that he is young (41?),
and has another 40+ years of tinkering (ask Gerry), he needs
another 24 tanks. 

And I sometimes wonder why I am a hoarder

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

We'll have an Okie134huffingQ next year

--FT


On 8/5/16 7:45 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:08:11 -0500 "Kaleb Striplin, Okieben via Mercedes"
 wrote:


I buy the 30lb tanks when they go on sale at the farm store. I bought 4
more today which brings my total stockpile up to 16 30lb tanks.

480 lb! How long will that last you?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:08:11 -0500 "Kaleb Striplin, Okieben via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I buy the 30lb tanks when they go on sale at the farm store. I bought 4
> more today which brings my total stockpile up to 16 30lb tanks.

480 lb! How long will that last you?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '02 C320

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

More in the IC area for Wilton's niece.
E320s:
http://quadcities.craigslist.org/cto/5707880092.html

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/5701658376.html

http://madison.craigslist.org/ctd/5712656203.html

c320s:
http://iowacity.craigslist.org/ctd/5714720286.html

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/5715520543.html

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ctd/5677585390.html

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/5710493071.html

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/5708027040.html



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Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Thanks Curt. I never had one go before. I will test with 12 volt light but
I donxt think it is making noise. I jiggled,wires etc.. I will get another
one from Fred's Autohaus.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 5, 2016 3:03 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> The pump sits in the washer fluid so it can't really lose prime.
> I've had to replace these a couple times, in each case they just died
> suddenly. Fortunately they're pretty easy to get at. Do you have a trouble
> light? If not they're cheap at FLAPS. If the motor isn't running unplug the
> motor, plug in the trouble light and be sure the light comes on when you
> call for the pump. If it does you've probably got a dead pump.
> FLAPS will only have a generic replacement which will require that you cut
> your harness to install it. I bought a "real" one from Rusty years ago. I
> imagine today you'd want to try Rock Auto.
> -Curt
>
>   From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Dwight Giles 
>  Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 2:07 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem
>
> I didn't  think it was running  but I will check again. There is no losing
> prime issue with this pump?
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
>
> On Aug 5, 2016 11:57 AM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Can you hear the motor going with the hood open and the engine shut down?
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > No not me- my 300D 2.5t. I ran the washer bottle empty  &  now after
> > > refilling. It won't  pump. I checked fuse. Did I burn out the motor?
> > > THX.
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[MBZ] Can you ever have too much r134 stockpiled?

[Kaleb Striplin, Okieben via Mercedes]

I buy the 30lb tanks when they go on sale at the farm store. I bought 4 more 
today which brings my total stockpile up to 16 30lb tanks. I just don't want to 
get caught in a r12 type mess one of these days.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT - or not - average depreciation of vehicles by color

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Since (1) the Supremes have the final veto on laws, and (2) they can invent
laws from thin air, and (3) they continue to rule until they fall off their
perch; I'd say Supreme Court nominations trump nearly all other
considerations.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Mountain Man via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:04 PM
> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List
> 
> Cc: Mountain Man 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - or not - average depreciation of vehicles by color
> 
> Curt wrote:
> > I think people ought to worry about enjoying their cars more and forget
> about resale value...
> 
> This mind seems the same as - vote D or H for purpose of supreme court
> appointments.
> Is this presidential vote or supreme court vote?  Elect Fido.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] '02 C320

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

This plus a $1000 for tow/front end parts/alignment might make a better 
car than the cheap 320.  She'd still have a $6000 or $7000 budget left 
over for ongoing maintenance.   Think of it as a DIY bumper to bumper 
warranty.


http://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/cto/5699277795.html

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Re: [MBZ] '02 C320

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Too old, unless it includes a 12 month bumper to bumper warranty.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:46 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> SWMBO's niece (prof at U of Iowa) asked for our thoughts on an '02 MB C320
> (103 kmi) FS at starmotors.us in Iowa City.
> Asking $9 k.
>
> Too old?  Good year/model, or not?  Questions to ask?
>
> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The pump sits in the washer fluid so it can't really lose prime.
I've had to replace these a couple times, in each case they just died suddenly. 
Fortunately they're pretty easy to get at. Do you have a trouble light? If not 
they're cheap at FLAPS. If the motor isn't running unplug the motor, plug in 
the trouble light and be sure the light comes on when you call for the pump. If 
it does you've probably got a dead pump.
FLAPS will only have a generic replacement which will require that you cut your 
harness to install it. I bought a "real" one from Rusty years ago. I imagine 
today you'd want to try Rock Auto.
-Curt

  From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Dwight Giles 
 Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 2:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem
   
I didn't  think it was running  but I will check again. There is no losing
prime issue with this pump?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 5, 2016 11:57 AM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Can you hear the motor going with the hood open and the engine shut down?
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > No not me- my 300D 2.5t. I ran the washer bottle empty  &  now after
> > refilling. It won't  pump. I checked fuse. Did I burn out the motor?
> > THX.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > 1982 300CD
> > 1990 300D
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Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Not sure if it is worth going to the knackers on this one. 16.99 from
Eckler's

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 5, 2016 2:27 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> No   CHeck to see if it is getting 12V (and a ground) when you have the
> switch on.   If you have 12 V  and a good ground, the motor/pump is kaput.
> TIme fer the knackers...
>
> Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>> August 5, 2016 at 1:07 PM
>> I didn't think it was running but I will check again. There is no losing
>> prime issue with this pump?
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> 1982 300CD
>> 1990 300D
>> Wickford RI
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2016 11:57 AM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
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>> August 5, 2016 at 10:57 AM
>> Can you hear the motor going with the hood open and the engine shut down?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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>> August 5, 2016 at 10:53 AM
>> No not me- my 300D 2.5t. I ran the washer bottle empty & now after
>> refilling. It won't pump. I checked fuse. Did I burn out the motor?
>> THX.
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> 1982 300CD
>> 1990 300D
>> Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes that's right-on the bottom.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 5, 2016 2:26 PM, "Craig via Mercedes"  wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 14:07:22 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I didn't  think it was running  but I will check again. There is no
> > losing prime issue with this pump?
>
> Usually the pumps are at the bottom of the fluid reservoir, so there is
> always a head pushing the fluid into the pump.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No   CHeck to see if it is getting 12V (and a ground) when you have the 
switch on.   If you have 12 V  and a good ground, the motor/pump is 
kaput.  TIme fer the knackers...



Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 1:07 PM
I didn't think it was running but I will check again. There is no losing
prime issue with this pump?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 5, 2016 11:57 AM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
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August 5, 2016 at 10:57 AM
Can you hear the motor going with the hood open and the engine shut down?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
August 5, 2016 at 10:53 AM
No not me- my 300D 2.5t. I ran the washer bottle empty & now after
refilling. It won't pump. I checked fuse. Did I burn out the motor?
THX.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 14:07:22 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I didn't  think it was running  but I will check again. There is no
> losing prime issue with this pump?

Usually the pumps are at the bottom of the fluid reservoir, so there is
always a head pushing the fluid into the pump.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] R320 CDI

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems a bit expensive but I really have no clue.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:50 AM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Identical to  the one #2 son had - the one he drove for 275 k, or so.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
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> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:21 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] R320 CDI
>
>
>
> Somewhat unusual
>>
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5707278960.html
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Re: [MBZ] ?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We received 4.5" in two days late last week.  Otherwise, July had been
pretty dry.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Much (most?) of New England is. We had 4 days of rain from Saturday to
> Monday but we're still down like 12" on precipitation. I mowed the weeds
> this morning so the dew would keep the dust down. Set the mowing deck high
> to just keep it from looking scruffy.
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:26 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] ?
>
> I read that Mass. is under an uncharacteristic drought now.  Is that
> correct?
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Craig via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 00:50:35 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Craig.
> > >
> > > 'Ello, 'ello, 'ello, what 'ave we 'ere then?
> >
> > Well, here we have monsoon season. I'm not sure about Massachusetts.
> >
> > But you are right, the others are uncharacteristically quiet.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Rare Million Mile Luxury!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

As exciting as Wonder Bread with cream cheese.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5672742003.html
>>
>>
>>
> A pre-96 W140 has leprosy and the owner has no idea how many miles are on
> it, so he only wants $5k for it? Crack Pipe!
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Price or Crack Pipe SL500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I don't buy the notion that this will go up in value toward the original
list price.  This is a no-design car, or in simpler words, BOOORRING.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>> http://jalopnik.com/for-10-950-could-you-top-this-1999-merce
>> des-benz-sl50-1784817438
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> Talk them down to $9k and give it to Alice Stirckland's niece.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I didn't  think it was running  but I will check again. There is no losing
prime issue with this pump?

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1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 5, 2016 11:57 AM, "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
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> Can you hear the motor going with the hood open and the engine shut down?
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> > No not me- my 300D 2.5t. I ran the washer bottle empty  &  now after
> > refilling. It won't  pump. I checked fuse. Did I burn out the motor?
> > THX.
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> > 1982 300CD
> > 1990 300D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - or not - average depreciation of vehicles by color

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curt wrote:
> I think people ought to worry about enjoying their cars more and forget about 
> resale value...

This mind seems the same as - vote D or H for purpose of supreme court
appointments.
Is this presidential vote or supreme court vote?  Elect Fido.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Piddler problem

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Can you hear the motor going with the hood open and the engine shut down?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No not me- my 300D 2.5t. I ran the washer bottle empty  &  now after
> refilling. It won't  pump. I checked fuse. Did I burn out the motor?
> THX.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
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[MBZ] Piddler problem

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

No not me- my 300D 2.5t. I ran the washer bottle empty  &  now after
refilling. It won't  pump. I checked fuse. Did I burn out the motor?
THX.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] R320 CDI

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Identical to  the one #2 son had - the one he drove for 275 k, or so.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 

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Subject: [MBZ] R320 CDI



Somewhat unusual

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5707278960.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT - or not - average depreciation of vehicles by color

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

When we bought our silver Dodge pickup the dealer told me that the easiest 
truck to sell was white. Said people wanted basic colors so they would hold 
resale value.
I think people ought to worry about enjoying their cars more and forget about 
resale value...
-Curt

  From: OK Don via Mercedes 
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Cc: OK Don 
 Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:00 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT - or not - average depreciation of vehicles by color
   
Apparently orange, yellow, and green cars depreciate less than other colors.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/want-a-car-with-the-best-resale-value-pick-one-of-these-colors/ar-BBvgyRd?li=BBnbfcN

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"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] ?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Much (most?) of New England is. We had 4 days of rain from Saturday to Monday 
but we're still down like 12" on precipitation. I mowed the weeds this morning 
so the dew would keep the dust down. Set the mowing deck high to just keep it 
from looking scruffy.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ?
   
I read that Mass. is under an uncharacteristic drought now.  Is that
correct?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 00:50:35 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
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> > Craig.
> >
> > 'Ello, 'ello, 'ello, what 'ave we 'ere then?
>
> Well, here we have monsoon season. I'm not sure about Massachusetts.
>
> But you are right, the others are uncharacteristically quiet.
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[MBZ] 190E Mercedes Benz AC Radio/CD PLayer First Aide Kit in the back (Unused) AC/Dehumidifier (Uses R134 A Refrigerant)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

When you buy a used car one of the most difficult things to find is a 
car that fits your budget and that is reliable at the same time.


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5714717648.html


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[MBZ] Rare Million Mile Luxury!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5672742003.html


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[MBZ] What could go wrong

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/5714912396.html


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Re: [MBZ] Rare Million Mile Luxury!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5672742003.html




A pre-96 W140 has leprosy and the owner has no idea how many miles are on it, so 
he only wants $5k for it? Crack Pipe!


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[MBZ] R320 CDI

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Somewhat unusual

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5707278960.html


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Re: [MBZ] Nice Price or Crack Pipe SL500

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:


http://jalopnik.com/for-10-950-could-you-top-this-1999-mercedes-benz-sl50-1784817438 


Talk them down to $9k and give it to Alice Stirckland's niece.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - or not - average depreciation of vehicles by color

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Apparently orange, yellow, and green cars depreciate less than other colors.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/want-a-car-with-the-best-resale-value-pick-one-of-these-colors/ar-BBvgyRd?li=BBnbfcN



I would assume the buyer pool for yellow and orange would be rather limited.
Perhaps there are even fewer people willing to buy a new yellow or orange car 
than a used one, so they're scarce on the used market, like manual transmissions.


When dad wrecked my mom's car this spring and we were shopping for a 
replacement, I asked her about color choices and she said 'anything but yellow'.
I suggested she add black to that list. I'm sure she would have also excluded 
orange if she thought it possible to find one.


As for green, you don't see many on the road (I'm not counting the screaming 
chartreuse Ford subcompacts I see on a weekly basis), and this list frequently 
drools over old green MBZs. Dark green W140s are popular among us, and when I 
bought mine last year, one out of 230 W/C140s on autotrader was green.


Mitch

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[MBZ] Nice Price or Crack Pipe SL500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

http://jalopnik.com/for-10-950-could-you-top-this-1999-mercedes-benz-sl50-1784817438 



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Re: [MBZ] '02 C320

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

I think she could buy an E320  in the 00 to 07 range for $1500 to $4500, 
if she is willing to travel a bit to get the car.


Seems like somebody (Roger RIP? Jaime?) was not a fan of 2003-2006 W211s.
$4-5k, maybe 6-7k at a franchise dealer, should get you a 2002 W210.

If you must have a small car, $9k for a 2002 should get you an SLK with 50kmi on 
it, I should think.

Here's an example from Poosville:
http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/ctd/5717408635.html
And one in Queens with similar miles to the Iowa c320:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/cto/5699435634.html
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '02 C320

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Seems like too much money for a 14 year old car. I have seen e320s 
for less money.


The stealer in IC is Carousel Motors.  I never heard of this one.   
Carousel, at least, supported the MBCA section.   This starmotors.us is 
just a used car stealer.   Carousel has an 07 for 12K.  That seems like 
a better deal, but still high priced.  Star is just south of campus, so 
that is high rent.


I think she could buy an E320  in the 00 to 07 range for $1500 to $4500, 
if she is willing to travel a bit to get the car.



WILTON via Mercedes 
August 4, 2016 at 9:46 PM
SWMBO's niece (prof at U of Iowa) asked for our thoughts on an '02 MB 
C320 (103 kmi) FS at starmotors.us in Iowa City.

Asking $9 k.

Too old? Good year/model, or not? Questions to ask?

Wilton


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