Re: [MBZ] Oh boy

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Not 500

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 11:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1263515294441463/
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 116 fuel tank cleaning

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 22:05:43 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I am just wondering what keeps them from rusting with normal use?  I
> guess maybe it gets fresh fuel circulated thru it often enough that it
> leaves a coating on the bare metal keeping it from rusting.

I think that is indeed the case, particularly for a tank filled with
diesel.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It was a curt adapter I believe.

On 10/24/2022 10:08 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Should not be that easy to plug it in wrong. Or was this some chinese bargain 
amazonian lighting controller?

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, at 18:14, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside
down which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on
the trailer.  It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the
trailer.  In looking at the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the
adapter and I can't even unplug it.

I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I
was explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back
to being my fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn
lights came back on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I
started pulling them and replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights
were back to working like they should.  The module slides into a bracket
which them bolts to the frame.  I was going to leave it loose to make
sure it actually continued to work, but then decided to go ahead and
mount it as it was working fine.  As soon as I started messing with it,
the lights came back on and I could not get them back off.  I looked at
the individual wires coming directly out of the connector on the truck
and none appeared to be melted.  I guess I will have to take a closer
look as there has to be something melted within the harness.  I hope it
did not screw up the new module, or possibly the old module was not
really bad.

On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the trailer 
wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like the brake like 
module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at the flaps.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible for. If 
she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those too.


On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control module that 
may have gotten fried.  This is great.


On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to take the 
truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her show. When she went to 
leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer and plugged it in.  She says a few 
minutes later she notices smoke coming from the wiring harness at the trailer.  
Somebody taped it up with duct tape but now she reports right turn signal not 
working. She gets home and of course I have to back in the trailer.  I 
immediately notice an odd scrapping sound coming from the steering wheel that 
has never been there before.  After backing the truck in I unhook the trailer 
and of course the ground wire is now bare all the way to the frame of the 
trailer. I can tell much else with mess of duct tape but it somehow managed to 
short at some point in the harness.  The wiring where it starts going into the 
channels back to the lights look fine so the short must be closer to the 
connector. Regardless I am sure I will have to replace the end of the harness. 
I was finished messing with it for the moment when I noticed as I was coming in 
the house that the brake lights are on even with the truck turned off.  WTF?  I 
pull the fuse and the rears go out, but the top mount one by the cab stays on.  
I cant find a fuse that will shut it off.  I got under the dash and unplugged 
the brake lite switch and they still stay on.  I am not sure if this 2002 is 
new enough to have the lights controlled by a computer, or if this trailer 
situation shorted out something in the truck.  What I find odd is the truck has 
fuses for the trailer lights, why didnt it blow?  I sure hope I do not have a 
major wiring problem now.  It is unbelievable how this stuff happens seemingly 
without fail when she drives a vehicle.  She has another show next weekend.  
Now that the truck is down, there are no tow vehicles left to tow her trailer 
assuming I have time to fix the wiring on it.  I guess if she wants to go to 
this show bad enough, she can rent a vehicle of some sort.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___

[MBZ] Oh boy

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1263515294441463/


Sent from my iPhone

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Should not be that easy to plug it in wrong. Or was this some chinese bargain 
amazonian lighting controller?

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, at 18:14, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside 
> down which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on 
> the trailer.  It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the 
> trailer.  In looking at the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the 
> adapter and I can't even unplug it.
>
> I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I 
> was explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back 
> to being my fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn 
> lights came back on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I 
> started pulling them and replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights 
> were back to working like they should.  The module slides into a bracket 
> which them bolts to the frame.  I was going to leave it loose to make 
> sure it actually continued to work, but then decided to go ahead and 
> mount it as it was working fine.  As soon as I started messing with it, 
> the lights came back on and I could not get them back off.  I looked at 
> the individual wires coming directly out of the connector on the truck 
> and none appeared to be melted.  I guess I will have to take a closer 
> look as there has to be something melted within the harness.  I hope it 
> did not screw up the new module, or possibly the old module was not 
> really bad.
>
> On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the trailer 
>> wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like the brake 
>> like module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at the flaps.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible for. 
>>> If she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.
>>>
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>
 On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those 
 too.

>> On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control 
>> module that may have gotten fried.  This is great.
>>
>>> On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to take 
>>> the truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her show. When 
>>> she went to leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer and plugged it 
>>> in.  She says a few minutes later she notices smoke coming from the 
>>> wiring harness at the trailer.  Somebody taped it up with duct tape but 
>>> now she reports right turn signal not working. She gets home and of 
>>> course I have to back in the trailer.  I immediately notice an odd 
>>> scrapping sound coming from the steering wheel that has never been 
>>> there before.  After backing the truck in I unhook the trailer and of 
>>> course the ground wire is now bare all the way to the frame of the 
>>> trailer. I can tell much else with mess of duct tape but it somehow 
>>> managed to short at some point in the harness.  The wiring where it 
>>> starts going into the channels back to the lights look fine so the 
>>> short must be closer to the connector. Regardless I am sure I will have 
>>> to replace the end of the harness. I was finished messing with it for 
>>> the moment when I noticed as I was coming in the house that the brake 
>>> lights are on even with the truck turned off.  WTF?  I pull the fuse 
>>> and the rears go out, but the top mount one by the cab stays on.  I 
>>> cant find a fuse that will shut it off.  I got under the dash and 
>>> unplugged the brake lite switch and they still stay on.  I am not sure 
>>> if this 2002 is new enough to have the lights controlled by a computer, 
>>> or if this trailer situation shorted out something in the truck.  What 
>>> I find odd is the truck has fuses for the trailer lights, why didnt it 
>>> blow?  I sure hope I do not have a major wiring problem now.  It is 
>>> unbelievable how this stuff happens seemingly without fail when she 
>>> drives a vehicle.  She has another show next weekend.  Now that the 
>>> truck is down, there are no tow vehicles left to tow her trailer 
>>> assuming I have time to fix the wiring on it.  I guess if she wants to 
>>> go to 

Re: [MBZ] 116 fuel tank cleaning

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea I am just going to seal it, I already ordered a kit.  When these 
tanks are new, or under normal conditions, are they coated with 
something that keeps them from rusting?  Or is it a case once the tank 
does rust and you clean it off, it will then rust again very fast?  I am 
just wondering what keeps them from rusting with normal use?  I guess 
maybe it gets fresh fuel circulated thru it often enough that it leaves 
a coating on the bare metal keeping it from rusting.


On 10/24/2022 10:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 21:30:27 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:


If I do get the tank clean, will it stay clean or does it need to be
sealed?

The bare steel will rust quickly; you need to either put gasoline in it
(I think), or seal it. Probably sealing it would be better.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 116 fuel tank cleaning

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 21:30:27 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> If I do get the tank clean, will it stay clean or does it need to be
> sealed?

The bare steel will rust quickly; you need to either put gasoline in it
(I think), or seal it. Probably sealing it would be better.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] 116 fuel tank cleaning

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have been working on this tank on and off for a while.  I used vinegar 
and got it pretty clean, but I do not think its clean enough yet.  I put 
some drywall screws in there and have been shacking it around on 
occasion and will rinse it out with water again.  It seems like it was 
clean but has since surface rusted again, or so it seems.  Perhaps I 
should just do one of those kits with a 3 part cleaner, rust cleaner, 
then sealer.  I see a POR15 one, as well as one made by KBS.  If I do 
get the tank clean, will it stay clean or does it need to be sealed?


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea, I suspect it’s shorted inside the plug itself. Might not have needed to 
replace that module but will see. If the plug is good I’m just going to have to 
trace it back I guess 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 8:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ugh.
> 
> My brother’s SDL got a short in the trunk light, and we had to run quite a 
> bit of wire to fix the damage.
> 
> Trace back the harness, likely the hot wire melted some insulation all along 
> the way, and you have some shorts in there.
> 
> Peter
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 6:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside down 
>> which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on the 
>> trailer.  It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the trailer.  In 
>> looking at the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the adapter and I 
>> can't even unplug it.
>> 
>> I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I was 
>> explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back to being 
>> my fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn lights came 
>> back on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I started pulling 
>> them and replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights were back to working 
>> like they should.  The module slides into a bracket which them bolts to the 
>> frame.  I was going to leave it loose to make sure it actually continued to 
>> work, but then decided to go ahead and mount it as it was working fine.  As 
>> soon as I started messing with it, the lights came back on and I could not 
>> get them back off.  I looked at the individual wires coming directly out of 
>> the connector on the truck and none appeared to be melted.  I guess I will 
>> have to take a closer look as there has to be something melted within the 
>> harness.  I hope it did not screw up the new module, or possibly the old 
>> module was not really bad.
>> 
>>> On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the trailer 
>>> wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like the brake 
>>> like module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at the flaps.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible for. 
 If she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
> On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those 
> too.
> 
>>> On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control 
>>> module that may have gotten fried.  This is great.
>>> 
 On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to take 
 the truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her show. When 
 she went to leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer and plugged it 
 in.  She says a few minutes later she notices smoke coming from the 
 wiring harness at the trailer.  Somebody taped it up with duct tape 
 but now she reports right turn signal not working. She gets home and 
 of course I have to back in the trailer.  I immediately notice an odd 
 scrapping sound coming from the steering wheel that has never been 
 there before.  After backing the truck in I unhook the trailer and of 
 course the ground wire is now bare all the way to the frame of the 
 trailer. I can tell much else with mess of duct tape but it somehow 
 managed to short at some point in the harness.  The wiring where it 
 starts going into the channels back to the lights look fine so the 
 short must be closer to the connector. Regardless I am sure I will 
 have to replace the end of the harness. I was finished messing with it 
 for the moment when I noticed as I was coming in the house that the 
 brake lights are on even with the truck turned off.  WTF?  I pull the 
 fuse and the rears go out, but the top mount one by the cab stays on.  
 I cant find a fuse that will shut it off.  I got under the dash and 
 unplugged the brake lite switch and they still stay on.  I am not sure 
 if this 2002 is new enough to have the lights controlled by a 
 computer, or if this trailer 

Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Ugh.

My brother’s SDL got a short in the trunk light, and we had to run quite a bit 
of wire to fix the damage.

Trace back the harness, likely the hot wire melted some insulation all along 
the way, and you have some shorts in there.

Peter

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 6:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside down 
> which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on the 
> trailer.  It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the trailer.  In 
> looking at the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the adapter and I can't 
> even unplug it.
> 
> I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I was 
> explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back to being 
> my fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn lights came 
> back on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I started pulling 
> them and replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights were back to working 
> like they should.  The module slides into a bracket which them bolts to the 
> frame.  I was going to leave it loose to make sure it actually continued to 
> work, but then decided to go ahead and mount it as it was working fine.  As 
> soon as I started messing with it, the lights came back on and I could not 
> get them back off.  I looked at the individual wires coming directly out of 
> the connector on the truck and none appeared to be melted.  I guess I will 
> have to take a closer look as there has to be something melted within the 
> harness.  I hope it did not screw up the new module, or possibly the old 
> module was not really bad.
> 
> On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the trailer 
>> wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like the brake 
>> like module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at the flaps.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible for. 
>>> If she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those 
 too.
 
>> On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control 
>> module that may have gotten fried.  This is great.
>> 
>>> On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to take 
>>> the truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her show. When 
>>> she went to leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer and plugged it 
>>> in.  She says a few minutes later she notices smoke coming from the 
>>> wiring harness at the trailer.  Somebody taped it up with duct tape but 
>>> now she reports right turn signal not working. She gets home and of 
>>> course I have to back in the trailer.  I immediately notice an odd 
>>> scrapping sound coming from the steering wheel that has never been 
>>> there before.  After backing the truck in I unhook the trailer and of 
>>> course the ground wire is now bare all the way to the frame of the 
>>> trailer. I can tell much else with mess of duct tape but it somehow 
>>> managed to short at some point in the harness.  The wiring where it 
>>> starts going into the channels back to the lights look fine so the 
>>> short must be closer to the connector. Regardless I am sure I will have 
>>> to replace the end of the harness. I was finished messing with it for 
>>> the moment when I noticed as I was coming in the house that the brake 
>>> lights are on even with the truck turned off.  WTF?  I pull the fuse 
>>> and the rears go out, but the top mount one by the cab stays on.  I 
>>> cant find a fuse that will shut it off.  I got under the dash and 
>>> unplugged the brake lite switch and they still stay on.  I am not sure 
>>> if this 2002 is new enough to have the lights controlled by a computer, 
>>> or if this trailer situation shorted out something in the truck.  What 
>>> I find odd is the truck has fuses for the trailer lights, why didnt it 
>>> blow?  I sure hope I do not have a major wiring problem now.  It is 
>>> unbelievable how this stuff happens seemingly without fail when she 
>>> drives a vehicle.  She has another show next weekend.  Now that the 
>>> truck is 

Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, it does, and you would think it would only go in one way. However 
if you try hard enough, it will go in just fine upside down.  With these 
adapters they sometimes do not have a big enough of a tab to prevent 
this.  Its not hard to get it in upside down but goes in smooth with it 
correct.


On 10/24/2022 6:48 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

And pardon my asking, but was this with a 7 pin (round) trailer connector? 
Those have a rib on the plug that will only allow it to be inserted into the 
socket one way. I’m confused.

-D


On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yes.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 24, 2022, at 6:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Dude, it’s ALWAYS your fault, no matter how you lay things out. You haven’t 
learned that yet?

-D


On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside down 
which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on the trailer. 
 It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the trailer.  In looking at 
the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the adapter and I can't even unplug 
it.

I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I was 
explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back to being my 
fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn lights came back 
on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I started pulling them and 
replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights were back to working like they 
should.  The module slides into a bracket which them bolts to the frame.  I was 
going to leave it loose to make sure it actually continued to work, but then 
decided to go ahead and mount it as it was working fine.  As soon as I started 
messing with it, the lights came back on and I could not get them back off.  I 
looked at the individual wires coming directly out of the connector on the 
truck and none appeared to be melted.  I guess I will have to take a closer 
look as there has to be something melted within the harness.  I hope it did not 
screw up the new module, or possibly the old module was not really bad.


On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the trailer 
wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like the brake like 
module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at the flaps.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible for. If 
she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those too.


On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control module that 
may have gotten fried.  This is great.


On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to take the 
truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her show. When she went to 
leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer and plugged it in.  She says a few 
minutes later she notices smoke coming from the wiring harness at the trailer.  
Somebody taped it up with duct tape but now she reports right turn signal not 
working. She gets home and of course I have to back in the trailer.  I 
immediately notice an odd scrapping sound coming from the steering wheel that 
has never been there before.  After backing the truck in I unhook the trailer 
and of course the ground wire is now bare all the way to the frame of the 
trailer. I can tell much else with mess of duct tape but it somehow managed to 
short at some point in the harness.  The wiring where it starts going into the 
channels back to the lights look fine so the short must be closer to the 
connector. Regardless I am sure I will have to replace the end of the harness. 
I was finished messing with it for the moment when I noticed as I was coming in 
the house that the brake lights are on even with the truck turned off.  WTF?  I 
pull the fuse and the rears go out, but the top mount one by the cab stays on.  
I cant find a fuse that will shut it off.  I got under the dash and unplugged 
the brake lite switch and they still stay on.  I am not sure if this 2002 is 
new enough to have the lights controlled by a computer, or if this trailer 
situation shorted out something in the truck.  What I find odd is the truck has 
fuses for the trailer lights, why didnt it blow?  I sure hope I do not have a 
major wiring problem now.  It is 

Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

And pardon my asking, but was this with a 7 pin (round) trailer connector? 
Those have a rib on the plug that will only allow it to be inserted into the 
socket one way. I’m confused.

-D

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 6:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dude, it’s ALWAYS your fault, no matter how you lay things out. You haven’t 
>> learned that yet?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside down 
>>> which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on the 
>>> trailer.  It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the trailer.  In 
>>> looking at the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the adapter and I 
>>> can't even unplug it.
>>> 
>>> I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I 
>>> was explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back to 
>>> being my fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn 
>>> lights came back on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I 
>>> started pulling them and replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights were 
>>> back to working like they should.  The module slides into a bracket which 
>>> them bolts to the frame.  I was going to leave it loose to make sure it 
>>> actually continued to work, but then decided to go ahead and mount it as it 
>>> was working fine.  As soon as I started messing with it, the lights came 
>>> back on and I could not get them back off.  I looked at the individual 
>>> wires coming directly out of the connector on the truck and none appeared 
>>> to be melted.  I guess I will have to take a closer look as there has to be 
>>> something melted within the harness.  I hope it did not screw up the new 
>>> module, or possibly the old module was not really bad.
>>> 
 On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the 
 trailer wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like 
 the brake like module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at 
 the flaps.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible for. 
> If she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those 
>> too.
>> 
 On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control 
 module that may have gotten fried.  This is great.
 
> On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to 
> take the truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her show. 
> When she went to leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer and 
> plugged it in.  She says a few minutes later she notices smoke coming 
> from the wiring harness at the trailer.  Somebody taped it up with 
> duct tape but now she reports right turn signal not working. She gets 
> home and of course I have to back in the trailer.  I immediately 
> notice an odd scrapping sound coming from the steering wheel that has 
> never been there before.  After backing the truck in I unhook the 
> trailer and of course the ground wire is now bare all the way to the 
> frame of the trailer. I can tell much else with mess of duct tape but 
> it somehow managed to short at some point in the harness.  The wiring 
> where it starts going into the channels back to the lights look fine 
> so the short must be closer to the connector. Regardless I am sure I 
> will have to replace the end of the harness. I was finished messing 
> with it for the moment when I noticed as I was coming in the house 
> that the brake lights are on even with the truck turned off.  WTF?  I 
> pull the fuse and the rears go out, but the top mount one by the cab 
> stays on.  I cant find a fuse that will shut it off.  I got under the 
> dash and unplugged the brake lite switch and they still stay on.  I 
> am not sure if this 2002 is new enough to have the lights controlled 
> by a 

Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 6:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dude, it’s ALWAYS your fault, no matter how you lay things out. You haven’t 
> learned that yet?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside down 
>> which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on the 
>> trailer.  It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the trailer.  In 
>> looking at the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the adapter and I 
>> can't even unplug it.
>> 
>> I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I was 
>> explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back to being 
>> my fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn lights came 
>> back on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I started pulling 
>> them and replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights were back to working 
>> like they should.  The module slides into a bracket which them bolts to the 
>> frame.  I was going to leave it loose to make sure it actually continued to 
>> work, but then decided to go ahead and mount it as it was working fine.  As 
>> soon as I started messing with it, the lights came back on and I could not 
>> get them back off.  I looked at the individual wires coming directly out of 
>> the connector on the truck and none appeared to be melted.  I guess I will 
>> have to take a closer look as there has to be something melted within the 
>> harness.  I hope it did not screw up the new module, or possibly the old 
>> module was not really bad.
>> 
>>> On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the trailer 
>>> wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like the brake 
>>> like module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at the flaps.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible for. 
 If she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
> On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those 
> too.
> 
>>> On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control 
>>> module that may have gotten fried.  This is great.
>>> 
 On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to take 
 the truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her show. When 
 she went to leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer and plugged it 
 in.  She says a few minutes later she notices smoke coming from the 
 wiring harness at the trailer.  Somebody taped it up with duct tape 
 but now she reports right turn signal not working. She gets home and 
 of course I have to back in the trailer.  I immediately notice an odd 
 scrapping sound coming from the steering wheel that has never been 
 there before.  After backing the truck in I unhook the trailer and of 
 course the ground wire is now bare all the way to the frame of the 
 trailer. I can tell much else with mess of duct tape but it somehow 
 managed to short at some point in the harness.  The wiring where it 
 starts going into the channels back to the lights look fine so the 
 short must be closer to the connector. Regardless I am sure I will 
 have to replace the end of the harness. I was finished messing with it 
 for the moment when I noticed as I was coming in the house that the 
 brake lights are on even with the truck turned off.  WTF?  I pull the 
 fuse and the rears go out, but the top mount one by the cab stays on.  
 I cant find a fuse that will shut it off.  I got under the dash and 
 unplugged the brake lite switch and they still stay on.  I am not sure 
 if this 2002 is new enough to have the lights controlled by a 
 computer, or if this trailer situation shorted out something in the 
 truck.  What I find odd is the truck has fuses for the trailer lights, 
 why didnt it blow?  I sure hope I do not have a major wiring problem 
 now.  It is unbelievable how this stuff happens seemingly without fail 
 when she drives a vehicle.  She has another 

Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Dude, it’s ALWAYS your fault, no matter how you lay things out. You haven’t 
learned that yet?

-D

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside down 
> which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on the 
> trailer.  It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the trailer.  In 
> looking at the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the adapter and I can't 
> even unplug it.
> 
> I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I was 
> explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back to being 
> my fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn lights came 
> back on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I started pulling 
> them and replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights were back to working 
> like they should.  The module slides into a bracket which them bolts to the 
> frame.  I was going to leave it loose to make sure it actually continued to 
> work, but then decided to go ahead and mount it as it was working fine.  As 
> soon as I started messing with it, the lights came back on and I could not 
> get them back off.  I looked at the individual wires coming directly out of 
> the connector on the truck and none appeared to be melted.  I guess I will 
> have to take a closer look as there has to be something melted within the 
> harness.  I hope it did not screw up the new module, or possibly the old 
> module was not really bad.
> 
> On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the trailer 
>> wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like the brake 
>> like module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at the flaps.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible for. 
>>> If she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those 
 too.
 
>> On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control 
>> module that may have gotten fried.  This is great.
>> 
>>> On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to take 
>>> the truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her show. When 
>>> she went to leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer and plugged it 
>>> in.  She says a few minutes later she notices smoke coming from the 
>>> wiring harness at the trailer.  Somebody taped it up with duct tape but 
>>> now she reports right turn signal not working. She gets home and of 
>>> course I have to back in the trailer.  I immediately notice an odd 
>>> scrapping sound coming from the steering wheel that has never been 
>>> there before.  After backing the truck in I unhook the trailer and of 
>>> course the ground wire is now bare all the way to the frame of the 
>>> trailer. I can tell much else with mess of duct tape but it somehow 
>>> managed to short at some point in the harness.  The wiring where it 
>>> starts going into the channels back to the lights look fine so the 
>>> short must be closer to the connector. Regardless I am sure I will have 
>>> to replace the end of the harness. I was finished messing with it for 
>>> the moment when I noticed as I was coming in the house that the brake 
>>> lights are on even with the truck turned off.  WTF?  I pull the fuse 
>>> and the rears go out, but the top mount one by the cab stays on.  I 
>>> cant find a fuse that will shut it off.  I got under the dash and 
>>> unplugged the brake lite switch and they still stay on.  I am not sure 
>>> if this 2002 is new enough to have the lights controlled by a computer, 
>>> or if this trailer situation shorted out something in the truck.  What 
>>> I find odd is the truck has fuses for the trailer lights, why didnt it 
>>> blow?  I sure hope I do not have a major wiring problem now.  It is 
>>> unbelievable how this stuff happens seemingly without fail when she 
>>> drives a vehicle.  She has another show next weekend.  Now that the 
>>> truck is down, there are no tow vehicles left to tow her trailer 
>>> assuming I have time to fix the wiring on it.  I guess if she wants to 
>>> 

Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside 
down which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on 
the trailer.  It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the 
trailer.  In looking at the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the 
adapter and I can't even unplug it.


I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I 
was explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back 
to being my fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn 
lights came back on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I 
started pulling them and replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights 
were back to working like they should.  The module slides into a bracket 
which them bolts to the frame.  I was going to leave it loose to make 
sure it actually continued to work, but then decided to go ahead and 
mount it as it was working fine.  As soon as I started messing with it, 
the lights came back on and I could not get them back off.  I looked at 
the individual wires coming directly out of the connector on the truck 
and none appeared to be melted.  I guess I will have to take a closer 
look as there has to be something melted within the harness.  I hope it 
did not screw up the new module, or possibly the old module was not 
really bad.


On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the trailer 
wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like the brake like 
module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at the flaps.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible for. If 
she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those too.


On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control module that 
may have gotten fried.  This is great.


On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to take the 
truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her show. When she went to 
leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer and plugged it in.  She says a few 
minutes later she notices smoke coming from the wiring harness at the trailer.  
Somebody taped it up with duct tape but now she reports right turn signal not 
working. She gets home and of course I have to back in the trailer.  I 
immediately notice an odd scrapping sound coming from the steering wheel that 
has never been there before.  After backing the truck in I unhook the trailer 
and of course the ground wire is now bare all the way to the frame of the 
trailer. I can tell much else with mess of duct tape but it somehow managed to 
short at some point in the harness.  The wiring where it starts going into the 
channels back to the lights look fine so the short must be closer to the 
connector. Regardless I am sure I will have to replace the end of the harness. 
I was finished messing with it for the moment when I noticed as I was coming in 
the house that the brake lights are on even with the truck turned off.  WTF?  I 
pull the fuse and the rears go out, but the top mount one by the cab stays on.  
I cant find a fuse that will shut it off.  I got under the dash and unplugged 
the brake lite switch and they still stay on.  I am not sure if this 2002 is 
new enough to have the lights controlled by a computer, or if this trailer 
situation shorted out something in the truck.  What I find odd is the truck has 
fuses for the trailer lights, why didnt it blow?  I sure hope I do not have a 
major wiring problem now.  It is unbelievable how this stuff happens seemingly 
without fail when she drives a vehicle.  She has another show next weekend.  
Now that the truck is down, there are no tow vehicles left to tow her trailer 
assuming I have time to fix the wiring on it.  I guess if she wants to go to 
this show bad enough, she can rent a vehicle of some sort.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To 

Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4m teardown and rebuild

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Get a mortician table!  He has another 722.9 vid or two as well

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:50 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s not at all. I’ve rebuilt domestic slushboxes some years back, and other 
> than what you point out, it’s not a difficult job at all. It doesn’t even 
> require any specialized tools for the most part, basically a good pair of 
> expanding ring pliers.
> 
> If you had a place to do the work where you could lay everything out as you 
> disassemble/reassemble it would be pretty simple. It’s mostly just popping 
> clutches open, replacing the frictions and steels, bearings and seals, and 
> putting everything back together.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I haven't worked on a transmission it but seems to me the biggest things are 
>> cleanliness and keeping track of all the parts. If you are methodical and 
>> organized and not in a hurry it doesn't seem too intimidating.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, at 13:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Just finished watching this video during my lunch. Pretty informative, 
>>> and some good background on the workings of this transmission. That 
>>> being said, after watching him disassemble it, there’s not a lot 
>>> different from the good old PowerGlides and C4s from the days when I 
>>> was in school when it comes to automatic transmissions. If I had the 
>>> time and space I would consider rebuilding one of these myself. I’m not 
>>> sure it would make good economic sense compared to a rebuild from Sun 
>>> Valley, but my point is more that it’s not rocket science.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Yes absolutely 
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Even if you only do it once, you should own a good quality transmission
> jack before you do it. [or rent one]  It makes a bad job so simple and 
> easy.
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 7:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It's not that hard once you get the thing out of the car
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEQpTVQMoqk
>> 
>> --
>> --FT
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Jack hole cover for CLK 320.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

OK.
thanks.Classic Center has one I think and am waiting for a call back.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:23 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> DM me a VIN and I’ll look the number up for you if you like. That way you
> can just order one online and save yourself the trip…
>
> -D
>
> On Oct 24, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Dwight Giles  dwight.gi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> OK let me call. I don't mind painting it. Thanks Dan.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Bissell Cove
> Wickford RI
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:05 PM dan penoff.com via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Dealer? If so, it will likely be primer colored.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Anybody have one or know a good source?  This is a 2000  and the rocker
> > panel has an angle in it so flat ones from other models won't work.
> >
> > Sadly we left the cover on the side of the road in Maine after jacking up
> > to change a flat tire.
> > TIA
> > Dwight
> >
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Bissell Cove
> > Wickford RI
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Jack hole cover for CLK 320.

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

DM me a VIN and I’ll look the number up for you if you like. That way you can 
just order one online and save yourself the trip…

-D

On Oct 24, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Dwight Giles 
mailto:dwight.gi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

OK let me call. I don't mind painting it. Thanks Dan.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:05 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
Dealer? If so, it will likely be primer colored.

-D


> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Anybody have one or know a good source?  This is a 2000  and the rocker
> panel has an angle in it so flat ones from other models won't work.
>
> Sadly we left the cover on the side of the road in Maine after jacking up
> to change a flat tire.
> TIA
> Dwight
>
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Bissell Cove
> Wickford RI
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Jack hole cover for CLK 320.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

OK let me call. I don't mind painting it. Thanks Dan.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:05 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dealer? If so, it will likely be primer colored.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Anybody have one or know a good source?  This is a 2000  and the rocker
> > panel has an angle in it so flat ones from other models won't work.
> >
> > Sadly we left the cover on the side of the road in Maine after jacking up
> > to change a flat tire.
> > TIA
> > Dwight
> >
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Bissell Cove
> > Wickford RI
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Jack hole cover for CLK 320.

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Dealer? If so, it will likely be primer colored.

-D


> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anybody have one or know a good source?  This is a 2000  and the rocker
> panel has an angle in it so flat ones from other models won't work.
> 
> Sadly we left the cover on the side of the road in Maine after jacking up
> to change a flat tire.
> TIA
> Dwight
> 
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Bissell Cove
> Wickford RI
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Jack hole cover for CLK 320.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Anybody have one or know a good source?  This is a 2000  and the rocker
panel has an angle in it so flat ones from other models won't work.

Sadly we left the cover on the side of the road in Maine after jacking up
to change a flat tire.
TIA
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4m teardown and rebuild

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

It’s not at all. I’ve rebuilt domestic slushboxes some years back, and other 
than what you point out, it’s not a difficult job at all. It doesn’t even 
require any specialized tools for the most part, basically a good pair of 
expanding ring pliers.

If you had a place to do the work where you could lay everything out as you 
disassemble/reassemble it would be pretty simple. It’s mostly just popping 
clutches open, replacing the frictions and steels, bearings and seals, and 
putting everything back together.

-D

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I haven't worked on a transmission it but seems to me the biggest things are 
> cleanliness and keeping track of all the parts. If you are methodical and 
> organized and not in a hurry it doesn't seem too intimidating.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, at 13:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just finished watching this video during my lunch. Pretty informative, 
>> and some good background on the workings of this transmission. That 
>> being said, after watching him disassemble it, there’s not a lot 
>> different from the good old PowerGlides and C4s from the days when I 
>> was in school when it comes to automatic transmissions. If I had the 
>> time and space I would consider rebuilding one of these myself. I’m not 
>> sure it would make good economic sense compared to a rebuild from Sun 
>> Valley, but my point is more that it’s not rocket science.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes absolutely 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 Even if you only do it once, you should own a good quality transmission
 jack before you do it. [or rent one]  It makes a bad job so simple and 
 easy.
 
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 7:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> It's not that hard once you get the thing out of the car
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEQpTVQMoqk
> 
> --
> --FT
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4m teardown and rebuild

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I haven't worked on a transmission it but seems to me the biggest things are 
cleanliness and keeping track of all the parts. If you are methodical and 
organized and not in a hurry it doesn't seem too intimidating.


On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, at 13:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Just finished watching this video during my lunch. Pretty informative, 
> and some good background on the workings of this transmission. That 
> being said, after watching him disassemble it, there’s not a lot 
> different from the good old PowerGlides and C4s from the days when I 
> was in school when it comes to automatic transmissions. If I had the 
> time and space I would consider rebuilding one of these myself. I’m not 
> sure it would make good economic sense compared to a rebuild from Sun 
> Valley, but my point is more that it’s not rocket science.
>
> -D
>
>
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes absolutely 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Even if you only do it once, you should own a good quality transmission
>>> jack before you do it. [or rent one]  It makes a bad job so simple and easy.
>>> 
 On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 7:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 It's not that hard once you get the thing out of the car
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEQpTVQMoqk
 
 --
 --FT
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4m teardown and rebuild

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Just finished watching this video during my lunch. Pretty informative, and some 
good background on the workings of this transmission. That being said, after 
watching him disassemble it, there’s not a lot different from the good old 
PowerGlides and C4s from the days when I was in school when it comes to 
automatic transmissions. If I had the time and space I would consider 
rebuilding one of these myself. I’m not sure it would make good economic sense 
compared to a rebuild from Sun Valley, but my point is more that it’s not 
rocket science.

-D


> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes absolutely 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Even if you only do it once, you should own a good quality transmission
>> jack before you do it. [or rent one]  It makes a bad job so simple and easy.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 7:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's not that hard once you get the thing out of the car
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEQpTVQMoqk
>>> 
>>> --
>>> --FT
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4m teardown and rebuild

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yes absolutely 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Even if you only do it once, you should own a good quality transmission
> jack before you do it. [or rent one]  It makes a bad job so simple and easy.
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 7:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It's not that hard once you get the thing out of the car
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEQpTVQMoqk
>> 
>> --
>> --FT
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] It is a 2005 so don’t expect this car to be perfect, 2005 Mercedes E500 Wagon - $5,300 (Camel)

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

CAMEL

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 11:02 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Carmel IN is new money. I would also want to see the undercarriage, as they 
> do salt the roads there.
> 
> Otherwise, it looks pretty nice.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This looks pretty nice, price is a bit high but not crazy.  I like it.
>> 
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-2005-mercedes-e500-wagon/7549192992.html
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4m teardown and rebuild

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Even if you only do it once, you should own a good quality transmission
jack before you do it. [or rent one]  It makes a bad job so simple and easy.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 7:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's not that hard once you get the thing out of the car
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEQpTVQMoqk
>
> --
> --FT
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] No key no tittle crazy ex girlfriend stole everything and won’t give it back

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Just joking guys.. honest

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 9:01 AM G Mann  wrote:

> Can you film it on a YouTube... should gather a million hits!
> "Crazy mad woman tips over the edge while two guys play "Mad Ex girlfriend
> roulette"
> Only problem is, how do you do a followup video? Sort of a 1 and done,
> don't you think...
> Does the winner get the car and conjugal visits while she does life in
> prison for murder? .. Maybe sell the movie rights?
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 5:07 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe I can get Dan to be my wingman on this, we can go get the car then
>> pay a visit to the CEGF. She could maybe only get one of us, the winner
>> would get the car.
>>
>> —FT
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:36 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Fantasy? ... It is my considered personal opinion that there is a very
>> > narrow psychological shift of boundaries between someone who will take
>> what
>> > does not belong to them as a form of inflicting punishment to another
>> > individual and that same individual being stabbed with a kitchen knife
>> in
>> > his sleep.
>> > Please know that I cast no negative attributes upon your sense of
>> > adventure, just that I urge careful caution when handling sensitive
>> > explosives.
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 9:00 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dude yer ruining all the fantasy here with this car
>> >>
>> >> --FT
>> >> Sent from iFōn
>> >>
>> >>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 11:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If the car was titled in the guys name it would be a simple trip to
>> DMV
>> >> and
>> >>> apply for a duplicate title, mailed to his address.. even if the
>> "girl "
>> >> is
>> >>> named on the title, with him.
>> >>>
>>  On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 8:25 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  I already know these women. They can be entertaining in small doses.
>> One
>>  or two in larger doses nudgenudgewinkwink
>> 
>>  --FT
>>  Sent from iFōn
>> 
>> > On Oct 23, 2022, at 9:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > < In any case I’d go see the crazy ex just for the experience.
>> >>>
>> > I had no idea you were into self abuse as a form of self
>> >> entertainment...
>> > Could I suggest that you step into any bar, anywhere, at happy hour
>> and
>> > announce... "Free drinks for any ex girlfriend who will tell me the
>> >> whole
>> > story." I'm betting you will be entertained to your hearts content.
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 6:27 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I’d buy that and go see the crazy ex for a tittle. Tittles are
>> good.
>> >> Or
>> >> wait until next year to register it in VT. In any case I’d go see
>> the
>>  crazy
>> >> ex just for the experience.
>> >>
>> >> --FT
>> >> Sent from iFōn
>> >>
>> >>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:36 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/632149981789359/
>> >>>
>> >>> -D
>> >>>
>> >>> ___
>> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> >>>
>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> >>>
>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> ___
>> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> >>
>> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> >>
>> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> > ___
>> > http://www.okiebenz.com
>> >
>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> >
>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> >
>> 
>>  ___
>>  http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>>  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>>  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
>> >>> ___
>> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> >>>
>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> >>>
>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> ___
>> 

Re: [MBZ] No key no tittle crazy ex girlfriend stole everything and won’t give it back

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Can you film it on a YouTube... should gather a million hits!
"Crazy mad woman tips over the edge while two guys play "Mad Ex girlfriend
roulette"
Only problem is, how do you do a followup video? Sort of a 1 and done,
don't you think...
Does the winner get the car and conjugal visits while she does life in
prison for murder? .. Maybe sell the movie rights?

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 5:07 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe I can get Dan to be my wingman on this, we can go get the car then
> pay a visit to the CEGF. She could maybe only get one of us, the winner
> would get the car.
>
> —FT
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:36 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Fantasy? ... It is my considered personal opinion that there is a very
> > narrow psychological shift of boundaries between someone who will take
> what
> > does not belong to them as a form of inflicting punishment to another
> > individual and that same individual being stabbed with a kitchen knife in
> > his sleep.
> > Please know that I cast no negative attributes upon your sense of
> > adventure, just that I urge careful caution when handling sensitive
> > explosives.
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 9:00 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dude yer ruining all the fantasy here with this car
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iFōn
> >>
> >>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 11:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If the car was titled in the guys name it would be a simple trip to
> DMV
> >> and
> >>> apply for a duplicate title, mailed to his address.. even if the "girl
> "
> >> is
> >>> named on the title, with him.
> >>>
>  On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 8:25 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  I already know these women. They can be entertaining in small doses.
> One
>  or two in larger doses nudgenudgewinkwink
> 
>  --FT
>  Sent from iFōn
> 
> > On Oct 23, 2022, at 9:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> >
> > < In any case I’d go see the crazy ex just for the experience.
> >>>
> > I had no idea you were into self abuse as a form of self
> >> entertainment...
> > Could I suggest that you step into any bar, anywhere, at happy hour
> and
> > announce... "Free drinks for any ex girlfriend who will tell me the
> >> whole
> > story." I'm betting you will be entertained to your hearts content.
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 6:27 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I’d buy that and go see the crazy ex for a tittle. Tittles are good.
> >> Or
> >> wait until next year to register it in VT. In any case I’d go see
> the
>  crazy
> >> ex just for the experience.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iFōn
> >>
> >>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:36 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/632149981789359/
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> 
>  ___
>  http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
>  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
>  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
> 

Re: [MBZ] only 54000 miles!! Mercedes E320 Wagon - $7, 000 (Savannah)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The european look.  They don't sport trunk badges.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 10:56 AM mitch--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 2022-10-24 10:24, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > Only used by lady realtor to haul her for sale signs around
> >
> >
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-mercedes-e320-wagon/7549084289.html
>
> Repainted or just lost its rear badges?
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] It is a 2005 so don’t expect this car to be perfect, 2005 Mercedes E500 Wagon - $5,300 (Camel)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Carmel IN is new money. I would also want to see the undercarriage, as they do 
salt the roads there.

Otherwise, it looks pretty nice.

-D

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This looks pretty nice, price is a bit high but not crazy.  I like it.
> 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-2005-mercedes-e500-wagon/7549192992.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] only 54000 miles!! Mercedes E320 Wagon - $7, 000 (Savannah)

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2022-10-24 10:24, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Only used by lady realtor to haul her for sale signs around

https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-mercedes-e320-wagon/7549084289.html


Repainted or just lost its rear badges?

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] 722.9 4m teardown and rebuild

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's not that hard once you get the thing out of the car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEQpTVQMoqk

--
--FT
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] No key no tittle crazy ex girlfriend stole everything and won’t give it back

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Offer to purchase the keys and she might reconsider.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:09 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Uh yeh. I’m not so sure about this. I don’t want to get involved
> in a domestic dispute over a car.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 24, 2022, at 8:06 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe I can get Dan to be my wingman on this, we can go get the car then
> pay a visit to the CEGF. She could maybe only get one of us, the winner
> would get the car.
> >
> > —FT
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:36 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Fantasy? ... It is my considered personal opinion that there is a very
> >> narrow psychological shift of boundaries between someone who will take
> what
> >> does not belong to them as a form of inflicting punishment to another
> >> individual and that same individual being stabbed with a kitchen knife
> in
> >> his sleep.
> >> Please know that I cast no negative attributes upon your sense of
> >> adventure, just that I urge careful caution when handling sensitive
> >> explosives.
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 9:00 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dude yer ruining all the fantasy here with this car
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
>  On Oct 23, 2022, at 11:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  If the car was titled in the guys name it would be a simple trip to
> DMV
> >>> and
>  apply for a duplicate title, mailed to his address.. even if the
> "girl "
> >>> is
>  named on the title, with him.
> 
> > On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 8:25 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I already know these women. They can be entertaining in small doses.
> One
> > or two in larger doses nudgenudgewinkwink
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iFōn
> >
> >> On Oct 23, 2022, at 9:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> < In any case I’d go see the crazy ex just for the experience.
> 
> >> I had no idea you were into self abuse as a form of self
> >>> entertainment...
> >> Could I suggest that you step into any bar, anywhere, at happy hour
> and
> >> announce... "Free drinks for any ex girlfriend who will tell me the
> >>> whole
> >> story." I'm betting you will be entertained to your hearts content.
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 6:27 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I’d buy that and go see the crazy ex for a tittle. Tittles are
> good.
> >>> Or
> >>> wait until next year to register it in VT. In any case I’d go see
> the
> > crazy
> >>> ex just for the experience.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
>  On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:36 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/632149981789359/
> 
>  -D
> 
>  ___
>  http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
>  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
>  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
>  ___
>  http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
>  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
>  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> 

[MBZ] It is a 2005 so don’t expect this car to be perfect, 2005 Mercedes E500 Wagon - $5,300 (Camel)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This looks pretty nice, price is a bit high but not crazy.  I like it.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-2005-mercedes-e500-wagon/7549192992.html

--
--FT


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] 2004 E-320 Mercedes Wagon - $14,500 (Chapel Hill)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This lady realtor has the 1 key stuck on her keyboard


 
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/chapel-hill-2004-320-mercedes-wagon/7549057665.html

--
--FT
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] only 54000 miles!! Mercedes E320 Wagon - $7,000 (Savannah)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Only used by lady realtor to haul her for sale signs around

https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-mercedes-e320-wagon/7549084289.html

--
--FT


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] No key no tittle crazy ex girlfriend stole everything and won’t give it back

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Uh yeh. I’m not so sure about this. I don’t want to get involved in a 
domestic dispute over a car.

-D

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 8:06 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I can get Dan to be my wingman on this, we can go get the car then pay 
> a visit to the CEGF. She could maybe only get one of us, the winner would get 
> the car. 
> 
> —FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:36 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Fantasy? ... It is my considered personal opinion that there is a very
>> narrow psychological shift of boundaries between someone who will take what
>> does not belong to them as a form of inflicting punishment to another
>> individual and that same individual being stabbed with a kitchen knife in
>> his sleep.
>> Please know that I cast no negative attributes upon your sense of
>> adventure, just that I urge careful caution when handling sensitive
>> explosives.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 9:00 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dude yer ruining all the fantasy here with this car
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2022, at 11:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
 
 If the car was titled in the guys name it would be a simple trip to DMV
>>> and
 apply for a duplicate title, mailed to his address.. even if the "girl "
>>> is
 named on the title, with him.
 
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 8:25 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I already know these women. They can be entertaining in small doses. One
> or two in larger doses nudgenudgewinkwink
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 9:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> < In any case I’d go see the crazy ex just for the experience.
 
>> I had no idea you were into self abuse as a form of self
>>> entertainment...
>> Could I suggest that you step into any bar, anywhere, at happy hour and
>> announce... "Free drinks for any ex girlfriend who will tell me the
>>> whole
>> story." I'm betting you will be entertained to your hearts content.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 6:27 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d buy that and go see the crazy ex for a tittle. Tittles are good.
>>> Or
>>> wait until next year to register it in VT. In any case I’d go see the
> crazy
>>> ex just for the experience.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:36 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/632149981789359/
 
 -D
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives 

Re: [MBZ] No key no tittle crazy ex girlfriend stole everything and won’t give it back

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Maybe I can get Dan to be my wingman on this, we can go get the car then pay a 
visit to the CEGF. She could maybe only get one of us, the winner would get the 
car. 

—FT

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:36 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Fantasy? ... It is my considered personal opinion that there is a very
> narrow psychological shift of boundaries between someone who will take what
> does not belong to them as a form of inflicting punishment to another
> individual and that same individual being stabbed with a kitchen knife in
> his sleep.
> Please know that I cast no negative attributes upon your sense of
> adventure, just that I urge careful caution when handling sensitive
> explosives.
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 9:00 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dude yer ruining all the fantasy here with this car
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 11:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If the car was titled in the guys name it would be a simple trip to DMV
>> and
>>> apply for a duplicate title, mailed to his address.. even if the "girl "
>> is
>>> named on the title, with him.
>>> 
 On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 8:25 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 I already know these women. They can be entertaining in small doses. One
 or two in larger doses nudgenudgewinkwink
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
> On Oct 23, 2022, at 9:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:
> 
> < In any case I’d go see the crazy ex just for the experience.
>>> 
> I had no idea you were into self abuse as a form of self
>> entertainment...
> Could I suggest that you step into any bar, anywhere, at happy hour and
> announce... "Free drinks for any ex girlfriend who will tell me the
>> whole
> story." I'm betting you will be entertained to your hearts content.
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 6:27 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I’d buy that and go see the crazy ex for a tittle. Tittles are good.
>> Or
>> wait until next year to register it in VT. In any case I’d go see the
 crazy
>> ex just for the experience.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:36 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/632149981789359/
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com