Re: [MBZ] AC compressor noisy at idle
Thanks Jim - I'll check on the oil - but I think this was done as a first time try by my son - I'll copy him on this and ask about the mineral oil. Cools fine, just noisy. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 6:53 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC compressor noisy at idle In a message dated 7/29/2006 8:37:46 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm starting to have what I think is excessive noise from the A/C compressor on my '81 300SD. I am pretty sure the compressor was a reman installed about 18 months ago. Any recommendations for repair or replacement? Would I be better off with a junkyard, reman, or should I go for a new? Car is quiet without the AC running, and then about doubles the noise with the AC, and the car tends to overheat [to high normal] when idling. It is a converted system, and works fine except for the noise when idling [can't tell when it is at highway speeds]. Thanks - Bill, Noise is a symptom of low oil quantity in the system. Have you had to recharge the system since the compressor was put in? If so, did you add oil at the same time? Oil isoften overlooked but I have not seen too many freon leaks that didn't include a loss of oil too. Or you are in the first throws of black death, which often follows a conversion to R134 where the system was not completely flushed of mineral oil. Lets hope not the latter, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 143 K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Red delicious?
And I can't find the word 'rediculous' in the dictionary. That's because he spelled it REDICULIOUS! RLE
Re: [MBZ] Importing Car from Canada - Border Customs Questions
Thanks Jeff. I'll check with customs. And I'll be very sure to really look the car over before buying it. Especially a 1947! John Peterson Jeff Zedic wrote: John, Just a minor caveat. The Quebecois are not known for looking after vehicles very wellIt may be a total rust bucket and in my experience dealing with used cars from La Belle Province, they can be a nightmare. I tried to console a poor slob that bought a two year old Lexus ES300 that was really two differentones welded together.badly.. I'm not saying that they're all like that, but be VERY careful with a car from Quebec and know what you're getting!! It could be a god deal also...but not in my professional dealings there. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Occasional Horn Sounding
John, This is a special urban accessory-it means get out of my way before I run you over. Double safety-brakes plus horn. You can drive a car without brakes but not without horn. Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Peterson Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Occasional Horn Sounding During the last few hot days here in RI, my horn has been beeping for about 1/2 second when I hit the brake pedal- but intermittently. It is strange. Anyone had this? Must be something to do with the alarm, I am guessing. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 81k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] watch this Kaleb
the message was identical, see the To: section. I sent it to the 4 lists I subscribe to. Linux and Mercedes blocked it, Banned and Biodiesel allowed it. What's up with this crap? On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:16:14 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are sending some sort of formatting, it will be stripped on certain lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] So today I met 123 Club Vinny
His website disappeared recently I think, unless the link I have is wrong. On 7/29/06, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At an MBCA event. Seems to be an ok guy. -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (104k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
[MBZ] OT air compressor
So, yesterday we purchased the $100 Dayton Model 1500 air compressor and reassembled it today. Finally fired it up about 9 tonight (had to make a trip to Mena and borrow a few tools from Grandpa's house) and it leaks a fairly steady drip out the oil sight tube on the side of the block. Anyone had this problem on an air compressor before? What is a recommended fix? Epoxy from the outside or inside? Any others?? It needs an oil change also, how do I tell how much oil I need to add? It is a two stage compressor. TIA for the help. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Importing Car from Canada - Border Customs Questions
Hello, list Customs Officer here, For a 1947 car, all you will need is a bill of sale and the car's insurance print-out which doubles as a title in Canada. At the border, they will issue a form CF7501 which is valid in all fifty states to show your license office that the car has been examined by USCS and is in compliance. A '47 is exempt from DOT and EPA requirements. Duty is assessed at 3% of the first $1K and 2.5% on the remaining balance. US and CDN manufactured vehicles are exempt duty. Please email me offline with any further questions. I can be reached at my office from Sun to Tue this week at 509 476 2955 or 476 2125. Regards, Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
[MBZ] Your injection pump
the pump went out today, Saturday, at about 1 PM. they said figure 3 working days to get it.. Try the archives at this web site for info on how to set up the timing on these pumps. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com)Rusty, who sells Mercedes parts at guaranteed lowest prices, sponsors this list. Check out _www.buymbparts.com_ (http://www.buymbparts.com) for more info and good parts prices. I left feedback for you, please do the same for me when you have received the pump. Good luck Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 143 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Red delicious?
On Jul 29, 2006, at 5:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I can't find the word 'rediculous' in the dictionary. That's because he spelled it REDICULIOUS! RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Occasional Horn Sounding
During the last few hot days here in RI, my horn has been beeping for about 1/2 second when I hit the brake pedal- but intermittently. It is strange. Anyone had this? Must be something to do with the alarm, I am guessing. So am I. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] vac pump 1980 300D
Did the shop reverse the vaccum lines to the ignition switch? Or is this how this system should operate? Can I reverse the lines under the hood without damaging anything?. Yes, try that. The lines are supposed to leak on one end (the IP) when ON, and not when OFF (they are coupled together then). The vacuum switch itself can fall apart, I've had this happen, on the Albatross (79 240D). I was able to put it back together in that case, it had gotten oily and a good cleaning took care of it. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT air compressor
trip to Mena and borrow a few tools from Grandpa's house) and it leaks a fairly steady drip out the oil sight tube on the side of the block. Anyone had this problem on an air compressor before? What is a recommended fix? Epoxy from the outside or inside? Any others?? You could try that on the outside, obviously cleaning well is a required first step. Replacing it would be good, too, if you can find a replacement. It needs an oil change also, how do I tell how much oil I need to add? That's what the sight glass is for. In absence of any identifiable mark, halfway up the glass is good. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT air compressor
Well, the compressor is around 50 years old, so it'll be hard to replace the sight glass. Though, it might be a standard 1/2 NPTlooks about the right size. I'll check that tomorrow. On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:42:31 -0500, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trip to Mena and borrow a few tools from Grandpa's house) and it leaks a fairly steady drip out the oil sight tube on the side of the block. Anyone had this problem on an air compressor before? What is a recommended fix? Epoxy from the outside or inside? Any others?? You could try that on the outside, obviously cleaning well is a required first step. Replacing it would be good, too, if you can find a replacement. It needs an oil change also, how do I tell how much oil I need to add? That's what the sight glass is for. In absence of any identifiable mark, halfway up the glass is good. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Hm - I'm not entirely sure - maybe we have too much time on our hands ? The presenter, Vicki Butler-Henderson is a very capable racing driver, and a babe too ! Howard Fulford Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in several different segments. But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too. On 7/30/06, Howard Fulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm - I'm not entirely sure - maybe we have too much time on our hands ? The presenter, Vicki Butler-Henderson is a very capable racing driver, and a babe too ! Howard Fulford Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I'll agree with that!! That girl is SMOKIN' HOT as we say on this side of the pond. She drives, she blows stuff up, she's pretty funny, she's very pretty, she's got one heck of a body and she can aim a cannonWhat more could a man ask for in a woman? Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Fulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? Hm - I'm not entirely sure - maybe we have too much time on our hands ? The presenter, Vicki Butler-Henderson is a very capable racing driver, and a babe too ! Howard Fulford Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] carfax, please, anyone?
1G1JC5246V7281513 Especially curious as to country of manufacture. Didn't see it anywhere (yet). Thanks. -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: newcar.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 350999 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20060730/0e70f5bc/attachment.jpe
Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today
so why can you chip the cummins or the powerchoak, it does something to the timing and you get more power and better mileage? Mike Canfield wrote: There is no increase in mileage by chipping the Duramax. It can make more power at a cost of the risk of damage and loss of mileage. Mike -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today
yes, I saw that picture, if I can dig it up I will post it. But its only logical the cummins would have bigger rods, the displacement is spread out over 6 cylinders where the others its spread out over 8, so they wouldnt have to be as heavy because you have more of them. Jim Cathey wrote: two. I never spent any time reading Duramax forums, and I never heard of a blown up Cummins when I was reading Dodge forums, so blown 7.3 Powerstrokes are all I know anything about. It's because thrown rods on a Cummins are rare, which would make sense if you've ever seen one of the things. There's a picture floating about of the big three's rods sitting next to each other that's pretty interesting. I've heard of blown head gaskets most often. And you _can_ fry a piston. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
How many times is this going to be posted? This is at least the 3rd or 4th that I can remember in the last 2 or 3 weeks. Mitch Haley wrote: It's been reposted on youtube. Do I have the whole show? Part 4 ends with a replay of the burning after the mechanic cranks it over post bombing with a jump start. Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQ Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRKhKKdXIl4 Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn19Qj5jtf4 Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTedyrdAzV0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] carfax, please, anyone?
I just googled that VIN and got the CarFax link, which spit out a brief description stating that the cavalier was MFG in Merka. A cavalier?!? yuck! http://www.carfax.com/cfm/check_order.cfm?VIN=1G1JC5246V7281513PopUpStatus=0 On 7/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1G1JC5246V7281513 Especially curious as to country of manufacture. Didn't see it anywhere (yet). Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] So today I met 123 Club Vinny
WOW, that was an informative post denial. George Gregory wrote: At an MBCA event. Seems to be an ok guy. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today
All the cummins I drove, even the duallies, ran the 3.73 gears. Its posted right there on the sticker in the glove box. According to the owners manual with my chebbie, I have 3.73 also. I think the difference is in the tranny. The allison is 5 speed and whatever junk they put in the dodge seems to be 4 speed. kevin kraly wrote: At highway speed, the duramax turns WAY less RPM than the cummins. I wonder if the Cummins was running 4.10:1 gearing while the DMax has 3.73 or 3.55 gearing? Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela AKA Granny ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] vac pump 1980 300D
sounds like its doing what its supposed to. When you turn the key off it allows vacuum thru the key to the shutoff. When you turn the key on, you want the vacuum to bleed off so it releases the shutoff and you can start the engine. jgiels wrote: I had the shop fix the steering lock form when they installed the new ignition. I have looking into the slow shut off of the engine. I know there is a leak in the green vacuum line so I have disconnected it. I also disconnected the brown one. So with the mighty vac on the back side of the yellow check valve and the yellow and yellow(with stripe) connected I am able to get 15 of vaccuum, door locks work. When I operate the door locks the vacuum goes down a bit as they operate then recover to 15. When I do the same test with the brown vacuum line connected I do not get the vacuum to recover to 15 it just stays where it goes down to. When I pull a vacuum on the brown line to 15 with the ignition in the OFF POSITION it stays strong for an hour. When I turn the key on the vacuum goes to ZERO and am not able to pull a vacuum on the line. Did the shop reverse the vaccum lines to the ignition switch? Or is this how this system should operate? Can I reverse the lines under the hood without damaging anything?. TIA Douglas Sherman 1980 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Occasional Horn Sounding
sounds like you have a short somewhere. John Peterson wrote: During the last few hot days here in RI, my horn has been beeping for about 1/2 second when I hit the brake pedal- but intermittently. It is strange. Anyone had this? Must be something to do with the alarm, I am guessing. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 81k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] carfax, please, anyone?
Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 1997 Chevrolet Cavalier VIN 1G1JC5246V7281513 Body Style 4 Door Sedan Country of Manufacture United States Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description 1G1JC5246V7281513 Title Check No records found Problem Check No records found Odometer Check No records found Vehicle Information Records found Full History Records found Title Check Your vehicle checks out! Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found Damaged No Damaged Records Found Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found Junk No Junk Records Found Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found Salvage No Salvage Records Found Problem Check Your vehicle checks out! NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found Vehicle Information Problems Found! Accident Data Accident Data Records Found Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found Government Use No Government Use Records Found Police Use No Police Use Records Found Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found Theft No Theft Records Found Vehicle History Records We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 17 records for this 1997 CHEVROLET CAVALIER . Note the highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle. Date Location Mileage Description 1997-04-17 kansas city, MO registration event/renewal 1997-04-17 kansas city, MO titled or registered as a fleet/rental vehicle 1997-04-25 kansas city, MO 10 title 1997-04-25 kansas city, MO titled or registered as a fleet/rental vehicle 1997-11-04 midwest region, 13558 reported at auto auction 1997-11-26 des moines, IA 13559 title 1998-04-13 IA right side impact with another vehicle 1998-11-19 des moines, IA registration event/renewal 1999-06-02 ankeny, IA 28774 title 2000-09-28 ankeny, IA registration event/renewal 2001-09-14 ankeny, IA registration event/renewal 2002-09-26 ankeny, IA registration event/renewal 2003-06-24 grimes, IA 7 title 2003-06-24 grimes, IA registration event/renewal 2003-08-27 des moines, IA registration event/renewal 2004-08-13 des moines, IA registration event/renewal 2005-08-24 des moines, IA registration event/renewal Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary) Description Full Definition Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV. Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV. Auction Odometer Reading Vehicle reported the vehicle's odometer reading is from auto auction. Highlights Highlights from our Editors' Review of the 1995-2005 Chevrolet Cavalier The following summary includes recall and trouble spot information for several model years of this vehicle. Only information labeled 1995-2005 applies to this vehicle. Consumer Guide Rating N/A Pros Airbags, Standard antilock brakes, Instruments/controls, Fuel economy, Acceleration (Twin Cam engine), Visibility Cons Rear-seat head room, Seat comfort, Entry/exit (2-door models) Road Test Scores Performance 5 Fuel Economy 5 Ride Quality 3 Steering/Handling/Braking 6 Quietness 3 Controls/Materials 4 Interior Room 3 Room/Comfort (rear) 2 Cargo Capacity 3 Value within Class 3 (all scores out of 10) NHTSA Safety Ratings Front Impact, Driver 3 Front Impact, Passenger 4 (all scores out of 5) Recalls Check with the seller to ensure that the recall work was completed on these items. 1995: Missing welds in lower front-suspension control-arm assemblies can result in separation of front bushing-sleeve subassembly from control arm, resulting in loss of vehicle control. 1995-96: Front and/or rear hazard-warning lamps might not work. 1996: Accelerator cable in a few cars could be kinked, causing high pedal effort, or sticking or broken cable. 1996: If the key is held in the start position for an extended period, high current flowing through the ignition switch can melt internal switch parts. 1996: Interior lamps might come on unexpectedly while vehicle is being driven. 1996-97: Airbag could deploy inadvertently during low-speed crash or when an object
Re: [MBZ] carfax, please, anyone?
Well if the vin is 1 its USA, 2 is canada, 3 is mexico. LT Don wrote: 1G1JC5246V7281513 Especially curious as to country of manufacture. Didn't see it anywhere (yet). Thanks. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] watch this Kaleb
banned and biodiesel do not scrub attatchments. Luther Gulseth wrote: the message was identical, see the To: section. I sent it to the 4 lists I subscribe to. Linux and Mercedes blocked it, Banned and Biodiesel allowed it. What's up with this crap? On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:16:14 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are sending some sort of formatting, it will be stripped on certain lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Your injection pump
whats this all about? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the pump went out today, Saturday, at about 1 PM. they said figure 3 working days to get it.. Try the archives at this web site for info on how to set up the timing on these pumps. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com)Rusty, who sells Mercedes parts at guaranteed lowest prices, sponsors this list. Check out _www.buymbparts.com_ (http://www.buymbparts.com) for more info and good parts prices. I left feedback for you, please do the same for me when you have received the pump. Good luck Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 143 K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] carfax, please, anyone?
Yea, I should have known that. I did later find a window sticker saying it was made in somewhere Ohio. We knew about the right side impact that CarFax showed. It was a parking lot ding and the owner had the whole door replaced. Thanks for the CarFax, by the way. On 7/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if the vin is 1 its USA -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today
I watched the TV program Two Guys garage one owns a Duramax like the one you have purchased. He chipped it added a new exhaust and did other engine / transmission modifications. Did not pay enough attention but he made a hell a lot power with it. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:37 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today so why can you chip the cummins or the powerchoak, it does something to the timing and you get more power and better mileage? Mike Canfield wrote: There is no increase in mileage by chipping the Duramax. It can make more power at a cost of the risk of damage and loss of mileage. Mike -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006
[MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
SoI finally re-realized my aux fan on this car has never worked. I thought of this as I was troubleshooting the #1 fuse issues I had (found a remnant of an old fuse making contact to one end on the #1 fuse holder making, I guess, a dead short...I have no idea where this piece of old fuse came from). When I was in the fuse block, I noticed there was no fuse in place for the aux fan. duh. I put the correct fuse in and, later in the day, I noticed the fan was operating. A couple of times yesterday, when I started the car after it had set for a couple of hours and cooled off (well, relative for here) the fan came on when I turned the ignition switch. The engine temp was about 135 degrees F. Now, this fan should switch on at a prescribed temperature correct? And/Or should it be on when ever the AC is on? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 175K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 30 16:25:38 2006 Received: from mailout3.parasun.com ([204.174.16.211]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7E6j-0001pF-Gv for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:25:37 + Received: from rrcs-24-39-222-124.nys.biz.rr.com ([24.39.222.124] helo=user4ykwxvt62x) by mailout3.parasun.com with smtp (Exim 4.54) id 1G7E6d-0001MH-0b for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:25:31 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:25:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:25:38 - GM says the Dmax is tuned for the best mileage it can get already. Adding the chip only adds more fuel causing higher EGT's and burnt up catalyst. Voids any warranty as well. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today so why can you chip the cummins or the powerchoak, it does something to the timing and you get more power and better mileage? Mike Canfield wrote: There is no increase in mileage by chipping the Duramax. It can make more power at a cost of the risk of damage and loss of mileage. Mike -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So today I met 123 Club Vinny
Well, that post got YOUR attention, Klebbie. BTW your name certainly came up in my chat with Club123Vinny. Something about a LWB 123. But he seems to like the MBCA forums. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:41 AM WOW, that was an informative post denial. George Gregory wrote: At an MBCA event. Seems to be an ok guy.
Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today
Guys at work, with too much disposable income, get chips, pillar mounted gauges, bypass oil filters, H2O/nitrous kits, 6 exhausts with exhasut gas pyrometers, jake brakes, shocks I couldn't fit in my trunk, and tires and wheels big enough to cause an eclipse when they roll up at a light. They haul/tow nothing. It's nuts. I say have what you need and use what you have. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today I watched the TV program Two Guys garage one owns a Duramax like the one you have purchased. He chipped it added a new exhaust and did other engine / transmission modifications. Did not pay enough attention but he made a hell a lot power with it. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:37 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today so why can you chip the cummins or the powerchoak, it does something to the timing and you get more power and better mileage? Mike Canfield wrote: There is no increase in mileage by chipping the Duramax. It can make more power at a cost of the risk of damage and loss of mileage. Mike -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] carfax, please, anyone?
Lordstown. The plant that was built to manufacture the Chevy Vega ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: LT Don Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:53 AM Yea, I should have known that. I did later find a window sticker saying it was made in somewhere Ohio. We knew about the right side impact that CarFax showed. It was a parking lot ding and the owner had the whole door replaced. Thanks for the CarFax, by the way.
Re: [MBZ] So today I met 123 Club Vinny
yea, should have kept that car George Gregory wrote: Well, that post got YOUR attention, Klebbie. BTW your name certainly came up in my chat with Club123Vinny. Something about a LWB 123. But he seems to like the MBCA forums. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:41 AM WOW, that was an informative post denial. George Gregory wrote: At an MBCA event. Seems to be an ok guy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] So today I met 123 Club Vinny
He's wicked busy moderating several of those forums. Hey GG, got your power back? Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] So today I met 123 Club Vinny Well, that post got YOUR attention, Klebbie. BTW your name certainly came up in my chat with Club123Vinny. Something about a LWB 123. But he seems to like the MBCA forums. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:41 AM WOW, that was an informative post denial. George Gregory wrote: At an MBCA event. Seems to be an ok guy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
The fan is operated via a relay. Said relay is activated by engine temp (switch is in the thermostat housing on your car) AND via a temperature switch on the receiver/dryer. The fan may be two speed, in which case there is a large ceramic resistor somewhere, and there will be two relays instead of one. You will have to check a wiring diagram to see for sure. Likely the relay (or relays) are bad or you have a worn or loose wire grounding. You can test the temperature switch wiring by pulling the connector off the switch in the thermostat housing and grounding it. Fan must come on in high speed. The AC wiring can be tested by jumping the wires on the temp switch (there are two switches, one for low pressure and the other for the fan), fan should come on in low speed if a two speed. I would look for worn or frayed wires first, as this is the most likely cause of goofy operation. Relays would be the second thing to look at (if they stick or fail to make contact). Switches can be bad, too. Peter
Re: [MBZ] carfax, please, anyone?
That would be the town. On 7/30/06, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lordstown. The plant that was built to manufacture the Chevy Vega _ -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
On Sun, 30 Jul, Mike Canfield wrote - I'll agree with that!! That girl is SMOKIN' HOT as we say on this side of the pond. She drives, she blows stuff up, she's pretty funny, she's very pretty, she's got one heck of a body and she can aim a cannonWhat more could a man ask for in a woman? The ability to change a B2 piston maybe, or to replace the sunroof tilt lifting arms on a W210 ? Howard Fulford (single !!) Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I'm betting she could handle that. Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Fulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? On Sun, 30 Jul, Mike Canfield wrote - I'll agree with that!! That girl is SMOKIN' HOT as we say on this side of the pond. She drives, she blows stuff up, she's pretty funny, she's very pretty, she's got one heck of a body and she can aim a cannonWhat more could a man ask for in a woman? The ability to change a B2 piston maybe, or to replace the sunroof tilt lifting arms on a W210 ? Howard Fulford (single !!) Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So today I met 123 Club Vinny
Thanks for asking, but my house never lost it. Always a cool 72 degrees inside my house! Of course the ex's house was without power, so I had my BU'09 daughter as a visitor for 6 days. But that was a good thing! ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: Bob Rentfro Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 11:35 AM He's wicked busy moderating several of those forums. Hey GG, got your power back? Bob Rentfro
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I'm betting she could handle that. Yeah, with dynamite! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
A couple of times yesterday, when I started the car after it had set for a couple of hours and cooled off (well, relative for here) the fan came on when I turned the ignition switch. The engine temp was about 135 degrees F. Now, this fan should switch on at a prescribed temperature correct? And/Or should it be on when ever the AC is on? The usual cause of that is that the AC is on at start and the engine compartment has gotten a good heat soak, causing a high pressure in the AC system. It usually shuts off pretty soon as things stabilize. The aux fan is _not_ normally on all the time the AC is on, by design, and I'd agree with this. Because the AC compressor is on such a large percentage of the time, unless EC is selected, the aux fan would run too much. It's not rated for continuous duty, in that it'd wear out pretty quickly if it were on all the time. So it's wired to only come on when needed. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I still can't understand how they found that great W124 station wagon for £695 - at current conversion that's $1294.47. I'd buy it in a minute unless there's 400+k (I know, just broken in good) without any records. By the video, it looks like it runs pretty good. Oh well - another nice W124 becomes Kalebmeat. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? I'm betting she could handle that. Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Fulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? On Sun, 30 Jul, Mike Canfield wrote - I'll agree with that!! That girl is SMOKIN' HOT as we say on this side of the pond. She drives, she blows stuff up, she's pretty funny, she's very pretty, she's got one heck of a body and she can aim a cannonWhat more could a man ask for in a woman? The ability to change a B2 piston maybe, or to replace the sunroof tilt lifting arms on a W210 ? Howard Fulford (single !!) Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
Hi Bob, My 91 300D does that too - even when starting cold in the morning - turn key and wait for GPs, the fan comes on - startup - it eventually goes off. I've read Peters well written troubleshooting comments but have not gone looking for trouble as the fans works when it gets hot just like I want it to -- with temps in the upper 90s I had to idle for a few minutes - with the aux fans on the temp stayed at 80C - the temp of my thermostat. I was amazed at the capacity of the cooling system - AC running, at idle - and no rise in temp. Glad you found the cause of the blown fuses - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness SoI finally re-realized my aux fan on this car has never worked. I thought of this as I was troubleshooting the #1 fuse issues I had (found a remnant of an old fuse making contact to one end on the #1 fuse holder making, I guess, a dead short...I have no idea where this piece of old fuse came from). When I was in the fuse block, I noticed there was no fuse in place for the aux fan. duh. I put the correct fuse in and, later in the day, I noticed the fan was operating. A couple of times yesterday, when I started the car after it had set for a couple of hours and cooled off (well, relative for here) the fan came on when I turned the ignition switch. The engine temp was about 135 degrees F. Now, this fan should switch on at a prescribed temperature correct? And/Or should it be on when ever the AC is on? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 175K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
Makes sense. It was stupid hot in the garage when I went out there to leave yesterday. She always pulls here blazing hot Acura in and instantly closes the garage door (she's one of those). Even though I have an old oscillating fan movie air around it can't do much good unless you leave the door open for a spell. Didn't think of heat soak. I want to win the powerball on Wednesday so I can buy a nice '85 123 turbo and so I can move somewhere that has seasons. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness A couple of times yesterday, when I started the car after it had set for a couple of hours and cooled off (well, relative for here) the fan came on when I turned the ignition switch. The engine temp was about 135 degrees F. Now, this fan should switch on at a prescribed temperature correct? And/Or should it be on when ever the AC is on? The usual cause of that is that the AC is on at start and the engine compartment has gotten a good heat soak, causing a high pressure in the AC system. It usually shuts off pretty soon as things stabilize. The aux fan is _not_ normally on all the time the AC is on, by design, and I'd agree with this. Because the AC compressor is on such a large percentage of the time, unless EC is selected, the aux fan would run too much. It's not rated for continuous duty, in that it'd wear out pretty quickly if it were on all the time. So it's wired to only come on when needed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I would guess that it was either because ofthe fuel economy, lackthereof by UK standards, age and quite possibly that it had some fault that didn't allow it to pass the MOT. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
Thanks Jim, that explains the one time occurrence I experienced last week when it was 123 degrees and lots of shutoff and start errands. Happened just that one time and been working great ever since. John Freer On 7/30/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of times yesterday, when I started the car after it had set for a couple of hours and cooled off (well, relative for here) the fan came on when I turned the ignition switch. The engine temp was about 135 degrees F. Now, this fan should switch on at a prescribed temperature correct? And/Or should it be on when ever the AC is on? The usual cause of that is that the AC is on at start and the engine compartment has gotten a good heat soak, causing a high pressure in the AC system. It usually shuts off pretty soon as things stabilize. The aux fan is _not_ normally on all the time the AC is on, by design, and I'd agree with this. Because the AC compressor is on such a large percentage of the time, unless EC is selected, the aux fan would run too much. It's not rated for continuous duty, in that it'd wear out pretty quickly if it were on all the time. So it's wired to only come on when needed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
Bob Rentfro wrote: SoI finally re-realized my aux fan on this car has never worked. I thought of this as I was troubleshooting the #1 fuse issues I had (found a remnant of an old fuse making contact to one end on the #1 fuse holder making, I guess, a dead short...I have no idea where this piece of old fuse came from). When I was in the fuse block, I noticed there was no fuse in place for the aux fan. duh. I put the correct fuse in and, later in the day, I noticed the fan was operating. A couple of times yesterday, when I started the car after it had set for a couple of hours and cooled off (well, relative for here) the fan came on when I turned the ignition switch. The engine temp was about 135 degrees F. Now, this fan should switch on at a prescribed temperature correct? And/Or should it be on when ever the AC is on? In older Mercedes (before the mid '80s), the switch in the compressor circuit that turns the aux fan ON is not a pressure switch, but is actually a temperature switch (temperature and pressure in a closed system are correlated). Most of the so called high pressure switches turn on at about 50-55 deg. C. If the engine compartment is heat soaked in the absence of little or no active cooling, the engine compartment can easily reach 50+ deg. C and that can trigger the aux fan as soon as the ignition switch is turned on! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
On 7/30/06 1:27 PM, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though I have an old oscillating fan movie air around it can't do much good unless you leave the door open for a spell. I thought I was the only one silly enough to have a fan on in my garage. -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (104k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +--
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
Sie sind, Herr Doktor korrekt. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness Bob Rentfro wrote: SoI finally re-realized my aux fan on this car has never worked. I thought of this as I was troubleshooting the #1 fuse issues I had (found a remnant of an old fuse making contact to one end on the #1 fuse holder making, I guess, a dead short...I have no idea where this piece of old fuse came from). When I was in the fuse block, I noticed there was no fuse in place for the aux fan. duh. I put the correct fuse in and, later in the day, I noticed the fan was operating. A couple of times yesterday, when I started the car after it had set for a couple of hours and cooled off (well, relative for here) the fan came on when I turned the ignition switch. The engine temp was about 135 degrees F. Now, this fan should switch on at a prescribed temperature correct? And/Or should it be on when ever the AC is on? In older Mercedes (before the mid '80s), the switch in the compressor circuit that turns the aux fan ON is not a pressure switch, but is actually a temperature switch (temperature and pressure in a closed system are correlated). Most of the so called high pressure switches turn on at about 50-55 deg. C. If the engine compartment is heat soaked in the absence of little or no active cooling, the engine compartment can easily reach 50+ deg. C and that can trigger the aux fan as soon as the ignition switch is turned on! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
Nope...it's always on. I hope that the attic fan from my in-law's house is include in the stuff I get to schlep from IL to AZ in Sept. That pig could move some air. I would install it in my garage. Looking forward to looking off of the interstate and seeing new Busch Stadium as I pass through. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness On 7/30/06 1:27 PM, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though I have an old oscillating fan movie air around it can't do much good unless you leave the door open for a spell. I thought I was the only one silly enough to have a fan on in my garage. -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (104k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness
On 7/30/06 2:41 PM, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking forward to looking off of the interstate and seeing new Busch Stadium as I pass through. You can almost touch it from I-64 just before you cross the bridge to Illinois. Yes it thatclose. -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (104k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +--
[MBZ] How about a W-210 gasser?
Can't find much about this in my archives, maybe someone can tell me... A friend is considering a 1999 E-320 for his kids. It has 160k mi on it and he expects to get it for a good price. It looks good and has airbags and safety features all over the place. I looked it over and didn't see any rust around the front suspension. But that is the only issue I know about for the W-210. How about the M112 engine? Are they sound? Are there any issues I should look for or warn him about? Thanks, Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300Dx2 '85 300D '80 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Cavalier's mile long built in defect list
Lordstown. The plant that was built to manufacture the Chevy Vega... That explains everything. Bad genes. RLE
Re: [MBZ] old 124 wagon
I still can't understand how they found that great W124 station wagon for ?695 - at current conversion that's $1294.47. I'd buy it in a minute unless there's 400+k (I know, just broken in good) without any records.. It was a rustbucket that probably couldn't pass the MOT. Did you not notice the rust holes? RLE
Re: [MBZ] Cavalier's mile long built in defect list
Shame the Cavalier wasn't defect-free, like the new Benz line! (sic) On 7/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lordstown. The plant that was built to manufacture the Chevy Vega... That explains everything. Bad genes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
