Re: [MBZ] carfax, please, anyone?

2006-07-31 Thread Mitch Haley
LT Don wrote:
 
 1G1JC5246V7281513
 

1st digit vin is country of origin.

1 is USA (probably Lordstown)
2 is Canada
3 is Mexico



Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Jeff Zedic wrote:
 
 I would guess that it was either because ofthe fuel economy, lackthereof
 by UK standards, age and quite possibly that it had some fault that
 didn't allow it to pass the MOT.

I thought it was road ready, 695 pounds with tax, tags, etc from what I
recall Vicki saying at the start. 

Don't you love the way they keep saying old Benz were well built, pre-93
Benz were well built... so as to avoid implying that the Germans make 
good cars now. 

Kaleb:
I reposted it because I had been unable to get all of it before it was taken
down the last time. Somebody reposted it on YouTube, Dave M told me, and I
passed the new links on to the list.



[MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread Hendrik Riessen

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250013285473ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1
Any takers?
Would make a great addition for the bar/pool room/garage or your AMG Merc. 



[MBZ] cheap cheap cheap

2006-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
One of the local car lots had a couple of MB's, and they leave them 
unlocked, so I stopped by and looked.  03 or so E320, I cant believe how 
cheap the interior was.  Sunvisors were just cheap cloth with cheap 
little flip open mirrors. The wood appeared to be fake, plastic 
everywhere.  Cheap cheap cheap.  That was nothing compared to the CLK 
they had.  It has cloth seats, seemed exactly like a neon or something. 
 Geez.  At least the stereos sounded nice.

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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] old 124 wagon

2006-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

no, I didnt notice any.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I still can't understand how they found that great W124 station wagon for
?695 - at current conversion that's $1294.47.  I'd buy it in a minute unless
there's 400+k (I know, just broken in good) without any records..



It was a rustbucket that probably couldn't pass the MOT. Did you not notice 
the rust holes?


RLE





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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] they are on crack

2006-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1981-mercedes-benz-300-sd-turbo-diesel-w126_W0QQitemZ330013345759QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] canadian 124D

2006-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-Mercedes-Benz-300D-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ260014914852QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] cheap SDL

2006-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-87-Mercedes-300SDL-turbo-diesel-Biodiesel_W0QQitemZ290013566082QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] another cheap SDL

2006-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SDL-TURBO-NO-RESERVE-CLEAN-NEEDS-TLC-5-DAY-AUCTION_W0QQitemZ250013328725QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] 126 AC Schematic

2006-07-31 Thread Scott Ritchey
Does anyone have the schematic for the 126 (82 300 SD) climate control
pushbutton box?  

Mine has gotten a little flakey lately so thought I might try some focused
troubleshooting vs. blind resoldering.  The basic symptom is that it takes
quite a while until it really starts cooling well.  After that, it
alternates blowing really cold or so-so (seems like fluctuations are too
large).  

This is not an emergency and I have a spare CC control box I may try, but
thought I'd query the list first.  Cheers.

Scott Ritchey
Kittrell NC
1982 300SD 220K
1979 300TD 350K
 

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Re: [MBZ] 126 AC Schematic

2006-07-31 Thread LT Don

I am very confident that Marshall (and perhaps others) can point you to the
appropriate URL.

Don

On 7/30/06, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Does anyone have the schematic for the 126 (82 300 SD) climate control
pushbutton box?

Mine has gotten a little flakey lately so thought I might try some focused
troubleshooting vs. blind resoldering.  The basic symptom is that it takes
quite a while until it really starts cooling well.  After that, it
alternates blowing really cold or so-so (seems like fluctuations are too
large).

This is not an emergency and I have a spare CC control box I may try, but
thought I'd query the list first.  Cheers.

Scott Ritchey
Kittrell NC
1982 300SD 220K
1979 300TD 350K


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Re: [MBZ] 126 AC Schematic

2006-07-31 Thread Marshall Booth

Scott Ritchey wrote:

Does anyone have the schematic for the 126 (82 300 SD) climate control
pushbutton box?  


Mine has gotten a little flakey lately so thought I might try some focused
troubleshooting vs. blind resoldering.  The basic symptom is that it takes
quite a while until it really starts cooling well.  After that, it
alternates blowing really cold or so-so (seems like fluctuations are too
large).  


This is not an emergency and I have a spare CC control box I may try, but
thought I'd query the list first.  Cheers.


Mercedes has never made the schematic of the climate control unit 
available. Unless you have the skill to reverse engineer it, you're 
likely out of luck.


Most problems can be cured just by resoldering the connections!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 126 AC Schematic

2006-07-31 Thread LT Don

Damn. Disregard my previous post.  :-)

On 7/30/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Scott Ritchey wrote:
 Does anyone have the schematic for the 126 (82 300 SD) climate control
 pushbutton box?

 Mine has gotten a little flakey lately so thought I might try some
focused
 troubleshooting vs. blind resoldering.  The basic symptom is that it
takes
 quite a while until it really starts cooling well.  After that, it
 alternates blowing really cold or so-so (seems like fluctuations are too
 large).

 This is not an emergency and I have a spare CC control box I may try,
but
 thought I'd query the list first.  Cheers.

Mercedes has never made the schematic of the climate control unit
available. Unless you have the skill to reverse engineer it, you're
likely out of luck.

Most problems can be cured just by resoldering the connections!

Marshall
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190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)

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Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:59:29 +0930 Hendrik Riessen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250013285473ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1
 Any takers?

I don't know what the conversion from AU $ to US $ is, but I'm fairly
certain that AU $1,000,000 is a fair piece of change.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread LT Don

Hendrik --

Speaking of AMG ...

I live in a small rural Iowa town in the midst of the agricultural region (
http://www.jeffersoniowa.com/).  There is a law firm across the street from
my office and we occasionally see an M-Class Benz or a Lexus SUV parked
there, driven in from the big city by an attorney.  We do have a late
model E320 and a G-class here in town but both are owned by an old fart
retired farmer and his wife. I have a 240D and our auditor drives a 10 year
old (?) C-class gasser. That is it for our local Benz community.

Last Thursday afternoon, I looked out our office window and saw what I think
was a late 70s or early 80s S-Class (might have been an E-Class, couldn't
swear in a court of law).

A very nice bronze-brown in color. Had this wee tit of a spoiler on the back
of the trunk. Custom wheels (but very nice, discrete sort of custom wheels)
on what seemed to be factory size tires. I did not notice any sort of
spoiler in the front but I didn't have a good look at the front from my
angle.

I wandered across the road to see what manner of beast this might be. The
trunk emblem was not much help, for it said only AMG.

The more I looked at the car the more it looked to deserve a speeding ticket
just sitting there parked. It was either a W124 or a W126 -- I don't have
enough experience to tell between the two unless I have a tape measure.

I was in absolute lust.

I asked our administrative assistant to watch to see who was driving it and
what building he left. As luck would have it, the car disappeared while she
took a run to the loo. I went to the law office to ask who might own the car
and they gave me blank stares -- no one had been in and out all morning. The
only other shop there is a barber. Perhaps someone popped in from out of
town for a haircut?

D.




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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250013285473ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1
Any takers?
Would make a great addition for the bar/pool room/garage or your AMG Merc.

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Re: [MBZ] cheap SDL

2006-07-31 Thread Rick Knoble

They are all cheap when there is six plus days left
Here is my search for cheap MB diesels.
http://motors.search-desc.ebay.com/diesel-deisel-diesil-deisil-deisal-diesal-turbo-e300d-300d-190d-300cd-300sd-300sdl-300td-300dt-240d-300-d-240-d-300-sd_Mercedes-Benz_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfclZ3QQfromZR9QQfromZR9QQfrppZ200QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQftZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ9QQftsZ2QQpriceZ1QQsacatZ6311QQsacqyopZgeQQsacurZ0QQsamcmZ6001QQsaprchiZ1222QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZQ28dieselQ2cQ20deiselQ2cQ20diesilQ2cQ20deisilQ2cQ20deisalQ2cQ20diesalQ2cQ20turboQ2aQ2cQ20e300dQ2cQ20300dQ2cQ20190dQ2cQ20300cdQ2cQ20300sdQ2cQ20300sdlQ2cQ20300tdQ2cQ20300dtQ2cQ20240dQ2cQ20Q22300Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22240Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22300Q20sdQ22Q29QQsspagenameZSTRKQ3aMEFSRCHQ3aSRCH

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 





[MBZ] eBay searches [was: Re: cheap SDL]

2006-07-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:28:52 -0500 Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 They are all cheap when there is six plus days left
 Here is my search for cheap MB diesels.
 http://motors.search-desc.ebay.com/diesel-deisel-diesil-deisil-deisal-diesal-turbo-e300d-300d-190d-300cd-300sd-300sdl-300td-300dt-240d-300-d-240-d-300-sd_Mercedes-Benz_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfclZ3QQfromZR9QQfromZR9QQfrppZ200QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQftZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ9QQftsZ2QQpriceZ1QQsacatZ6311QQsacqyopZgeQQsacurZ0QQsamcmZ6001QQsaprchiZ1222QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZQ28dieselQ2cQ20deiselQ2cQ20diesilQ2cQ20deisilQ2cQ20deisalQ2cQ20diesalQ2cQ20turboQ2aQ2cQ20e300dQ2cQ20300dQ2cQ20190dQ2cQ20300cdQ2cQ20300sdQ2cQ20300sdlQ2cQ20300tdQ2cQ20300dtQ2cQ20240dQ2cQ20Q22300Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22240Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22300Q20sdQ22Q29QQsspagenameZSTRKQ3aMEFSRCHQ3aSRCH



So how do you get it to restrict the search to Ending within 3 days, Max
Price: $1,222.00 ? (How did you go about setting up the search?)


Craig



Re: [MBZ] eBay searches [was: Re: cheap SDL]

2006-07-31 Thread LT Don

You don't know the secret handshake yet?

On 7/30/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:28:52 -0500 Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 They are all cheap when there is six plus days left
 Here is my search for cheap MB diesels.

http://motors.search-desc.ebay.com/diesel-deisel-diesil-deisil-deisal-diesal-turbo-e300d-300d-190d-300cd-300sd-300sdl-300td-300dt-240d-300-d-240-d-300-sd_Mercedes-Benz_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfclZ3QQfromZR9QQfromZR9QQfrppZ200QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQftZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ9QQftsZ2QQpriceZ1QQsacatZ6311QQsacqyopZgeQQsacurZ0QQsamcmZ6001QQsaprchiZ1222QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZQ28dieselQ2cQ20deiselQ2cQ20diesilQ2cQ20deisilQ2cQ20deisalQ2cQ20diesalQ2cQ20turboQ2aQ2cQ20e300dQ2cQ20300dQ2cQ20190dQ2cQ20300cdQ2cQ20300sdQ2cQ20300sdlQ2cQ20300tdQ2cQ20300dtQ2cQ20240dQ2cQ20Q22300Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22240Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22300Q20sdQ22Q29QQsspagenameZSTRKQ3aMEFSRCHQ3aSRCH



So how do you get it to restrict the search to Ending within 3 days, Max
Price: $1,222.00 ? (How did you go about setting up the search?)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 201 status

2006-07-31 Thread redghost
I will be heading out and if they are there, I will salvage them
 

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  There is a white 201 waiting to hit the yard at PnP.  It was swiped on 
  passenger side, but looks to be ok on the front.  Drooling at it 
  sitting in the pen until the heat addled my brain.
 
 I'm looking for a decent pair of headlamps at the PnP price.
 
 -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread woodlandtaylors
It's around $700K US so crack is abundant there too! I'll be there early
September hope it's not sold so I can score a bargain

Dennis T

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On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

I don't know what the conversion from AU $ to US $ is, but I'm fairly
certain that AU $1,000,000 is a fair piece of change.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread Jeff Zedic
It's really sad what unusual licence plates go for in theUK/Oz..and then 
there's the sad bastard with too much money that buys it.hahaha


Jeff Zedic
Toronto



Re: [MBZ] eBay searches [was: Re: cheap SDL]

2006-07-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:53:54 -0400 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You don't know the secret handshake yet?

I apparently do not. Please enlighten me.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] eBay searches [was: Re: cheap SDL]

2006-07-31 Thread LT Don

I will as soon as I learn it.

Actually, it is but the URL from a search. EBay motors lets you put in
parameters on which to search.

On 7/31/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:53:54 -0400 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You don't know the secret handshake yet?

I apparently do not. Please enlighten me.


Craig

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[MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread woodlandtaylors
Folks,

The daughters new (to her) 1995 E300D has quit on her a couple of times, it
left her stranded the other night. She thought she had run out of fuel
although the gage said she had a bit under 1/2 a tank. She did not attempt
to start it in case it was out of fuel. She returned to the vehicle the next
day with 5 gallons of diesel poured it in the tank and it started
immediately so it was not out of fuel.

The gage proved accurate as I drained about 10 gals out of it. I replaced
the tank screen, disassembled and cleaned the level sensor, replaced both
fuel filters, filled the high pressure one with diesel purge, added 3
gallons of clean diesel to the tank. She drove into Woodland a mile or so
away, filled the tank it took 20 gallons and on the way home it quit. She
called me I drove down the hill to her, opened the stop knob on the high
pressure filter a bit more it started and she drove home and up the steep
hill to my place without an issue -- she does not trust the car at this
stage. So where should the 'stop screw' be positioned at? 

I changed the overload (overvoltage) relay drove it in Italian fashion in
the hills behind us never missed a beat, the cruise started working reliably
for me however she tried it today and she said it was useless.

It does have the Benz and an after market security system.

Any thoughts,

Dennis T

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Re: [MBZ] cheap cheap cheap

2006-07-31 Thread kevin kraly
It's been said many times before.  They just don't make 'em like they used 
to.  They've got airbags everywhere, ABS and other modern gadgetry, but no 
quality, a sad, sad state of affairs.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela 





Re: [MBZ] old 124 wagon

2006-07-31 Thread Zeitgeist

Neither did I.  Chaps my ass; what a waste.

On 7/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


no, I didnt notice any.

Casey

Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
'84 300D (214k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] Cavalier's mile long built in defect list

2006-07-31 Thread Zeitgeist

I think you should be distinctive and pronounce the car name in the original
French: Please step aside sir, ah drive a Chev-ro-lay Cav-ahl-ee-ay
Respect is bound to come your way.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
'84 300D (214k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread Zeitgeist

Dennis, IIRC the OM606 series is notorious for having fuel leaks with the
fittings near the fuel filter(s), which allows fuel out and/or air into the
system.  I'd check to make sure all these fittings are tight and install new
o-rings and hoses.  Unfortunately, that's all I got for ya.

Good luck!

On 7/30/06, woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Folks,

The daughters new (to her) 1995 E300D has quit on her a couple of times,
it
left her stranded the other night. She thought she had run out of fuel
although the gage said she had a bit under 1/2 a tank. She did not attempt
to start it in case it was out of fuel. She returned to the vehicle the
next
day with 5 gallons of diesel poured it in the tank and it started
immediately so it was not out of fuel.

Casey

Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
'84 300D (214k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread Hendrik Riessen

You must have seen the famous AMG ghost car:-)
Seriuosly have a look here 
http://www.mercedes-damien.com/historique/amg%20sous%20menu/AMG%20W126/amg%20w126.htm 
was it something like this?


- Original Message - 
From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here



Hendrik --

Speaking of AMG ...

I live in a small rural Iowa town in the midst of the agricultural region 
(
http://www.jeffersoniowa.com/).  There is a law firm across the street 
from

my office and we occasionally see an M-Class Benz or a Lexus SUV parked
there, driven in from the big city by an attorney.  We do have a late
model E320 and a G-class here in town but both are owned by an old fart
retired farmer and his wife. I have a 240D and our auditor drives a 10 
year

old (?) C-class gasser. That is it for our local Benz community.

Last Thursday afternoon, I looked out our office window and saw what I 
think

was a late 70s or early 80s S-Class (might have been an E-Class, couldn't
swear in a court of law).

A very nice bronze-brown in color. Had this wee tit of a spoiler on the 
back
of the trunk. Custom wheels (but very nice, discrete sort of custom 
wheels)

on what seemed to be factory size tires. I did not notice any sort of
spoiler in the front but I didn't have a good look at the front from my
angle.

I wandered across the road to see what manner of beast this might be. The
trunk emblem was not much help, for it said only AMG.

The more I looked at the car the more it looked to deserve a speeding 
ticket

just sitting there parked. It was either a W124 or a W126 -- I don't have
enough experience to tell between the two unless I have a tape measure.

I was in absolute lust.

I asked our administrative assistant to watch to see who was driving it 
and
what building he left. As luck would have it, the car disappeared while 
she
took a run to the loo. I went to the law office to ask who might own the 
car
and they gave me blank stares -- no one had been in and out all morning. 
The

only other shop there is a barber. Perhaps someone popped in from out of
town for a haircut?

D.




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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250013285473ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1
Any takers?
Would make a great addition for the bar/pool room/garage or your AMG 
Merc.


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Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Like anyone would be stupid enough to fork that kind of cash out on 
anything over one cheesy photo to a zero feedback seller??
Who knows, it might happen. That kind of money and brains aren't known 
to travel in the same circles.


--Robert

Hendrik Riessen wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250013285473ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1
Any takers?
Would make a great addition for the bar/pool room/garage or your AMG Merc. 


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Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread LT Don

BINGO --- that is exactly what I saw.

Do I win a prize?


On 7/31/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You must have seen the famous AMG ghost car:-)
Seriuosly have a look here

http://www.mercedes-damien.com/historique/amg%20sous%20menu/AMG%20W126/amg%20w126.htm
was it something like this?

- Original Message -
From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here


 Hendrik --

 Speaking of AMG ...

 I live in a small rural Iowa town in the midst of the agricultural
region
 (
 http://www.jeffersoniowa.com/).  There is a law firm across the street
 from
 my office and we occasionally see an M-Class Benz or a Lexus SUV parked
 there, driven in from the big city by an attorney.  We do have a late
 model E320 and a G-class here in town but both are owned by an old fart
 retired farmer and his wife. I have a 240D and our auditor drives a 10
 year
 old (?) C-class gasser. That is it for our local Benz community.

 Last Thursday afternoon, I looked out our office window and saw what I
 think
 was a late 70s or early 80s S-Class (might have been an E-Class,
couldn't
 swear in a court of law).

 A very nice bronze-brown in color. Had this wee tit of a spoiler on the
 back
 of the trunk. Custom wheels (but very nice, discrete sort of custom
 wheels)
 on what seemed to be factory size tires. I did not notice any sort of
 spoiler in the front but I didn't have a good look at the front from my
 angle.

 I wandered across the road to see what manner of beast this might be.
The
 trunk emblem was not much help, for it said only AMG.

 The more I looked at the car the more it looked to deserve a speeding
 ticket
 just sitting there parked. It was either a W124 or a W126 -- I don't
have
 enough experience to tell between the two unless I have a tape measure.

 I was in absolute lust.

 I asked our administrative assistant to watch to see who was driving it
 and
 what building he left. As luck would have it, the car disappeared while
 she
 took a run to the loo. I went to the law office to ask who might own the
 car
 and they gave me blank stares -- no one had been in and out all morning.
 The
 only other shop there is a barber. Perhaps someone popped in from out of
 town for a haircut?

 D.




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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250013285473ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1
 Any takers?
 Would make a great addition for the bar/pool room/garage or your AMG
 Merc.

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Re: [MBZ] Cavalier's mile long built in defect list

2006-07-31 Thread LT Don

Daughter did take three years of French in high school in high school and is
going to major in anthropology. Maybe you have discovered the topic for her
Master's Thesis in six years!

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I think you should be distinctive and pronounce the car name in the
original
French: Please step aside sir, ah drive a Chev-ro-lay Cav-ahl-ee-ay
Respect is bound to come your way.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
'84 300D (214k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread redghost

And when the return hoses leack, you can get about a quart of fuel filling the 
injecter holes.  Had to replace hose today.  What a mess.  BioD eats the foam 
gasket on the useless black plastic doohickey.

clay 

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 Dennis, IIRC the OM606 series is notorious for having fuel leaks with the
 fittings near the fuel filter(s), which allows fuel out and/or air into the
 system.  I'd check to make sure all these fittings are tight and install new
 o-rings and hoses.  Unfortunately, that's all I got for ya.
 
 Good luck!
 
 On 7/30/06, woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Folks,
 
  The daughters new (to her) 1995 E300D has quit on her a couple of times,
  it
  left her stranded the other night. She thought she had run out of fuel
  although the gage said she had a bit under 1/2 a tank. She did not attempt
  to start it in case it was out of fuel. She returned to the vehicle the
  next
  day with 5 gallons of diesel poured it in the tank and it started
  immediately so it was not out of fuel.
 
  Casey
 Olympia, WA
 Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
 '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
 '84 300D (214k)
 Gashuffer:
 '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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[MBZ] Another for Ed Booher

2006-07-31 Thread redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/187947192.html

all for $500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/car/188177202.html

$300 for a 220b

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/187335612.html

This one is for Jim Cathey

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/186955886.html

Another one for Ed

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/186777420.html

Jim Cathey wanted some 201 goodness

Thought this would make for some intersting reading for the people in need of 
old cars or parts.  

clay



[MBZ] OT : eBay searches [was: Re: cheap SDL]

2006-07-31 Thread Rick Knoble

So how do you get it to restrict the search to Ending within 3 days, Max
Price: $1,222.00 ? (How did you go about setting up the search?)


Those search parameters are in the left side panel (frame?) of any initial 
eBay search. The panel is yellow. At the bottom of the panel, below the 
show items button is a link that says Customize options displayed above. 
Click that link (the word customize) and it will take you to a page where 
you can add and subtract certain search parameters, I.E. items within 200 
miles, items ending in two days, items priced from 0- 1222 dollars. Another 
search trick is to check the box under the search labeled Search title AND 
description


I want to say that eBay uses a Boolean type search engine. I could be 
mistaken on the correct name. A few features of how it works are these. In 
any given search if you use quotation marks it will search for that 
particular combination of  characters in that combination only. I.E. if 
searching for a 300 D you would search 300 d . Use of parenthesis. Using 
parenthesis is using the OR function of the search engine. Say, for instance 
you are searching for a dodge with a Cummins or hemi engine. your search 
would be something like dodge (Cummins, hemi) . Use of the wildcard. The 
wildcard character * is used to symbolize ANY combination of characters 
following a combination of two characters. If you are searching for a 
Chevrolet, you know that some people call them Chevy. To include both 
variations of this and any other string of characters beginning with chev, 
you would use chev* .  You would be surprised at how many people misspell 
Mercedes. Finding one of these auctions with misspellings GREATLY increases 
the chances of finding a bargain. One thing about the folks on this list, we 
love a bargain. I hope this helps someones chance of finding a bargain.

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 





Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread Luther Gulseth

HAHAHA, this is what happens when one is sick of being passed by bugs

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:09:14 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hendrik --

Speaking of AMG ...



snip



I was in absolute lust.






--
Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (236 kmi)
'82 300CD (160 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work



Re: [MBZ] Another for Ed Booher

2006-07-31 Thread Jim Cathey

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/186955886.html


That could be a contender, but I promised my wife,
and myself, nothing more like that.  For awhile!


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/186777420.html


Gasser?  Never said it was a diesel.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 50 ppm Sulphur vs 500ppm

2006-07-31 Thread Peter Merle
That's what I had thought, thanks for the confirmation . Unfortunately
its very expensive to do an oil analysis here , some $80 and not
practical ( out of touwn, courier etcetc ) so I have not had an oil
check done.
PEter

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 50 ppm Sulphur vs 500ppm


Peter Merle wrote:
 Oil companies are now introducing 50ppm sulphur diesel here in South 
 Africa and was wondering if I could extend the oil drain intervals 
 safely on my '1979 300D ?

Since 500 ppm sulfur content was introduced in the early '90s, soot 
content of the oil is USUALLY the limiting factor requiring the oil be 
changed (rather than acidic combustion by-product buildup). The 
introduction of 50 or 15 ppm fuel won't change that. The oil still needs

to be changed when it fills up with soot and lower sulfur content 
doesn't change soot production at all!

Marshall
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[MBZ] 240D brake msytery

2006-07-31 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
I just got the green goddess back from the shop last week-reman Bosch
alternator that I posted about-and it also had a hot brake smell and
significant pedal fade problem. They found no excessive wear signs on
the pads or rotors- so they flushed the brake fluid and replaced. They
drove it about 25 miles and it wouldn't heat up or fade. I drove it
around town and it seemed fine-yesterday on way to old car show, about
10 miles-hot brake smell and sever (75%) pedal loss. Limped it back to
Indy's.  Right front wheel/hub cap was hot.  So is it likely to still be
fluid? Bad caliper? Brake lines?

NOTE-A year ago I had this problem and my other Indy (now out of
business) put on reman calipers and two new front brake lines. Only have
driven it about 3K miles since then.  Is it acting up because I brought
the  300D 2.5t home?
Thanks,
Dwight



Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI

Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co.


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Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness

2006-07-31 Thread LarryT
George wrote: I thought I was the only one silly enough to have a fan on 
in my garage.


HAHAHAHA  I have a 5000btu window AC in my 2 car garage!  ;-)  I have a 
disease (similar to MS) that disabled me in '99 - and the meds I take mae me 
sensitive to heat.  My mother-in-law bought me a window unit because she 
knew how much I enjoyed messing with cars on the days I wasn't in pain and 
when it got too warm (70) I could only be out there for a few minutes at a 
time.


Bless her heart - she stayed with us during her last years - a sweet lady. 
Anyway - the AC cools the garage down to ~70F even when it's pretty warm 
outside - today I'm replacing the alternator on the '91 300D and I turned it 
around this morning before it got hot outside - it's supposed to be close to 
100 with 90%+ humidity - so I did't lose too much of the cool air.


I have insulation and sheetrock on 2 walls - obviously can't do much more 
insulating on the big garage doors - but I have 1 more wall to do - which is 
shaded by trees so it's not too bad.


Of course, I also have a fan to move the air around - whether the AC is on 
or not.  I guess 'm spoiled. - Can't imagine how I made it when young - we 
didn;t have home AC until I was 12 or so - no AC in the cars either - this 
was early 60s - and it wasn;t unusual to have a car or house without AC 
IMHO.



Anyway - ya'll stay cool - the east coast is supposed to have temps around 
100F for the next few days.  Check on the old folks - this is dangerous 
heat - I know ya'll in Nev get stuff hotter than this but it's unusual 
around here.

;-)

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Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness



On 7/30/06 1:27 PM, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Even though I have an old oscillating
fan movie air around it can't do much good unless you leave the door open
for a spell.


I thought I was the only one silly enough to have a fan on in my garage.
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Re: [MBZ] cheap cheap cheap

2006-07-31 Thread LarryT

Howdy -
   That agrees with the comments I've heard about overall low quality 
starting in about 99 or 2000 - I spoke with a guy who bought a new '00 S430 
and the paint was flaking off *all* the body panels revealing corrosion 
where the paint was - never in an accident, always garaged, very well cared 
for but MB will not off any repair - so they're being sued.



   I don't think I'd buy a MB newer than 98 -

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To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:39 PM
Subject: [MBZ] cheap cheap cheap



One of the local car lots had a couple of MB's, and they leave them
unlocked, so I stopped by and looked.  03 or so E320, I cant believe how
cheap the interior was.  Sunvisors were just cheap cloth with cheap
little flip open mirrors. The wood appeared to be fake, plastic
everywhere.  Cheap cheap cheap.  That was nothing compared to the CLK
they had.  It has cloth seats, seemed exactly like a neon or something.
 Geez.  At least the stereos sounded nice.
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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] eBay searches [was: Re: cheap SDL]

2006-07-31 Thread LarryT

Hi Craig,
   Look for the link to Advanced Search - here's one -
http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/AdvSearch?sofocus=bssacat=-1catref=C5from=R7nojspr=yfsop=1fsoo=1fcl=3frpp=50sofindtype=1pfid=
you may find a couple of levels of Detailed Searches so keep going deeper 
into the details - you''ll find all kinds of things you can limit the search 
on -


HTH's

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 11:49 PM
Subject: [MBZ] eBay searches [was: Re: cheap SDL]



On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:28:52 -0500 Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


They are all cheap when there is six plus days left
Here is my search for cheap MB diesels.
http://motors.search-desc.ebay.com/diesel-deisel-diesil-deisil-deisal-diesal-turbo-e300d-300d-190d-300cd-300sd-300sdl-300td-300dt-240d-300-d-240-d-300-sd_Mercedes-Benz_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfclZ3QQfromZR9QQfromZR9QQfrppZ200QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQftZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ9QQftsZ2QQpriceZ1QQsacatZ6311QQsacqyopZgeQQsacurZ0QQsamcmZ6001QQsaprchiZ1222QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZQ28dieselQ2cQ20deiselQ2cQ20diesilQ2cQ20deisilQ2cQ20deisalQ2cQ20diesalQ2cQ20turboQ2aQ2cQ20e300dQ2cQ20300dQ2cQ20190dQ2cQ20300cdQ2cQ20300sdQ2cQ20300sdlQ2cQ20300tdQ2cQ20300dtQ2cQ20240dQ2cQ20Q22300Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22240Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22300Q20sdQ22Q29QQsspagenameZSTRKQ3aMEFSRCHQ3aSRCH




So how do you get it to restrict the search to Ending within 3 days, Max
Price: $1,222.00 ? (How did you go about setting up the search?)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread LarryT

Hi Dennis,
I would not trust the after market security system - find it and 
disable/remove it.  The mid 90s diesels are not the thieves favorite 
vehicle - if its stolen it'll be because it was unlocked with the keys in 
it - if broken into it's because someone wants the radio or something left 
in view - of course, if it doesn't attempt to disable the vehicle then it's 
not part of the problem - perhaps it only sounds the horn and flashes the 
lights?


Try to find out how the aftermarket security system works - I'm curious how 
it might work - most work to cut the electrity but that won't do any good on 
a diesel.  If it doesn't attempt to disable the vehicle then it's not part 
of the problem -


It would be helpful to know how the car acts when it shuts down - lack of 
fuel usually stops instantly - not like a gas car that 
stumbles/runs/stumbles/etc before finally dieing from lack of fuel. Ask her 
what it did/how it acted -


Back to the engine - as we all know, a diesel will run as long as it;s 
getting fuel and air - air is not typically a problem - and you've probably 
checked/replaced the air filter. That leaves the fuel system which some 
others have described possible problems - they sound very likely to make it 
stop -- but I'm not sure it would restart after waiting a while if it was 
getting air into the system.  That usually requiures some effort to remove 
the air.


I have the workshop manual but did not see any info about the shutoff 
linkage.  My diesels stop lever's have tension on them - so it takes a bit 
of efforty to push them - I doubt the shutoff is moving enough to make the 
IP stop providing fuel


I can send you sections of the WSM if you need them - I'll keep searching 
for info in it.


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Subject: [MBZ] Engine quitting



Folks,

The daughters new (to her) 1995 E300D has quit on her a couple of times, 
it

left her stranded the other night. She thought she had run out of fuel
although the gage said she had a bit under 1/2 a tank. She did not attempt
to start it in case it was out of fuel. She returned to the vehicle the 
next

day with 5 gallons of diesel poured it in the tank and it started
immediately so it was not out of fuel.

The gage proved accurate as I drained about 10 gals out of it. I replaced
the tank screen, disassembled and cleaned the level sensor, replaced both
fuel filters, filled the high pressure one with diesel purge, added 3
gallons of clean diesel to the tank. She drove into Woodland a mile or so
away, filled the tank it took 20 gallons and on the way home it quit. She
called me I drove down the hill to her, opened the stop knob on the high
pressure filter a bit more it started and she drove home and up the steep
hill to my place without an issue -- she does not trust the car at this
stage. So where should the 'stop screw' be positioned at?

I changed the overload (overvoltage) relay drove it in Italian fashion in
the hills behind us never missed a beat, the cruise started working 
reliably

for me however she tried it today and she said it was useless.

It does have the Benz and an after market security system.

Any thoughts,

Dennis T

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Re: [MBZ] cheap SDL

2006-07-31 Thread Mike Canfield
Really.I was kinda wonderring what made them cheap with that many days 
left...


Mike
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They are all cheap when there is six plus days left
Here is my search for cheap MB diesels.
http://motors.search-desc.ebay.com/diesel-deisel-diesil-deisil-deisal-diesal-turbo-e300d-300d-190d-300cd-300sd-300sdl-300td-300dt-240d-300-d-240-d-300-sd_Mercedes-Benz_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfclZ3QQfromZR9QQfromZR9QQfrppZ200QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQftZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ9QQftsZ2QQpriceZ1QQsacatZ6311QQsacqyopZgeQQsacurZ0QQsamcmZ6001QQsaprchiZ1222QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZQ28dieselQ2cQ20deiselQ2cQ20diesilQ2cQ20deisilQ2cQ20deisalQ2cQ20diesalQ2cQ20turboQ2aQ2cQ20e300dQ2cQ20300dQ2cQ20190dQ2cQ20300cdQ2cQ20300sdQ2cQ20300sdlQ2cQ20300tdQ2cQ20300dtQ2cQ20240dQ2cQ20Q22300Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22240Q20dQ22Q2cQ20Q22300Q20sdQ22Q29QQsspagenameZSTRKQ3aMEFSRCHQ3aSRCH

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Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread Mike Canfield
No doubt.  There was a gent trying to sell a set of custom Suzuki plates in 
Oz on the Zuk list I am on.He started taking bids at like 
$400US...Ridiculous if you ask me but he said that was cheap there.


Mike
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It's really sad what unusual licence plates go for in theUK/Oz..and then
there's the sad bastard with too much money that buys it.hahaha

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] 240D brake msytery

2006-07-31 Thread LarryT

Hi Dwight -
   Even if the calipers were remanufactured it may have a piston that is 
sticking - when a brake is dragging, it's either the piston/s or the brake 
hose is deterioating internally and not allowing the fuild to return and the 
pistons to release.


I'd remove the caliper  check the pistons for ease of movement..

Good luck -

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Subject: [MBZ] 240D brake msytery



I just got the green goddess back from the shop last week-reman Bosch
alternator that I posted about-and it also had a hot brake smell and
significant pedal fade problem. They found no excessive wear signs on
the pads or rotors- so they flushed the brake fluid and replaced. They
drove it about 25 miles and it wouldn't heat up or fade. I drove it
around town and it seemed fine-yesterday on way to old car show, about
10 miles-hot brake smell and sever (75%) pedal loss. Limped it back to
Indy's.  Right front wheel/hub cap was hot.  So is it likely to still be
fluid? Bad caliper? Brake lines?

NOTE-A year ago I had this problem and my other Indy (now out of
business) put on reman calipers and two new front brake lines. Only have
driven it about 3K miles since then.  Is it acting up because I brought
the  300D 2.5t home?
Thanks,
Dwight



Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI

Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co.


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Re: [MBZ] And you thought we where all normal over here

2006-07-31 Thread Mike Canfield

Can't read it but wooohooo do they look like fun!!!  Sharp too.

Mike
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BINGO --- that is exactly what I saw.

Do I win a prize?


On 7/31/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You must have seen the famous AMG ghost car:-)
Seriuosly have a look here

http://www.mercedes-damien.com/historique/amg%20sous%20menu/AMG%20W126/amg%20w126.htm
was it something like this?

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 Hendrik --

 Speaking of AMG ...

 I live in a small rural Iowa town in the midst of the agricultural
region
 (
 http://www.jeffersoniowa.com/).  There is a law firm across the street
 from
 my office and we occasionally see an M-Class Benz or a Lexus SUV parked
 there, driven in from the big city by an attorney.  We do have a late
 model E320 and a G-class here in town but both are owned by an old fart
 retired farmer and his wife. I have a 240D and our auditor drives a 10
 year
 old (?) C-class gasser. That is it for our local Benz community.

 Last Thursday afternoon, I looked out our office window and saw what I
 think
 was a late 70s or early 80s S-Class (might have been an E-Class,
couldn't
 swear in a court of law).

 A very nice bronze-brown in color. Had this wee tit of a spoiler on the
 back
 of the trunk. Custom wheels (but very nice, discrete sort of custom
 wheels)
 on what seemed to be factory size tires. I did not notice any sort of
 spoiler in the front but I didn't have a good look at the front from my
 angle.

 I wandered across the road to see what manner of beast this might be.
The
 trunk emblem was not much help, for it said only AMG.

 The more I looked at the car the more it looked to deserve a speeding
 ticket
 just sitting there parked. It was either a W124 or a W126 -- I don't
have
 enough experience to tell between the two unless I have a tape measure.

 I was in absolute lust.

 I asked our administrative assistant to watch to see who was driving it
 and
 what building he left. As luck would have it, the car disappeared while
 she
 took a run to the loo. I went to the law office to ask who might own 
 the

 car
 and they gave me blank stares -- no one had been in and out all 
 morning.

 The
 only other shop there is a barber. Perhaps someone popped in from out 
 of

 town for a haircut?

 D.




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 Any takers?
 Would make a great addition for the bar/pool room/garage or your AMG
 Merc.

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Re: [MBZ] old 124 wagon

2006-07-31 Thread J.B. Hebert
I bet almost every 124 owner on the list would love the headlights 
:)  I dig the burlwood interior with the manual heat  A/C controls, 
as well as the snazzy cloth seats.


J.B.

At 12:58 AM 7/31/2006, you wrote:


Neither did I.  Chaps my ass; what a waste.

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 no, I didnt notice any.

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Re: [MBZ] I got my new rig today

2006-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond
I think GM is very smart to say things like that. Most people are only as smart 
as squirrels and can't think any farther ahead than yesterday and will 
regularly do things not in their best interests if left to their own devices.
   
  GM is essentially saying We won't take ANY responsibility if YOU do 
something to this engine. Thus forcing owners toward some level of personal 
responsibility something GM and I know is sorely lacking in today's society.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:36:02 -0400
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Just tossing in my 2 cents here, don't know why GM would say that since 
there are alot of engine mods out there that are perfectly safe for the 
DM. If it is done right you can up the HP and torque without doing any 
damage to the cats or the engine. There's a Bully Dog setup that 
includes the chip, larger exhaust (cat back) and all the gauges to monitor 
the engine function and exhaust temp. You can't just chip a DM you have 
to realize that when you make changes in how the engine operates there 
are other factors to consider.  
 
Harry
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Mike,

Here's a http://www.babelfish.altavista.com/tr translation not totally
correct but you can get the general idea.

Apr=E8s to have made known itself as a preparer of top-of-the-range =
Mercedes
(class S amongst other things) AMG it is attacked in W124. After having
optimized the performances of the 300 E, AMG had the idea to install V8 =
with
32 valves of the 500 and 560 AMG 32 S of the W126 series inside modest =
a
W124. This experiment strongly interressait the persons in charge for
Mercedes who dug the idea which was going to lead to the 500 E (built in
collaboration with Porsche).

6 cylinders of the 300 E inflated with 3,2 liters and 245 CV DIN! AMG
announces one cx estraordinaire of 0,26, incredible on a truck of this
gabari! The dash speed is announced with 246 km/h, the 1000 meters =
standing
start are crossed in 27 seconds! The price in 1989 was of more than 420
000,00 Frs (64 028,00 euros) without the options! This same engine was
assembled on the 190.


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Can't read it but wooohooo do they look like fun!!!  Sharp too.

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Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread John W. Reames III
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And when the return hoses leack, you can get about a quart of fuel filling 
 the injecter holes.  Had to replace hose today.  What a mess.  BioD eats the 
 foam gasket on the useless black plastic doohickey.

Yeah thats a ROYAL PITA. you need about 1/4 box of the scott rags in a 
box disposable shop towels to empty them.  BTW I found that the return 
hose from a om61x will work in a pinch on the 606.

A Real PITA is when the IP seals leak. The stealserships want to replace 
the whole IP.

-j.





[MBZ] check this out

2006-07-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://mechatronik.de/en/msl.htm

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Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness

2006-07-31 Thread Jim Cathey
I have insulation and sheetrock on 2 walls - obviously can't do much 
more
insulating on the big garage doors - but I have 1 more wall to do - 
which is

shaded by trees so it's not too bad.


My sagging door was replaced with an insulated one, it made quite a
difference.  Also, is the ceiling insulated?  That's the biggie,
usually.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D brake msytery

2006-07-31 Thread Jim Cathey
Indy's.  Right front wheel/hub cap was hot.  So is it likely to still 
be

fluid? Bad caliper? Brake lines?


Any of the above I suppose, but least likely to be fluid.  Do you
_know_ that OOB-man actually did the work?  Get that front brake
sticking and then jack it up, crack the bleeder, and see if the
brake releases.  That's a classic diagnosis of a bad hose, though
I suppose it could also be a bad master cylinder that didn't
release pressure when it ought.  Though both front brakes share
that line, so it seems less likely.  Examine the hard brake lines
for kinks and corrosion too.

-- Jim




[MBZ] Powersteering woes

2006-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh plauge and pestilence.
  The powersteering leak I should have been fixing last weekend seems to have 
bitten me on the behind today. Driving to work I noticed a very strong oil 
smell that seemed to come and go. Once parked I noticed my car had left a trail 
of red oil...
  So its gotta be a PS leak, theres not much other red oil in the car and the 
trans feels fine and hasn't been leaking.
  I presume this is the low pressure hose, it looked suspect before and I 
haven't been able to find any leaks around the pump. Does anybody know what 
size this hose is? I know Rusty sells it by the metre but I'd rather not wait 
for shipping and I've already given him a couple boat payments off this car, 
plus I need to give him a call for a voltage regulator this week anyway...
  So anyway I'd like to source this stuff locally, anybody else done this?
   
  -Curt


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 I'd like to source this stuff locally, anybody else done this?

Low pressure hydraulic hose is pretty easy to find, just take your
old stuff to NAPA or to a hydraulic specialty shop.  Around here it's
called House of Hose and is where you go to get new high-pressure
rubber put on your existing hose ends.  (That's where NAPA sends you
if you need high pressure stuff.)  It's also where you go to get
new AC hose put on.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness

2006-07-31 Thread LarryT

Hi Jim,
Yep, ceiling is insulated and both big doors are insulated.  I have just one 
more wall to do - the rear one.  But I have so much junk on shelves on that 
wall I really hesitate to get started - but I really need to finish it -


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I have insulation and sheetrock on 2 walls - obviously can't do much
more
insulating on the big garage doors - but I have 1 more wall to do -
which is
shaded by trees so it's not too bad.


My sagging door was replaced with an insulated one, it made quite a
difference.  Also, is the ceiling insulated?  That's the biggie,
usually.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness

2006-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond
I've never had a garage whatsoever. So when I replace the leaking PS hose it'll 
be out on the pavement in front of my apartment building where they frown on 
this sort of thing... 
  Starting next month I should have a 1 car garage at our new house. I'm 
excited to have someplace to work out of the rain. Thats the reason I've yet to 
replace the passenger side door check straps or get the rear windows to work 
correctly is that it seems like every time I'm all ready to work on 'em its 
raining...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:50:05 -0400
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George wrote: I thought I was the only one silly enough to have a fan 
on 
in my garage.

HAHAHAHA  I have a 5000btu window AC in my 2 car garage!  ;-)


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and rejected it, but it does not appear to be, so I will send it along 
with a warning warning warning and a slight mod to bypass the automated 
filter.  I think I like this ronpatrick guy, and have never even met 
him!  He would be a valuable addition to the list if he owned a Benz.  
His wife must be pretty cool too.]

and run it on used veggie oil.  See if I get any more letters from the 
DPS telling me my car was observed smoking excessively.

www ronpatrickstuff dot com/

Note the part at the bottom about this creation being a possible threat to 
national security.  Your Homeland Security at work!

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Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness

2006-07-31 Thread LarryT

Howdy -
   I noticed my odometer wasn't turning - I seem to recall discussion of a 
plastic gear or fitting needed to repair this - or perhaps my memory is off 
a different speedo part/problem?


   What do I need to fix the odometer?

TIA -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread ned kleinhenz

Casey:

I've always kept that little shut-off valve, on top of the fuel filter, wide
open.
Don't know if there is any reason to adjust it.

And the fuel systems on these 606's do have lots of ways to leak - both air
in and fuel out.
The worse area is around the fuel filters.  About 2 out of 3 times when I
mess with the fuel filters or fuel injection system, I end up with a leak to
track down and fix.

You might also check the fuel tank outlet for slime and signs of life that
clog it.  My tanks seem to accumulate enough moisture to badly rust the fuel
cap.

If it's any consolation to your daughter, I've driven high mileage '95
E300D's about 250k miles.  And I can remember only being stranded
once.  About 2 years ago, one of them blew a fuse where I didn't even know
there was a fuse.  That car sat in the same parking space until I studied
the schematics and figured that one out.

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2


Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I think I am going to build one of these]

2006-07-31 Thread Steve MacSween
This guy is a riot. I like the part about being refused entry to an import
show because the car has the stock wheels, ride height and no stickers all
over it. Typical.

The scooter is wild too. There is another ones with the handlebars, not sure
of the right name). He also has a jet car, and not a nice VW-based one
either. He towed my Finnie and Volvo V8 wagon out for me from Anaheim, back
in 2000.

http://www.olddeadcars.com/weird.htm

Mac

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[MBZ] More AC questions

2006-07-31 Thread R A Bennell
My brother in law came over and charged the AC in my 115 76 300D yesterday 
afternoon. We put 134 in and it is
blowing cold air. At speed it is blowing down to about 52 degrees out the 
centre vent so that is not bad. However,
I have a couple of issues to deal with. The auxiliary fan is not running at 
all. The circuit seems to be fairly
simple based on the schematic from the CD manual. Reading other posts on here 
leads me to believe that I should
short the terminals on the switch that is screwed into the side of the receiver 
dryer doodad. The manual appears to
suggest that the switch should be removed first. I don't recall anyone saying 
that on the list. I assume I can just
use a wire as a jumper and join the terminals on the switch to see if the fan 
then cuts in and if so, the switch is
bad - right? There are 2 small boxes above the receiver dryer that have 2 fuses 
in each. Are these related to the
AC? I cleaned the terminals and put new fuses in but that didn't change 
anything. Didn't try the voltmeter to see
if there is anything there.

Second issue, is that I am getting air out of the driver's side vent and the 
centre vent but nothing from the
passenger side vent. I recall something on that subject recently for newer 
model cars. Anyone out there know what I
should be looking for on a 115??

Randy B




Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread J.B. Hebert
The engine shut off valve should be all the way open 
(counter-clockwise) under normal operation.  It may or may not be 
your problem, but it's certainly worth giving it a try and running it a bit.


J.B.

At 12:20 AM 7/31/2006, you wrote:


Folks,

The daughters new (to her) 1995 E300D has quit on her a couple of times, it
left her stranded the other night. She thought she had run out of fuel
although the gage said she had a bit under 1/2 a tank. She did not attempt
to start it in case it was out of fuel. She returned to the vehicle the next
day with 5 gallons of diesel poured it in the tank and it started
immediately so it was not out of fuel.

The gage proved accurate as I drained about 10 gals out of it. I replaced
the tank screen, disassembled and cleaned the level sensor, replaced both
fuel filters, filled the high pressure one with diesel purge, added 3
gallons of clean diesel to the tank. She drove into Woodland a mile or so
away, filled the tank it took 20 gallons and on the way home it quit. She
called me I drove down the hill to her, opened the stop knob on the high
pressure filter a bit more it started and she drove home and up the steep
hill to my place without an issue -- she does not trust the car at this
stage. So where should the 'stop screw' be positioned at?

I changed the overload (overvoltage) relay drove it in Italian fashion in
the hills behind us never missed a beat, the cruise started working reliably
for me however she tried it today and she said it was useless.

It does have the Benz and an after market security system.

Any thoughts,

Dennis T

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Re: [MBZ] cheap SDL

2006-07-31 Thread Rick Knoble

Really.I was kinda wonderring what made them cheap with that many days
left...

Mike


Nothing, really. I have seen a $400 junker go from $300 to over $1100 in the 
last minute of bidding.

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT




[MBZ] Fuses in a 115?

2006-07-31 Thread R A Bennell
My 76 300D has the one main fuse block on the left front fender. Just above and 
ahead of it are 3 more small fuse
boxes. Two of them have pop off covers and the 3rd one has a threaded rod with 
a knob on top that must be undone to
remove the cover.
Each of the 3 has 2 fuses.

One of the pop off boxes has a red fuse and a white fuse. The white one keeps 
blowing. I am wondering if both fuses
should be red. All of the other small boxes with 2 fuses seem to have 2 of the 
same color. That makes me wonder if
this one should as well. Anyone out there know for sure?

I can do some more poking around but am hoping for input from the list. The 
older I get, the more I like things
that are easy.

Randy B




Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness

2006-07-31 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that LarryT wrote:

 I have insulation and sheetrock on 2 walls - obviously can't do much
 more  insulating on the big garage doors - but I have 1 more wall to
 do - which is  shaded by trees so it's not too bad.

Spray-on polyurethane can work well on the inside of a steel garage
door. It won't stop the air leaks from the joints, though...

--Philip, happy to have a garage



[MBZ] Sweet, Expensive '79 280 SE FS

2006-07-31 Thread Dan Weeks
Recently ran across a showroom-looking '79 280 SE, 157k miles, one 
owner, $7,995. 515/295-7090. Gorgeous, appeared extremely well 
maintained by someone who knew what they were doing. Just took a 
quick look. Yellow. Know nothing else, had no time to dally. Located 
in Algona, north-central Iowa. No affiliation.



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Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread woodlandtaylors
Ned,

Thanks for the input. Is the little shut-of valve removal for resealing
(O-rings)? I cleaned the tank out and put a new screen in it -- replacing
filters at same time. I'll let her read you email is needs a confidence
build right now as she just found out old of her goddaughters has an
inoperable brain tumor -- only 3 years old -- the car has lost importance in
the short term.

Dennis T


I've always kept that little shut-off valve, on top of the fuel filter, wide
open.
Don't know if there is any reason to adjust it.


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Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-31 Thread David Brodbeck
Ed Booher wrote:
 I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and
 hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in
 several different segments.

 But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too.
   

It's not like it's just a British thing.  Haven't you ever been to a
demolition derby?




Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I think I am going to build one of these]

2006-07-31 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve MacSween wrote:
 This guy is a riot. I like the part about being refused entry to an import
 show because the car has the stock wheels, ride height and no stickers all
 over it. Typical.
   

I've seen that page before.  It's an awesome piece of work.  Build
quality that puts wanna-be tuners to shame.  The attention to detail,
fit, and finish makes a NASCAR racer look like a homebuilt.

So who's gonna build a jet-powered 300TD?  A lot of gas turbine engines
can run on diesel as well as jet fuel, so you could even use the same
fuel tank for both engines. ;)



[MBZ] HF A/C gauges

2006-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas

All you A/C DIYers -- here's your deal

*A/C MANIFOLD GAUGE SET*

Complete diagnostic and service gauge set for use on air conditioning 
systems with R134A freon.


   * Sight glass
   * Quick-connect fittings
   * High pressure safety valve
   * Color-coding on gauges, valves and hoses

* ITEM 92649
*

*http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=92649
*

*On sale for $34.99 with a coupon I got in an email
*

*And this thing, for when your car strands you in the wilds
*

*FRONTIER(TM) WATER PURIFICATION STRAW*

Ideal for hiking, camping, travel in foreign countries, and emergency use.

   * Removes pathogens as small as 2 microns, including Giardia,
 Cryptosporidium and E. Coli bacteria
   * Activated carbon filter removes chemicals and improves taste
   * Super compact, fits in a pocket
   * Treats up to 20 gallons of water

* ITEM 94544, only $7.99!  I wonder if it would improve the taste of 
cheap lite beer?

*

*--R
*




Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread David Brodbeck
LarryT wrote:
 Try to find out how the aftermarket security system works - I'm curious how 
 it might work - most work to cut the electrity but that won't do any good on 
 a diesel.  If it doesn't attempt to disable the vehicle then it's not part 
 of the problem -
   

A lot of them are just wired to interrupt the circuit to the starter
solenoid.  I think there's too much liability involved in wiring to
interrupt the fuel pump or ignition circuits -- if the alarm or relay
malfunctioned the car could stall on the freeway and cause an accident.




Re: [MBZ] HF A/C gauges

2006-07-31 Thread Potter, Tom E
WHAT TASTE? Almost anything will improve it. All lite beer is cheap;
it is only water.

If it is transparent, it is NOT REAL beer.

Tom Potter

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...  I wonder if it would improve the taste of 
cheap lite beer?



Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-31 Thread Ed Booher

Demolition Derbies hate Germans too?

On 7/31/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ed Booher wrote:
 I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and
 hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in
 several different segments.

 But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too.


It's not like it's just a British thing.  Haven't you ever been to a
demolition derby?


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Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness

2006-07-31 Thread LT Don

I have a ceiling fan in my garage -- but it was there when I bought the
house.

On 7/30/06, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I thought I was the only one silly enough to have a fan on in my garage.
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Re: [MBZ] HF A/C gauges

2006-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
That was my point.  It would remove the lite beer taste so it tasted 
like good water.  I went to an Astros game last year, only thing they 
had there was Miller Lite or some such, I had never had the stuff 
before, had to get one with the dogs, it tasted awful, like really fizzy 
soda with some kind of chemically-altered malt flavoring added.  I could 
barely stomach it, only because I needed some liquid.  How can people 
drink that stuff?


Reminds me, wifey wants me to brew up a batch for a work event in 3 
weeks, guess I better go get the ingredients.  Maybe I can put the 
gauges on the carboy to monitor pressure build-up.


--R

Potter, Tom E wrote:


WHAT TASTE? Almost anything will improve it. All lite beer is cheap;
it is only water.

If it is transparent, it is NOT REAL beer.

Tom Potter

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...  I wonder if it would improve the taste of 
cheap lite beer?


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Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
Don't they wear demolition derbies on work sites?  I know the bankers 
have some funky derbies, you see them in London occasionally looking 
veddy bankerish, with the brolly and pinstripe suit, maybe the 
(de)construction guys have their own versions?


--R

Ed Booher wrote:


Demolition Derbies hate Germans too?

On 7/31/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Ed Booher wrote:
   


I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and
hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in
several different segments.

But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too.

 


It's not like it's just a British thing.  Haven't you ever been to a
demolition derby?


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Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness

2006-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I always found that licking the joints and applying a bit of tissue or 
toilet paper prevented the leaks.  Never tried spray-on poly.


--R

Fmiser wrote:


rumor has it that LarryT wrote:

 


I have insulation and sheetrock on 2 walls - obviously can't do much
more  insulating on the big garage doors - but I have 1 more wall to
do - which is  shaded by trees so it's not too bad.
   



Spray-on polyurethane can work well on the inside of a steel garage
door. It won't stop the air leaks from the joints, though...

--Philip, happy to have a garage

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Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I think I am going to build one of these]

2006-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I have the TD, wonder where you can get a jet engine cheap?  That one in 
the car was from a helo, maybe over timed or something and sold cheap at 
surplus auction?  And he had those other two little ones too. 


--R

David Brodbeck wrote:


Steve MacSween wrote:
 


This guy is a riot. I like the part about being refused entry to an import
show because the car has the stock wheels, ride height and no stickers all
over it. Typical.
 
   



I've seen that page before.  It's an awesome piece of work.  Build
quality that puts wanna-be tuners to shame.  The attention to detail,
fit, and finish makes a NASCAR racer look like a homebuilt.

So who's gonna build a jet-powered 300TD?  A lot of gas turbine engines
can run on diesel as well as jet fuel, so you could even use the same
fuel tank for both engines. ;)

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Re: [MBZ] HF A/C gauges

2006-07-31 Thread Bob Rentfro
Tom stated a fact: 


If it is transparent, it is NOT REAL beer.

AMEN

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 157K
'87 Acura Legend  177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL  78K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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WHAT TASTE? Almost anything will improve it. All lite beer is cheap;
it is only water.

 
Tom Potter


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...  I wonder if it would improve the taste of 
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115?

2006-07-31 Thread Jim Cathey
One of the pop off boxes has a red fuse and a white fuse. The white 
one keeps blowing. I am wondering if both fuses should be red.


What does it fuse?  Maybe we can work out its correct rating from that.

-- Jim




[MBZ] OT: Home Brew was Re: HF A/C gauges

2006-07-31 Thread Rick Knoble

Reminds me, wifey wants me to brew up a batch for a work event in 3
weeks, guess I better go get the ingredients.


I was gonna start brewing my own beer several years ago. I got sidetracked 
and now I don't drink alcohol. Does anyone have experience brewing root beer 
or any other carbonated non-alcoholic beverages?

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 





Re: [MBZ] More AC questions

2006-07-31 Thread Jim Cathey

The auxiliary fan is not running at all.


You know it's only supposed to come on when the AC system
gets 'too hot', right?  It may be normal that it not come on
for you, except sometimes.  My 114 didn't have any switch on
the AC system, since Yorks don't need a low-pressure safety
switch and early cars didn't couple the auxiliary fan to the
AC system.  I added a later high-temperature switch to my
drier, and cobbled it into the existing aux fan wiring.  It
required a diode, as I recall, to isolate the existing aux
fan relay from other circuitry.  (The car's overtemperature
switch kicks on the fan and changes the engine timing, and I
only wanted the fan to come on.)


I am getting air out of the driver's side vent and the centre vent
but nothing from the passenger side vent.


Is the shutoff lever working?  Look down the eyeball to see if
it's opening up.  You may also have a duct hose disconnected
underneath the dash.  There's nothing else there that could
cause what you describe.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Powersteering woes

2006-07-31 Thread Marshall Booth

Curt Raymond wrote:

Oh plauge and pestilence.
  The powersteering leak I should have been fixing last weekend seems to have 
bitten me on the behind today. Driving to work I noticed a very strong oil 
smell that seemed to come and go. Once parked I noticed my car had left a trail 
of red oil...
  So its gotta be a PS leak, theres not much other red oil in the car and the 
trans feels fine and hasn't been leaking.
  I presume this is the low pressure hose, it looked suspect before and I 
haven't been able to find any leaks around the pump. Does anybody know what 
size this hose is? I know Rusty sells it by the metre but I'd rather not wait 
for shipping and I've already given him a couple boat payments off this car, 
plus I need to give him a call for a voltage regulator this week anyway...
  So anyway I'd like to source this stuff locally, anybody else done this?
   


What you seem to be describing is usually a failed seal in the power 
steering box. Most old time Mercedes mechanics can reseal them for a 
couple of hundred dollars. Might be cheaper to buy a used box (they 
seldom cost more than $100 and are often less) and have it installed 
(maybe an hour labor). Most steering boxes and their seals last the life 
of the car.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Brew was Re: HF A/C gauges

2006-07-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I have made root beer, birch beer, and ginger beer.  You can buy little 
bottles of extract, at the grocery store or a home-brew shop, mix it up 
with some water and sugar, or make a syrup and pour it in some fizzy 
water.  Or you can use it to do the yeast thing, that makes it fizzy but 
also makes some alcohol (not a lot, couple percent) from the yeastie 
beasties doing their work.  And you have to be REALLY careful as the 
pressure really builds in the bottles.  I pour the mix in plastic 1 
liter bottles, they swell up like (American) footballs but I have not 
had any of them explode (though they do tip over when the bottoms get 
puffed out).  Contrast this to my experience in high school, using 
discarded liquor bottles for containers, my success rate there was about 
50%, to the consternation of my dad who liked to keep the garage clean.  
It was great fun to take them in the car though, with my buddies, and 
chug on them at stoplights, drawing evil looks from the oldsters sitting 
next to us who probably thought we were counter-culture delinquents who 
would end up driving old Benzes.


Here is a recipe I think was in the NYTimes (could be fake but 
accurate), for Jamaican ginger beer, not brewed but just made like lemonade:


Recipe: Ginger Beer
Time: 10 minutes, plus at least 4 hours' steeping
12 ounces ginger, washed and roughly chopped (about 2 cups); peel if you 
want a lighter-colored beverage

1 bay leaf
¾ cup sugar
Juice of 1 lemon.
1. Place chopped ginger in a large bowl. Add bay leaf. Boil 10 cups 
water and pour it over ginger. Let mixture sit for at least 4 hours or 
overnight.
2. Meanwhile, in a small saucepan, place ¾ cup water and the sugar and 
bring to a boil. Reduce heat to medium and simmer just until sugar has 
melted, stirring occasionally. Set aside to cool.
3. Strain ginger mixture into a pitcher or a glass jar, mix in sugar 
water and lemon juice. Stir and serve over ice.

Yield: About 10 cups.

If you want me to send you some more off-line, I collected a bunch. most 
of which are yeast-made so will have a bit of ethanol in it.  All have 
pretty much the same base ingredients, with some variations.


--R

Rick Knoble wrote:


Reminds me, wifey wants me to brew up a batch for a work event in 3
weeks, guess I better go get the ingredients.
   



I was gonna start brewing my own beer several years ago. I got sidetracked 
and now I don't drink alcohol. Does anyone have experience brewing root beer 
or any other carbonated non-alcoholic beverages?

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 



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Re: [MBZ] More AC questions

2006-07-31 Thread R A Bennell
I think it should be coming on. We were running the car in the garage and 
watching the temperature of the engine
and of the cold air out of the vent. At one point the compressor was trying to 
lock up and it stalled the car when
I tried to back out of the garage. My mechanic brother in law (he is a 
licenced mechanic with a fair amount of AC
experience but no experience on old MB's) thinks that the fan should come on 
and help cool the AC. It seems to be
fine when the car is moving and has air flowing through the rad.

The vent lever was working before we had the AC working. Lever shuts off flow 
of vent. Now however, with the AC on
there is no airflow from the vent.

Will try to take another look at it this evening.

Randy


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 The auxiliary fan is not running at all.

You know it's only supposed to come on when the AC system
gets 'too hot', right?  It may be normal that it not come on
for you, except sometimes.  My 114 didn't have any switch on
the AC system, since Yorks don't need a low-pressure safety
switch and early cars didn't couple the auxiliary fan to the
AC system.  I added a later high-temperature switch to my
drier, and cobbled it into the existing aux fan wiring.  It
required a diode, as I recall, to isolate the existing aux
fan relay from other circuitry.  (The car's overtemperature
switch kicks on the fan and changes the engine timing, and I
only wanted the fan to come on.)

 I am getting air out of the driver's side vent and the centre vent
 but nothing from the passenger side vent.

Is the shutoff lever working?  Look down the eyeball to see if
it's opening up.  You may also have a duct hose disconnected
underneath the dash.  There's nothing else there that could
cause what you describe.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115?

2006-07-31 Thread R A Bennell
I can trace the wiring or pull the fuse and see what does not work. I just 
thought that someone out there might
know or remember what the various fuse boxes are for or know where in the CD 
manual to look. I could look at wiring
diagrams I suppose. That might tell me something as the older diagrams are a 
lot simpler than the new car diagrams.

Randy


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 One of the pop off boxes has a red fuse and a white fuse. The white
 one keeps blowing. I am wondering if both fuses should be red.

What does it fuse?  Maybe we can work out its correct rating from that.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread ned kleinhenz

Dennis:

Our prayers for your granddaughter.

The little O-rings for the shut off valve come with a Mann fuel filter.
The thimble type filter does not seem to come with the 2 O-rings it needs.
You have to ask Rusty to look them up separately.  I've had trouble getting
the thimble filter to seal without new O-rings.
And I once had a shut off valve leak from its internal packing (or what ever
is inside) and had to replace the whole valve.

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2


Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Brew was Re: HF A/C gauges

2006-07-31 Thread David Brodbeck
Rich Thomas wrote:
 I pour the mix in plastic 1 
 liter bottles, they swell up like (American) footballs but I have not 
 had any of them explode (though they do tip over when the bottoms get 
 puffed out).

They'll take a lot of pressure, but if one explodes, you'll really know
it.  We used to blow them up using dry ice.  Put a little water in the
bottom of a 2-liter bottle, dump in some pieces of dry ice, then screw
the cap on and throw it a good distance away.  Pressure builds from the
dry ice evaporating until...boom!




Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I think I am going to build one of these]

2006-07-31 Thread David Brodbeck
Rich Thomas wrote:
 I have the TD, wonder where you can get a jet engine cheap?  That one in 
 the car was from a helo, maybe over timed or something and sold cheap at 
 surplus auction?  And he had those other two little ones too. 
   

I've never tried to buy one, but that's the usual source.  They have a
maximum legal lifespan for aviation use, but will run for much longer. 
Catastrophic failures are extremely rare (but you don't want to be next
to one when it happens.)




[MBZ] Thank goodness

2006-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond
So at lunch I went out and had a look at my leaky 190D, turns out its NOT as I 
had feared the PS hose, in fact that looks pretty good. Today's leak appears to 
be the injector return line between #1 and #2. When I had the car running it 
became apparent really quick.
  Fortunately I have return line at home I'd bought for my 240D but never 
installed. I'll replace all the return lines tonight.
  It *looks* like my leaking ATF from the PS Pump is coming out of the plate 
between the pully and pump itself. It looks like thats a pretty easy fix. On my 
pickup I've taken the serpentine belt before with a wrench on the tensioner, 
does it work the same on my 190D?
  Looks like I pull the belt, undo like 4 bolts, pull the front off careful 
like, replace the seal and reverse my steps, anybody BTDT?
   
  -Curt


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Rick,

Way back when I was a kid, my parents made root beer.  In my memory,  
it was wonderful.  Used root beer extract, sugar, hot water and  
yeast.  Let it sit a while and then bottled it.  My job was to do the  
capping.

Here's a link I found that has a recipe..  http:// 
www.greydragon.org/library/brewing_root_beer.html

Hope it helps...

Take care,

Chuck
1986 190E 2.3 16V
1992 500E

I found
On Jul 31, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:

 Reminds me, wifey wants me to brew up a batch for a work event in 3
 weeks, guess I better go get the ingredients.

 I was gonna start brewing my own beer several years ago. I got  
 sidetracked
 and now I don't drink alcohol. Does anyone have experience brewing  
 root beer
 or any other carbonated non-alcoholic beverages?
 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD
 '87 190 DT


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[MBZ] Part number for 300TD self-levelling struts

2006-07-31 Thread Euan
Greetings from the Colonies

More on my self-levelling rear struts replacement...

I've found an affordable source of struts in Australia for my 1985 300TD.
Problem is, their part number is not the same as mine.  So I wonder if you
guys with EPCs could tell me what you think the part number is.

Vehicle number is W123190 2F 043108 (300TD 5-spd manual).

The part number I'm working to is A123 320 07 03.

Thanks

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Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting

2006-07-31 Thread LarryT

Thanks David -
Actually, I had an aftermarket asystem a PO had put on a 78 Chev Malibu we 
had.  Were driving along when all of a suddem it died - in the street - we 
pulled over and I managed to pull the wire going to the disributor - it 
started instantly - it was an amazing Chev 305(?) V8 that was in perfect 
condition - and never had the problem again.  I removed the control box and 
alarm - it ws not a very sophisticated system but it was wired to the 
distribitor and would ground the electronic points if the car wasn't started 
properly.  I guess the manufacturer wasn't too concerned with liability. 
;-)


Take care -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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LarryT wrote:
Try to find out how the aftermarket security system works - I'm curious 
how
it might work - most work to cut the electrity but that won't do any good 
on
a diesel.  If it doesn't attempt to disable the vehicle then it's not 
part

of the problem -



A lot of them are just wired to interrupt the circuit to the starter
solenoid.  I think there's too much liability involved in wiring to
interrupt the fuel pump or ignition circuits -- if the alarm or relay
malfunctioned the car could stall on the freeway and cause an accident.


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