Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing
While I have a great Indie, I have always used the MB dealer for allignment and wheel balancing, Costs a few bucks more but the job is always spot on and know they know how to use a torque wrench, etc. John Freer On 11/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/12/2006 5:32:46 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What experience are you having with wheel balancing- I brought my 300D in for snow tires and they put 4 Dunlop Graspics on the car. The car, in nice weather, has Goodyear Triple Treads. When the Goodyears were on the car, there was absolutely NO vibration in the steering wheel. With the Graspics, it is notible at 45 MPH and annoying at 60 MPH. The Goodyears were balanced by the MB dealership and the Graspics by a tire warehouse. Anyone had experience with this- the Graspics are snow tires- should I expect vibration? Being balanced, they could still be out of round, and the vibration could actually be more severe at 45 than 65. First thing I would do is look to see if they mounted the tires with the colored dot aligned with the wheel's tire valve. This is supposed to get the heaviest part of the tire opposite the heaviest part of the wheel. If they didn't do that, you got a rookie tire person, and a bad supervisor. Along with this, I would not accept a balanced wheel with more than 2 ounces of weights on it. Either get another tire or move the tire on the wheel to a position that requires less weights The road force balancing method is supposed one of the best methods but will cost you about $70 at say Discount Tire. regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] water pump gasket
I am unable to find the sealant which is suggested by the water pump manufacturer ( Meyle). Any suggestions? Also what are the torque values for the bolts? Thanks in advance. Regards, Constantine
Re: [MBZ] 380sel opinions
Make sure its been changed over to the double row chain Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: My brother is looking at an 82 380sel with approx 200K with timing chain replaced by independent MB shop. In general, what are pros and cons/big worries on that engine? TIA Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
when you dont go anymore? R A Bennell wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] DC mechanic
I prefer Rick - had several minor gripes with Mitch - petty but annoying. On 11/9/06, Rhonald Angelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch Carr's Inc. 4232 Howard Ave. 301.493.9460 Hal is on vaction, ask for Mitch. Rhonald 1985 300D 291,000 miles Black/Palomino Original Message Follows From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DC mechanic Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:30:40 -0500 Redghost wrote: Need mechanic in DC for an old 240D. Anybody have good place to take a 76 to get a look at and made strong enough for a trip to Central America? Rick at PC Imports is as good as they get and is reasonably priced. http://rc-imports.com/ Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmtagline ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] water pump gasket
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You should be able to get it at any place that gets parts from european parts suppliers. I usually have good luck with VW shops/part places. Tyler On Nov 13, 2006, at 6:21 PM, Constantine N. Polites wrote: I am unable to find the sealant which is suggested by the water pump manufacturer ( Meyle). Any suggestions? Also what are the torque values for the bolts? Thanks in advance. Regards, Constantine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFWTf8t178NxI/higRAlIQAKCCMqX5us75FnuOEJdxV+k8T/c/+wCdFqxU wuCmtHuHHjc8TR8cgajocR8= =1nLL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [MBZ] smart USA vehicle announced
Rather than crawl under the Smartcar there is a lever for flipping it over turtle-like for easy access to the power train underneath... On 11/10/06, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, well Im old enough to crawl about with a flashlight looking for weirdness, and not old enough so like you that I have to worry about what 15 year old car I'll have in 20 years or so to peek at too. At some point here they'll stick stickers on the door and say void's warranty, no user servicable parts etc behind panel, and likely danger high voltage authorized personal only sooner than expected I'd guess. On 10-Nov-06, at 2:50 PM, R A Bennell wrote: I'm showing my age but I am old school enough to want to be able to open the hood and look around. I also do not buy new cars so it is usually a good idea for me to keep an eye on what is happening. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 4:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] smart USA vehicle announced Well if they are talking about oil changes every 12,000 miles, and service checks every 25,000 miles they are really into the consumer doesn't need to get access to the engine now. Most I guess will run until the idiot lamp (needs service) comes on, most interesting one is when water separator becomes full because local (low volume) diesel station is selling water infested diesel fuel, then engine stops Still it warns you, but people report warning versus stopping is iffy... I *belive* the new one is using different engines, not MB made, so I cann't comment on how they will work. Versus the weekly check on the two diesel with flashlight to see if anything odd (or leaking) is happening. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AD for 1985 300 TD Wagon
Must be fatally flawed at that price... On 11/12/06, mark maturo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is interestedThis ad is in a paper that circulates in CT. I have not seen the car. dark blue with tan interior, 178,500 mi, pb, pdl, sunroof, air, pw, all power, auto, cruise, CD, workhorse has all the expected options, regular and snows, 8 wheels, and thousands of miles left in it, runs well, exc int, little rust on wheel wells, good bio-diesel option, needs some attention, Call for details, $2000 OBO. (203) 588-0672 (2X) . Stamford, CT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
I change the inline fuel filter at least 3X yearly due to clogging, and at least annually for the main filter, regardless of mileage. Cheap fixes. On 11/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when you dont go anymore? R A Bennell wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen
Kaleb - When I pulled the screen on my '81 SD I used my 12 channel locks. Mine wasn't really that tight. Barry After removing the big line from the tank (this is a gas 126), I assume you just unscrew the big fitting for the tank screen? What I need to know, what size socket do you need to remove the tank screen?
[MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern
On my W123 the front tyres , both are exhibiting a strange wear pattern where the outer blocks have a kind of saw-tooth pattern. Had alignment checked and rotated tyres and now the previouslyly rear tyres are doing the same thing. Shocks are new Bilsteins. Ball joints and arms are all new. Any ideas Peter
[MBZ] 300D radiator pipe to fill tank broken off
Hi; is there a fix for the broken, small pipe on top of rad. that goes to plastic resevoir?; have one broke off; my 85 300D has a Metal one put in it; is that a fix or came that way new?; it was loose i put epoxy around it; still loose but does not leak any fluid; could a person buy a metal hose fitting tap, maybe pipe thread? to put new one in?? any advise is appreciated; thanks again, Steve also; anyone have a crashed radiater with a good top tank, large hose mount, upper rad. that is still there???
[MBZ] 300D radio on off problem
Thanks Randy Rich; better to buy cheap radio w. cd player in it my 85 has a kenwood radio w. a 5 disk changer in trunk(supposed to be 6 disk but one plastic disk holder broke HA!); this was wired thru the center balance switch;(i don't think this is the correct way, considering the radio has 4 sets of speaker wires for 4 sep. speakers)?? I rewired it all to get 4 diff. speakers separate bought some CHEAP speakers, sounds better than the cracked orig. ones need 1 plastic cd tray for the Kenwood 6 disk changer Steve
[MBZ] Fuel filter changes
How to tell; my 300D started slowing down to about 45 mph top speed i turned off to check filters; yes i have most all parts to fix car in OTHER CAR!!!; I did remove main filter dump out; then clear pre filter; had black specks all around inside: i shook blew thru it enough to get home w. no more loss of power; OH! the night before i had removed the tank screen cleaned checked not bad at all; then i stuck my finger up in tank rubbed it all around to loosen up a small layer of sludge; only felt like thin layer???then the sludge went to pre filter, never had a pre filter so stopped up! hadn't had this car for long; changed repaired a lot of other items, but did not change the CHEAPEST?? the pre filter; i have used diesel additives also in tank; Steve
Re: [MBZ] 380sel opinions
Thanks Kaleb-he is going to check on it today. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380sel opinions Make sure its been changed over to the double row chain Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: My brother is looking at an 82 380sel with approx 200K with timing chain replaced by independent MB shop. In general, what are pros and cons/big worries on that engine? TIA Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern
Peter Merle wrote: On my W123 the front tyres , both are exhibiting a strange wear pattern where the outer blocks have a kind of saw-tooth pattern. Did they use a spreader bar to set toe-in?
Re: [MBZ] 300D radio on off problem
Yes, bypass the fader, wire the 4 spkrs directly. Even some cheap spkrs will sound much better. --R Stephen D Murrell wrote: Thanks Randy Rich; better to buy cheap radio w. cd player in it my 85 has a kenwood radio w. a 5 disk changer in trunk(supposed to be 6 disk but one plastic disk holder broke HA!); this was wired thru the center balance switch;(i don't think this is the correct way, considering the radio has 4 sets of speaker wires for 4 sep. speakers)?? I rewired it all to get 4 diff. speakers separate bought some CHEAP speakers, sounds better than the cracked orig. ones need 1 plastic cd tray for the Kenwood 6 disk changer Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:47 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 061113 2.552 2.530 2.616 2.643 2.473 2.562 2.470 2.623 2.673 2.677 061106 2.506 2.508 2.613 2.628 2.448 2.493 2.449 2.577 2.606 2.637 061030 2.517 2.530 2.629 2.646 2.472 2.501 2.462 2.577 2.602 2.645 061023 2.524 2.537 2.636 2.651 2.480 2.502 2.477 2.563 2.628 2.669 061016 2.503 2.521 2.623 2.636 2.462 2.459 2.461 2.539 2.655 2.703 061009 2.506 2.533 2.649 2.654 2.471 2.448 2.446 2.584 2.697 2.751 061002 2.546 2.567 2.678 2.694 2.503 2.467 2.490 2.679 2.789 2.835 060925 2.595 2.600 2.730 2.746 2.526 2.506 2.526 2.827 2.892 2.910 060918 2.713 2.699 2.832 2.844 2.625 2.624 2.636 3.052 3.014 3.002 060911 2.857 2.826 2.955 2.958 2.757 2.787 2.770 3.236 3.137 3.125 060904 2.967 2.911 3.009 3.032 2.850 2.937 2.872 3.318 3.199 3.175 060828 3.027 2.955 3.035 3.074 2.897 3.026 2.923 3.346 3.229 3.200 060821 3.033 2.953 3.049 3.078 2.890 3.041 2.923 3.349 3.237 3.221 060814 3.065 3.017 3.077 3.130 2.964 3.065 2.974 3.311 3.218 3.220 060807 3.055 3.026 3.061 3.104 2.989 3.070 2.988 3.208 3.113 3.130 060731 2.980 2.958 2.991 3.030 2.924 2.988 2.925 3.052 3.066 3.093 060724 2.946 2.925 2.972 3.002 2.888 2.951 2.895 2.987 3.047 3.097 060717 2.926 2.906 2.970 2.992 2.864 2.927 2.868 2.960 3.051 3.097 060710 2.918 2.887 2.947 2.963 2.849 2.919 2.866 2.966 3.060 3.113 060703 2.898 2.874 2.948 2.951 2.834 2.887 2.845 2.958 3.056 3.119 060626 2.867 2.864 2.952 2.956 2.816 2.819 2.822 2.960 3.068 3.140 060619 2.915 2.907 2.960 2.990 2.867 2.873 2.859 3.018 3.117 3.185 060612 2.918 2.909 2.979 2.997 2.866 2.874 2.848 3.041 3.149 3.217 060605 2.890 2.881 2.969 2.992 2.825 2.837 2.805 3.043 3.159 3.227 060529 2.882 2.873 2.966 2.987 2.815 2.824 2.798 3.044 3.161 3.227 060522 2.888 2.877 2.982 2.987 2.820 2.836 2.801 3.024 3.175 3.234 060515 2.920 2.907 3.003 3.014 2.853 2.870 2.829 3.074 3.192 3.242 060508 2.897 2.884 2.972 2.983 2.834 2.841 2.814 3.054 3.180 3.244 060501 2.896 2.892 2.979 2.987 2.843 2.853 2.832 3.012 3.098 3.163 060424 2.876 2.888 2.961 2.978 2.843 2.847 2.817 2.903 3.026 3.103 060417 2.765 2.788 2.865 2.876 2.743 2.735 2.725 2.756 2.881 2.933 060410 2.654 2.676 2.769 2.767 2.629 2.614 2.601 2.680 2.812 2.881 060403 2.617 2.639 2.731 2.727 2.593 2.578 2.579 2.629 2.753 2.812 060327 2.565 2.586 2.700 2.681 2.536 2.523 2.528 2.601 2.698 2.727 060320 2.581 2.606 2.702 2.697 2.558 2.533 2.552 2.608 2.716 2.738 060313 2.543 2.567 2.687 2.681 2.507 2.491 2.497 2.566 2.725 2.747 060306 2.545 2.571 2.656 2.682 2.516 2.500 2.499 2.545 2.711 2.739 060227 2.471 2.493 2.593 2.593 2.441 2.417 2.443 2.509 2.623 2.688 060220 2.455 2.487 2.593 2.580 2.437 2.398 2.427 2.497 2.594 2.674 060213 2.476 2.509 2.617 2.591 2.464 2.419 2.447 2.500 2.621 2.709 060206 2.499 2.536 2.659 2.618 2.490 2.445 2.463 2.503 2.645 2.739 060130 2.489 2.530 2.661 2.618 2.481 2.431 2.455 2.474 2.640 2.733 060123 2.472
Re: [MBZ] 300D radiator pipe to fill tank broken off
Stephen, get a short piece of metal,brass, sink drain pipe, cut to fit and epoxy it inside... DWS Stephen D Murrell wrote: Hi; is there a fix for the broken, small pipe on top of rad. that goes to plastic resevoir?; have one broke off; my 85 300D has a Metal one put in it; is that a fix or came that way new?; it was loose i put epoxy around it; still loose but does not leak any fluid; could a person buy a metal hose fitting tap, maybe pipe thread? to put new one in?? any advise is appreciated; thanks again, Steve also; anyone have a crashed radiater with a good top tank, large hose mount, upper rad. that is still there??? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 trunk latch part
Anybody got a 126 at their friendly local U-Pull? I'm looking for the auxiliary trunk latch that some of them had, the extra male eyed tongue (and its mounting screws) on the trunk lid to the left of the main one . Ours is gone, and that prevents the trunk from being locked via the key. I don't know how/when ours went missing, but I know I haven't been able to lock the trunk via the key for a long time. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
Not really worried about it as I think my car has reasonable power for its type. Was just curious as to whether there were obvious symptoms I should keep in mind as this is all fairly new to me. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes They can slowly reduce in power overtime, or reduce suddenly. I have had several diesels get massive increases in power after filter changes, when I had never realized they were slowing down. Usually you will notice a serious reduction, and difficulty climbing even mild grades. I always carry spare filters, and the tools to change them when driving any diesel vehicle anywhere. If you are in doubt, change them now and stop worrying about it. It's easy and cheap to do, and then you can keep around the old filters that still flow as emergency spares! Tyler How sudden should I expect the onset? As we all know, these old cars are not too speedy to begin with. I might not notice unless it becomes fairly obvious. This is a 76 115 300D that I am referring to. I have had it 2 summers now and have yet to change fuel filters. I bought some and have one in the trunk but have yet to install one. I got some of the clear inline prefilters too but my car does not appear to have one installed at this time. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern
Toe in is excessive, have an alignment done with a spreader bar applied to correct for road forces (this is the normal Benz procedure, not all shops do it). You should also check the condition of tie rods, drag link, and idler arm as looseness in those parts will result in excessive toe. Peter -Original Message- From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 14, 2006 2:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern On my W123 the front tyres , both are exhibiting a strange wear pattern where the outer blocks have a kind of saw-tooth pattern. Had alignment checked and rotated tyres and now the previouslyly rear tyres are doing the same thing. Shocks are new Bilsteins. Ball joints and arms are all new. Any ideas Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] low idle and pulsating idle when engine (not ambienttemp) iscold
Got to this yesterday. It (rack damper bolt) was all the way in. I turned it out, with engine running and thingschanged. Went all the way back in and nothing - it's only when adjusting out that things change and you can adjust it. Very interesting. SO, I adjusted out till the engine stopped shaking (although my air filter is shaking like CRAZY AND ALL 3 bushings are new AND still intact). So, the car starts without having to push the pedal (not as perfectly as before), no loping AND there USED to be a vibration (I thought alignment since tires were just balanced) around 75-80 mph. THAT IS ENTIRELY GONE. Aside from terrible filter shaking at idle (which is only reading 550 on the tach, used to be 750), the engine runs MUCH more smoothly. NOW: Should I turn the rack damper bolt out even further to reduce the filter shaking and will that bring my idle back up? Thanks, Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In. Even with the new screw, it still has to be adjusted sometimes. Christopher McCann wrote: It has the updated screw, forget what color. It was installed about 1 year ago. But there is no engine loping (if that is the right word), i.e the engine does not vibrate at idle after the engine has warmed up just a little bit (1 minute)...although it does vibrate/shudder hard when trying to start if the accelerator is not pushed half way down and the idle plunges before the engine gets a little warm (under a minute) with accompanying shuddering and then stall...ditto with putting it in gear before it has had its TINY warm up time. If it's the rack damper screw, is it needing to go in or out? Chris Marshall Booth wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: adjusted valves Saturday night and no change whatsoever, unfortunately. Chris Does the car have a silver or a gold rack damper screw and when was it last adjusted? Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 14 19:40:51 2006 Received: from mtai03.charter.net ([209.225.8.183]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk49K-0001WU-Sl for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:40:51 + Received: from aa08.charter.net ([10.20.200.160]) by mtai03.charter.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:39:22 -0500 Received: from Dell4700 ([68.187.99.77]) by aa08.charter.net with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:39:22 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: P. D. Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:39:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Chzlrs: 0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] low idle and pulsating idle when engine (not ambienttemp)iscold X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:40:51 - NOW: Should I turn the rack damper bolt out even further to reduce the filter shaking and will that bring my idle back up? If you have an old shock absorber bumper lying around, put a bolt through the air filter housing adjacent the valve cover and use an acorn nut on the outside end of the bolt.
Re: [MBZ] low idle and pulsating idle when engine (not ambienttemp)iscold
I have many shock donuts as I planned to do just this thing, but it never seemed THAT necessary...until now - it shakes like CRAZY...only the filter, not the engine. A clear case of resonance. increasing the idle by depressing the accelerator just a tad immediately stops the shaking...but i find it hard to fathom that my rack damper bolt AND idle screw both lost their tune on the same trip. Chris P. D. Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOW: Should I turn the rack damper bolt out even further to reduce the filter shaking and will that bring my idle back up? If you have an old shock absorber bumper lying around, put a bolt through the air filter housing adjacent the valve cover and use an acorn nut on the outside end of the bolt. Put the bumper over the nut when installing the air filter housing so that it is up against the valve cover. Quiets things down. Remember to grab the bumper when subsequently removing the air filter housing to avoid swearing when it disappears from sight. Peter Ferguson 1983 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 14 22:01:09 2006 Received: from web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk6L7-0005vC-5u for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:01:09 + Received: (qmail 79647 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2006 21:59:40 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:59:40 PST Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:59:40 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] What do you make of this? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:01:11 - Lets review my oil analysis history on the '85 190D 2.2l 5327mi Iron=100 7478mi Iron=144 changed oil 8221mi Iron=113 10835mi Iron=139. Larry continues to send me horror stories of low compression from broken rings and other horror. My car continues to start better (even with colder temps) and have more power as I continue with the Italian tune ups (more on that in another post). I continue to believe that I had some bad sludge deposits in the engine that are slowly being cleaned out with good oil and hard driving. -Curt - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 14 22:07:04 2006 Received: from web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.35]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gk6Qq-00066q-3W for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:07:04 + Received: (qmail 26240 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2006 22:05:31 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:05:31 PST Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:05:31 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] Taking it to the pips X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
andrew strasfogel wrote: I change the inline fuel filter at least 3X yearly due to clogging, and at least annually for the main filter, regardless of mileage. Cheap fixes. The only time you should need to do that is if you routinely buy seriously contaminated fuel OR the is debris in the tank that needs to be cleaned out. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Mercedes S/W luggage rack cross bars: $100
Mercedes S/W luggage rack cross bars: These are NEW, still in factory sealed wrap. Mercedes stock # 124-840-0218 Fits all 124 series wagons 86-93300TE TD and 94-95 E320 Wagon These sold for $300 each (ouch) and Are out of production now. I will sell BOTH for $100 + Shipping
