Re: [MBZ] PLAYSTATION 3 FOR SALE

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:53:30 -0600 Rich Thomas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But aren't there strict gun control laws?  How could this happen?
> 
> I don't think this is truthful.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PLAYSTATION_SHOOTING?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-11-17-07-41-29

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2006/11/16/ddn111606gametheftweb.html

http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/video/10339676/index.html

Re: [MBZ] RDB color, idle screw and throttle link. adjust

[Marshall Booth]

Jeff Zedic wrote:

Perhaps Marshall or someone can point you to the best wesite. I lost all my
bookmarks in a security "upgrade"


http://manuals.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Engine/617/07_1-100.pdf

Or you can buy the CD from Mercedes for less than $20!

http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=Retail&category%5Fname=1009%28ClassicTechLit%29&product%5Fid=QL%2D6516%2D5610%2D02%28ClassicTechLit%29

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Playstation

[Hendrik Riessen]

You're serious, aren't you. Who the hell is going to pay 5k for a games 
console?
Especially seeing I could buy a 3 for a lot less 
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-On-hand-SONY-PS3-PLAYSTATION-3-60GB-RIDGE-RACER-7_W0QQitemZ230053261922QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-On-hand-SONY-PS3-PLAYSTATION-3-60GB-RIDGE-RACER-7_W0QQitemZ230053261922QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I suppose there are parents out there that think if their kid is not the 
first one on the block with a 3 they will be emotionally scared for life.
I will in a couple of years time upgrade but not while it is still that 
expensive.
Me thinks you better do your homework again, most 3's on ebay are selling 
for around US$2000

http://video-games.search.ebay.com/playstation-3_Systems_W0QQsacatZ62054

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From: "Tarek Elshenawy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Banned List'" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Playstation



It wasn't a stampede at all. It was pretty well organized, with a list and
an hourly roll call. The Best Buy I've been camping at since Tuesday
afternoon was guaranteed at least 26 total and ended up with 34; 25 of 
which

were the premium 60GB editions. In retrospect, it was well worth enduring
the pouring rain and extreme cold.

Anyone seriously interested please contact me off-list. I have 3 60GB and 
2
20GB, ready to ship. All of them include the unreleased Talladega Nights 
DVD

in the new Blu-Ray format for true 1080p resolution. You can see for
yourselves what these are currently going for on eBay.

Keep in mind that most of the Playstation consoles currently on eBay 
aren't
even actual consoles. Most people are simply selling their pre-sale 
tickets;

60% of which have no Playstation to back the ticket. All of the Gamespot
participating stores (e.g. EB Games) which did pre-orders received a lot
less than originally expected. Thus, many of the pre-sale tickets being 
sold

on eBay for around $4,000 are simply rain checks for units being released
well into 1st quarter 2007.

$5,000 and it's yours.

Tarek

Re: [MBZ] Turbo Diesels first gear start

[Hendrik Riessen]

We had a rather heated debate about wether MB turbo Diesels start in first 
or second, my logic was that they start in first to overcome turbo lag. I 
would think that a turbo Diesel starting in second would be a bit sluggish.

However I have no proof of this and MB turbo Diesels are very rare in Oz.

Hendrik
with a turboed Nissan which always starts in first unless I mess up

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From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turbo Diesels first gear start



Hendrik Riessen wrote:

Now that Marshall has returned from his little journey into the unknown
pwehaps we could ask him wether he has any definitive literature in 
regards

to wether MB turbo Diesels start in first or second gear. I don't want to
start that arguement again but I don't think it ever got resolved one way 
or

the other.

Hendrik
who had better sign this so Marshall will take notice


Which engine in which year and model car? Most 80s and later diesels
start in 1st.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 400,000 miles and still ticking

[Luther]

Where do you live??  I might be interested in the drive train when the body 
gives way.


On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:09:10 -0600, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>A LONG way, based on my 300k inspection.  Unfortunately, it had cancer
> when i got it.  The cancer was in remission for 6 years, (after throwing 2
> grand at it) but now has come back, and I don't have the money to try
> putting it into remission again.  So we are just cruising along.  It will
> die of cancer some year, but until then we are cruising.  21 years in the
> rust belt is still pretty respectable.
>
> At 05:00 PM 11/16/2006, you wrote:
>> Keep changing that oil. Who knows how far it may go?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth
>> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:28 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: [MBZ] 400,000 miles and still ticking
>>
>>
>> Since K'leb is gracious enough to let us slip a picture in once in a while,
>> I thought some folks might like this one.  It was taken when my 86 SDL
>> rolled up 400,000 miles.  It is a wonderful car.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Loren Faeth
>>
>



-- 
Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
'85 300D (280,176) parts car

Re: [MBZ] RDB color, idle screw and throttle link. adjust

[Jeff Zedic]

Perhaps Marshall or someone can point you to the best wesite. I lost all my
bookmarks in a security "upgrade"

Is this for a 123 or 126? I can search the cd and attach the pdf file.

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

Re: [MBZ] RDB color, idle screw and throttle link. adjust

[Marshall Booth]

Christopher McCann wrote:
Took a harder look at it during a smoke break...it is gold. Now, it WAS  all the way in and I adjusted it out and it is fine. EXCEPT that my  idle is too low. 
  
  Question: Is too low an idle ALWAYS the idle adjust screw or could it  be the throttle linkages? (or both)? What do you adjust the linkages  for?
  
  Chris


Adjust the idle UP to 750 rpm! Loosen the lock nut and adjust the idle 
adjust screw! it's described and pictured in 7.1-100 on page 3


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)

[Marshall Booth]

Christopher McCann wrote:
Wow - that is exactly what the ticket says when the Indie upgraded mine...but mine is silver! Time for a talk with Emery. 
  
  I better polish it good first to make absolutely certain it is silver and not dirty goldish sorta silvery.
  
  It was all the way in and if a gold bolt is all the way in to run right, the IP is nearly shot and that is not a good thing.
  
  CM


Polish it hard and it will turn silver! The gold color is just a plated 
surface (cadmium?).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Playstation

[Kevin]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 02:30:24PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
> > Another, meaning one? You can get a lot more than just one for that kind
> > of cash :)
> 
> You have to consider the whole picture.  The way it works with these
> cars is you pay $2000 for the car, then another $3000 in making up for
> deferred maintenance over the next year. ;)

Actually, none of the four have been that bad. That includes the sorely 
neglected 78 300D. 

Now the cherokee I picked up last month... I've easily spent more on it than
I paid for it just making it nice enough that I don't feel obligated to pull
over and put it out of its misery.

K

Re: [MBZ] Playstation

[David Brodbeck]

Kevin wrote:
> Another, meaning one? You can get a lot more than just one for that kind
> of cash :)
>   

You have to consider the whole picture.  The way it works with these
cars is you pay $2000 for the car, then another $3000 in making up for
deferred maintenance over the next year. ;)

Re: [MBZ] Turbo Diesels first gear start

[Marshall Booth]

Hendrik Riessen wrote:
Now that Marshall has returned from his little journey into the unknown 
pwehaps we could ask him wether he has any definitive literature in regards 
to wether MB turbo Diesels start in first or second gear. I don't want to 
start that arguement again but I don't think it ever got resolved one way or 
the other.


Hendrik
who had better sign this so Marshall will take notice 


Which engine in which year and model car? Most 80s and later diesels 
start in 1st.


Marshall
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] Playstation

[Kevin]

Another, meaning one? You can get a lot more than just one for that kind
of cash :)

K

On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 04:10:37PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote:
> I think that for $5,000, I would rather buy another old Mercedes.

Re: [MBZ] Playstation

[R A Bennell]

I think that for $5,000, I would rather buy another old Mercedes.

Randy

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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:05 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'; 'Banned List';
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Playstation


It wasn't a stampede at all. It was pretty well organized, with a list and
an hourly roll call. The Best Buy I've been camping at since Tuesday
afternoon was guaranteed at least 26 total and ended up with 34; 25 of which
were the premium 60GB editions. In retrospect, it was well worth enduring
the pouring rain and extreme cold.

Anyone seriously interested please contact me off-list. I have 3 60GB and 2
20GB, ready to ship. All of them include the unreleased Talladega Nights DVD
in the new Blu-Ray format for true 1080p resolution. You can see for
yourselves what these are currently going for on eBay.

Keep in mind that most of the Playstation consoles currently on eBay aren't
even actual consoles. Most people are simply selling their pre-sale tickets;
60% of which have no Playstation to back the ticket. All of the Gamespot
participating stores (e.g. EB Games) which did pre-orders received a lot
less than originally expected. Thus, many of the pre-sale tickets being sold
on eBay for around $4,000 are simply rain checks for units being released
well into 1st quarter 2007.

$5,000 and it's yours.

Tarek


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:56 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Playstation

> < premium edition Playstation 3 with free Talladega Nights Blue Ray DVD is
ready to 
> ship. $5,000.00 firm
> Tarek>>
> 
Don't tell me you were one of those knuckleheads who camped out for days in 
front of some store so that you could stampede inside at 6AM to buy one.
Surely 
not

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Playstation

[Tarek Elshenawy]

It wasn't a stampede at all. It was pretty well organized, with a list and
an hourly roll call. The Best Buy I've been camping at since Tuesday
afternoon was guaranteed at least 26 total and ended up with 34; 25 of which
were the premium 60GB editions. In retrospect, it was well worth enduring
the pouring rain and extreme cold.

Anyone seriously interested please contact me off-list. I have 3 60GB and 2
20GB, ready to ship. All of them include the unreleased Talladega Nights DVD
in the new Blu-Ray format for true 1080p resolution. You can see for
yourselves what these are currently going for on eBay.

Keep in mind that most of the Playstation consoles currently on eBay aren't
even actual consoles. Most people are simply selling their pre-sale tickets;
60% of which have no Playstation to back the ticket. All of the Gamespot
participating stores (e.g. EB Games) which did pre-orders received a lot
less than originally expected. Thus, many of the pre-sale tickets being sold
on eBay for around $4,000 are simply rain checks for units being released
well into 1st quarter 2007.

$5,000 and it's yours.

Tarek


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:56 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Playstation

> < premium edition Playstation 3 with free Talladega Nights Blue Ray DVD is
ready to 
> ship. $5,000.00 firm
> Tarek>>
> 
Don't tell me you were one of those knuckleheads who camped out for days in 
front of some store so that you could stampede inside at 6AM to buy one.
Surely 
not

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Paint questions

[Dave Wakin]

You can get 1500 or even 2000 wetdry sand paper, sand them out, then buff 
with an electric buffer.


Be very careful with the edges of the sandpaper, as they will leave 
scratches. Let the paper soak over night in water before using as well.


If they are real bad, you can sand them and spray some new clear over top, 
blending it it. Then use the paper and buffer to finish. This is assuming 
you have BC/CC on your car.


Dave Wakin

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From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Paint questions



My 1990 300SEL has pretty good paint, but it has some pretty significant
scratches on the hood and roof.  They are consistent with a overuse of a
cheap carwashes.  My owner's manual has a discussion about paint care in
it and it shows a picture that looks exactly like the haze and scratches
on my car.   None of the scratches are through the paint, they are only
surface.  I was wondering is anyone has had a car wet sanded to fix this
problem.



I tried waxing this SEVERAL times.  I used the Meguiars 3 step process
that is supposed to remove most surface scratches, so I need something a
little more drastic.



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 133K

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Re: [MBZ] I found one!

[kevin kraly]

(They both have the same round connector, but the better design also
has a 2-pin rectangular connector.

There appears to be one round connector with no additional rectangular 2 pin 
connector, so it appears that I have the earlier design.  I guess it does 
work if it stops when corked off.  I haven't allowed it to run long enough 
to time out, so I'll try letting it run for a while to see what happens. 
I'll also have to check the mounting setup again.  The football is there, 
and maybe, that bracket is the actual mounting bracket.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1983 300SD 284K miles 

Re: [MBZ] Paint questions

[Mitch Haley]

Donald Snook wrote:
> 
> I tried waxing this SEVERAL times.  I used the Meguiars 3 step process
> that is supposed to remove most surface scratches, so I need something a
> little more drastic.

Did that include clay?

Re: [MBZ] Some people are strange

[Rich Thomas]

Well, with a car like that he better invest in some new rubber for it 
too or he might get both.


--R (reminiscing)

By the way, my brother is only
37 is not married and has no kids.
  

Re: [MBZ] Playstation

[RELNGSON]

> < premium edition Playstation 3 with free Talladega Nights Blue Ray DVD is 
> ready to 
> ship. $5,000.00 firm
> Tarek>>
> 
Don't tell me you were one of those knuckleheads who camped out for days in 
front of some store so that you could stampede inside at 6AM to buy one. Surely 
not

RLE

Re: [MBZ] RDB color, idle screw and throttle link. adjust

[Christopher McCann]

I do not have the service manual on CD. Are any of those braingears  sites up 
and working - half the time they don't (work) or aren't (up).
  
  Thanks!
  
  Kinda strange that on one 300 mile trip, RDB, idle and throttle links (maybe) 
all go screwy. 
  
  

Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You should look at the manual for this 
job and see the proper lengths to
adust the rods to. You adjust them so that the linkage hits the full load
stop with the pedal to the floor.


Do you have the sevice manula on CD?
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My 1990 300SEL has pretty good paint, but it has some pretty significant
scratches on the hood and roof.  They are consistent with a overuse of a
cheap carwashes.  My owner's manual has a discussion about paint care in
it and it shows a picture that looks exactly like the haze and scratches
on my car.   None of the scratches are through the paint, they are only
surface.  I was wondering is anyone has had a car wet sanded to fix this
problem. =20

=20

I tried waxing this SEVERAL times.  I used the Meguiars 3 step process
that is supposed to remove most surface scratches, so I need something a
little more drastic. =20

=20

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 133K=20

Re: [MBZ] Some people are strange

[Mitch Haley]

Donald Snook wrote:
> 
> My Brother emailed me earlier because he is buying a 1986 Buick Station
> Wagon. He has wanted a big wagon (with the wood on the side) for years.
> He also sent me a link to the American Station Wagon Owners Association.
> He wants to join when he gets the car.  By the way, my brother is only
> 37 is not married and has no kids.  Strange.

Get him a DVD of the home improvement episode where Tim & Al went to
a Highland festival. Al had a totally cherried out Chevy wagon.
(~37 and single would describe Al)
Tim tossed a caber through Al's car.

Re: [MBZ] Some people are strange

[David Brodbeck]

Donald Snook wrote:
> My Brother emailed me earlier because he is buying a 1986 Buick Station
> Wagon. He has wanted a big wagon (with the wood on the side) for years.
> He also sent me a link to the American Station Wagon Owners Association.
> He wants to join when he gets the car.  By the way, my brother is only
> 37 is not married and has no kids.  Strange.  
>   

I had a Volvo wagon for a while and I miss it.  Station wagons are a
great compromise -- you can haul a lot of stuff, but they're not
top-heavy like a van and they usually get the same fuel economy as a
sedan.  (Sometimes better -- the straight-backed wagon shape has better
aerodynamics than a typical sedan's notch-back.)

Re: [MBZ] 2006 Idiot Awards

[David Brodbeck]

Luther wrote:
>> Number Two Idiot of 2006
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Early this year, some Boeing employees on the airfield decided to
>> steal a life raft from one of the 747s...

Funny, but old, and unfortunately not true:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/dumdum/locator.asp

On the other hand...
http://www.micom.net/oops/rubber_01.jpg
http://www.micom.net/oops/rubber_02.jpg

[MBZ] Some people are strange

[Donald Snook]

My Brother emailed me earlier because he is buying a 1986 Buick Station
Wagon. He has wanted a big wagon (with the wood on the side) for years.
He also sent me a link to the American Station Wagon Owners Association.
He wants to join when he gets the car.  By the way, my brother is only
37 is not married and has no kids.  Strange.  

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 133K 

Re: [MBZ] PLAYSTATION 3 FOR SALE

[Rich Thomas]

But aren't there strict gun control laws?  How could this happen?

I don't think this is truthful.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

A couple thugs robbed some shoppers of their Play Stations at gun point in
broad daylight yesterday while people were queued up waiting to purchase
theirs.

On 11/17/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Ooooh I'll have 5 at that price.

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;
  

"'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:59 PM
Subject: [MBZ] PLAYSTATION 3 FOR SALE




If you want to buy your kid a Playstation 3, now's the chance! 60GB
premium
edition Playstation 3 with free Talladega Nights Blue Ray DVD is ready
  

to


ship.

$5,000.00 firm

Tarek



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Re: [MBZ] RDB color, idle screw and throttle link. adjust

[Jeff Zedic]

You should look at the manual for this job and see the proper lengths to
adust the rods to. You adjust them so that the linkage hits the full load
stop with the pedal to the floor.


Do you have the sevice manula on CD?

Re: [MBZ] Ford Escort Diesel Wagon on ebay item #

[Donald Snook]

Mitch Haley wrote: 

 

"Seriously what? 50mpg? This is one eBay mpg claim that's feasible. 

The 1.6 gassers got over 40mpg at 60mph, the 2.0 diesel might touch
60mpg at 

a steady 60mph." 

 

I wrote "Seriously?" because I had no idea they made an escort diesel
wagon.  I forgot about the Tempo diesels.   I hate escorts and I always
thought they were lousy cars.  I am sure my dislike is colored by the
fact that I was rear ended in my first benz by a woman driving an
escort.  It was a 1971 250. I loved that car.  A friend of mine spent
$7000 making it perfect.  I bought it for $3000. It had gorgeous red
paint that was so deep you could fall into it. The interior (in white)
had been completely redone with all MB parts. It was a pretty fast car
with the 2.8 engine and the goofy carbs adjusted properly.  

 

I loved that car. The stupid escort hit me just above the bumper going
pretty fast.  It demolished the back end and nearly totaled the car. It
was never the same and I have yet to get past the fact that an escort
did that much damage to my first benz. 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 133K 

[MBZ] 2006 Idiot Awards

[Luther]

Enjoy!

> Number One Idiot of 2006
>
>
>
>
> I am a medical student currently doing a rotation in toxicology at
> the poison control center. Today, this woman called in very upset
> because she caught her little daughter eating ants. I quickly
> reassured her that the ants are not harmful and there would be no
> need to bring her daughter into the hospital. She calmed down and
> at the end of the conversation happened to mention that she gave
her
> daughter some ant poison to eat in order to kill
>
> the ants. I told her that she better bring her daughter into the
> emergency room right away.
>
>
>
>
> Here's your sign, lady. Wear it with pride.
>
>

>
> Number Two Idiot of 2006
>
>
>
>
> Early this year, some Boeing employees on the airfield decided to
> steal a life raft from one of the 747s. They were successful in
> getting it out of the plane and home. Shortly after they took it
> for a float on the river, they noticed a Coast Guard helicopter
> coming towards them. It turned out
>
> that the chopper was homing in on the emergency locator beacon
that
> activated when the raft was inflated. They are no longer employed
at
> Boeing.
>
>
>
>
> Here's your sign, guys. Don't get it wet; the paint might run.
>
>
>
>
> ~
>
>
>
>
> Number Three Idiot of 2006
>
>
>
>
> A man, wanting to rob a downtown Bank of America, walked into the
> branch and wrote, "this iz a stikkup. Put all your muny in this
> bag." While standing in line, waiting to give his note to the
> teller, he began to worry that
>
> someone had seen him write the note and might call the police
before
> he reached the teller's window. So he left the Bank of America and
> crossed the street to the Wells Fargo Bank. After waiting a few
> minutes in line, he handed his note to the Wells Fargo teller. She
> read it and, surmising from his spelling errors that he wasn't
the
> brightest light in the harbor, told him that she could not accept
> his stickup note because it was written on a Bank of America
deposit
> slip and that he would either have to fill out a Wells Fargo
deposit
> slip or go back to Bank of America. Looking somewhat defeated, the
> man said, "OK" and left. He was arrested a few minutes later, as
he
> was waiting in line back at Bank of America.
>
>
>
>
> Don't bother with this guy's sign. He probably couldn't read it
anyway.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> Number Four Idiot of 2006
>
>
>
>
> A motorist was unknowingly caught in an automated speed trap that
> measured his speed using radar and photographed his car. He later
> received in the mail a ticket for $40 and a photo of his car.
> Instead of payment, he sent the police department a photograph of
> $40. Several days later, he received a letter from the police that
> contained another picture, this time of handcuffs. He immediately
> mailed in his $40.
>
>
>
>
> Smartbutt. But you still get a sign
>
>
>
>
> ~~
>
>
>
>
> Number Five Idiot of 2006
>
>
>
>
> A guy walked into a little corner store with a shotgun and
demanded
> all of the cash from the cash drawer. After the cashier put the
cash
> in a bag, the robber saw a bottle of Scotch that he wanted behind
> the counter on the shelf. He told the cashier to put it in the bag
> as well, but the cashier
>
> refused and said, "Because I don't believe you are over 21." The
> robber said he was, but the clerk still refused to give it to him
> because she didn't believe him. At this point, the robber took his
> driver's license out of his wallet and gave it to the clerk. The
> clerk looked it over and agreed that
>
> the man was in fact over 21 and she put the Scotch in the bag. The
> robber then ran from the store with his loot. The cashier promptly
> called the police and gave the name and address of the robber
that
> he got off the license. They arrested the robber two hours later.
>
>
>
>
> This guy definitely needs a sign.
>
>
>
>
> ~~
>
>
>
>
> Idiot Number Six of 2006
>
>
>
>
> A pair of Michigan robbers entered a record shop nervously waving
> revolvers. The first one shouted, "Nobody move!" When his partner
> moved, the startled first bandit shot him.
>
>
>
>
> This guy doesn't even deserve a sign.
>
>
>
>
> ~
>
>
>
>
> Idiot Number Seven of 2006
>
>
>
>
> Arkansas: Seems this guy wanted some beer pretty badly. He decided
> that he'd just throw a cinder block through a liquor store window,
> grab some booze, and run. So he lifted the cinder block and heaved
> it over his head at the window. The cinder block bounced back
> knocking him unconscious. It seems the liquor store window was
made
> of plexi-glass. The whole event was caught on videotape. Yep,
here's
> your sign.
>
>
>



-- 
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'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (

Re: [MBZ] I found one!

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 11/16/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It looks like I gotta do some huntin' to
find this one, or should I just sell it?



Can I call dibs?  I need another car and I'm right down the road from
you in SE Portland.  You could have visitation rights if you missed
her!  ;)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] cheap 95 wagon

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> Who cares?  It's gasoline.

I might care, it's the last year of one of the best chassis MBZ ever built. 
If I didn't have a 201.34 sitting here waiting for my 2.5 turbo engine,
I'd give serious thought into buying that wagon and selling the engine.
Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] PLAYSTATION 3 FOR SALE

[andrew strasfogel]

A couple thugs robbed some shoppers of their Play Stations at gun point in
broad daylight yesterday while people were queued up waiting to purchase
theirs.

On 11/17/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Ooooh I'll have 5 at that price.

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> If you want to buy your kid a Playstation 3, now's the chance! 60GB
> premium
> edition Playstation 3 with free Talladega Nights Blue Ray DVD is ready
to
> ship.
>
> $5,000.00 firm
>
> Tarek
>
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Re: [MBZ] RDB color, idle screw and throttle link. adjust

[Christopher McCann]

Took a harder look at it during a smoke break...it is gold. Now, it WAS  all 
the way in and I adjusted it out and it is fine. EXCEPT that my  idle is too 
low. 
  
  Question: Is too low an idle ALWAYS the idle adjust screw or could it  be the 
throttle linkages? (or both)? What do you adjust the linkages  for?
  
  Chris
  
  

Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  It should certainly be Gold colored.

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher McCann" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)


> Wow - that is exactly what the ticket says when the Indie upgraded
mine...but mine is silver! Time for a talk with Emery.
>
>   I better polish it good first to make absolutely certain it is silver
and not dirty goldish sorta silvery.
>
>   It was all the way in and if a gold bolt is all the way in to run right,
the IP is nearly shot and that is not a good thing.
>
>   CM
>
>   THANKS RUSTY!
>
> Rusty Cullens  wrote:  000 074 26 74
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher McCann"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:04 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)
>
>
> > I know this was posted, but my Trash already auto-deleted the message.
> Now that I discovered that my silver bolt was upgraded to another  silver
> bolt ($90 - no less!), I want to have the right part number b4 I
complain.
> >
> >   Thanks, as always,
> >
> >   Chris
> >
> >
> > Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
> > -2006 GSD, "Anke"
> > -1985 300SD, 217K, "Wulf"
> > -1982 300Dt, 117K, "little blue klatter box"
> > -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, "One Banger"
> >
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 95 wagon

[andrew strasfogel]

Who cares?  It's gasoline.



On 11/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-95-Mercedes-Benz-e-320-Wagon-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ260053591913QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 87 300D

[andrew strasfogel]

What a sh**ty array of photos.

"I would feel comfortable driving it anywhere" accurately translated really
means "I am a raving lunatic with a death wish!"




On 11/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Turbo-Mercedes-300D-Turbo-Diesel-30MPG-Great-Car_W0QQitemZ170050413083QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] Ford Escort Diesel Wagon on ebay item # 200047896459

[Mitch Haley]

Donald Snook wrote:
> 
> Seriously?
> 

Seriously what? 50mpg? This is one eBay mpg claim that's feasible. 
The 1.6 gassers got over 40mpg at 60mph, the 2.0 diesel might touch 60mpg at 
a steady 60mph. The non-wagon Escorts were actually light enough to be decent
drivers with 50hp, the wagons less so, and the Tempos are probably slower than
a 240D stick. My friend's well worn $200 Tempo could get 56mpg when driven
gently. It's not quite a match for a CRX HF or a Chevy Sprint, but it comes
a lot closer than a 190d could.

Re: [MBZ] 400,000 miles and still ticking

[Mike Canfield]

Very niceAnd at 75MPH to boot.

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:27 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 400,000 miles and still ticking


Since K'leb is gracious enough to let us slip a picture in once in a 
while,

I thought some folks might like this one.  It was taken when my 86 SDL
rolled up 400,000 miles.  It is a wonderful car.




Loren Faeth







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Re: [MBZ] Ford Escort Diesel Wagon on ebay item # 200047896459

[Tyler Backman]

That looks like a VW rabbit valve cover...


On Nov 17, 2006, at 7:01 AM, Donald Snook wrote:


Seriously?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-Ford-Escort-Diesel-Station- 
Wagon-50-

MPG_W0QQitemZ200047896459QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6229QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 133K

Re: [MBZ] I love 115's

[Tyler Backman]

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The front windshield, or the door window seals? I replaced my front  
windshield seal already.


On Nov 17, 2006, at 6:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Its caused by leaking window seals.  If they are not replaced, this is
what you get.

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Re: [MBZ] I love 115's

[ts]

I am courting a 1975 240D with 90K miles in the western pa area. Stick 
shift.   Up on a lift next week.  Only rust I saw was minor surface in trunk 
under matt and two bubbles on rear fenders about size of a quarter.


Mechanically it appears very good drives great.  Heated garage keep, 
original owner.  Now it gets to work for a living and not be a piece of 
furniture


The groups HVAC fan 115 chassis thing has got me scarred.  I talked to a guy 
in Chicago who just did the change out on a 220 gasser, a 1969 I think.  All 
he said was  *&^%$


This fan on this works but only one speed.  Is that the infamous "probably 
the switch" thing I always get or sign of something more.We will see...


Anyone have an old Becker that fits this car that works AM/FM Europa?  The 
original MB circa 1975 GPS does not work as well if you have one of them too


Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA
1979 240D 103K miles


- Original Message - 
From: "Tyler Backman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love 115's



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My 240D rusted a hole in the passenger side floor exactly like that,
without significant rust elsewhere on the car. I suspect some sort of
design flaw... I just welded in some new metal.

Tyler

On Nov 16, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-1975-240D-W115-CLASSIC-
DIESEL-BIO-
WVO-115_W0QQitemZ160052831160QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt
em
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  87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] 400,000 miles and still ticking

[ts]

Loren good landmark event! Tom
- Original Message - 
From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:27 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 400,000 miles and still ticking


Since K'leb is gracious enough to let us slip a picture in once in a 
while,

I thought some folks might like this one.  It was taken when my 86 SDL
rolled up 400,000 miles.  It is a wonderful car.




Loren Faeth







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Re: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)

[Rusty Cullens]

It should certainly be Gold colored.

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)


> Wow - that is exactly what the ticket says when the Indie upgraded
mine...but mine is silver! Time for a talk with Emery.
>
>   I better polish it good first to make absolutely certain it is silver
and not dirty goldish sorta silvery.
>
>   It was all the way in and if a gold bolt is all the way in to run right,
the IP is nearly shot and that is not a good thing.
>
>   CM
>
>   THANKS RUSTY!
>
> Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  000 074 26 74
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher McCann"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:04 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)
>
>
> > I know this was posted, but my Trash already auto-deleted the message.
> Now that I discovered that my silver bolt was upgraded to another  silver
> bolt ($90 - no less!), I want to have the right part number b4 I
complain.
> >
> >   Thanks, as always,
> >
> >   Chris
> >
> >
> > Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
> > -2006 GSD, "Anke"
> > -1985 300SD, 217K, "Wulf"
> > -1982 300Dt, 117K, "little blue klatter box"
> > -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, "One Banger"
> >
> > -
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Re: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)

[Steve MacSween]

IIRC when I upgraded my blue SD, the new RDB I got from the dealer was
silver not gold. And it did the trick.

But that was a few years ago so maybe this got lost with some brain cells
along the way ;-).

mac

on 11/17/06 11:14 AM, Christopher McCann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Wow - that is exactly what the ticket says when the Indie upgraded mine...but
> mine is silver! Time for a talk with Emery. 

Re: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)

[Christopher McCann]

Wow - that is exactly what the ticket says when the Indie upgraded mine...but 
mine is silver! Time for a talk with Emery. 
  
  I better polish it good first to make absolutely certain it is silver and not 
dirty goldish sorta silvery.
  
  It was all the way in and if a gold bolt is all the way in to run right, the 
IP is nearly shot and that is not a good thing.
  
  CM
  
  THANKS RUSTY! 

Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  000 074 26 74


- Original Message -
From: "Christopher McCann" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:04 AM
Subject: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)


> I know this was posted, but my Trash already auto-deleted the message.
Now that I discovered that my silver bolt was upgraded to another  silver
bolt ($90 - no less!), I want to have the right part number b4 I  complain.
>
>   Thanks, as always,
>
>   Chris
>
>
> Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
> -2006 GSD, "Anke"
> -1985 300SD, 217K, "Wulf"
> -1982 300Dt, 117K, "little blue klatter box"
> -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, "One Banger"
>
> -
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I had a Topaz diesel, the starters for the car were $750 years ago. The
engine was made by Mazda and they got good gas mileage but could not get out
of their own way. 

I got mine from a shop who could not get the car to run, seemed it ran out
of fuel never to run again. They burnt up starter trying. I paid $200 for
the car, found a start for $350 with 1 year warranty. Loosened fuel line,
pressurized fuel tank with shop air using a rag and air blower in fuel cap
neck, started right up, next day drove from NC to Florida in the car. One
year later and 4 starters I sold car for $1. 

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Seriously? 

 

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Re: [MBZ] I found one!

[Jim Cathey]

Well, I've got the one with the round connector, the "steaming POS," 
but


(They both have the same round connector, but the better design also
has a 2-pin rectangular connector.  The wiring of these two round
connectors is of course quite different.)

hey, it actually works when it's plugged in!  It functions properly 
when the

driver's door is locked and unlocked.  However, there must be a leak
somewhere because the pump never cycles off when it's hooked into the
system.  I'm assuming that it must sense vacuum/pressure and cycle off 
once

the doors are locked/unlocked.


It has not one, but _two_ long-throw small-diameter snap-action
diaphragm switch/valves inside.  Huge wear points.  Non-replaceable
parts.  Also an electronics board to time-out the motor if it doesn't
shut off after awhile.  Made by Hella, IIRC.

The superior replacement design has a small short-throw bidirectional
pressure switch, signal size not power size, and electronics to operate
it.  Its motor runs one way for pressure, the other for vacuum.  The
POS has moving valves to make the switch, and the motor only runs one
way.  (It's a piston pump, actually that part looks pretty good.  It
wouldn't matter which way the motor ran.)  The new design has a rotary
pump of some sort.

The only way I could get it to stop running was either plugging the 
outlet

with my finger (big nono according to Jim C), or by unplugging it.  The


No, that's perfectly fine and the way you test the pump itself.  If 
yours

snapped (when both sucking and blowing) and shut off right away when
corked off rather than running on for awhile then it's (still) good.
In which case you have a leaking line or actuator.  I recommend looking
in the trunk area first, those seem to be, for whatever reason, more
fragile than what's in the doors.  You can cork off the line where
it goes to the filler flap door lock and trunk, if you re-plumb as
required to get the doors hooked to the pump.  For that you'll just
have to work it out 'by eye', I no longer remember exactly how mine
was plumbed and yours might be a little different anyway.  But it
ain't rocket science, it's just a single pipe that goes (eventually)
to six places.  Seven, if you count the pump itself.

Another question is where the heck does the pump mount?  Mine was just 
lying
on the right side of the spare tire well with a foamy cover around it 
and a


The SDL's (new-style) pump is mounted inside a foam football that's
attached in the RR corner of the spare tire well with a plastic bracket
and two plastic expand-o-screws.  I'd expect the older car to have
something very similar.

If your old-style pump dies I believe it is possible to retrofit a
new-style pump to it, but I have never done so.

-- Jim

[MBZ] Trunk latch

[David Stroud]

Hello, all.  My trunk will not open. The battery is dead so the vacuum system 
is down and the latch does not automatically release when I unlock the driver's 
door. The key will turn the lock on the trunk and the button will push in, but 
the latch will not release. Please help!

Thanks,

David
1985 380 SL (78k miles)

Re: [MBZ] Deperately need HELP-Woodward/Fargo, OK

[Joseph Shaw]

No problem-

Thanks for thinking of it though!

Michael



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Sorry - though it's not close to Norman, I'm also headed the opposite
direction for the next three weekends -- bad timing.

On 11/16/06, Joseph Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No problem, Kaleb-just checking if it is CLOSe and not too inconvenient 
for

> anyone!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Michael
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[MBZ] Ford Escort Diesel Wagon on ebay item # 200047896459

[Donald Snook]

Seriously? 

 

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Re: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)

[Rusty Cullens]

000 074 26 74


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> I know this was posted, but my Trash already auto-deleted the message.
Now that I discovered that my silver bolt was upgraded to another  silver
bolt ($90 - no less!), I want to have the right part number b4 I  complain.
>
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>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Dash board cracks

[Hendrik Riessen]

You know when they say free shipping you often find a little asterix next to 
itthat's usally the disclaimer that says to the continental states. 
Across the pond costs a bit more.


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In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:48:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sorry  just remembered, there is another way, it's called a coverlay and 
my

Mum's  190E has one, which looks quite good
http://www.coverlaymfg.com/index.php?crn=221
This is the easiest fix  (no removing of dash required) but unfortunatley
shipping to Oz is  expensive.
Now if we could only find a fix for builders crack, we'd be  laughing.



Rusty sells Coverlay and the shipping is free.  I got the black one  for 
my
300SD and sprayed it with Krylon's Fusion for Plastics.  The  espresso 
satin is

very close to the original dark brown color.

Looks good.

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles
98 ML 320, 146 K  miles

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Re: [MBZ] PLAYSTATION 3 FOR SALE

[Hendrik Riessen]

Ooooh I'll have 5 at that price.

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Re: [MBZ] Turbo Diesels first gear start

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Im sure marshall can come up with the actual MB lit that says how they 
are supposed to be.


Hendrik Riessen wrote:

Now that Marshall has returned from his little journey into the unknown 
pwehaps we could ask him wether he has any definitive literature in regards 
to wether MB turbo Diesels start in first or second gear. I don't want to 
start that arguement again but I don't think it ever got resolved one way or 
the other.


Hendrik
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Re: [MBZ] secret message for Kaleb - 107 wheels

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I work on saturdays, I am off on sundays though.

OK Don wrote:


How about Sat. - Dec. 2nd? Seems I'm hosting multiple T-day dinners
this year, want to join us?

On 11/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


yea, when do you want to get together for them wheels?






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Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 coupe

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You cant think of anything but 603's in various cars!!

OK Don wrote:


Yup - that would be a nice home for the 603 !!!

On 11/16/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250050523151


Now there's a new home for Loren's SDL, assuming it's not a rust bucket.
$2000 Buy it Now is less than rust repair costs. And how many 603.96
coups are there in this country? Sure to be the only kid on the block
with one.






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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Alternator mystery

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Your new alternator is bad.

carbucks wrote:


Need some list wisdom about a problem I'm having with my 84 300SD.

My wife was driving to work with most the electrical services on 
(wipers, lights, fan, radio). The radio died first and then the 
wipers.No alternator light came on.  She couldn't see because of the 
heavy rain, pulled over to the side of the road and turned the car off. 
It wouldn't start again. Had it towed home. She said the day before, the 
alt light had come on briefly. After charging the battery, it started 
right up.Decided to replace the alternator.


Completed that job today (the rain has stopped for the moment). When I 
started her up, all three emergency brake, alt and brake pad lights as 
well as the fuel reserve light stayed on even after the engine started. 
They would go out if I revved the engine, only to return at idle. Drove 
the car down the street and back and the lights finally went out. Took 
it for a longer drive and I heard the fan belt squealing. A few minutes 
later the belt stopped making noise, but the alt light was glowing 
faintly no matter what the engine speed.


Returned home and shut her down. Now when I go to start it, the only 
lights that come on are the glow plug and seat belt. They both go off at 
the appropriate times.


Any suggestions about next steps?

Thanks in advance,

Martin Buck
84 300SD
85 300SD




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[MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)

[Christopher McCann]

I know this was posted, but my Trash already auto-deleted the message.  Now 
that I discovered that my silver bolt was upgraded to another  silver bolt ($90 
- no less!), I want to have the right part number b4 I  complain.
  
  Thanks, as always,
  
  Chris
  

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Its caused by leaking window seals.  If they are not replaced, this is 
what you get.

Tyler Backman wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> My 240D rusted a hole in the passenger side floor exactly like that,  
> without significant rust elsewhere on the car. I suspect some sort of  
> design flaw... I just welded in some new metal.
> 
> Tyler
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Re: [MBZ] Dash board cracks

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:48:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sorry  just remembered, there is another way, it's called a coverlay and my 
Mum's  190E has one, which looks quite good  
http://www.coverlaymfg.com/index.php?crn=221
This is the easiest fix  (no removing of dash required) but unfortunatley 
shipping to Oz is  expensive.
Now if we could only find a fix for builders crack, we'd be  laughing.



Rusty sells Coverlay and the shipping is free.  I got the black one  for my 
300SD and sprayed it with Krylon's Fusion for Plastics.  The  espresso satin is 
very close to the original dark brown color.
 
Looks good.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 146 K  miles

[MBZ] PLAYSTATION 3 FOR SALE

[Tarek Elshenawy]

If you want to buy your kid a Playstation 3, now's the chance! 60GB premium
edition Playstation 3 with free Talladega Nights Blue Ray DVD is ready to
ship.

$5,000.00 firm

Tarek

Re: [MBZ] Turbo Diesels first gear start

[LarryT]

My '91 300D 2.5T (W124 Turbo) starts in 1st but upshifts to 2nd very quickly 
unless the pedal is depressed fully.


OTOH, my '78 240D (W123 Non-Turbo) starts in 2nd (out of 4) unless I engage 
kick-down - this is exactly what is described in the Owners Manual - which 
is the best place to get a definitive answer to this question.


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Subject: [MBZ] Turbo Diesels first gear start



Now that Marshall has returned from his little journey into the unknown
pwehaps we could ask him wether he has any definitive literature in 
regards

to wether MB turbo Diesels start in first or second gear. I don't want to
start that arguement again but I don't think it ever got resolved one way 
or

the other.

Hendrik
who had better sign this so Marshall will take notice

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Alternator mystery

[LarryT]

Along with the GP relay, check to make sure the rear window defogger is not 
on all the time - they also draw a lot of juice.
My old W108 used to drain the battery when I got into the bad habit of 
leaving the rear defogger on - started keeping it off except when needed and 
battery problem stopped.


AS far as a new alt being bad -  got a bad one a couple of months ago from 
Rusty - they replaced it instantly without questions.  I also replaced the 
battery at the same time - IMO the battery was old and could not recover 
from being drained so far.


The alt light cannot be trusted to accurately portray the health of the 
charging system, IMHO.  As Jim C. suggests, a clamp-on DC ammeter is very 
helpful as is some of the other battery/charging system tools.


Sears has some on sale at this time IIRC.
Good luck -

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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD Alternator mystery



Completed that job today (the rain has stopped for the moment). When I
started her up, all three emergency brake, alt and brake pad lights as
well as the fuel reserve light stayed on even after the engine started.
They would go out if I revved the engine, only to return at idle. Drove
the car down the street and back and the lights finally went out. Took
it for a longer drive and I heard the fan belt squealing. A few minutes
later the belt stopped making noise, but the alt light was glowing
faintly no matter what the engine speed.


Could you have a heavy load stuck on, such as the glow plugs?  It's
amazing what the clamp-on DC ammeter can help you sort out in a big
hurry.
Sometimes 'new' alternators are NFG.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Dash board cracks

[LarryT]

I had some damage to the dash in my W123 around the ign key area - the blue 
top material had been pulled away exposing the dark yellow foam below.  I 
investigated many possible fixes and eventually settled on filling the area 
with body filler - I used Evercoat Euro-Soft Polyester Glazing Putty.  The 
glazing putty often found in tubes like toothpaste is unsatisfactory IMO.


After filling and shaping the area I sprayed a blue dye to match the rest of 
the dash.  I did not match the pattern on the dash - where I made the repair 
it was not necessary.  If it is needed a material (cloth or a piece of 
dash??) with the proper pattern could be found and pressed into the still 
soft filler creating the pattern.


Anyway - that's what I did and the area is not noticable - and I covered the 
top of the dash with a DashTopper.


Thanlfully, the dash in my W124 300D is in great condition.

HTHs

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:04 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Dash board cracks



Does anyone know of any coumpound that satisfactorily  "repairs' dash
board cracks ?
Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Dash board cracks

[Trampas]

I have used some flexible material that is designed for fixing cracks in
plastic bumpers. It works great but I have not figured out how to put the
texture back on the dash. 

Years ago I saw a professional repair a dash, he had some spray that would
create the texture, however I have not been able to find such a thing. 

Trampas

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On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:47 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash board cracks

Far as I now the only two ways are replacement or taking it to a pro dash 
repair place, personally I just put a dash mat over the cracks(held in place

with srews) and pretend that is how it came from the factory. There was a 
genuine dash for a 201 on sharkbay a while back but they wanted big dollars 
for it and a few cracks in the dash are are low on my list of things to fix.
The cheapest good fix is a second hand one but they are rare.
Sorry just remembered, there is another way, it's called a coverlay and my 
Mum's 190E has one, which looks quite good 
http://www.coverlaymfg.com/index.php?crn=221
This is the easiest fix (no removing of dash required) but unfortunatley 
shipping to Oz is expensive.
Now if we could only find a fix for builders crack, we'd be laughing.

Hendrik
with lots of cracks, including the occasional builders crack

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash board cracks


>> Does anyone know of any coumpound that satisfactorily  "repairs' dash
>> board cracks ?
>
> Compound M?  (Money.)  I can say that Leatherique crack filler
> does not.  Perhaps if the bulk of the crack was filled with
> urethane foam, matching the bulk of the dash material, then
> the crack filler might work, but filler alone squeezes out
> like toothpaste when it gets hot!
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Alternator mystery

[Trampas]

When I worked as a mechanic I was the local electrical expert. The shop I
worked at however did not work on Mercedes, but one guy had his alternator
replaced twice on his 300SD, and was at his wits end as to why it would not
charge. So he brought it to the shop and with clamp on amp meter I noticed
alternator was putting out 60+ amps and the battery voltage was around 12V.
Glow plug relay was stuck on, the guy was mad. He had paid for two
alternators from other shops and we told him glow plug relay was bad. Thus
he started in on were we sure that was the problem. People are funny if you
had a bad experience at one shop they blame them all. 

Trampas

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On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD Alternator mystery

Definitely check the glow plug relay!  It will draw more current with 
the headlamps on than the alternator can put out -- I replaced the 
alternator in my Volvo for the same reason, battery kept going dead at 
night.  Finally nearly to stranded, but hit a bump and the headlights 
came back on!  Stupid relay had come apart inside.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] I found one!

[kevin kraly]

Another question is where the heck does the pump mount?  Mine was just lying 
on the right side of the spare tire well with a foamy cover around it and a 
metal bracket next to it.  I guess I'll have to see one in place.  I found 
an '82 300SD that may have some parts on it that I need, so I may just "feel 
that one up" to see how mine should be including the rear headliner panel.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1983 300SD 284K miles 

Re: [MBZ] I found one!

[kevin kraly]

the pump should time out if working properly with/without any door
lock function.

The only way I could get it to stop running was either plugging the outlet 
with my finger (big nono according to Jim C), or by unplugging it.  The 
device on the outside of the housing that has a spring loaded piece would 
snap to one side or the other depending on where I positioned the driver's 
door lock.  Where do I go next with this.  The central locking system isn't 
as big of a thing to me as the SEAT SPRINGS and POWER SEAT MECHANISM FIX.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1983 300SD 284K miles 

Re: [MBZ] I found one!

[John Freer]

Kevin,
the pump should time out if working properly with/without any door
lock function.

On 11/16/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

a 3-pin round
connector (and is a steaming POS),

Well, I've got the one with the round connector, the "steaming POS," but
hey, it actually works when it's plugged in!  It functions properly when the
driver's door is locked and unlocked.  However, there must be a leak
somewhere because the pump never cycles off when it's hooked into the
system.  I'm assuming that it must sense vacuum/pressure and cycle off once
the doors are locked/unlocked.  It looks like I gotta do some huntin' to
find this one, or should I just sell it?  Have you guys started the pool
yet?

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1983 300SD 284K miles


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Re: [MBZ] I found one!

[kevin kraly]

a 3-pin round
connector (and is a steaming POS),

Well, I've got the one with the round connector, the "steaming POS," but 
hey, it actually works when it's plugged in!  It functions properly when the 
driver's door is locked and unlocked.  However, there must be a leak 
somewhere because the pump never cycles off when it's hooked into the 
system.  I'm assuming that it must sense vacuum/pressure and cycle off once 
the doors are locked/unlocked.  It looks like I gotta do some huntin' to 
find this one, or should I just sell it?  Have you guys started the pool 
yet?


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1983 300SD 284K miles 

Re: [MBZ] Turbo Diesels first gear start

[kevin kraly]

FWIW, my new-to-me '83 300SD starts out in first.  It doesn't matter where 
the shifter is.  So there's my $.02.


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1983 300SD 284K miles 

Re: [MBZ] Dash board cracks

[Hendrik Riessen]

Far as I now the only two ways are replacement or taking it to a pro dash 
repair place, personally I just put a dash mat over the cracks(held in place 
with srews) and pretend that is how it came from the factory. There was a 
genuine dash for a 201 on sharkbay a while back but they wanted big dollars 
for it and a few cracks in the dash are are low on my list of things to fix.

The cheapest good fix is a second hand one but they are rare.
Sorry just remembered, there is another way, it's called a coverlay and my 
Mum's 190E has one, which looks quite good 
http://www.coverlaymfg.com/index.php?crn=221
This is the easiest fix (no removing of dash required) but unfortunatley 
shipping to Oz is expensive.

Now if we could only find a fix for builders crack, we'd be laughing.

Hendrik
with lots of cracks, including the occasional builders crack

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From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash board cracks



Does anyone know of any coumpound that satisfactorily  "repairs' dash
board cracks ?


Compound M?  (Money.)  I can say that Leatherique crack filler
does not.  Perhaps if the bulk of the crack was filled with
urethane foam, matching the bulk of the dash material, then
the crack filler might work, but filler alone squeezes out
like toothpaste when it gets hot!

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Turbo Diesels first gear start

[Hendrik Riessen]

Now that Marshall has returned from his little journey into the unknown 
pwehaps we could ask him wether he has any definitive literature in regards 
to wether MB turbo Diesels start in first or second gear. I don't want to 
start that arguement again but I don't think it ever got resolved one way or 
the other.


Hendrik
who had better sign this so Marshall will take notice 

Re: [MBZ] Dash board cracks

[Jim Cathey]

Does anyone know of any coumpound that satisfactorily  "repairs' dash
board cracks ?


Compound M?  (Money.)  I can say that Leatherique crack filler
does not.  Perhaps if the bulk of the crack was filled with
urethane foam, matching the bulk of the dash material, then
the crack filler might work, but filler alone squeezes out
like toothpaste when it gets hot!

-- Jim

[MBZ] Dash board cracks

[Peter Merle]

Does anyone know of any coumpound that satisfactorily  "repairs' dash
board cracks ?
Peter

Re: [MBZ] Strange Front trye wear pattern

[Peter Merle]

I could not find the reference about using th espreader bars in either
114 or 123 service manuals. In fact I could not find the alignment
section. Looked in group 40 tyres and in group 00. Any idea where it is?

I must also point out that after a bit of reseach on the internet
regarding toe-in issues all references make reference to weather the saw
tooth wear pattern leading edge is towards the centreline of vehicle or
away from it. In my case its neither in that the leading eadge is
pointing towards the front of the car. Is this still a tow-in issue??


Peter

[MBZ] secret message for Kaleb - 107 wheels

[OK Don]

How about Sat. - Dec. 2nd? Seems I'm hosting multiple T-day dinners
this year, want to join us?

On 11/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

yea, when do you want to get together for them wheels?



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"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] Deperately need HELP-Woodward/Fargo, OK

[OK Don]

Sorry - though it's not close to Norman, I'm also headed the opposite
direction for the next three weekends -- bad timing.

On 11/16/06, Joseph Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


No problem, Kaleb-just checking if it is CLOSe and not too inconvenient for
anyone!

Thanks!

Michael



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Alternator mystery

[Peter Frederick]

Definitely check the glow plug relay!  It will draw more current with 
the headlamps on than the alternator can put out -- I replaced the 
alternator in my Volvo for the same reason, battery kept going dead at 
night.  Finally nearly to stranded, but hit a bump and the headlights 
came back on!  Stupid relay had come apart inside.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 coupe

[OK Don]

Yup - that would be a nice home for the 603 !!!

On 11/16/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250050523151

Now there's a new home for Loren's SDL, assuming it's not a rust bucket.
$2000 Buy it Now is less than rust repair costs. And how many 603.96
coups are there in this country? Sure to be the only kid on the block
with one.



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Alternator mystery

[Jim Cathey]

Completed that job today (the rain has stopped for the moment). When I
started her up, all three emergency brake, alt and brake pad lights as
well as the fuel reserve light stayed on even after the engine started.
They would go out if I revved the engine, only to return at idle. Drove
the car down the street and back and the lights finally went out. Took
it for a longer drive and I heard the fan belt squealing. A few minutes
later the belt stopped making noise, but the alt light was glowing
faintly no matter what the engine speed.


Could you have a heavy load stuck on, such as the glow plugs?  It's
amazing what the clamp-on DC ammeter can help you sort out in a big 
hurry.

Sometimes 'new' alternators are NFG.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 400,000 miles and still ticking

[OK Don]

I still think that a 603 engine in a 107 or 126 coupe would be way
cool - to an old Diesel head anyway ---
I lost two 115 cars to cancer - sure was hard to part with them, but
they weren't safe to drive anymore.


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Re: [MBZ] Deperately need HELP-Woodward/Fargo, OK

[Joseph Shaw]

No problem, Kaleb-just checking if it is CLOSe and not too inconvenient for 
anyone!


Thanks!

Michael



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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deperately need HELP-Woodward/Fargo, OK
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:53:46 -0600

I would do it, but thats several hours west of me.

Joseph Shaw wrote:

>
> This is a bit off topic, and I have not posted anything on here for some
> time, but I have run into a jam in West OK-purchased an old truck on
> ebay, and am having a LOT of trouble getting things straight with the
> seller.
>
> If there is ANYONE close enough to this area to run an errand for me,
> get some info for me, recommend a towing service, storage place and tire
> shop, etc, I would greatly appreciate it, and possibly compenatse
> someone if it was out of their way and very inconvenient!
>
> Thanks!  If anyone could do this, please let me know ASAP-my trip to a
> family wedding pretty much depends on it at this point!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Michael
>
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[MBZ] 300SD Alternator mystery

[carbucks]

Need some list wisdom about a problem I'm having with my 84 300SD.

My wife was driving to work with most the electrical services on 
(wipers, lights, fan, radio). The radio died first and then the 
wipers.No alternator light came on.  She couldn't see because of the 
heavy rain, pulled over to the side of the road and turned the car off. 
It wouldn't start again. Had it towed home. She said the day before, the 
alt light had come on briefly. After charging the battery, it started 
right up.Decided to replace the alternator.


Completed that job today (the rain has stopped for the moment). When I 
started her up, all three emergency brake, alt and brake pad lights as 
well as the fuel reserve light stayed on even after the engine started. 
They would go out if I revved the engine, only to return at idle. Drove 
the car down the street and back and the lights finally went out. Took 
it for a longer drive and I heard the fan belt squealing. A few minutes 
later the belt stopped making noise, but the alt light was glowing 
faintly no matter what the engine speed.


Returned home and shut her down. Now when I go to start it, the only 
lights that come on are the glow plug and seat belt. They both go off at 
the appropriate times.


Any suggestions about next steps?

Thanks in advance,

Martin Buck
84 300SD
85 300SD

Re: [MBZ] I love 115's

[Tyler Backman]

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My 240D rusted a hole in the passenger side floor exactly like that,  
without significant rust elsewhere on the car. I suspect some sort of  
design flaw... I just welded in some new metal.


Tyler

On Nov 16, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-1975-240D-W115-CLASSIC- 
DIESEL-BIO- 
WVO-115_W0QQitemZ160052831160QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt 
em

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  87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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[MBZ] trailing arm

[Bill Gallagher]

Need a trailing arm only for a 1981 300 TD left Want to sell the hub 
with it but do not need itUsed will be better than new unless price 
difference not that much... TIA



Bill
1981 300 TD

Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 coupe

[Mitch Haley]

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250050523151

Now there's a new home for Loren's SDL, assuming it's not a rust bucket.
$2000 Buy it Now is less than rust repair costs. And how many 603.96
coups are there in this country? Sure to be the only kid on the block
with one.

Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt

[LarryT]

Perfect - Finally, electrical tests I can understand!!  Thanks Marshall !!

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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt




This section is very useful when diagnosing a '90s OM60x as well:

http://manuals.braingears.com/124_DISC1/Program/Engine/602_603/07.1-2006.pdf

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

[Chris Kueny]

I sometimes wonder if they even read what they are writing.

Chris K
Cayce, SC




"The powerful 2.2 liter 4 cylinder diesel engine not only offers plenty of 
power,..."


"This 1984 190D diesel is guaranteed to make its new owners more then happy 
with their buy. AS IS-NO WARRANTY."



Subject: [MBZ] cheap 190D



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-MB-190D-2-2L-1984-Mercedes-190D-2-2L_W0QQitemZ130048468017QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] cheap 95 wagon

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-95-Mercedes-Benz-e-320-Wagon-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ260053591913QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] cheap 124 coupe

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1990-MERCEDES-BENZ-300-SERIES-300-CE_W0QQitemZ250050523151QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] I love 115's

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-1975-240D-W115-CLASSIC-DIESEL-BIO-WVO-115_W0QQitemZ160052831160QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt

[LarryT]

Hi Marshall,
Thanks for the excellent definitive info about my idle loss - and how to 
find/fix it.
Luckily I have lots of time to search for the problem - it'd be nice to get 
lucky and find the problem right away.


Oh well - I needed something else to do. ;-)

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From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt



LarryT wrote:

Marshall wrote:<
resonance that exists in the OM617.95 injection pump>>


Since I have a 602.962 I can assume the Rack Damper Bolt adjustment does 
me
no good?  So, with Electronic Idle Control on my engine - the manual 
tells

in detail how to test the idle speed - and they show the use of an
electronic test device to conduct tests.

I have also read the section about adjusting the linkage but I hesitate 
to
adjust anything because of the elctronic controls that may dominate the 
idle

speed.  Or am I reading too much into the "sophistication of the Idle
control"?

To describe the problem - when the accelerator is released and the engine
speeds drops to idle often it will run slightly rough as if running too
slow.  If the AC is on the idle seems to drop to the lower speed.  Even 
with

the AC off, it still drops off but not as low.  This started a couple of
months ago.

Anyway, it seems as though the electronic control would need to be 
checked.


THERE is NO rack damper screw on an OM60x engine (or any engine except a
617.95).

As to testing the idle, you need to disable the electric control and set
the idle to 620 rpm and reconnect the idle actuator and it should then
be at about 680 rpm.

All described in
http://manuals.braingears.com/124_DISC1/Program/Engine/602_603/07.1-2053.pdf

The speed should remain the same whether the car is in or out of gear OR
the AC is on or off once the engine has warmed up. ANY connection within
the circuitry for the idle control COULD be causing the problem. Could
be a bad engine speed sensor (rare) or a cad connection of the sensor
into the wiring harness (I've had several of those go bad on MY OM60x
engines) or dirty contacts on the overvoltage protection relay (but when
they go out usually the tach goes out and the AC compressor won't
engage) or a bad connection to the idle speed actuator. Could also be a
bad engine temp sensor and last it could be the electronic diesel
control computer itself () but that rather rare as well.

Running this down WILL be very time consuming/expensive unless you are
very lucky or you have LOTS of free time.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Thermostat and power steering leak

[Marshall Booth]

Curt Raymond wrote:


I bought the low pressure hose from Rusty and replaced it at the same time. I 
didn't bother with the high pressure hose as it was in good shape. In 
retrospect I probably didn't need to do the low pressure hose either, it was in 
good shape, but better safe the sorry.


A 15+ year old low pressure power steering hose NEEDS to be replaced. 
Every one of mine has started leaking during between 15-20 years.


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Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt, if he has one?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no

John Freer wrote:


OK, but does the 602 engine that Larry has even have one?




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[MBZ] cheap 190D

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 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Marshall or other guru: Where is Larry's Rack Damper Bolt, if he has one?

[John Freer]

OK, but does the 602 engine that Larry has even have one?

On 11/16/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jim Cathey wrote:
>> What are the warning signs of a bad/dieing Rack Damper Bolt?  If I
>> have one,
>> need to know how to tell if it's bad.   Man!  This is getting
>> complicated!
>
> I always thought it was a loping idle.  Or, if too tight, weird starting
> characteristics.  (Due to the rack not moving to where it ought.)

CORRECT!

Attached is picture of old (bottom, silver colored) and new (top, gold
colored) rack damper screw.

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[MBZ] cheap 87 300D

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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Re: [MBZ] 400,000 miles and still ticking

[Mitch Haley]

Loren Faeth wrote:
> If they could only make lcds that would last 30-60 years

You mean it wasn't 6 degrees F when you took that picture?
When the body finishes rusting to pieces, maybe you can get a W201 body
and a big honking turbo to keep the engine going:
http://students.tukkk.fi/tuukka.simonen/Mersuvideot/dieselboost_demo.mpeg

[MBZ] Used parts for 11/16

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] I found one!

[LarryT]

Kevin wrote: >


Great strategy - like the old saying - "there's nothing more expensive than 
a cheap Mercedes."


My 1st diesel - a W123 78 240D had spots here and there - but I should have 
waitied until another had come up for sale - although I did get it at 
wholesale prices.  It's surprising what some original owners will do when 
they get ready for a new car.  Spoke with a owner a while back who let his 
W126 go way too cheaply.  But he was ready to move on and didn't like giving 
the dealer a trade-in.   Someone came out with a great car with almost 200k 
that had been maintained by the book.  IMHO, there's a group of MB buyers 
out there who know nothing about their cars except they're a status symbol, 
are comfortable andare well made (well, they used to be).  So, when 
something goes wrong it goes to the dealer where it's cheaper for the owner 
to pay 2-3X's the going rate because their time is more valuable than the 
price they're paying to get the car back on the road as quickly as possible.


Of course, this is just a personal opinion and I have no real data other 
than a few anecdotal stories.


Later - Happy Dieseling -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I found one!



Thanks, everyone, for the input on the issues with my 300SD!  I do have
another question.  How far should the power seat switch tabs stick out if
they are not broken?  It seems like they're only out about 1/4", not much
for anything to snap onto.  Now that there's some daylight on the subject, 
I
can have some eyes help me to determine what's going on.  Regarding the 
door
lock pump, I think I'll start by following Marshall's advice and replace 
the

fuse along with the others and go from there.
It's nice to have another diesel Mercedes!  How long am I keeping it, you
ask?  You can bet that this one will be mine for a lng time!  I
wanted to start with a good one and sort out all the bits to make it right
rather than suffering losses due to turn over costs.

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1983 300SD 284K miles, still playing with names


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Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt

[LarryT]

Thanks Kaleb - exactly what needed to hear.  ;-)

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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack Damper Bolt



The only cars with the rack damper bolt are cars with the 617 turbo.

LarryT wrote:


Marshall wrote:<
resonance that exists in the OM617.95 injection pump>>



Since I have a 602.962 I can assume the Rack Damper Bolt adjustment does 
me
no good?  So, with Electronic Idle Control on my engine - the manual 
tells

in detail how to test the idle speed - and they show the use of an
electronic test device to conduct tests.

I have also read the section about adjusting the linkage but I hesitate 
to
adjust anything because of the elctronic controls that may dominate the 
idle

speed.  Or am I reading too much into the "sophistication of the Idle
control"?

To describe the problem - when the accelerator is released and the engine
speeds drops to idle often it will run slightly rough as if running too
slow.  If the AC is on the idle seems to drop to the lower speed.  Even 
with

the AC off, it still drops off but not as low.  This started a couple of
months ago.

Anyway, it seems as though the electronic control would need to be 
checked.


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[SNIP]


The rack damper ONLY damps the lope that is caused by the natural
resonance that exists in the OM617.95 injection pump. It does NOT reduce
any other cause of engine roughness. Old style (silver) rack damper
screws may NOT damp the lope even when tightened all the way in!! That's
why the revised (gold) rack damper screws were designed!

Marshall
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