Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....
My last commercial power bill had me paying 9.349 cents/kwh. Tell me more about the Lister debate...when I can finally get one, I don't want to be shut out. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback Otherwise here with electricity at 6.33 cents a kwh it's hard to consider alternatives because utility electricity is so cheap, baring of course outages.
Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....
The USA EPA changed the rules for small engines in January 2007. It's possible many engines made outside of the USA can no longer be imported. Testing and modifications of course takes time and $, also maybe the supplier couldn't careless about selling small engines into the USA anymore. Canada has decided to march lockstep mostly with the USA rules also starting in 2007. The debate is if Lister engines can be imported anymore to the USA. On Jan 7, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Chris Kueny wrote: My last commercial power bill had me paying 9.349 cents/kwh. Tell me more about the Lister debate...when I can finally get one, I don't want to be shut out. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback Otherwise here with electricity at 6.33 cents a kwh it's hard to consider alternatives because utility electricity is so cheap, baring of course outages.
Re: [MBZ] Diesel generators
John M McIntosh wrote: After clocking 60 hours of gas generator use in dec here in the pacific NW I look at the various generator options just to understand the market. I'd be on the lookout for a 3 cyl Kubota powered Cub Cadet, like a 782D. I sometimes see them for $1000-1500, but that's not a tractor in pristine condidion. I'd get a belt drive 10kw generator head and run it off the front PTO. In good weather, I could mow my lawn with it.
Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....
Here in Ohio, the utility companies are only required to pay the wholesale rate if you generate excess and run the meter backwards (2-3cents per kwh). You are also required to use an approved disconnect that uncouples your generator if the grid power fails. They are expensive. You cannot use a simple volt/amp measurement trigger, because you will be measuring your own generator's output and may not detect a power failure of the grid in a timely manner. -Dave Walton On 1/7/07, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Chris Kueny wrote: The Lister engines available from India today use no spark. ... See www.utterpower.comfor all the details. Chris K Cayce, SC After clocking 60 hours of gas generator use in dec here in the pacific NW I look at the various generator options just to understand the market. Mind this all has changed now due to the EPA jan 2007 regulations where most of the solutions might not even be allowed to be imported anymore in the USA or Canada. There are basically: a) Lister based options (huge debate ongoing about ability to import to usa now) b) 12-20 hp (about) HP single cylinder engines from china based on a german design, water cooled. c) multiple cyl large water cooled diesels made in china (20Kw+) d) A thousand and one vendors rebranding kipo or kipo clone 6-6.5 kw single cyl diesel generators, enclosed on wheels or non-enclosed, the manuals are quite funny to read, thank goodness we don't need to let diesel settle in 55 gallon drums to deal with the dirt and water before usage. Mmm depends I guess on your supplier. Pricing for these guys (same engine) varies from $900 to $4000 btw. e) very nice kuboto, yamaha, japan diesel engine base systems for . If for example you have a farm where you grow oil based products you can with a press generate vegetable oil and with a lister based system be totally off the grid, and if lucky sell power back to the utility. Otherwise here with electricity at 6.33 cents a kwh it's hard to consider alternatives because utility electricity is so cheap, baring of course outages. Still of course if I could trip over a nice diesel yamaha/honda generator mis-listed on ebay somewhere for a song why the loud gas powered 6.5kw genrac I have would get resold... John 1983 300TDt 374k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 185k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 220D doors
Tinted Window wings? I think they are tinted more green than gray. Not clear. On Jan 6, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Explain Grays? Both wing windows are there Umm, they would be gray? In color. are 1972 model year doors in that nasty cream/white color. And that would be the answer. My doors are rusting badly, but paint is outside of the realm of possibility. I just parked it inside, for about the first time ever. (On my watch.) Had to do some serious rearrangement of the garage again to get the 450 SL crosswise along the front. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....
That makes sense from a safety standpoint, and is part of the barrier to entry. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback You are also required to use an approved disconnect that uncouples your generator if the grid power fails. They are expensive. You cannot use a simple volt/amp measurement trigger, because you will be measuring your own generator's output and may not detect a power failure of the grid in a timely manner. -Dave Walton
Re: [MBZ] Here's a nice 114
JFC! $10k!?!? Gump is getting a rattle can spray and I will post her on eBay for that cash On Jan 7, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Ebay Item # 260073393513 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/45k-ORIGINAL-MILES-PRICE-TO-SELL-THE- BEST _W0QQitemZ260073393513QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Injection pump oil leak
I seem to have a leak somewhere around the injection pump on my 87 300TD. The car is on my ramps in the garage so I cleaned up the area and I THINK it may be leaking from the shaft of the shutoff arm on the injection pump manual shutoff valve. Is this possible? Or likely? And more important is it repairable? ...Kevin 87 300TD 79 240D
[MBZ] Sweet w116
Had to do the guess the model with SWMBA today. Says she saw a really cute car the other day and it had curvy fenders and was really a cute mercedes. It was old and really cute. Great. Thanks, that told me a whole bunch. Tried to narrow it by asking if the headlights were stacked or side by side. She was sure they were stacked. Ask if it had fins. Says she does not remember, but had seen an SDL, and knew I liked those. Pointed out she drove an SDL once, and she thought it was an aircraft carrier. She claims it was a junk pile inside. Still no idea what model car she saw was so cute. Narrow it down while shopping Costco that it might be a 1970's car. Decide I will just wait until we get home to scan eBay. Still bother to point out all the tri stars we see on the way home. Get home and see what is available this week. Looking at the w110/111 or w108/109. Show her a w114. Almost bites. Show a w126, Too boxy. Try a w123. Yeah, that is a pretty car, but too square still. Hmmm? Try a Ponton. Ohh that is a really CUTE Car! But not the one. Look for a 1980SD and that is Bang On! Oh that is really a nice cute curvy car!!! WHAT THE F??? Those are not cute in the least! Nothing at all like Gump for cute! Wonder if I can get her to approve acquisition? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] 01/07/07 CL list
Since I am now looking for w116 to sucker her into getting, here is a list of interesting cars http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/258727599.html -- Todd? 64 220s http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/259116149.html -- 77 6.9 http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/258610338.html -- 59 190b $400 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/258579717.html -- 78 euro 4sp SE http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/car/258561975.html -- offer $500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/258348137.html -- 99 E300D http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/258201697.html -- silver one http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/258137709.html -- Bimmer tD http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/257893995.html -- CDI http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/257537644.html -- 84 SD http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/car/257476977.html -- 84 TD $6k http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/257168924.html -- 92 SE $5k http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/257071688.html -- 79 4sp 240D http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/257033593.html -- 5sp 190D http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/car/256839532.html -- 76 330D ??? I can look at any of these if you desire. I will be hitting a few auctions this week, so will fit in viewings as needed. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....
Lister cycle engines are low compression, dirty, and make lots of smoke along with burning quite a bit of fuel for the output generated. Simple to make and repair, which is why they are in use in the third world, but very much an environmental problem. Peter
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
Actually it's just a plain-Jane 10v fiver--bulletproof, but boring. Just to clarify, the Audi 5000 diesels were also fivers, not the VW/Audi sixers found in the Volvos and VW LT trucks. On 1/7/07, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the one equipped with the 20 valve 5 banger? I can always tell when one drives by, even the older 5000's. Diesel content: an Audi 5000 diesel sounds like a thrashing machine compared to a properly tuned Mercedes diesel engine. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Speedster
The old Speedsters were originally made as a less expensive version of the 356 - it was stripped of many comforts with a windshield 1/2 the height of the original and it sold for $3495. $2995. Designed and built thanks to the efforts of Max Hoffman. I haven't seen one over 100Gs yet, but they are getting close. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:46:48 -0600 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it would follow that on a mechanical-injection engine, there is no preheating of fuel, and so any fuel that enters as a result of pumping is as cold as the fuel that enters without pumping. I'm assuming that an 83 240D is a mechanical-injection engine. And no, I'm still not an advocate of pumping, just referring to how my foot tends to want to do it to help things along. The '83 240D engine is a mechanical-injection engine. The depressing of the accelerator pedal determines how much fuel the injection pump will inject into each cylinder. The fuel isn't injected until the injection pump input shaft is rotated. It has pistons and cylinders, sort-of like a miniature version of your engine. The fuel isn't forced into an injection line until the small piston is pushed up by its cam shaft. The depressing of the accelerator pedal only determines the amount of fuel that can come out of pump and into each injection line. Craig
Re: [MBZ] twin plug engines
Pretty common since 1997 in most MB models. One plug's firing leads the other and they switch in the next firing stroke. Why? Who knows. Those of us with M-112 engines get to buy 12 plugs when change time rolls around at 100K. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
Diesel injection pumps usually default to full fuel delivery at start -- no need to put the pedal down, the pump is already set for wide open. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
I am curious about this stuff - not trying to nit-pick, so indulge my further questioning if time allows. When you say that depressing the pedal determines how much fuel is delivered into the injection lines, I'm assuming you mean the level that the pedal is *held at during cranking*, not simply depressed to, then released. Yes? I imagine this is what you mean, since otherwise, one could (prior to running starter) press the pedal to a certain point, then a couple of seconds later press it to a different point, and so on, and the operative pedal press would have to be the last one? Brian On 1/7/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The '83 240D engine is a mechanical-injection engine. The depressing of the accelerator pedal determines how much fuel the injection pump will inject into each cylinder. The fuel isn't injected until the injection pump input shaft is rotated. It has pistons and cylinders, sort-of like a miniature version of your engine. The fuel isn't forced into an injection line until the small piston is pushed up by its cam shaft. The depressing of the accelerator pedal only determines the amount of fuel that can come out of pump and into each injection line. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] twin plug engines
There are three reasons that I know of for twin plugs. In aircraft, you have a redundant ignition system just in case one fails. No-one wants airplanes falling out of the sky. In rotary engines, the combustion chamber is very long narrow two sparks are needed to complete combustion. In motorcycles cars, two spark plugs effectively shorten the flame front, allowing for higher compression better performance. I'm also sure that emissions are also a factor in some engines. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:01 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] twin plug engines Pretty common since 1997 in most MB models. One plug's firing leads the other and they switch in the next firing stroke. Why? Who knows. Those of us with M-112 engines get to buy 12 plugs when change time rolls around at 100K. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
What is the reason that the user's manual, and some folks I've heard, say that in cold weather, press pedal to floor once before running the starter? I've heard the terminology resetting the rack regarding this. Also, when it's cold, I know that you need to have that pedal down so that when the engine starts to run, it can be brought up to speed by your pedal pressure. And then you back off the pedal as the engine gets going. So under your description, one would not press the pedal prior to running the starter, then crank the starter, then, what, go ahead and press the pedal down when the engine sounds like it's going to start? Or are you saying don't touch the pedal at any point in the cold-starting process? Again, just trying to gather tips. Thanks Brian 83 240D On 1/7/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diesel injection pumps usually default to full fuel delivery at start -- no need to put the pedal down, the pump is already set for wide open. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sweet w116
I do like the look/FEEL of the W116, but you're right about the W115 being cuter. There will be some day when one graces the driveway, one with a working blower motor. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Sweet w116
on 1/7/07 9:20 PM, Redghost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHAT THE F??? Those are not cute in the least! Nothing at all like Gump for cute! Wonder if I can get her to approve acquisition? Well, you either love or hate the w116, it seems to be that way. I love 'em. I have never seen any advantage to a w126, other than the power seats and of course the semi-rational climate control system. Mac
Re: [MBZ] Sweet w116
The W116 is VERY prone to severe rust, a known problem even in Europe. It is also somewhat heavier than the W126 -- the latter chassis is the first one in which MB used thinner higher strength steel rather than plain hot-roll. Better strength, less weight, and very much better corrosion resistance. Same suspension, they drive almost exactly the same. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:27:12 -0600 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious about this stuff - not trying to nit-pick, so indulge my further questioning if time allows. When you say that depressing the pedal determines how much fuel is delivered into the injection lines, I'm assuming you mean the level that the pedal is *held at during cranking*, not simply depressed to, then released. Yes? The amount of fuel delivered by the pump at any instant (cranking or driving) is determined by the amount you have the pedal depressed at that instant -- assuming, of course, that the pump's input shaft is rotating. (If you don't rotate the input shaft, you don't get any fuel no matter where the accelerator is.) So, pumping only varies the amount of fuel that's injected versus time as you crank the engine. There is no accelerator pump like in a carburetted gasoline engine that will squirt extra fuel in. So, holding the pedal at half-way during the starting process will inject more fuel than if you had not pressed on the pedal. The fuel, of course, will be at the temperature of the fuel in the tank. Does that clear up the mud any? Craig
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:56:27 -0600 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diesel injection pumps usually default to full fuel delivery at start -- no need to put the pedal down, the pump is already set for wide open. I don't have time to re-read the engine manual's section on how the injection pumps for 61x engines work, so I can't comment on the veracity of the full fuel delivery at start comment, but during cold weather it definitely is necessary to push the pedal down 1/3 to 1/2 way to get the engine going -- to overcome the increased friction of a cold engine if for nothing else. I haven't read my 1982 240D owner's manual in that detail, but the 1972 220D owner's manual definitely did say to press the pedal down for cold weather starting. Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT Saab 96
I know! Brian 84 Saab 900 8 valve non-turbo Curt wrote: I was surprised how peppy it felt for being such a small engine, (clip)
Re: [MBZ] twin plug engines
Pretty common since 1997 in most MB models. One plug's firing leads the other and they switch in the next firing stroke. Why? Who knows. Probably equalizes local temperature distribution and internal engine wear. But I'm just guessing. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....
Lister cycle engines are low compression, dirty, and make lots of smoke along with burning quite a bit of fuel for the output generated. My understanding is that they are actually quite fuel-efficient, at least as used for modest amounts of backup power. And they run forever. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Sweet w116
WHAT THE F??? Those [116] are not cute in the least! Nothing at all like Gump for cute! Wonder if I can get her to approve acquisition? I'm with her on that one. I really like the looks of the 116, along with its contemporary the 107. Someday maybe... Maybe a nice 6.9? Retrofit a 126 climate control into it and have it all. Except spare change! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
Indeed it does. Thanks Brian 83 240D On 1/7/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:27:12 -0600 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious about this stuff - not trying to nit-pick, so indulge my further questioning if time allows. When you say that depressing the pedal determines how much fuel is delivered into the injection lines, I'm assuming you mean the level that the pedal is *held at during cranking*, not simply depressed to, then released. Yes? The amount of fuel delivered by the pump at any instant (cranking or driving) is determined by the amount you have the pedal depressed at that instant -- assuming, of course, that the pump's input shaft is rotating. (If you don't rotate the input shaft, you don't get any fuel no matter where the accelerator is.) So, pumping only varies the amount of fuel that's injected versus time as you crank the engine. There is no accelerator pump like in a carburetted gasoline engine that will squirt extra fuel in. So, holding the pedal at half-way during the starting process will inject more fuel than if you had not pressed on the pedal. The fuel, of course, will be at the temperature of the fuel in the tank. Does that clear up the mud any? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 220D doors
Tinted Window wings? I think they are tinted more green than gray. Not clear. Paint, Clay. Gray _paint_! Oh, and that green tint to the windows upsets me. The ones on the Frankenheap are water-clear, and my 'new' un-etched replacements are greenish and don't match. I've been watching for water-clear ones, but everything has been greenish. -- Jim
[MBZ] OT GM crate engines
Planning to import so called ' crated' engines for a 1958 and a 1965 Chevy Impala convertible . currently these have straight six engines as were fitted to most GM export models of that vintage. what common V-8 engine should be ordered for these cars ? I am sure some on the list will have trove of knowledge in this area and will appreciate advise and insight to this engine purchase Thanks mak 220S 62 230 66 280SE 70 300Se 90 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 08 05:46:33 2007 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.234]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H3nL7-0006ai-0e for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:46:33 + Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h30so7906870wxd for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.63.16 with SMTP id l16mr1962224aga.1168235010079; Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.63.13 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:43:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 23:43:30 -0600 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:46:33 - I found this link at the top of my gmail screen. Purdy thing. http://www.mercedes300tdw124.com/ Brian
Re: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale
He sure likes playing with his camera! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:44 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale I found this link at the top of my gmail screen. Purdy thing. http://www.mercedes300tdw124.com/ Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale
Phew! Just got done skimming the website devoted to selling this wagon. They lay it on very thickly! Funny - I seem to recognize some of the language from this ad. Wonder if I've viewed other stuff for sale from this guy. The thing looks real nice, but who knows. The guy goes over the top with his sell though. Brian On 1/7/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this link at the top of my gmail screen. Purdy thing. http://www.mercedes300tdw124.com/ Brian
[MBZ] Function of electronic controls on '85 OM617, Cali emissions car
Anyone on this list familiar with the electronics applied to the very late west-coast 300sd cars? I need to specifically know what the boxes did. More specifically, did they deal with idle speed during warmup and idle stabilization when hot? TKS -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s
Re: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale
Except under the hood. Heck, shoot the chassis too if he's so on fire. Would be helpful (or perhaps harmful?) Again, who knows? Is it true that this model was only offered in '87, like he says? Brian On 1/7/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He sure likes playing with his camera! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:44 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale I found this link at the top of my gmail screen. Purdy thing. http://www.mercedes300tdw124.com/ Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale
I believe so, but the 300TE was offered for more than one year with the price of diesel, I'd rather have the 300TE. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale Except under the hood. Heck, shoot the chassis too if he's so on fire. Would be helpful (or perhaps harmful?) Again, who knows? Is it true that this model was only offered in '87, like he says? Brian On 1/7/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He sure likes playing with his camera! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:44 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale I found this link at the top of my gmail screen. Purdy thing. http://www.mercedes300tdw124.com/ Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....
On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Lister cycle engines are low compression, dirty, and make lots of smoke along with burning quite a bit of fuel for the output generated. My understanding is that they are actually quite fuel-efficient, at least as used for modest amounts of backup power. And they run forever. -- Jim Well I've seen some number tossed about first, a baseline oak ridge national labs ORNL/TM-1999/213 advanced power generation systems Modern reciprocating diesel engine fuel consumption can be as low as 190 g/kWh (45% efficiency) but usually falls in the 200- to 300-g/kWh (43 to 35% efficiency) range depending upon design and operating conditions. Some one can wander off and calculate om615/om617 and modern 2007 diesel engine consumption I'm sure. Also good to have some I sure rational numbers available to test make believe numbers with. Also found this graph http://lerch.no-ip.com/ChangFa_Gen/Day_07/Gen_Compare_Liter.gif Saw a claim for changfa 1cyl 12hp at 0.251 g/kwh, but the gif above quotes as low as 0.35 liter/kwh or at 0.85 density 298 g/kwh so I'd say this 0.251 number is optimistic. From elsewhere I see lister 419 g/kwh at 3kw, but perhaps on vegetable oil which has different density and BTUS, thus more fuel needed I believe kubota lists their 11Kw at 75% consuming 319 g/kwh or 340 g/kwh at 50% mmm say .375 liters/kwh which is more efficient than most of the mainstream diesel generators in the GIF.
[MBZ] OM617 Conrod removal
I was trying to dismantle my 300D engine and hit a major snag in that the conrod bolts were not secure on the conrod - the bolts just keep on turning when trying to loosen the conrod nuts. Can one use the conrods after this ? I suspect that even putting new bolts in I will have the same problem. Has this ever happened to anyone before as my enginneering shop says they have never seen this before!. Peter merle
[MBZ] Cracked OM 617.91 head
Eventually I dismantled my 300GD engine ( OM617.91 ) and discovered a crack on cyl #1 between the two valves. Engine has never overheated in last 6 years I have had it and water usage is negligable ( 0.5 l / 2 km ). Is this problem commonplace ? Peter
Re: [MBZ] Sweet w116
Well, you either love or hate the w116, it seems to be that way. I love 'em. I don't mind them although I do prefer the W126. Wifey hates the W116 (I looked at a few that were for sale before buying the W126 300SD). Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] OT GM crate engines
My 1958 Chevy Impala convertible came with a 283 V8. IIRC, the 1965 also had the 327 and 396 as options. On 1/7/07, M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Planning to import so called ' crated' engines for a 1958 and a 1965 Chevy Impala convertible . currently these have straight six engines as were fitted to most GM export models of that vintage. what common V-8 engine should be ordered for these cars ? I am sure some on the list will have trove of knowledge in this area and will appreciate advise and insight to this engine purchase Thanks mak 220S 62 230 66 280SE 70 300Se 90 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] OT GM crate engines
The V8 most widely fitted was the 283ci. However, the 65 Impala could be ordered with anything up to a 427ci. Not sure what the largest V8 was available to the 58 Impala. The Chev dealer/parts dept may have that info - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT GM crate engines Planning to import so called ' crated' engines for a 1958 and a 1965 Chevy Impala convertible . currently these have straight six engines as were fitted to most GM export models of that vintage. what common V-8 engine should be ordered for these cars ? I am sure some on the list will have trove of knowledge in this area and will appreciate advise and insight to this engine purchase Thanks mak 220S 62 230 66 280SE 70 300Se 90 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007
Re: [MBZ] Cracked OM 617.91 head
In a message dated 1/8/2007 12:55:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eventually I dismantled my 300GD engine ( OM617.91 ) and discovered a crack on cyl #1 between the two valves. Engine has never overheated in last 6 years I have had it and water usage is negligable ( 0.5 l / 2 km ). Is this problem commonplace ? Peter, I have replaced cast iron heads on the four cylinder 616, and my current 617 car. In both cases, you KNOW they are leaking and the engine overheats forthwith. When I began overhauling my 79, I found that the used head ( on there 6 years)had a crack between the valves but had never shown a sign of leaking. I think some cracks are common and can be ignored. Sign of leakage, such as water consumption and steam cleaned combustion chambers should NOT be ignored. I also have an aluminum 603 head (#18) that was cracked between the valves on number 6 cylinder, and it did not show signs of leaking either. Of course, if someone was paying a shop to rebuild an engine, the incidental cost of $550 for a new bare head would be a good insurance risk. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Brake Calipers
Yeah. Well, the only real trouble is the bleed screws. I'll either replace the calipers or drill out the bleeders - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Calipers On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:21:48 -0500 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife can drive her pickup or the 240D to work if need be. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) Is this the '91 300D you're having so much trouble with? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007
Re: [MBZ] CD changer info for Larry
Kaleb wrote:it also tells you the MB part number of the interface box you need to order from Rusty Is this what the Interface Box talking about:You will also need the Mercedes Translator, part number Q6-82-0135, which can be ordered from your local Mercedes Benz dealer. ?? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CD changer info for Larry Oh yea, it also tells you the MB part number of the interface box you need to order from Rusty. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Here is a link to a place that sells the proper adaptors you need. Just for FYI, you should be able to order them elsewhere. It also lists which of the alpine changer are compatable, although most any of the 6 disk ones will work. http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piembzealp.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007
Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo
Thanks Kaleb - my Becker CD Changer does not have the interface box so one will be ordered. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo Check on the internet to see if you can order them somewhere. When I bought mine I got the part number off a website and had a local radio shop order them for me. For the 91-93 cars using the alpine CD changer, you have to get 2 PIE adaptors, and get a special interface box at the dealer. I believe the factory CD changer have this interface box mounted to the back of the CD changer already. Hook the mess together and it works fine. On the 94 and up cars (non fiber optic), you just have to buy 1 adaptor that plugs the same alpine changer right into the truck plug. LarryT wrote: OK - Thanks! I'll contact PIE tomorrow and see how much a adapter will cost. Thanks again. BTW, is the Alpine 611 a current changer? Or has it been out for a while ? Hope, at last! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo Well you dont need a becker silverstone changer, the alpine 611 and several others will work just fine with the becker system. You have to get a coupld of adapter from PIE but thats no big deal. LarryT wrote: you wrote:Why on earth would somebody rip out the factory head unit and install that crappy aftermarket radio Couldn't agree more! Actually, I'm fighting a similar problem w/my 91. I want a changer and bought one that needed repair. It's been with SW Stereo since last July waiting for parts. He's really an expert on these Becker systems and I've run a few different scenarios past him trying to find a workable alternative that would provide equal sound quality. I considered buying a new dash unit and changer to go with it - but that would mean running all new speaker wires and a new antenna wire - with another one to the dash if I want the on/off to actuate the antenna. He said the head unit is basically a tape deck and some wiring - with the tuner and amp in the trunk. It's high quality fir circa 1991 so I would gain quality if I wanted to buy all new stuff and spend the few hours running wiring. I don;t, so I'll wait for the changer to be rebuilt. Not sure why Becker had to go with the trunk mounted amp tuner - all the other systems managed to put quality in the dash - The bad thing is the Becker Silverstone CD Changers are becoming difficult to find - and parts take a long time to locate. Becker doesn;t make or stock any spare parts any more. Oh well. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo probably not. The most disturbing part of the car though is this model is prewired for CD changer in the trunk. Why on earth would somebody rip out the factory head unit and install that crappy aftermarket radio? LarryT wrote: You wrote:cheap 2.5 turbo With over 8 days remaining, I doubt it'll be cheap for long. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-DIESEL-1991-300D-DIESEL-SMOKE-FREE-in-FLORIDA-at-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ330071864350QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] OT GM crate engines
In a message dated 1/7/2007 10:31:33 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Planning to import so called ' crated' engines for a 1958 and a 1965 Chevy Impala convertible . currently these have straight six engines as were fitted to most GM export models of that vintage. what common V-8 engine should be ordered for these cars ? I am sure some on the list will have trove of knowledge in this area and will appreciate advise and insight to this engine purchase Mak, The best bargain in crate engines is the 350 cubic inch, 300 horsepower, with four bolt mains, advertised at many chevy dealers for $1495. This is an all new, completely assembled engine from intake to pan and comes with a 50,000 mile, 3 year warranty. This will use your carburetor and accessories. The heads will be drilled to mount most any stock accessory. If you want fuel injection, the same engine, called the Ramjet, complete with FI, wiring and computer, is $4495 and puts out 330 horsepower. For long life, fuel efficiency, and reasonable horsepower, that is a hell of a deal! Either way, be sure to use a reduction gear starter to avoid the old heat soak problems of standard V8 starters. I have seen the Denso 2 hp reduction gear starter for as low as $70 Just Google crate engines or call up the automotive classifieds of any large newspaper on the coast nearest you. The Arizona Republic has an ad in auto parts nearly every weekend. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Speedster
RLE wrote:2995. Designed and built thanks to the efforts of Max Hoffman. I haven't seen one over 100Gs yet, but they are getting close. Hi there, I got the $3495 price from a RT road test (http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/) - but that price includes the optional 1500S engine with 84bhp for an extra $500. Pretty good in a 2150# car. Yeah, it appears my comment about 6 figure Speedsters was an exaggeration. But, ...one of these days! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedster The old Speedsters were originally made as a less expensive version of the 356 - it was stripped of many comforts with a windshield 1/2 the height of the original and it sold for $3495. $2995. Designed and built thanks to the efforts of Max Hoffman. I haven't seen one over 100Gs yet, but they are getting close. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Function of electronic controls on '85 OM617, Cali emissions car
Nope the electronics were to control the EGR and boost bypass. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:59 AM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Function of electronic controls on '85 OM617, Cali emissions car Anyone on this list familiar with the electronics applied to the very late west-coast 300sd cars? I need to specifically know what the boxes did. More specifically, did they deal with idle speed during warmup and idle stabilization when hot? TKS -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] BioDiesel AntiGel additive info (was: Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point)
more stuff to share; looking at the Power Service web site, it was clear that most of their focus was on blends up to B20, but only one of their products seemed to be intended for use with anything of a higher concentration of BioD than than 20%. a query to them for clarification came back with this info this morning; all of their products with the exception of Arctic Express Biodiesel Antigel are intended for blends up to B20, with AEBDA being acceptable for higher than B20 and compatible with B100. they state that there is no additive available in the USA that will reduce what they call the Cold Filter Plugging Point of B100 (which makes me wonder if there's something available elsewhere?), but the most interesting point to me was their forthright sharing of the fact that their test results show results with AEBDA improving pour points varying from anywhere from 50*F to nothing, and that results will vary. OK, *i* thought it was interesting,... ;-) cheers! e
Re: [MBZ] Sweet w116
I think they are fine examples of great German engineering. Just not cute. Built like a tank and really well appointed for the era. Transitional in my mind though. Not the really classic look of the w110 and not the more modern w126. Would not argue if a nice SD showed up in the driveway. On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: on 1/7/07 9:20 PM, Redghost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHAT THE F??? Those are not cute in the least! Nothing at all like Gump for cute! Wonder if I can get her to approve acquisition? Well, you either love or hate the w116, it seems to be that way. I love 'em. I have never seen any advantage to a w126, other than the power seats and of course the semi-rational climate control system. Mac -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Sweet w116
There are two 6.9 out in the local CL list. Can not get her to bite. I guess I am more enamored of the classic 60's style of the w113 and w115 On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:25 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: WHAT THE F??? Those [116] are not cute in the least! Nothing at all like Gump for cute! Wonder if I can get her to approve acquisition? I'm with her on that one. I really like the looks of the 116, along with its contemporary the 107. Someday maybe... Maybe a nice 6.9? Retrofit a 126 climate control into it and have it all. Except spare change! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 220D doors
Sorry for being slow. PAINT. yep. Has some. Was Gump green from the looks of the interior. Got a reshoot of that nasty cream. If you were inclined, you could get some rattle can gray and make them fit the frankenheap. On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Tinted Window wings? I think they are tinted more green than gray. Not clear. Paint, Clay. Gray _paint_! Oh, and that green tint to the windows upsets me. The ones on the Frankenheap are water-clear, and my 'new' un-etched replacements are greenish and don't match. I've been watching for water-clear ones, but everything has been greenish. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Cracked OM 617.91 head
Peter Merle wrote: Eventually I dismantled my 300GD engine ( OM617.91 ) and discovered a crack on cyl #1 between the two valves. Engine has never overheated in last 6 years I have had it and water usage is negligable ( 0.5 l / 2 km ). Is this problem commonplace ? Peter Head failures of OM61x engines are quite rare but they do happen. Most result from abuse. Overheating is the most common cause of cracking. Not all cracks result in leaks or actual failures, but I'd sure not put a cracked head back on an engine because it hadn't leaked before it was removed!. Head failure of OM60x engines (with 1st generation aluminum heads) were far more common - especially with turbocharged engines. The 2nd generation heads (introduce in the 1989) seemed to be as robust as the iron heads used on OM61x engines. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] CD changer info for Larry
Perhaps you know - Does Alpine make the changers for Becker? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] CD changer info for Larry Here is a link to a place that sells the proper adaptors you need. Just for FYI, you should be able to order them elsewhere. It also lists which of the alpine changer are compatable, although most any of the 6 disk ones will work. http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piembzealp.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007
Re: [MBZ] 220D doors
i thought green-tinted windows was a factory option at that time ... just means there's more iron in the glass and cheaper to make. On 1/8/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for being slow. PAINT. yep. Has some. Was Gump green from the looks of the interior. Got a reshoot of that nasty cream. If you were inclined, you could get some rattle can gray and make them fit the frankenheap. On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Tinted Window wings? I think they are tinted more green than gray. Not clear. Paint, Clay. Gray _paint_! Oh, and that green tint to the windows upsets me. The ones on the Frankenheap are water-clear, and my 'new' un-etched replacements are greenish and don't match. I've been watching for water-clear ones, but everything has been greenish. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D
Talked to retired Army Dr. owner of 93 S300D at indie shop the other day. I was there getting belt, thermostat, idler pulley damper and leaking injector bypass lines replaced. I have until recently done all of this stuff myself, but am unable to do so now. He was there getting leaking fuel lines replaced. I tried to tell him about the need to replace the injector bypass lines occasionally, but he had no clue what I was talking about. When I mentioned that his car has the same engine as my 91 350SDL, he said, Oh, no, mine's a 300. When I tried to tell him about the rod-bender engine and how they had changed the nomenclature (number on the trunk) for 93 in an effort to make buyers feel better, he said, Well, I'm glad they fixed the problem. I replied, No, they just changed the number on the trunk. He has no clue. BTW, this message composed using voice-activated program, Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Wilton Strickland 91 350SDL (185kmi), 87 showroom 300D (101kmi)
Re: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D
Geez, that guys scarey! It's a shame he was a Army doc - but it's good he's retired - with thought processes like that he's probably done a lot of damage in his lifetime. Hopefully he;s not in private practice now. Unless he;s treating celebrities. ;-) I wonder what made him bring it in for the work he was having done? I know he didn;t read the owners manual. Sadly, the people who own MBs (and other expensive cars) have some strange ideas about maintanence - I had a guy tell me(when I owned a MB Parts/accessory business) that an $8 car shouldn't need an oil change! So he never changed his. Sadly, there's no use trying to explain things to these kinds of people - their preconceived notions are so ingrained that *nothing* will dislodge them. He's probably still wondering what rodbender means. It's nice to be surrounded by people who are pretty intelligent. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D Talked to retired Army Dr. owner of 93 S300D at indie shop the other day. I was there getting belt, thermostat, idler pulley damper and leaking injector bypass lines replaced. I have until recently done all of this stuff myself, but am unable to do so now. He was there getting leaking fuel lines replaced. I tried to tell him about the need to replace the injector bypass lines occasionally, but he had no clue what I was talking about. When I mentioned that his car has the same engine as my 91 350SDL, he said, Oh, no, mine's a 300. When I tried to tell him about the rod-bender engine and how they had changed the nomenclature (number on the trunk) for 93 in an effort to make buyers feel better, he said, Well, I'm glad they fixed the problem. I replied, No, they just changed the number on the trunk. He has no clue. BTW, this message composed using voice-activated program, Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Wilton Strickland 91 350SDL (185kmi), 87 showroom 300D (101kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007
Re: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D
Wilton - Just wondering about the voice recognition. I tried it several years ago and discovered that with some diligence and careful speech patterns I could dictate a letter about 3 times slower than I could type it [but I am a fair country typist]. Has the technology improved enough to make it reliable and worth the trouble? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:24 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D Talked to retired Army Dr. owner of 93 S300D at indie shop the other day. I was there getting belt, thermostat, idler pulley damper and leaking injector bypass lines replaced. I have until recently done all of this stuff myself, but am unable to do so now. He was there getting leaking fuel lines replaced. I tried to tell him about the need to replace the injector bypass lines occasionally, but he had no clue what I was talking about. When I mentioned that his car has the same engine as my 91 350SDL, he said, Oh, no, mine's a 300. When I tried to tell him about the rod-bender engine and how they had changed the nomenclature (number on the trunk) for 93 in an effort to make buyers feel better, he said, Well, I'm glad they fixed the problem. I replied, No, they just changed the number on the trunk. He has no clue. BTW, this message composed using voice-activated program, Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Wilton Strickland 91 350SDL (185kmi), 87 showroom 300D (101kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D
They have come a long way. Dragon rocks! You have 3 days of pain before it learns your voice. Then it's +98% accurate. For specialized tasks like programming, create a new dictionary with a limited vocabulary and it gets even better. -Dave Walton On 1/8/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wilton - Just wondering about the voice recognition. I tried it several years ago and discovered that with some diligence and careful speech patterns I could dictate a letter about 3 times slower than I could type it [but I am a fair country typist]. Has the technology improved enough to make it reliable and worth the trouble? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:24 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D Talked to retired Army Dr. owner of 93 S300D at indie shop the other day. I was there getting belt, thermostat, idler pulley damper and leaking injector bypass lines replaced. I have until recently done all of this stuff myself, but am unable to do so now. He was there getting leaking fuel lines replaced. I tried to tell him about the need to replace the injector bypass lines occasionally, but he had no clue what I was talking about. When I mentioned that his car has the same engine as my 91 350SDL, he said, Oh, no, mine's a 300. When I tried to tell him about the rod-bender engine and how they had changed the nomenclature (number on the trunk) for 93 in an effort to make buyers feel better, he said, Well, I'm glad they fixed the problem. I replied, No, they just changed the number on the trunk. He has no clue. BTW, this message composed using voice-activated program, Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Wilton Strickland 91 350SDL (185kmi), 87 showroom 300D (101kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale
Tom - just because Diesel fuel costs more than gasoline in some markets, it is a fact that in an essentially identical vehicle, driven under the same conditions, you can expect 25-30% better fuel mileage in the Diesel. Therefore, unless the price of Diesel fuel exceeds 91 octane gasoline by more than 25%, you are still better off driving the Diesel from an out of pocket expense basis. And that ignores the drivability advantages, less oil imports, balance of payments issues, etc. IMO, its just the North Americans that have their heads in the sand about Diesel powered cars! Werner '90D '83SD - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 TD for sale I believe so, but the 300TE was offered for more than one year with the price of diesel, I'd rather have the 300TE. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924
[MBZ] voice recognition
Wilton - Mine was incorporated into WordPerfect 8 - How is it packaged now? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D They have come a long way. Dragon rocks! You have 3 days of pain before it learns your voice. Then it's +98% accurate. For specialized tasks like programming, create a new dictionary with a limited vocabulary and it gets even better. -Dave Walton On 1/8/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wilton - Just wondering about the voice recognition. I tried it several years ago and discovered that with some diligence and careful speech patterns I could dictate a letter about 3 times slower than I could type it [but I am a fair country typist]. Has the technology improved enough to make it reliable and worth the trouble? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:24 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D Talked to retired Army Dr. owner of 93 S300D at indie shop the other day. I was there getting belt, thermostat, idler pulley damper and leaking injector bypass lines replaced. I have until recently done all of this stuff myself, but am unable to do so now. He was there getting leaking fuel lines replaced. I tried to tell him about the need to replace the injector bypass lines occasionally, but he had no clue what I was talking about. When I mentioned that his car has the same engine as my 91 350SDL, he said, Oh, no, mine's a 300. When I tried to tell him about the rod-bender engine and how they had changed the nomenclature (number on the trunk) for 93 in an effort to make buyers feel better, he said, Well, I'm glad they fixed the problem. I replied, No, they just changed the number on the trunk. He has no clue. BTW, this message composed using voice-activated program, Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Wilton Strickland 91 350SDL (185kmi), 87 showroom 300D (101kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Voice recognition
Dave - Sorry about sending the last one to Wilton - Didn't read carefully. Same question, though ; How is it packaged these days? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D They have come a long way. Dragon rocks! You have 3 days of pain before it learns your voice. Then it's +98% accurate. For specialized tasks like programming, create a new dictionary with a limited vocabulary and it gets even better. -Dave Walton On 1/8/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wilton - Just wondering about the voice recognition. I tried it several years ago and discovered that with some diligence and careful speech patterns I could dictate a letter about 3 times slower than I could type it [but I am a fair country typist]. Has the technology improved enough to make it reliable and worth the trouble? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:24 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D Talked to retired Army Dr. owner of 93 S300D at indie shop the other day. I was there getting belt, thermostat, idler pulley damper and leaking injector bypass lines replaced. I have until recently done all of this stuff myself, but am unable to do so now. He was there getting leaking fuel lines replaced. I tried to tell him about the need to replace the injector bypass lines occasionally, but he had no clue what I was talking about. When I mentioned that his car has the same engine as my 91 350SDL, he said, Oh, no, mine's a 300. When I tried to tell him about the rod-bender engine and how they had changed the nomenclature (number on the trunk) for 93 in an effort to make buyers feel better, he said, Well, I'm glad they fixed the problem. I replied, No, they just changed the number on the trunk. He has no clue. BTW, this message composed using voice-activated program, Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Wilton Strickland 91 350SDL (185kmi), 87 showroom 300D (101kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Voice recognition
It's standalone: http://cgi.ebay.com/DRAGON-NATURALLY-SPEAKING-9-PREFERRED-W-FREE-INS_W0QQitemZ130066683847QQihZ003QQcategoryZ184QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem You absolutely must use their highest rated microphone headset: http://support.nuance.com/compatibility/default.asp Andrea NC-91 or NC-95 works well. -Dave Walton On 1/8/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave - Sorry about sending the last one to Wilton - Didn't read carefully. Same question, though ; How is it packaged these days? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D They have come a long way. Dragon rocks! You have 3 days of pain before it learns your voice. Then it's +98% accurate. For specialized tasks like programming, create a new dictionary with a limited vocabulary and it gets even better. -Dave Walton On 1/8/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wilton - Just wondering about the voice recognition. I tried it several years ago and discovered that with some diligence and careful speech patterns I could dictate a letter about 3 times slower than I could type it [but I am a fair country typist]. Has the technology improved enough to make it reliable and worth the trouble? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:24 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D Talked to retired Army Dr. owner of 93 S300D at indie shop the other day. I was there getting belt, thermostat, idler pulley damper and leaking injector bypass lines replaced. I have until recently done all of this stuff myself, but am unable to do so now. He was there getting leaking fuel lines replaced. I tried to tell him about the need to replace the injector bypass lines occasionally, but he had no clue what I was talking about. When I mentioned that his car has the same engine as my 91 350SDL, he said, Oh, no, mine's a 300. When I tried to tell him about the rod-bender engine and how they had changed the nomenclature (number on the trunk) for 93 in an effort to make buyers feel better, he said, Well, I'm glad they fixed the problem. I replied, No, they just changed the number on the trunk. He has no clue. BTW, this message composed using voice-activated program, Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Wilton Strickland 91 350SDL (185kmi), 87 showroom 300D (101kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D
One needs, not only to be intelligent, but to care. I know people with Mercedes who don't really give a hoot about cars. They bought it for the prestige and the reputation of reliability. They never look under the hood and have no interest whatsoever in doing anything mechanically to it. They don't really care what the shop tells them. They want it to run when they turn the key and that is about it. As an example, my accountant was complaining about the cost of some repairs to his vehicle. I suggested that most of what he had done was fairly simple and that he might save money if he did some of it himself. His response was, I would rather shovel sh*t. He golfs, he runs etc, but he does not work on cars. I, on the other hand, do not golf or run and actually enjoy crawling around under vehicles. I spent half of my weekend replacing the cord on an old 1/2 drill. Took it apart and cleaned it etc. Not a real fun job but provides a sense of accomplishment upon completion. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D Geez, that guys scarey! It's a shame he was a Army doc - but it's good he's retired - with thought processes like that he's probably done a lot of damage in his lifetime. Hopefully he;s not in private practice now. Unless he;s treating celebrities. ;-) I wonder what made him bring it in for the work he was having done? I know he didn;t read the owners manual. Sadly, the people who own MBs (and other expensive cars) have some strange ideas about maintanence - I had a guy tell me(when I owned a MB Parts/accessory business) that an $8 car shouldn't need an oil change! So he never changed his. Sadly, there's no use trying to explain things to these kinds of people - their preconceived notions are so ingrained that *nothing* will dislodge them. He's probably still wondering what rodbender means. It's nice to be surrounded by people who are pretty intelligent. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D Talked to retired Army Dr. owner of 93 S300D at indie shop the other day. I was there getting belt, thermostat, idler pulley damper and leaking injector bypass lines replaced. I have until recently done all of this stuff myself, but am unable to do so now. He was there getting leaking fuel lines replaced. I tried to tell him about the need to replace the injector bypass lines occasionally, but he had no clue what I was talking about. When I mentioned that his car has the same engine as my 91 350SDL, he said, Oh, no, mine's a 300. When I tried to tell him about the rod-bender engine and how they had changed the nomenclature (number on the trunk) for 93 in an effort to make buyers feel better, he said, Well, I'm glad they fixed the problem. I replied, No, they just changed the number on the trunk. He has no clue. BTW, this message composed using voice-activated program, Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Wilton Strickland 91 350SDL (185kmi), 87 showroom 300D (101kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Injection pump oil leak
Kevin J. Slater wrote: I seem to have a leak somewhere around the injection pump on my 87 300TD. The car is on my ramps in the garage so I cleaned up the area and I THINK it may be leaking from the shaft of the shutoff arm on the injection pump manual shutoff valve. Is this possible? Or likely? And more important is it repairable? Here's a link that describes the fix for an OM601 engine. While there are differences in getting to the pump, once you reach the injection pump, the procedure is the same on your OM603 engine. http://www.mercedesshop.com/Wikka/OM601InjPumpOilLeak Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Porsche Speedster
I got the $3495 price from a RT road test.but that price includes the optional 1500S engine with 84bhp for an extra $500.. That would be a pre-A, then. 1955 or earlier. Speedsters are still great to drive as long as iffy visibility with the top up and the odd rain leak is OK. Just so happens the my friend SJB and I spent five years restoring his '56 1600 Normal Speedster to Porsche Parade Concours standards. Complete disassembly followed by new floors, longitudinals, half the nose plus backdating the rear lights and adjusting the shut lines, allowing for paint thickness. Metalwork alone was 13 grand. Engine overhaul by Clark Anderson. Every single part in the car was either replaced or restored to as new condition. Every fastener refinished to the correct color. Instruments redone. New wiring harness. All new interior with the seats redone in tan leather. New tan top and sidecurtains. Nothing was too good for this car and I have never asked what the final bill was. I have seen many restored 356s and this car is at the top rank. Of the three restorations I helped with (a 1964 904GTS and a 1973 Carrera RS Touring), this one will not be sold. It's now carefully street driven and is a consistent Concours winner. The problem (if you would call it that) is that a true restoration is so expensive and time consuming that after the trophies are collected and the car has been around a while, it's time to move on to something else. We found that bringing something back from the dead to an example of perfection is more fun than after it's finished. My friend has moved on to a restoration of an entirely different sort, now. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Alpine CD install
After I bought an Alpine CD changer from some outfit in New Jersey for my '89 190E 2.6, the radio guy at my dealer offered to connect it for fifty bucks. I had already mounted it on the bottom of the first aid kit box. Took him ten minutes but a deal is a deal. He cut both connectors off and spliced the conductors color to color. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Voice recognition
Thanks - Now I just need to find a reason to justify a new toy ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Voice recognition It's standalone: http://cgi.ebay.com/DRAGON-NATURALLY-SPEAKING-9-PREFERRED-W-FREE-INS_W0QQite mZ130066683847QQihZ003QQcategoryZ184QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem You absolutely must use their highest rated microphone headset: http://support.nuance.com/compatibility/default.asp Andrea NC-91 or NC-95 works well. -Dave Walton On 1/8/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave - Sorry about sending the last one to Wilton - Didn't read carefully. Same question, though ; How is it packaged these days? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D They have come a long way. Dragon rocks! You have 3 days of pain before it learns your voice. Then it's +98% accurate. For specialized tasks like programming, create a new dictionary with a limited vocabulary and it gets even better. -Dave Walton On 1/8/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wilton - Just wondering about the voice recognition. I tried it several years ago and discovered that with some diligence and careful speech patterns I could dictate a letter about 3 times slower than I could type it [but I am a fair country typist]. Has the technology improved enough to make it reliable and worth the trouble? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:24 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] No clue owner of 93 S300D Talked to retired Army Dr. owner of 93 S300D at indie shop the other day. I was there getting belt, thermostat, idler pulley damper and leaking injector bypass lines replaced. I have until recently done all of this stuff myself, but am unable to do so now. He was there getting leaking fuel lines replaced. I tried to tell him about the need to replace the injector bypass lines occasionally, but he had no clue what I was talking about. When I mentioned that his car has the same engine as my 91 350SDL, he said, Oh, no, mine's a 300. When I tried to tell him about the rod-bender engine and how they had changed the nomenclature (number on the trunk) for 93 in an effort to make buyers feel better, he said, Well, I'm glad they fixed the problem. I replied, No, they just changed the number on the trunk. He has no clue. BTW, this message composed using voice-activated program, Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Wilton Strickland 91 350SDL (185kmi), 87 showroom 300D (101kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....
PacindustrialCat.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document There are a number of Lister motors available at this upcoming auction. That and a few 200-300amp gen sets. You can even bid live online. For those trapped at a desk. I am going to preview the site Tuesday. A two day affair to get all the toys sold. Bound to be truck loads of tools and supplies going for pennies Thursday. Whole rooms and shelf units loaded. No affiliation, just sporting big wood for this auction. On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:38 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Lister cycle engines are low compression, dirty, and make lots of smoke along with burning quite a bit of fuel for the output generated. My understanding is that they are actually quite fuel-efficient, at least as used for modest amounts of backup power. And they run forever. -- Jim Well I've seen some number tossed about first, a baseline oak ridge national labs ORNL/TM-1999/213 advanced power generation systems Modern reciprocating diesel engine fuel consumption can be as low as 190 g/kWh (45% efficiency) but usually falls in the 200- to 300-g/kWh (43 to 35% efficiency) range depending upon design and operating conditions. Some one can wander off and calculate om615/om617 and modern 2007 diesel engine consumption I'm sure. Also good to have some I sure rational numbers available to test make believe numbers with. Also found this graph http://lerch.no-ip.com/ChangFa_Gen/Day_07/Gen_Compare_Liter.gif Saw a claim for changfa 1cyl 12hp at 0.251 g/kwh, but the gif above quotes as low as 0.35 liter/kwh or at 0.85 density 298 g/kwh so I'd say this 0.251 number is optimistic. From elsewhere I see lister 419 g/kwh at 3kw, but perhaps on vegetable oil which has different density and BTUS, thus more fuel needed I believe kubota lists their 11Kw at 75% consuming 319 g/kwh or 340 g/kwh at 50% mmm say .375 liters/kwh which is more efficient than most of the mainstream diesel generators in the GIF. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] [Burnveggies] BioDiesel AntiGel additive info (was: Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point)
The BiodieselNow website has numerous long threads on biodiesel anti- gel additives and a Cold Weather Biodiesel section of the forum: http://www.biodieselnow.com/forums/10/ShowForum.aspx Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.plantdrive.com On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:19 AM, ernest breakfield wrote: more stuff to share; looking at the Power Service web site, it was clear that most of their focus was on blends up to B20, but only one of their products seemed to be intended for use with anything of a higher concentration of BioD than than 20%. a query to them for clarification came back with this info this morning; all of their products with the exception of Arctic Express Biodiesel Antigel are intended for blends up to B20, with AEBDA being acceptable for higher than B20 and compatible with B100. they state that there is no additive available in the USA that will reduce what they call the Cold Filter Plugging Point of B100 (which makes me wonder if there's something available elsewhere?), but the most interesting point to me was their forthright sharing of the fact that their test results show results with AEBDA improving pour points varying from anywhere from 50*F to nothing, and that results will vary. OK, *i* thought it was interesting,... ;-) cheers! e ___ Burnveggies mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://goblin.punk.net/mailman/listinfo/burnveggies
